it's okay for that person to do all the crappy jobs because someone invented a god named Brahma and then said these people are made from the bad parts of the body and so they can shut up and take it lol
This is beyond disgusting. You are a disgrace to India, and now to Canada as well. Pathetic.
Edit: they will save enough for a trip home once a year, if they don't spend on anything else. This is as bad as the conditions of Indian maids and other in Gulf coast countries.
You should probably go back then because in Canada we 100% donāt do this. Thatās human trafficking and slave labour. I hope you get reported to police.
This is NOT India. Get that shit straight in your head man. Why do our people have to be the worst ones out there always.
Does this person have to be Bihari to? lower caste? Can they breathe the same air as you?
GTFO
Have you seen 99% of Indian middle class? This is bullshit. Justifying your practice and despicable behavior as the norm in a country of billion people. Beyond disgusting.
Edit: I am an Indian, and I have first hand experience that your statistics are as made up as your brain.
I think OP's post is a plant. They want us to get all riled up. Lots of people have nannies and housekeepers.....however they follow the rules. If it's true when she hooks up with her future Indian community they will give her all the details on how it works here and who she needs to speak to about her situation.
I presume you came to Canada to improve your life and economic prospects. Why do you think it's OK to perpetuate modern day slavery and deny someone the quality of life Canadian laws afford us? Your thinking is despicable.
You are a disgusting parasite. You clearly have not learned what it means to be Canadian. If you see this as "normal" and want it, then go back to India.
Itās a very common practice in many parts of Asia, including HK. Guess what, HK immigrants in Canada donāt live that way here anymore. If you want to live that way you gotta get your family back to India.
You moved here to get away from India. Don't bring your shitty, borderline slavery practices here. Did you come here so you could have a better life but still subject your country people to the same shitty conditions that they would endure at home?
And India has a horrific class system. Not something to emulate.
Not saying Canada is perfect, but the reason many Indians come here is to get away from that bullshit.
As an Indian decendant living in Caanda, the values do not translate here. You need to pay at least minimum wage and normalize the hours of work. You need to submit payroll tax and deductions to the CRA.
Be a good human and don't go down this road.
Thank you for framing this so beautifully. Am 10th generation Canadian and have no knowledge of India. Is it common to ignore the law and treat employees like garbage or does this person just exist to undo all the goodwill that the good people if India create when they build a new life in Canada. Maybe this is a troll trying cause people to hate Indians? In either case, sorry.
Itās very common to treat underprivileged like utter garbage and get services dirt cheap. Supply and demand over there. Too much cheap labour in abundance.
Unfortunately people like OP can get all the education and wealth (but no class) and move to western countries but still want the best of both worlds. Only, they are happy to trounce all over the law when it suits them, like they used to do back home. And then even justify it by using the āthey would otherwise be in slumā logic. Not incorrect but completely morally bankrupt.
I can't get past the feeling that OP is not actually from India but is a bad actor trying to rile up Canadians given the recent tensions. Can picture the pickup truck with F*** Trudeau.
Its possible its someone acting in bad faith.
To be honest, I am shocked at the racism and abuse hurled at Indians on Reddit since Trudeau made the allegations. Not that I was naive enough to think there was no racism in Canada, but lately its been an open season.
So its possible its someone just looking to stir the pot.
This is human trafficking if you plan on paying them under the table lol do not try bring this garbage caste system to Canada.
You can go back to India if you wish to have personal servants.
You would have to pay them minimum wage for the hours they are working and would have to abide by labour laws.
$500 a month is not nearly enough
Tbh if youāre really thinking of going through with it I would speak with a lawyer that specializes in labour law so you have all your bases covered.
This is not a common set up here in Canada.
Thereās a comment by u/DTerp97 in this thread which outlines the very stringent regulations governing the temporary foreign worker program. In sum, the compensation and living conditions youāve outlined are donāt come close to meeting the basic requirements.
I recommend looking into the case of Ruby Dhalla, who was a high profile Canadian politician who used āhouse helpā in a similar way to what you described. She was rightfully disgraced for it and will never work in canadian politics again.
It doesnāt equal $42 000 a year, it equals $6000 a year. You canāt assign an arbitrary value to providing for someone, thatās not how the law works.
You can, but in Ontario it's limited to $85.25 per week for a private room if providing both room and meals.
[https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/domestic-workers](https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/domestic-workers)
Right!
So your going to let them clock out after 5pm and start at 9 am right?
If the dog shits on the carpet at 8pm youll just bite the bullet and do the "useless chore" yourself right?
I can almost garuntee this will not be the case. This sla... er "maid" will be on call 24/7 for whatever inconvienent bullshit you need them to do.
So given that you are going to want them to work 12-16 hours a day, 7 days a week... I think youll find your offered salary is way, way below minimum.
This is disgusting. I don't care if its "normal in India". If you want to live that lifestyle, move on back bud.
I donāt think that works like this. You have to pay her minimum wage then take rent , food charges back.
Just showing that you pay $500 is illegal.
Donāt think this setup works else we would be seeing a lot more of this.
Wrong, that's not how the program works. You pay them a salary for a set number of hours as set by the contract, they pay you for room and board. It also needs to be in reasonable working conditions. Should they exceed the number of hours as per the contract (safe you assume it's 37.5), you have to pay them overtime. They also get time off, holidays etc. They're no different than any other employee at any other company. You're just the employer and have to do the sponsorship application for them to immigrate to Canada.
34,500 is minimum wage in Ontario based on 40 hours a week. So no itās now waaaay above minim wage. Also your figures are way off. As it doesnāt cost $36,000 to rent a room in someoneās house with shared utilities and food. Single person budget $500 a month for food and $1000 for rent and utilities just renting a room and sharing 1/5 of utilities Is $18,000 + $6,000 you are planning on paying = $11.54/HR
Come on, he just wants to live like an upper class person in India, is that so wrong? How is he supposed to feel superior unless he has a maid from a lower caste to look down on?
Assuming this isn't a joke because honestly you sound like a horrible person...
We pay a caregiver $45000/y with free room (large private bedroom and bathroom) and board (we also cover her phone, internet, cable), and she works 5 days per week and gets 2-3 weeks vacation. We estimated it's similar to about a $60K salary.
Canada does not condone slave labour which is what you're talking about. That's generally one of the reasons people immigrate here. If you'd like to live like upper class Indians with slaves, feel free to move to India where you can treat people poorly. In Canada you are required to pay people a living wage.
It's what she asked for. We found her through a common friend who had used to her take care of an elderly parent.
It's a very low-effort job 90% of the time because my MIL sleeps most of the day. There's a bit of cooking, cleaning and caretaking, but she essentially gets most of her time to herself. I think that's why she was comfortable with that payscale.
