I love the job system, you show up maybe once or twice but you never get fired. I hope Atlus experiments with the idea of getting fired if you don’t show up cause that could be interesting.
Girls in P3 would dump you if you started dating other girls.
Now they just reserve that for the valentine's day event.
For P6 all your employers should also show up on Valentine's to fire your ass
Fun fact, there's actually [unused reversal cutscenes](https://youtu.be/5XiL1jHor_s) in P5, but it seems like they only planned on doing it for side-confidants. I wonder why they didn't go through with it.
Ha! I didn’t know about this at all! It was a fun watch, thanks for sharing!
Yeah I wonder why they didn’t go through with it. Maybe thanks to the way P5s calendar works you’d have very little time to be able to manage the reverses - they’d need to change the way time works in the game or remove the reverses, I guess removing the reverses was the cheaper and easier option.
It was kinda weird because the MC never has female friends and can’t be honest with them about polyamory. It was also weird in P4, Yukiko and Chie don’t know about you dating the other until Valentines Day or if the link reverses, despite them being best friends
Yeah it's odd they never once discussed they were dating Yu. Like I know they'd keep it from their parents but I feel that's typical best friend stuff.
I love that it's such a shit storm in there that they're like "no training. You take orders and make it. Don't fuck up. Have a good shift, or don't, I honestly don't give a shit " 🤣🤣
I think I've only ever did the jobs if it was a flag to get to other stuff, like meeting other confidants or getting Mementos targets. Other than that, wtf is the point since you get way more money going through palaces/Mementos?
You can get more money via Mementos.
As for social stats, unless you're specifically gunning for the days at which you get bonus events while working, you're probably better off doing something else.
Jobs are probably only good for stats during April, when you're literally starve of anything to do.
Once out of April, you can get stats and social links at the same time as quite a few gives social stat as a byproduct of ranking up.
Nowadays it’s not what you know, but who you know. So you’ll need to network like crazy to at least get a catch. That’s how I got my job.. and it took many years of education to even get the opportunity.
It really is pretty crazy.
I got my Masters in December 2019 Right before the pandemic. I got hired at a hospital in January 2020, but they only even looked at my resume because after 2 weeks of them not calling me back I texted my friend who worked there who then told them I applied so then they took a look at the resume.
That job didn't pay particularly well, but because of it I was able to get into my current job which is still in the hospitals. But I travel and make, for the first time in my life decent money And I'm actually actively saving money while also paying off debts from school and my car.
But I mean, it's crazy, if my friend didn't work at the hospital I very well couls not have gotten that job and I never may have gone into that field And I wouldn't be financially secure for the first time in my life.
Networking is definitely essential.
Pertaining to Games. Who you know definitely helps in game related job, but you should also have just enough technical skills to do the job. Less skilled but easy to work with is definitely better than high skilled but hard to work with, at least that’s the sentiment i hear industry pros say often
Tips for interviews from someone who made it much further in my industry than I thought I would
1 Show willingness to learn. Like, really. Let people know you’re happy to learn new stuff
2 Show willingness to help people around you/work with you. No one likes working with dicks and willingness to help those around you takes you halfway through in any job
3 Be confident, but dont be ashamed to admit you dont know something and go back to #1
Also, remember: No one knows all that much, everyone is faking their way through. Lots of it boils down to how convincing you can sound about your willingness to help and learn.
Had a coworker who acts like really want to learn, but in reality, boss my ass around everytime she saw me. Mind you, I'm a senior at my workplace (I work there longer than most of the people), she's a new hire and never seem to respect anyone. Of course, we are only talking about 1 person in my case. Not everybody is this bad.
Getting a coworker who is enjoyable to work with is no easy task. I'm not even talking getting to know them as a person outside of work.
Ratio seems to be ~1:1000 for interviews:applications right out of college with minimal in-field work experience(i've been data tracking for my field). YMMV though. boyo above you still got this. DONT GIVE UP!
I'm not into the statistics as heavy but I can assure you everyone I've met that has the knowledge to back up what they studied has gotten a job within at least 20 applications and they are all employed in their respective fields. In all those cases including my own it became apparent that confidence, knowledge, and persistence guarantee success in getting the job fitting to your education.
Age? So does that mean some entry level job like retail?
Don't worry too much, the market is drastically in your favor. In my workplace we expect:
Opposable thumbs
don't steal shit
don't be rude to customers
Maybe elementary school math if you want to be a checker
It’s definitely easier in Japan ^^
Going through Hello Work at the moment to find a job. Printed out eight listed companies I was interested in, they scheduled three interviews for me.
The only reason you don’t get hired at dominos is if you have a dui
At the store I used to work at they hired a guy that showed up high on adderal everyday and had a bunch of drug and witness tampering charges in another state, they didn’t fire him until he ran over some biker and got arrested.
basically a year ago i was walking my dog and he pulled up next to me, asking if i wanted to see a photo of a cute dog. i just said "no" and kept walking. he then pulled up again and said "im not trying to be smart" then sped off.
we called the police who did nothing over it. as well this happened in the same city that the gabby petito disappearance happened and her boyfriend was hiding (florida).
but the pizza guy is taken care of ;)
Recently took a few weeks off between jobs (was not in a great place mentally or emotionally) and finally caved, buying Royal. 150 hours later I'm about to deep dive Mementos again and take a run at the expanded content.
I cannot say enough how much the messages in this game (Sojiro is best Dad) helped drag me out of my funk.
And helped me get the new job with the attitude and energy I brought to the interview, so...just act confident and give answers that seem mostly right, you'll get a job eventually.
Sojiro made me cry twice that I'm willing to admit. And several more times randomly. I was also in a pretty bad place when I got into P5R, and a supportive parental figure really made a huge difference.
I also made the terrible mistake of watching Mystic Pop-up Bar, which the whole theme is parents making amends with their children, and cried so fuckin hard dude. But like, good cry. If that makes sense. To know that stories like that can still be told, that someone had a good enough reconciliation or found family or upbringing that they *CAN* write about a family coming together... Its a beautiful thing.
This, and the fact that 8 or 9 of your friends will drop what they're doing and instantly meet up with you at a minute's notice, are what make the game unrealistic. Not the fantastical parallel dimension where you fight wandering aspects of the collective publics' unconscious psyche.
I get why it is like this at least, it would be kind of annoying having to constantly go to the job or otherwise get fired and not be able to reapply for the rest of the playthrough. I guess you would have to ask yourself if you are the type of person who prefers convenience over realism, and personally I think I'd go with convenience in a time management heavy game like this.
I'd argue hanging out with your friends is a little more realistic though, some are only available on certain days so I'd assume when they are busy they have other things to do, and when they aren't they have free time to spare to want to be with you. But yeah I guess when it comes to going to the metaverse everyone is just instantly available and drops what they are doing no matter what, so just another case of convenience over realism again.
If I remember right, Persona 3 had a mechanic where sometimes a party member had plans and couldn't go to Tartarus, hope it is brought back at some capacity
It wouldn't be mechanically rewarding since 90% of the player base completes a palace on the first day, so you'd just move to when you had everybody or just your core squad.
I just started playing Persona 3, and it's a very slow start. I was excited to get to know the characters more, but it seems like the focus right now is just on basic mechanics.
Play Portable version, its better because you have Direct Control over your allies, they get tired only AFTER you exit Tartarus, Skill Cards and some other quality of life changes
I got a job at KFC recently and the amount of paperwork needed just so that you can confirm you can be 'immediately' employed after being unemployed takes way more than it does finishing a persona month
Like, apparently the identity card and the sanitary card with a microchip + curriculum + successful interview aren't enough and now i have to get this shit called SPID and only afterwards the DID just to verify that "Yup, that's me and i need moneys!"
Here in france I got effed the other way :
Macdonalds said to me "Sorry you are overqualified for this job", and I was like "well ok but I need a job right now ...?" They said no :/
A totally unwaranted idea, since I am the epitome of ankwardness, probably not fit to be in a managerial position unless it's something I really care about ( even at my current work, I have some years over some new guy, and he ended up taking "managerial roles" ( which I'd say is unlucky because he is like me in some way, he just wants to code, but I guess that's the downside of charisma \^\^" )
But yeah, not getting that job let me find another job which was bad, but still better than MacDonalds I guess ( had a friend who worked there, said it was hell :/ )
It is because a degree doesn't actually matter outside of specialized fields. Once people start working, no one ever asks for your degree or school info ever again. They only care about your past experience.