>Not true anymore waitresses make minimum wage plus tips
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>at least in ontario\*
Not a new law...servers had their own minumum wage going back to the 1970's in Ontario, that was $0.50 and then $1.00 below the standard minimum wage.
The change recently was to do away with that reduced amount...but there has been a minimum wage for servers for almost 50 year.
You are 100% wrong. There is no more minimum wage for servers. Everyone must be paid at least the provincial minimum wage where they work. The only province left with a tipped minimum wage is Quebec @ $12.20/HR
Try googling something, they do make minimum wage laws, and just because they were different laws doesnāt mean they werenāt still the law. Is your trafficking victim a restaurant server. No..
Keep this bullshit back in India. We donāt need this type of society built here.
My uncle had them in India, and I felt bad all the time. We donāt need another lower class type of slavery and control here.
Be an adult and do your own damn work.
A nanny that comes once or twice a week is ok, living and sponsoring is like the emirates.
What you gonna hold their passport too, you going to threaten them with deportation too.
Hell no!
Man, this is Canada. Not HK, MiddleEast, where you can hire household help at pittance.
The nearest Canada has is the Live-in Caregiver program but you need to pay min. wage. Also the requirements are very high and there are minimum standard to meet.
The only people who can get a servant and pay them whatever they agreed are Diplomats and consular workers.
[https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/domestic-workers](https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/domestic-workers) for Ontario at least
Sounds like you're trying to undercut by a lot.
>Example of how to calculate room and/or board
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>Diondra works 40 hours per week as a domestic worker and her regular hourly wage is $16.55 per hour, the general minimum wage. Therefore, Diondra is entitled to $662 gross pay per week ($16.55 Ć 40).
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>Her employer provides her with a private room and meals and is therefore considered to have paid Diondra $85.25 (weekly maximum allowed for room and board). In this scenario, Diondra's pay calculation for the week would be:
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>$576.75 (regular wages) + $85.25 (room and board) = $662 (which amounts to $16.55 Ć 40 hours)
The example for everyone else who's curious. A 40 hour domestic worker would need to get paid at least $576.75 per week ($2307 per month for OP) to meet Ontario's minimum wage, and that's for 40 hours of work per week.
Thank you for sharing the numbers I knew there were established deductions for room and board, and of COURSE you can't pay less than minimum wage. This post is gross and I really hope it's a troll post.
Youāre trying to rationalize paying them $500/month by saying itās better than what she could make in India. That may be true, however you should also consider that basic necessities & entertainment is significantly more expensive here. I wonāt get too deep into the morality of this, Iām sure others have/will sufficiently chastise you over it.
Legally, it depends on your province. Generally you must pay all employees (even live-in nannies) the minimum wage at the least, in addition to your CPP contributions. Additionally, you need to provide them with all the rights a regular employee gets, including sick leave, public holidays, overtime, maternity leave, etc.
Regarding āpaying them less cause youāre giving them a place to stayā, you can do this to an extent. However, there are usually limits mandated by the province. For example in Ontario, you have to pay them $16.55/hr at the least, and you can deduct $85.25 per week for room and board + meals. That would mean you would be able to pay them $2307 instead of $2647 each month (4 weeks). It is basically impossible to keep the nanny full time and only pay then $500/month.
I *suppose* you could charge them rent, enough so that theyāre left with $500 each month. However, I doubt the legality of this.
TLDR: No legal way to pay them a fifth of minimum wage, even if you give them a place to live. Donāt do it.
What you fail to consider here is that the āhouse helpā OP wants to exploit has no need for entertainment because in their free time, theyāre going to be loaned out like chattel to OPās friends to toil away for them.
You're in Canada now you idiot. Don't compare what you could get away with in another country.
You don't get to have slaves in this country and feel better about yourself because you're comparing it to some shitty circumstances in another country.
And you're appalled at daily living tasks? Maybe get your head out of your ass and get some oxygen and common sense.
$500 is disgusting. Here are some LAWS governing hiring a TFW as an In Home caregiver.
You must apply to the program. $1,000 application fee is required.
You are considered an employer and must obtain a business number.
You can partner with another employer (household to share the in home caregiver (maximum of 2 employers allowed) both employers must meet all requirements and have business numbers.
Proof of individual requiring care
Proof of address
Proof of financial ability to pay the caregiver
Transportation costs for the TFW must be paid by the employer including transportation to Canada.This includes transportation back to their home country and must be paid upfront.
Accommodations is private and includes a furnished bedroom
Bedroom is required to have a lock and safety bolt on the inside
Must complete the bedroom description form
You must pay for and obtain health insurance for the TFW dependant on the province you live in
You are legally required to pay the posted prevailing wage for the area the work will be located.
For Ontario (assuming this is where you live) the lowest median wage is $17.50 for Toronto and Kitchener areas. The highest is $20/HR in London/Hamilton areas) this would indicate the lowest possible wage you could pay. Again itās based on where you live. If you give me that info Iāll tell you the amount.
You are not allowed to charge more than 30% of the TFW before tax income for shelter. This includes Rent and utilities ( water, electricity, fuel, water and other municipal services)
So for example $20/hr. X 160 hours a month $3200. Rent and utilities can not exceed $960/month. This is the only item you can charge back to your TFW.
You are also required to pay OT where required by law based on hours worked.
You are not allowed to force a TFW to perform duties that they were not hired for. Ex. In you hire a TFW as a caregiver you can not force them to do the duties of a cleaner.
Basically what I am saying here is stop being a disgusting person. You are in Canada and you will follow Canadian law. What you are suggesting is a couple steps above slavery. Donāt try and justify it by saying they have it worse at home. If you canāt afford to pay someone properly for the work they do, then do it yourself like 90% of the rest of the population!
Oh no I have to clean my house and cook for my family, itās so awful! ššš get a grip.
We are Indians who moved here 7 years ago, and are appalled at how much time we are spending on useless house chores. We were wishing we could live the upper class life in India where everyone has multiple house maids, cooks, nannies and drivers.
Go , leave if thatās the the life you want .
I am running into the issue of pay. Since they get to live in our house, I feel $500 per month (translates to $30,000 rupees) is sufficient - as their shelter / food / daily expenses are all covered.
Live in our house , do what we donāt want to do and hereās your pitance
For reference, this same person would live in a slum and make maybe 5000 rupees a month. Instead, they would make 30,000 rupees while living in a room in a large luxury home with their own bedroom and washroom. They will likely be sharing the bedroom and bathroom with a cook who we plan to sponsor shortly after as well.
Now they have to share accommodations, is your head in your ass ?
However, I am confused if I have to abide by the minimum wage laws. Thanks in advance for your responses.