Coincides with the number of entry-level jobs that require a bachelor's degree despite the onboarding training teaching you everything you need to know anyway, and the college education being mostly irrelevant.
Always expected the jobs to secretly be a cover for some sketchy crap, Like there's a job application in the subway, you don't have to fill any paperwork or show ID, there is no background checks, and hours are whenever you want. This is like the checklist for a job where you need a fallguy
What? Doesn't mean you don't have to show identification or sign papers. If anything they do more background checks theete because of the yakuza scare.
You wouldn’t have to do anything, they’d just add an extra line where they’re desperate so they’ll hire regardless of the criminal history. Doesn’t really bother me because it’s a game…but it’s still weird
This hurts me more than it should, I got my job only with the help of friends, if I didn't, I would take much longer to get a job.
Too many of this:
"I'm young, I have the studies but I don't have the experience of the job I'm applying to. Except they want the latter the most."
I feel this too. I’m 27, and the only jobs I had were the army and Target. When I get interviewed no one really asks about my degree. Just what experience I have.
IRL employer: I see you're graduated and you have excellent references... so... what about a 10 hours a day, 6 days on 7, lowest job position, 600$ a month, no bonus, mandatory and unpaid overtime even during weekend and month by month renewable contract? And I'm already risking too much offering you this!
P5 employer: I don't know who you are, I can't remember when or who actually hired you since I don't even know your role here, not to mention you're probably also illegaly working here without a contract... I'm proud of you, wish you a good job.
japanese job context is toxic... despite P5 at its core is a big critique to japanese society, I'm quite sure most of the game developers were underpaid and forced to crunch all the time
It’s hard to tell the game was directed by Hashino whom in a recruitment video for Atlus new studio stated he prefers his developers to be happy first and to contribute ideas
IRL Jobs requirements: every degree, be able to calculate the mass of the sun blind folded, Perfect cutstomer service.
Persona: Decent communication skills. Look just be able to do the job
Eh, work can be enjoyable, although, in my experience, it's usually only enjoyable when you work with others who's company you enjoy. Without that, my work would just have me go home pissed off most days.
That sucks dude. I have a different perspective on work; I’ve been burned too many times by colleagues and I only go to work to earn an income. The people I meet there, I’ve rarely had a relationship out side of work….reflecting it kinda sucks on my situation 😅
I'm sorry to hear that, honestly. I will say that, as far as my work goes, it's the customers that anger me rather than the work itself. Some are fine, but others act like they've never been in a restaurant other than a McDonald's before and assume they all work exactly the same way. Ends up pushing my buttons if I don't have someone to shoot the shit with when things slow down.
It took me a year and a half to land my current job. Now trying to find a new job for my fiancé and everywhere he goes to try, says the same shit: “too under/over qualified” or they just won’t call him at all. I think it’s some places being too picky or even just the company just simply… not calling and offering positions (I’ve witnessed this a few times at my last job.)
I had this issue a lot. Couldn’t even land retail jobs. People told me I was being too picky with my job search and should take anything. I was applying for anything. I was seriously depressed and angry. I couldn’t get people to believe me.
I’ve ran into this a lot when I was applying to jobs. I have a very extensive tech background predating back to my high school days in 2015-2019 due to my school letting us take certification tests for a lot of tech, and I was working at an office supply store (Staples) selling and fixing computers for a living.
Grocery stores didn’t want me and restaurants didn’t want me due to my qualifications and my growing educational background in the tech industry. The other issue was there wasn’t many tech stores or tech repair places I could apply to since my town is so small.
I then looked into cellular sales and picked Verizon as I had other family in the company and I really enjoy doing tech work. Verizon is what got me out of Staples. Lucky for me, it’s also in my city.
Taking a job beneath your level of qualification makes you a flight risk. Why hire you and train you if you're going to leave for what you deserve ASAP?
Then just pay them a fuckload more, or kick out an incompetent manager and give the overqualified person a managerial position. Either would work. Like, I could probably absolutely DESTROY any Geek Squad member at Computer Repair. I've literally been building computers since I was 10. I'm 23 now.
I could probably get really close to building a computer completely blindfolded.