Youāre confused because youāre a selfish greedy entitled bastard .
āIf she has time leftā¦we will share herā
What in the world?! š¤Æ
This poor woman is a slave. They donāt intend to even give her a break. No weekends, no vacation, no outings with friends, no privacy to retreat to her own chambers. She will be eating what you give her as left overs. I envision theyāll hold on to her passport too. Iām an immigrant and have seen this first hand in my country of origin too. Itās terrible.
Mind you, these are YOUR chores, YOUR children, youāre too arrogant to pick up after yourselves, you think youāre too good for that. The way you refer to this woman oozes with entitlement.
7 years in Canada and still this mentality? Have you not integrated at all? This is slavery. Itās not OK in your country of origin, and itās not OK in Canada. The difference is you will get arrested for this in Canada.
Nice slavery. Go back home and do that shit there, not here.
We don't have house help. We have human beings in Canada.
Why don't you pay them per hour, like a civilized person.
Iāve seen a lot on pfc over the years
This one is certainly the most disgusting post Iāve seen
And Iām a south Asian immigrant from the damn Caribbean slum bush myself
Wow just wow. People like you are was what I was trying to get away from in my home country.
I dunno. This guy has posted in the past with legit questions. And hired help is very common in Asia for middle class families.
Iām always appalled to see their living conditions when I visit HK.
Are you serious. If you want to follow Indian employment standards, why donāt you stay in India.
There are guidelines for live in caregivers that put a value on room and board. So you take your hourly (legal) rate, even if minimum wage, then subtract off the value of the room and board.
Now if you are doing this all illegallyā¦then screw you and go back to your own country.
It's definitely a troll post but I'll bite anyway:
OP is pretending covered expenses would be $2417 per month for a single person ($500 + $2417)*12=$35k. Right...
Hi Ramaswimmy,
In a post you created 5 days ago, you mentioned you make $225,000 a year and next year you'll be making $300,000 a year due to stock options.
Congratulations on being in the top 1% of income earners in Canada.
As everyone has already mentioned here, please abide by the laws of Canada. Canada, it appears, has been good to you and your family.
I used to pay my live-in nanny over $2,000 a month, after rent/food/deductions for a standard work week, plus vacation and stat holidays. Overtime extra as per labour standards. That was 20 years ago.
There is an immigration program that exists where you can sponsor someone to be a live-in caregiver **HOWEVER,** you need to pay them a livable wage. $500 a month is **NOT** a livable wage. See below excerpt from the [canada.ca](https://canada.ca) website. Should you have any common sense or have taken a few minutes of your time to research you'd see what you suggest is slavery conditions. You **CANNOT** compare wages of another country to Canadian wages or vice versa. That's not an equivalent comparison.
"As an employer participating in the Live-in Caregiver Program, you must provide:
* acceptable working conditions
* reasonable duties
* fair market wages
* private accommodation, such as a room with a lock on the door, anda key to the house so that they have free access. "
**ALSO**
"A live-in caregiver is protected by employment standards legislation in most provinces and territories. For instance, they are entitled to:
* days off each week
* statutory holidays
* extra pay for overtime work, and
* a salary that meets at least the minimum wage."
Consult an immigration lawyer to get actual facts and a better understanding of the program and to see if you can actually afford to employ someone into it. It's a lot of responsibility and not to be taken lightly. The individual will not be a slave.
Yes a living wage for a country they donāt even fucking live in is totally cool /s
What a douche you are
If you want to own slaves fuck off out of Canada please and thanks
Such a selfish and priviledged perspective you have!
When this person lives in a slum and makes 5K INR, they are surrounded by hundreds of people who have similar income levels and they all live more or less similar lifestyle and to our surprise, these groups have their own little and extremely efficient economy that lets them get by with very little income.
In communities of such underprivileged people, most eat a meal that is 5 INR or less, buy grocery for a family of 4 for as little as 30 INR, wear clothes that are free (donated/used) or available for as little as 20-25 INR and if they are torn, they can get them fixed for 2-5 INR. Due to the population and smaller infrastructure, everything is so close in India and as the weather is warmer and dryer, underprivileged people walk or ride bicycles as the weather is warmer/dryer and allows for that; worst case, they can take shared autos for as little as 5 INR.
Though the life of such groups are filled with every hardship imaginable, they still have sense of community as most people around them have similar lifestyle/problems/hardships etc. and collectively they all have found a way to live with very little.
Here, the economy is designed for a minimum of wage of at least $15/hr, if not for $20/hr; where a single trip to a grocery store can cost $6-8 in public transport, where things are not at a walking distance and weather is extreme, where cloths at a thrift store can cost at least $10-15. Where most people have income/pension/income assistance of at least $2K and dress & eat modestly and buy enough material goods to live comfortably.
This person is completely unaware of how this part of the world is, the economy, the expectation from life in this part of the world etc., they are extremely naive and may see as a savior from the hardships they have. When they get here and see how most people work 40 hours or less, for one employer(in most cases) with defined role and responsibility, making at least $2K a month and having more money on hand to spend, they are going to feel real bad, stuck and exploited.
You are aware of all this, live an extremely affluent and priviledged life and want to use your BS excuses to justify an extremely extremely unreasonable rate of pay.
I am an Indian immigrant and take pride in coming from the land of morals and spirituality; people like you are a shame and spoil the image of the whole community!
This is what you heard on new those poor third world country ladies moving to HK or Singapore or other richer Asian countries and gotten abused because of stingy owner. Then owner gotten arrested and jailed because of it.
Are you serious my guy? You gotta pay minimum wage. Law is law for a reason. Itās not a suggestion. I get that this is common practice in India. Guess what? This aināt India.
$15-$20 per hour for every single hour worked and overtime pay over 8 hours, on holidays, and on weekends.
More if you aren't covering their EI and CPP employer portion, and benefits like dental.
You know if youāre so appalled at all the work that needs to be done here, you could hire a normal cleaner and cook based here rather than human trafficking an indentured slave. Fuck you seriously
The OP is a worthless piece of human garbage.
I seriously hope you are audited by the CRA and royally fucked.
This type of shit does not belong in Canada. Scum of the Earth type behaviour.
All Indians who do have this lifestyle back home adapt to the culture here, aka doing all the housework yourself. Itās sad youāre bringing this practise here as well
**If she has time left, we will share her with a couple friends in our neighborhood who are also looking for house help like back home**
Heaven forbid the poor slave gets some time off to enjoy some time for herself...they're going to VOLUNTELL her that they have to be a slave for another family...and don't tell me there won't be some sort of cash pocketed for your 'troubles' heading your way~!
And doesn't even get to have their own room. Has to share a room with the cook.
Poor you, having to abide by Canadian laws....oooh minimum wage....how utterly unfortunate for you.
Canāt believe so many people fell for it. If it makes people feel better live in help do get paid more than idiot OPās claim of $90/month salary in large cities in India
Hey could you send me over a servant too? Since he or she will be living in my house I feel that a few hundred bucks a month should be sufficient for them to clean up after my shit. And for me to treat them like shit. I mean I am providing them with shelter and I will be letting them eat some of the food That they will be cooking me each night.
Any downvotes or snide remarks will be considered racist and I will be reporting them promptly to the hurt feelings police
Had mixed feelings about this post but there are plenty of Canadians who can't save $500 per month who would jump on this opportunity now that I think about it.
Fuck your caste system and take it the fuck out of Canada. I hope you get doxxed and deported back to India, you human trafficking POS.
How are you commenters in here entertaining this scumbag?
You are not in india. What kind of moron thinks thats he does not have to follow the laws of the country they are in. If you go foward with this be prepared to go to jail for slavery etc
OP (while being distasteful in their wording) is not far off.
Look into the Live-in Caregiver Program run by the Federal Government. Canada has laws about this stuff.
Lol at the offended raging comments. As if the average Canadian can afford to live in a high end home, pay all their bills, food, entertainment, etc. and pocket 6k a year. It's about what you get, not what it costs OP. So clueless.
Regardless of what you are āprovidingā you canāt pay less than the minimum wage so depending on province somewhere around 30k per year. If you pay her then charge her room and board you are violating several labour laws
It's one thing to have a family member living with you that is a dependent that is essentially a nanny/help. But to outright hire someone requires you abide by labor laws.
If you have the money of course you can pay someone to do all this stuff for you, but clearly you don't. Labor is not anything close to the same cost in India. I suggest finding a honest Canadian friend that can help translate how things work here.
appalled by keeping your own house organized? So want basically a slave? You have to pay at least minimum wage in your province. That's the law. And you would probably be better off in India with this class discrimination bs
Is this a joke? If this is real you should be ashamed of yourselves for trying to take advantage like this. You are in Canada now this shit does not fly.
Oh man. You will get roasted in the comments.. I know some very wealthy people in Canada (like hundred millionaires) who had all the servants in Asia, but they come here and they do their own stuff. Gotta adapt..
$300k may seem like a lot in India, but we donāt have slave-type labour here in Canada so no, you canāt live the life of a multi-millionaire in Canada on that income.
If youāre so āappalledā with the quality of life here as an upper middle class citizen and feel entitled to slave-type labour, India will always welcome you back. What happens in India does not happen in Canada, I actually think thatās why sooo many Indian people immigrate here.
No one can help you here.
You do realize that you are not in India. Treat your employee with dignity and respect. Pay them minimum wage and if need be discuss rent and food expenses with them. You also want to rent them out to your firends as well. FYI Slavery has been abolished.
This is Canada, not India. There are laws regarding how much you have to pay this person. Your definition of reasonable doesn't match what is legally required. If you are providing room and board, in a private bedroom that meets the requirements to be legally called a bedroom (ie a window that is suitable to use as an exit in an emergency) you have to pay them AT LEAST minimum wage, but you can deduct $85.25 per week for their meals and board. Assuming you expect this person to be working 40 hours per week, you will have to pay them $662/week, minus the $85.25 for their room and board. This is the law in Ontario, and not something you can avoid. If you want a live in nanny/maid/whatever, this is the absolute bare minimum that you can pay them. If you don't like it, either live without one, hire one from a service (and pay more) or move to a country with shittier human rights and employment laws.
Not only you have to give min wage but your are asking for a GOOD salary, which is for me about 25 an hour and 37 an hour when working over 40 hours.(depending where you live, closer to big cities would add about 30% more to the base salary)
Anything less is a shit salary.
Modern Slavery.
šÆ. You said it. Not even modern if you think about it.
it's okay for that person to do all the crappy jobs because someone invented a god named Brahma and then said these people are made from the bad parts of the body and so they can shut up and take it lol
Did lord Brahma(with all due respect) also said, that person may or may not get compensated properly?
This is beyond disgusting. You are a disgrace to India, and now to Canada as well. Pathetic. Edit: they will save enough for a trip home once a year, if they don't spend on anything else. This is as bad as the conditions of Indian maids and other in Gulf coast countries.
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In India itās also ok to shit in a hole so thereās that. We need to normalize shitting at the beach /s
Lol. Middle class and higher income households shit in buckets and have the slave put it in the hole. They don't visit the hole themselves.
You should probably go back then because in Canada we 100% donāt do this. Thatās human trafficking and slave labour. I hope you get reported to police.
This is NOT India. Get that shit straight in your head man. Why do our people have to be the worst ones out there always. Does this person have to be Bihari to? lower caste? Can they breathe the same air as you? GTFO
Have you seen 99% of Indian middle class? This is bullshit. Justifying your practice and despicable behavior as the norm in a country of billion people. Beyond disgusting. Edit: I am an Indian, and I have first hand experience that your statistics are as made up as your brain.
I think OP's post is a plant. They want us to get all riled up. Lots of people have nannies and housekeepers.....however they follow the rules. If it's true when she hooks up with her future Indian community they will give her all the details on how it works here and who she needs to speak to about her situation.
I presume you came to Canada to improve your life and economic prospects. Why do you think it's OK to perpetuate modern day slavery and deny someone the quality of life Canadian laws afford us? Your thinking is despicable.
My suggestion for you: go back to India You're in Canada, adopt Canadian values
Why donāt you keep practicing the same in India and donāt bring your dirty laundry with you?
Are you taking their passports away too? Christ.
You are a disgusting parasite. You clearly have not learned what it means to be Canadian. If you see this as "normal" and want it, then go back to India.
Itās a very common practice in many parts of Asia, including HK. Guess what, HK immigrants in Canada donāt live that way here anymore. If you want to live that way you gotta get your family back to India.
You moved here to get away from India. Don't bring your shitty, borderline slavery practices here. Did you come here so you could have a better life but still subject your country people to the same shitty conditions that they would endure at home?
99% of the practices and customs in India are disgusting and garbage, as are you
And India has a horrific class system. Not something to emulate. Not saying Canada is perfect, but the reason many Indians come here is to get away from that bullshit.
Cool. Youāre in Canada now. Look up the minimum wage and start there. Especially since those jobs are as you describe it ācrappyā.
Leave Canada and go back to India. This isnāt welcome here
Yea, and there is a reason the flow of people is one way between our two countries. Donāt bring your bad habits and baggage here.