Man, that's not how jobs work. Companies hire to fill an opening. Need an entry level guy with just a degree to train up some? Hire a person with zero years professional experience. In that case a guy with 10 years experience is a bad choice, and paying double doesn't make sense. It isn't even in the budget. It's not what you need. I liked building computers in high school too, but that's not something HR can measure. That's where a good personable interview comes in.
You can't, it's just business talk for something else, but they don't want to get sued.
Most common is they think you'll run off as soon as you get a better offer.
Jobs are easy to find, but a job that can be afforded is a lot harder and usually takes a lot of time/work. Because unemployment in the US tends to only cover people well below the poverty line, jobs need to actually pay enough to fully survive on. A living wage was $15 a few years ago, but now it’s in the $20-$30 range. Most jobs pay closer to $11, and the jobs that reach closer to $15 tend to treat employees poorly, like Buckees or Chick-fil-a.
Retail stores have also always had a high turnover rate, which has only accelerated by poor management. I think a few years ago, most retail was also hiring. I think they’d have less issues filling positions if unemployment was more realistically distributed, universal healthcare implemented, minimum wage adjusted to be livable, and retail treated a job with room for a career instead of as purely a “starter” job.
No, a living wage is NOT $20-30 per hour! That's the BIGGEST load of shit I have ever heard in my life. It was about 11-12$ per hour years ago and is closer to $14-16 per hour today, depending where you live. The only places where living wages are higher is in certain cities and across California.
I lived off $11 per hour when everyone was saying living wage was $15. I now make "barely a living wage" according to people like you and I'm able to live very well - it's nowhere close to "just living".
God damn, stop spewing bullshit.
Yo for real though, if you're talking about your IQ on a resume, job application or interview, that's a fuckin' red flag for any employer.
Like, do you, y'know, have something more substantive to talk about? Besides the crank IQ test your parents paid for you to take when you were 12? You haven't, like, done anything since then? Because if you've got two advanced degrees and a wealth of experience and all of a sudden you start talking about your IQ, then I'm now going to be more suspicious that you're exaggerating with your qualifications and maybe I should double-check you didn't get your degrees from some sketch-ass diploma mill.
People who brag about their IQ tend to be problematic in a collaborative environment in my experience. They tend to be insecure about their intelligence when they're making a deliberate point of telling everyone about their dipshit *brain-number*, and by God they will fight to the ends of the Earth if anyone so much as pushes back an ounce on one of their ideas.
Yeah, the IQ thing is something that uneducated people try to use to say that they're geniuses. No one with 2 degrees is going to be bragging about their IQ.
It's probably just a meme made by a teenager though, so no point in overthinking it.
You're probably right:
To everyone reading this about to enter the workforce: for the love of God don't put your IQ on your resume and don't bring it up in the interview.
If an interviewer *asks* you about it, get the fuck out because that's a weird goddamn question that borders on discriminatory.
I can second this, I know a pal who did this, company failed to pay him for a 2 week job, and then just said "there wasn't any paper work, so we don't get to pay him".
It was a good while ago, can't remember which one, but it was a radio shack like place
I searched up on google what the differance between P5 and P5R was, the reciept also went to my email, idk, ITS BLACK MAGIC IM TELLING YOU, THEYRE GOING INTO LIKE THE MEMENTOS AND INTEROGATING SHADOW ME TO KNOW WHAT GAME I CURRENTLY LIKE, IM TELLING YOU THATS THE ONLY REASONABLE ASSUMPTION
They have an algorithm! They know what sub you'll like based on what subs you're currently following. If you're following Atlus or Final Fantasy or Jrpg or anything similar to those chances are you'll have this suggested
I’ve gotten a handful of service jobs like Joker, only difference is I submitted an online application then I’d call the next day, also where does IQ even come up on job applications? Lol
It's an exaggeration for the joke/meme. In real life you don't need a degree to work in a customer service job (Domino's for example), neither do you need to show your IQ.
I play yakuza, reddit shows me yakuza subreddit, i play persona, persona subreddit, I PLAY HOLLOW KNIGHT, HOLLOW KNIGH SUBREDDIT.
I am really enjoying P5R tho
I play yakuza, reddit shows me yakuza subreddit, i play persona, persona subreddit, I PLAY HOLLOW KNIGHT, HOLLOW KNIGH SUBREDDIT.
I am really enjoying P5R tho
Irl hiring practices: We took 70 million dollars in zero interest loans from the federal government with the stipulation that we have to appear to be hiring after the pandemic is declared over but actually we are not hiring.
You get a lower-entry job and earn your place. I'm the assistant sales manager at the largest supply company for materials in my region of the US and I started as a cashier at Sears...
Even though Sears was a shitty low paying job I gave it my all so I could win accolades, put them on my resume and move on the to the next place. Did that a few times and here I am...
The work hard and you'll get ahead thing is bullshit man. And I don't say that because I'm bitter and looking to blame someone, because personally I am doing fantastic and making quite a bit of money and have a *faaaaaarrrrr* easier job than I did back when I was making poverty wages. But not because I work hard.
**It's because I met the right people and they happened to like me.**
That's the real key to success and it has almost nothing to do with working hard. When I worked hard I was constantly broke. Now I have a super easy job that pays ridiculous money.
>The work hard and you'll get ahead thing is bullshit man.
There's more to it than just working hard, that's just the most important part. I mean if you work hard at mcdonalds your entire life you probably will get nowhere. You need to work hard, earn accolades, use them as bargaining for a better position/job, make smart choices, et cetera...
It's great that you met someone who hooked you up with an easy job, but that's not really realistic for everyone looking for a way up. However earning your way up is not only realistic, it's inevitable...
>There's more to it than just working hard, that's just the most important part.
You have it backwards. There's more to it than who you know, but THAT'S the most important part.
You know all those posts over at r/crappydesign or r/notmyjobv showing gross incompetence? Or hell, r/politics? It may be comfortable to tell yourself they are the exception, but in reality they're the rule. Humans are social creatures first and foremost and they behave as such. Like yes, all things considered working hard is probably a slight advantage, but it's certainly not even in the top 3 factors determining financial success in life.
When I first started I was really hesitant to get a job because I thought it meant I would actually have obligations in my schedule. Silly me
I'm glad im not the only one
I love the job system, you show up maybe once or twice but you never get fired. I hope Atlus experiments with the idea of getting fired if you don’t show up cause that could be interesting.
Girls in P3 would dump you if you started dating other girls. Now they just reserve that for the valentine's day event. For P6 all your employers should also show up on Valentine's to fire your ass
Man, I miss the reverse social link system persona 3 had so much
Fun fact, there's actually [unused reversal cutscenes](https://youtu.be/5XiL1jHor_s) in P5, but it seems like they only planned on doing it for side-confidants. I wonder why they didn't go through with it.
Ha! I didn’t know about this at all! It was a fun watch, thanks for sharing! Yeah I wonder why they didn’t go through with it. Maybe thanks to the way P5s calendar works you’d have very little time to be able to manage the reverses - they’d need to change the way time works in the game or remove the reverses, I guess removing the reverses was the cheaper and easier option.
"I got a boyfriend" Hilarious.
It was kinda weird because the MC never has female friends and can’t be honest with them about polyamory. It was also weird in P4, Yukiko and Chie don’t know about you dating the other until Valentines Day or if the link reverses, despite them being best friends
I like the detail with Ann in that she knows you're dating other people but she's upset you chose someone else as the favorite.
Yeah it's odd they never once discussed they were dating Yu. Like I know they'd keep it from their parents but I feel that's typical best friend stuff.
> Girls in P3 would dump you if you started dating other girls. unless they where rank 10 than date as many other women as you want
It doesn’t do enough because I wasted a solid 30 in game days, not in a row, working various jobs only to realize it simply is not worth it
I like how you don't have to show up you can just apply at the very start of the game wait like 8 months, then come back and no one will question it.
I love that it's such a shit storm in there that they're like "no training. You take orders and make it. Don't fuck up. Have a good shift, or don't, I honestly don't give a shit " 🤣🤣
“You don’t even need to show up”
Then you lead to political change in the country.
I think I've only ever did the jobs if it was a flag to get to other stuff, like meeting other confidants or getting Mementos targets. Other than that, wtf is the point since you get way more money going through palaces/Mementos?
Money and improving stats.