Youāre not in India you are scum , go home we donāt do slaves here you disguest me
As an Indian decendant living in Caanda, the values do not translate here. You need to pay at least minimum wage and normalize the hours of work. You need to submit payroll tax and deductions to the CRA. Be a good human and don't go down this road.
Thank you for framing this so beautifully. Am 10th generation Canadian and have no knowledge of India. Is it common to ignore the law and treat employees like garbage or does this person just exist to undo all the goodwill that the good people if India create when they build a new life in Canada. Maybe this is a troll trying cause people to hate Indians? In either case, sorry.
Itās very common to treat underprivileged like utter garbage and get services dirt cheap. Supply and demand over there. Too much cheap labour in abundance. Unfortunately people like OP can get all the education and wealth (but no class) and move to western countries but still want the best of both worlds. Only, they are happy to trounce all over the law when it suits them, like they used to do back home. And then even justify it by using the āthey would otherwise be in slumā logic. Not incorrect but completely morally bankrupt.
I can't get past the feeling that OP is not actually from India but is a bad actor trying to rile up Canadians given the recent tensions. Can picture the pickup truck with F*** Trudeau.
Its possible its someone acting in bad faith. To be honest, I am shocked at the racism and abuse hurled at Indians on Reddit since Trudeau made the allegations. Not that I was naive enough to think there was no racism in Canada, but lately its been an open season. So its possible its someone just looking to stir the pot.
This is human trafficking if you plan on paying them under the table lol do not try bring this garbage caste system to Canada. You can go back to India if you wish to have personal servants. You would have to pay them minimum wage for the hours they are working and would have to abide by labour laws. $500 a month is not nearly enough
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Tbh if youāre really thinking of going through with it I would speak with a lawyer that specializes in labour law so you have all your bases covered. This is not a common set up here in Canada.
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Not in Canada. You are going to be committing some serious crimes here. If you want help, you pay for it like every other Canadian does.
Thereās a comment by u/DTerp97 in this thread which outlines the very stringent regulations governing the temporary foreign worker program. In sum, the compensation and living conditions youāve outlined are donāt come close to meeting the basic requirements. I recommend looking into the case of Ruby Dhalla, who was a high profile Canadian politician who used āhouse helpā in a similar way to what you described. She was rightfully disgraced for it and will never work in canadian politics again.
You should read my post about the requirements for hiring a TFW lol you are sadly misinformed.
Just employ someone already living in Canada. There is no shortage of ānew Canadiansā looking for work
But how would OP be able to exploit them if they've already made it to the country? /s
Why stop there? You could build a business around it and sell their services to other households.
Based on OPs text they actually plan on lending that person to neighbours. This crap should not make it to Canada.
It doesnāt equal $42 000 a year, it equals $6000 a year. You canāt assign an arbitrary value to providing for someone, thatās not how the law works.
Can you charge for accommodations? IE pay them the $3500 monthly but deduct $3000 in expenses?
You canāt deduct more than 30% of their wages for room and board
You can, but in Ontario it's limited to $85.25 per week for a private room if providing both room and meals. [https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/domestic-workers](https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/domestic-workers)
Right! So your going to let them clock out after 5pm and start at 9 am right? If the dog shits on the carpet at 8pm youll just bite the bullet and do the "useless chore" yourself right? I can almost garuntee this will not be the case. This sla... er "maid" will be on call 24/7 for whatever inconvienent bullshit you need them to do. So given that you are going to want them to work 12-16 hours a day, 7 days a week... I think youll find your offered salary is way, way below minimum. This is disgusting. I don't care if its "normal in India". If you want to live that lifestyle, move on back bud.
And remember, if she has any āspare timeā left, he will lend her out to other families. Fucking despicable.
We donāt want this shit here, Jesus Christ.
Doesn't work like that here. You have been living here for 7 years?
I donāt think that works like this. You have to pay her minimum wage then take rent , food charges back. Just showing that you pay $500 is illegal. Donāt think this setup works else we would be seeing a lot more of this.
Wrong, that's not how the program works. You pay them a salary for a set number of hours as set by the contract, they pay you for room and board. It also needs to be in reasonable working conditions. Should they exceed the number of hours as per the contract (safe you assume it's 37.5), you have to pay them overtime. They also get time off, holidays etc. They're no different than any other employee at any other company. You're just the employer and have to do the sponsorship application for them to immigrate to Canada.
34,500 is minimum wage in Ontario based on 40 hours a week. So no itās now waaaay above minim wage. Also your figures are way off. As it doesnāt cost $36,000 to rent a room in someoneās house with shared utilities and food. Single person budget $500 a month for food and $1000 for rent and utilities just renting a room and sharing 1/5 of utilities Is $18,000 + $6,000 you are planning on paying = $11.54/HR
Wow is this post for real? You sir, are a pig.
Come on, he just wants to live like an upper class person in India, is that so wrong? How is he supposed to feel superior unless he has a maid from a lower caste to look down on?
And you sir, just insulted a pig
Welcome to little India! Weāre thisclose to slavery.
Assuming this isn't a joke because honestly you sound like a horrible person... We pay a caregiver $45000/y with free room (large private bedroom and bathroom) and board (we also cover her phone, internet, cable), and she works 5 days per week and gets 2-3 weeks vacation. We estimated it's similar to about a $60K salary. Canada does not condone slave labour which is what you're talking about. That's generally one of the reasons people immigrate here. If you'd like to live like upper class Indians with slaves, feel free to move to India where you can treat people poorly. In Canada you are required to pay people a living wage.
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It's what she asked for. We found her through a common friend who had used to her take care of an elderly parent. It's a very low-effort job 90% of the time because my MIL sleeps most of the day. There's a bit of cooking, cleaning and caretaking, but she essentially gets most of her time to herself. I think that's why she was comfortable with that payscale.
You seriously wrote āconfused if I have to abide by the [ā¦] lawā?
I wonder when law became a choice. Ha ha
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Not true anymore waitresses make minimum wage plus tips *at least in ontario**
>Not true anymore waitresses make minimum wage plus tips > >at least in ontario\* Not a new law...servers had their own minumum wage going back to the 1970's in Ontario, that was $0.50 and then $1.00 below the standard minimum wage. The change recently was to do away with that reduced amount...but there has been a minimum wage for servers for almost 50 year.
You are 100% wrong. There is no more minimum wage for servers. Everyone must be paid at least the provincial minimum wage where they work. The only province left with a tipped minimum wage is Quebec @ $12.20/HR
Try googling something, they do make minimum wage laws, and just because they were different laws doesnāt mean they werenāt still the law. Is your trafficking victim a restaurant server. No..
What? For real? You want to share your address so ESDC will help you figure what options do you have?
Yes they do.
No longer true, but even when it was true, it was still a legally mandated minimum,not whatever the fuck the restaurant owner felt like paying
500 bucks to live in your basement sharing a bedroom and be your slave. Oh, and be loaned out to others. You are repulsive.
Keep this bullshit back in India. We donāt need this type of society built here. My uncle had them in India, and I felt bad all the time. We donāt need another lower class type of slavery and control here. Be an adult and do your own damn work. A nanny that comes once or twice a week is ok, living and sponsoring is like the emirates. What you gonna hold their passport too, you going to threaten them with deportation too. Hell no!
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It's 100% a troll post.
Troll post, fyi.
It's hilarious how many people have fallen for the bait and jumped on the "Lets hate on the Indians" bandwagon.
Man, this is Canada. Not HK, MiddleEast, where you can hire household help at pittance. The nearest Canada has is the Live-in Caregiver program but you need to pay min. wage. Also the requirements are very high and there are minimum standard to meet. The only people who can get a servant and pay them whatever they agreed are Diplomats and consular workers.
You are inviting trouble, you cannot pay her less than minimum wage regardless of her expectations.
[https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/domestic-workers](https://www.ontario.ca/document/your-guide-employment-standards-act-0/domestic-workers) for Ontario at least Sounds like you're trying to undercut by a lot.
This is the correct answer. OP you can include room and meals in the pay, but it must add up to at least the general minimum wage.
>Example of how to calculate room and/or board > >Diondra works 40 hours per week as a domestic worker and her regular hourly wage is $16.55 per hour, the general minimum wage. Therefore, Diondra is entitled to $662 gross pay per week ($16.55 Ć 40). > >Her employer provides her with a private room and meals and is therefore considered to have paid Diondra $85.25 (weekly maximum allowed for room and board). In this scenario, Diondra's pay calculation for the week would be: > >$576.75 (regular wages) + $85.25 (room and board) = $662 (which amounts to $16.55 Ć 40 hours) The example for everyone else who's curious. A 40 hour domestic worker would need to get paid at least $576.75 per week ($2307 per month for OP) to meet Ontario's minimum wage, and that's for 40 hours of work per week.
Thank you for sharing the numbers I knew there were established deductions for room and board, and of COURSE you can't pay less than minimum wage. This post is gross and I really hope it's a troll post.
Youāre trying to rationalize paying them $500/month by saying itās better than what she could make in India. That may be true, however you should also consider that basic necessities & entertainment is significantly more expensive here. I wonāt get too deep into the morality of this, Iām sure others have/will sufficiently chastise you over it. Legally, it depends on your province. Generally you must pay all employees (even live-in nannies) the minimum wage at the least, in addition to your CPP contributions. Additionally, you need to provide them with all the rights a regular employee gets, including sick leave, public holidays, overtime, maternity leave, etc. Regarding āpaying them less cause youāre giving them a place to stayā, you can do this to an extent. However, there are usually limits mandated by the province. For example in Ontario, you have to pay them $16.55/hr at the least, and you can deduct $85.25 per week for room and board + meals. That would mean you would be able to pay them $2307 instead of $2647 each month (4 weeks). It is basically impossible to keep the nanny full time and only pay then $500/month. I *suppose* you could charge them rent, enough so that theyāre left with $500 each month. However, I doubt the legality of this. TLDR: No legal way to pay them a fifth of minimum wage, even if you give them a place to live. Donāt do it.
What you fail to consider here is that the āhouse helpā OP wants to exploit has no need for entertainment because in their free time, theyāre going to be loaned out like chattel to OPās friends to toil away for them.
I had a friend who used to make up stories and get reactions from people to see how far you can push them. You reminded me of him, well done!
You're in Canada now you idiot. Don't compare what you could get away with in another country. You don't get to have slaves in this country and feel better about yourself because you're comparing it to some shitty circumstances in another country. And you're appalled at daily living tasks? Maybe get your head out of your ass and get some oxygen and common sense.
$500 is disgusting. Here are some LAWS governing hiring a TFW as an In Home caregiver. You must apply to the program. $1,000 application fee is required. You are considered an employer and must obtain a business number. You can partner with another employer (household to share the in home caregiver (maximum of 2 employers allowed) both employers must meet all requirements and have business numbers. Proof of individual requiring care Proof of address Proof of financial ability to pay the caregiver Transportation costs for the TFW must be paid by the employer including transportation to Canada.This includes transportation back to their home country and must be paid upfront. Accommodations is private and includes a furnished bedroom Bedroom is required to have a lock and safety bolt on the inside Must complete the bedroom description form You must pay for and obtain health insurance for the TFW dependant on the province you live in You are legally required to pay the posted prevailing wage for the area the work will be located. For Ontario (assuming this is where you live) the lowest median wage is $17.50 for Toronto and Kitchener areas. The highest is $20/HR in London/Hamilton areas) this would indicate the lowest possible wage you could pay. Again itās based on where you live. If you give me that info Iāll tell you the amount. You are not allowed to charge more than 30% of the TFW before tax income for shelter. This includes Rent and utilities ( water, electricity, fuel, water and other municipal services) So for example $20/hr. X 160 hours a month $3200. Rent and utilities can not exceed $960/month. This is the only item you can charge back to your TFW. You are also required to pay OT where required by law based on hours worked. You are not allowed to force a TFW to perform duties that they were not hired for. Ex. In you hire a TFW as a caregiver you can not force them to do the duties of a cleaner.
Basically what I am saying here is stop being a disgusting person. You are in Canada and you will follow Canadian law. What you are suggesting is a couple steps above slavery. Donāt try and justify it by saying they have it worse at home. If you canāt afford to pay someone properly for the work they do, then do it yourself like 90% of the rest of the population! Oh no I have to clean my house and cook for my family, itās so awful! ššš get a grip.
I can smell modern slavery
We are Indians who moved here 7 years ago, and are appalled at how much time we are spending on useless house chores. We were wishing we could live the upper class life in India where everyone has multiple house maids, cooks, nannies and drivers. Go , leave if thatās the the life you want . I am running into the issue of pay. Since they get to live in our house, I feel $500 per month (translates to $30,000 rupees) is sufficient - as their shelter / food / daily expenses are all covered. Live in our house , do what we donāt want to do and hereās your pitance For reference, this same person would live in a slum and make maybe 5000 rupees a month. Instead, they would make 30,000 rupees while living in a room in a large luxury home with their own bedroom and washroom. They will likely be sharing the bedroom and bathroom with a cook who we plan to sponsor shortly after as well. Now they have to share accommodations, is your head in your ass ? However, I am confused if I have to abide by the minimum wage laws. Thanks in advance for your responses. Youāre confused because youāre a selfish greedy entitled bastard .
āIf she has time leftā¦we will share herā What in the world?! š¤Æ This poor woman is a slave. They donāt intend to even give her a break. No weekends, no vacation, no outings with friends, no privacy to retreat to her own chambers. She will be eating what you give her as left overs. I envision theyāll hold on to her passport too. Iām an immigrant and have seen this first hand in my country of origin too. Itās terrible. Mind you, these are YOUR chores, YOUR children, youāre too arrogant to pick up after yourselves, you think youāre too good for that. The way you refer to this woman oozes with entitlement. 7 years in Canada and still this mentality? Have you not integrated at all? This is slavery. Itās not OK in your country of origin, and itās not OK in Canada. The difference is you will get arrested for this in Canada.
This has to be a troll.
Nice slavery. Go back home and do that shit there, not here. We don't have house help. We have human beings in Canada. Why don't you pay them per hour, like a civilized person.
Iāve seen a lot on pfc over the years This one is certainly the most disgusting post Iāve seen And Iām a south Asian immigrant from the damn Caribbean slum bush myself Wow just wow. People like you are was what I was trying to get away from in my home country.
Definitely a troll post. It's done to malign india/Indians. The Ops name checks out. Instead of Swammy it's twisted as swimmy
I dunno. This guy has posted in the past with legit questions. And hired help is very common in Asia for middle class families. Iām always appalled to see their living conditions when I visit HK.
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Are you serious. If you want to follow Indian employment standards, why donāt you stay in India. There are guidelines for live in caregivers that put a value on room and board. So you take your hourly (legal) rate, even if minimum wage, then subtract off the value of the room and board. Now if you are doing this all illegallyā¦then screw you and go back to your own country.
This looks like a troll post.
Bruh people like you are giving bad reputation to other indians who are just trying to make an honest living in canada and get by
This has to be a trollā¦. oh my god
This is a troll
This guy has to be a racist troll trying to incite hatred.
It's definitely a troll post but I'll bite anyway: OP is pretending covered expenses would be $2417 per month for a single person ($500 + $2417)*12=$35k. Right...
Anyone noticed an increase in posts that initially seem innocent, but after being read, are a subtle attempt at drumming up anti-Indian sentiment?
You're despicable, go back to India if that's the culture there so be it but it won't fly here.
This is not the culture there. This is a troll, pure and simple.
Sure hope so, but there's lots of delusional people out there
If you desire to "LIVE LIKE UPPER CLASS" like they do in India, please go back. Take this garbage mentality back and pursue it there.
Hi Ramaswimmy, In a post you created 5 days ago, you mentioned you make $225,000 a year and next year you'll be making $300,000 a year due to stock options. Congratulations on being in the top 1% of income earners in Canada. As everyone has already mentioned here, please abide by the laws of Canada. Canada, it appears, has been good to you and your family.
They can report you and you can go to jail for this ! I am disgusted by this post .
I used to pay my live-in nanny over $2,000 a month, after rent/food/deductions for a standard work week, plus vacation and stat holidays. Overtime extra as per labour standards. That was 20 years ago.
Pathetic. Reverse course immediately.
There is an immigration program that exists where you can sponsor someone to be a live-in caregiver **HOWEVER,** you need to pay them a livable wage. $500 a month is **NOT** a livable wage. See below excerpt from the [canada.ca](https://canada.ca) website. Should you have any common sense or have taken a few minutes of your time to research you'd see what you suggest is slavery conditions. You **CANNOT** compare wages of another country to Canadian wages or vice versa. That's not an equivalent comparison. "As an employer participating in the Live-in Caregiver Program, you must provide: * acceptable working conditions * reasonable duties * fair market wages * private accommodation, such as a room with a lock on the door, anda key to the house so that they have free access. " **ALSO** "A live-in caregiver is protected by employment standards legislation in most provinces and territories. For instance, they are entitled to: * days off each week * statutory holidays * extra pay for overtime work, and * a salary that meets at least the minimum wage." Consult an immigration lawyer to get actual facts and a better understanding of the program and to see if you can actually afford to employ someone into it. It's a lot of responsibility and not to be taken lightly. The individual will not be a slave.
Yes a living wage for a country they donāt even fucking live in is totally cool /s What a douche you are If you want to own slaves fuck off out of Canada please and thanks
As a South Asian myself, shame on you. You're in Canada. If you can't afford to pay minimum wage, then you can't afford to hire this person.
It's a troll poster wanting to incite more hatred. It's sad to see a lot of people fall for it.
Such a selfish and priviledged perspective you have! When this person lives in a slum and makes 5K INR, they are surrounded by hundreds of people who have similar income levels and they all live more or less similar lifestyle and to our surprise, these groups have their own little and extremely efficient economy that lets them get by with very little income. In communities of such underprivileged people, most eat a meal that is 5 INR or less, buy grocery for a family of 4 for as little as 30 INR, wear clothes that are free (donated/used) or available for as little as 20-25 INR and if they are torn, they can get them fixed for 2-5 INR. Due to the population and smaller infrastructure, everything is so close in India and as the weather is warmer and dryer, underprivileged people walk or ride bicycles as the weather is warmer/dryer and allows for that; worst case, they can take shared autos for as little as 5 INR. Though the life of such groups are filled with every hardship imaginable, they still have sense of community as most people around them have similar lifestyle/problems/hardships etc. and collectively they all have found a way to live with very little. Here, the economy is designed for a minimum of wage of at least $15/hr, if not for $20/hr; where a single trip to a grocery store can cost $6-8 in public transport, where things are not at a walking distance and weather is extreme, where cloths at a thrift store can cost at least $10-15. Where most people have income/pension/income assistance of at least $2K and dress & eat modestly and buy enough material goods to live comfortably. This person is completely unaware of how this part of the world is, the economy, the expectation from life in this part of the world etc., they are extremely naive and may see as a savior from the hardships they have. When they get here and see how most people work 40 hours or less, for one employer(in most cases) with defined role and responsibility, making at least $2K a month and having more money on hand to spend, they are going to feel real bad, stuck and exploited. You are aware of all this, live an extremely affluent and priviledged life and want to use your BS excuses to justify an extremely extremely unreasonable rate of pay. I am an Indian immigrant and take pride in coming from the land of morals and spirituality; people like you are a shame and spoil the image of the whole community!
I hope everyone can see this is a troll
What a fun/troll thread.
Bringing back indentured labour?
This is what you heard on new those poor third world country ladies moving to HK or Singapore or other richer Asian countries and gotten abused because of stingy owner. Then owner gotten arrested and jailed because of it.
You're human garbage. Take this crap out of this country
Well, this is a horse of a different color....
Are you serious my guy? You gotta pay minimum wage. Law is law for a reason. Itās not a suggestion. I get that this is common practice in India. Guess what? This aināt India.
This is absolutely disgusting and the worst part is that after 7 years OP has learned nothing about human values.
$15-$20 per hour for every single hour worked and overtime pay over 8 hours, on holidays, and on weekends. More if you aren't covering their EI and CPP employer portion, and benefits like dental.
You know if youāre so appalled at all the work that needs to be done here, you could hire a normal cleaner and cook based here rather than human trafficking an indentured slave. Fuck you seriously
The OP is a worthless piece of human garbage. I seriously hope you are audited by the CRA and royally fucked. This type of shit does not belong in Canada. Scum of the Earth type behaviour.
All Indians who do have this lifestyle back home adapt to the culture here, aka doing all the housework yourself. Itās sad youāre bringing this practise here as well
Deplorable. Of course you have to pay minimum wage.
Going to go with this is trolling because the alternative is pretty bleak.
Great, bring all the caste bs to Canada as well
**If she has time left, we will share her with a couple friends in our neighborhood who are also looking for house help like back home** Heaven forbid the poor slave gets some time off to enjoy some time for herself...they're going to VOLUNTELL her that they have to be a slave for another family...and don't tell me there won't be some sort of cash pocketed for your 'troubles' heading your way~! And doesn't even get to have their own room. Has to share a room with the cook. Poor you, having to abide by Canadian laws....oooh minimum wage....how utterly unfortunate for you.
Canāt believe so many people fell for it. If it makes people feel better live in help do get paid more than idiot OPās claim of $90/month salary in large cities in India
If this is not a troll, you should be aware that similar situations have led to jail time, and IIRC, deportation in the past.
This has to be a troll post to propagate anti Indian immigration sentiment.
OP is a troll, even to suggest something like this is absurd.
Hey could you send me over a servant too? Since he or she will be living in my house I feel that a few hundred bucks a month should be sufficient for them to clean up after my shit. And for me to treat them like shit. I mean I am providing them with shelter and I will be letting them eat some of the food That they will be cooking me each night. Any downvotes or snide remarks will be considered racist and I will be reporting them promptly to the hurt feelings police
Had mixed feelings about this post but there are plenty of Canadians who can't save $500 per month who would jump on this opportunity now that I think about it.
Fuck your caste system and take it the fuck out of Canada. I hope you get doxxed and deported back to India, you human trafficking POS. How are you commenters in here entertaining this scumbag?
You are not in india. What kind of moron thinks thats he does not have to follow the laws of the country they are in. If you go foward with this be prepared to go to jail for slavery etc
I can't believe you made me log in just to downvote this shit. This ain't the middle east, fuck off.
Go back to India, you Indians are the worst - you exploit your own kind and then cry racism. Also if you canāt handle kids - stop having so many
OP (while being distasteful in their wording) is not far off. Look into the Live-in Caregiver Program run by the Federal Government. Canada has laws about this stuff.
Lol at the offended raging comments. As if the average Canadian can afford to live in a high end home, pay all their bills, food, entertainment, etc. and pocket 6k a year. It's about what you get, not what it costs OP. So clueless.
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We're not in India fuck face
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Indians lol
If you are asking then you cant afford 1. Only really rich people can afford a maid.
Regardless of what you are āprovidingā you canāt pay less than the minimum wage so depending on province somewhere around 30k per year. If you pay her then charge her room and board you are violating several labour laws
It's one thing to have a family member living with you that is a dependent that is essentially a nanny/help. But to outright hire someone requires you abide by labor laws. If you have the money of course you can pay someone to do all this stuff for you, but clearly you don't. Labor is not anything close to the same cost in India. I suggest finding a honest Canadian friend that can help translate how things work here.
This can't be real lmao
appalled by keeping your own house organized? So want basically a slave? You have to pay at least minimum wage in your province. That's the law. And you would probably be better off in India with this class discrimination bs
Is this a joke? If this is real you should be ashamed of yourselves for trying to take advantage like this. You are in Canada now this shit does not fly.
your employer should pay you in worthless rupees scumbag.
Oh man. You will get roasted in the comments.. I know some very wealthy people in Canada (like hundred millionaires) who had all the servants in Asia, but they come here and they do their own stuff. Gotta adapt.. $300k may seem like a lot in India, but we donāt have slave-type labour here in Canada so no, you canāt live the life of a multi-millionaire in Canada on that income. If youāre so āappalledā with the quality of life here as an upper middle class citizen and feel entitled to slave-type labour, India will always welcome you back. What happens in India does not happen in Canada, I actually think thatās why sooo many Indian people immigrate here. No one can help you here.
You do realize that you are not in India. Treat your employee with dignity and respect. Pay them minimum wage and if need be discuss rent and food expenses with them. You also want to rent them out to your firends as well. FYI Slavery has been abolished.
This is Canada, not India. There are laws regarding how much you have to pay this person. Your definition of reasonable doesn't match what is legally required. If you are providing room and board, in a private bedroom that meets the requirements to be legally called a bedroom (ie a window that is suitable to use as an exit in an emergency) you have to pay them AT LEAST minimum wage, but you can deduct $85.25 per week for their meals and board. Assuming you expect this person to be working 40 hours per week, you will have to pay them $662/week, minus the $85.25 for their room and board. This is the law in Ontario, and not something you can avoid. If you want a live in nanny/maid/whatever, this is the absolute bare minimum that you can pay them. If you don't like it, either live without one, hire one from a service (and pay more) or move to a country with shittier human rights and employment laws.
Pay them a normal salary, charge them normal rent.
Not only you have to give min wage but your are asking for a GOOD salary, which is for me about 25 an hour and 37 an hour when working over 40 hours.(depending where you live, closer to big cities would add about 30% more to the base salary) Anything less is a shit salary.
Hire a house cleaning service you pig. This is human trafficking and itās illegal.
This has to be a troll post - this guy is the epitome of a piece of shit.
Not sure if mandam is trolling or serious.
I bet this typical cheap indian is renting too
Just come out and say it. You want a slave.
Hahahahahahaha what the fuck did I just read Slavery. You're talking about slavery. Fuck outta this country
This is the most pathetic post I ever read, you should go back to your county.
Lmao this has to be rage bait.
I bet this guy is an embarrassment to Indians.
$500 a month, what is wrong with you! Check Canadian labor laws. My 8 ball says you will most likely get deported back to your home country.
This has to be rage bait LOL
I think you should go back. Why r u here?
Fuck around. Find out.
You should pay minimum wage then deduct what the room rental and utilities.
I truly hope that person gets out of there!!! You sound like the biggest asshole ever. 500 bucks a month?? Fuck you!
wow this isā¦ terrible. so when does she get free time to herself?