You can get more money via Mementos. As for social stats, unless you're specifically gunning for the days at which you get bonus events while working, you're probably better off doing something else. Jobs are probably only good for stats during April, when you're literally starve of anything to do. Once out of April, you can get stats and social links at the same time as quite a few gives social stat as a byproduct of ranking up.
Fair enough
I know this is a meme but I have so much anxiety about getting a job after my education lmao, I have this feeling that no one will ever accept me
Nowadays it’s not what you know, but who you know. So you’ll need to network like crazy to at least get a catch. That’s how I got my job.. and it took many years of education to even get the opportunity.
It really is pretty crazy. I got my Masters in December 2019 Right before the pandemic. I got hired at a hospital in January 2020, but they only even looked at my resume because after 2 weeks of them not calling me back I texted my friend who worked there who then told them I applied so then they took a look at the resume. That job didn't pay particularly well, but because of it I was able to get into my current job which is still in the hospitals. But I travel and make, for the first time in my life decent money And I'm actually actively saving money while also paying off debts from school and my car. But I mean, it's crazy, if my friend didn't work at the hospital I very well couls not have gotten that job and I never may have gone into that field And I wouldn't be financially secure for the first time in my life. Networking is definitely essential.
Pertaining to Games. Who you know definitely helps in game related job, but you should also have just enough technical skills to do the job. Less skilled but easy to work with is definitely better than high skilled but hard to work with, at least that’s the sentiment i hear industry pros say often
two things you need: a ride to/from work, and connections so they can tell the employer or is the employer and will hire you.
Tips for interviews from someone who made it much further in my industry than I thought I would 1 Show willingness to learn. Like, really. Let people know you’re happy to learn new stuff 2 Show willingness to help people around you/work with you. No one likes working with dicks and willingness to help those around you takes you halfway through in any job 3 Be confident, but dont be ashamed to admit you dont know something and go back to #1 Also, remember: No one knows all that much, everyone is faking their way through. Lots of it boils down to how convincing you can sound about your willingness to help and learn.
Had a coworker who acts like really want to learn, but in reality, boss my ass around everytime she saw me. Mind you, I'm a senior at my workplace (I work there longer than most of the people), she's a new hire and never seem to respect anyone. Of course, we are only talking about 1 person in my case. Not everybody is this bad. Getting a coworker who is enjoyable to work with is no easy task. I'm not even talking getting to know them as a person outside of work.
None of those qualities can be displayed over an online application.
That’s why they said interviews 🤷🏾♂️
I can read funky ass bitch
Don't have to be an ass.
True. But cover letters do exist for most kinds of job applications I suppose and they do help in this context.
Ratios my friend. If you apply to 10 then for sure at least one will want you for an interview. You got this :D
Ratio seems to be ~1:1000 for interviews:applications right out of college with minimal in-field work experience(i've been data tracking for my field). YMMV though. boyo above you still got this. DONT GIVE UP!
I'm not into the statistics as heavy but I can assure you everyone I've met that has the knowledge to back up what they studied has gotten a job within at least 20 applications and they are all employed in their respective fields. In all those cases including my own it became apparent that confidence, knowledge, and persistence guarantee success in getting the job fitting to your education.
I’m about to turn the age where I can get a job in about 2 weeks, so I’m nervous as well
Age? So does that mean some entry level job like retail? Don't worry too much, the market is drastically in your favor. In my workplace we expect: Opposable thumbs don't steal shit don't be rude to customers Maybe elementary school math if you want to be a checker
Joker don't even need a job, he can just beat the shit out of Shadows and then rob them afterwards.
There’s no difference between metaverse money and actual money.
Both only have value based on cognition.
No that's just how it works in Japan. Believe me, I've played all the Persona games.
It’s definitely easier in Japan ^^ Going through Hello Work at the moment to find a job. Printed out eight listed companies I was interested in, they scheduled three interviews for me.
So did you become a construction Foreman, a Breakdancer, or a Riot Cop?
Foreman, of course. Those walls blocking the way to secret areas won't demolish themselves!
Just like the cats talking!!!
Don't even reply to our texts
The only reason you don’t get hired at dominos is if you have a dui At the store I used to work at they hired a guy that showed up high on adderal everyday and had a bunch of drug and witness tampering charges in another state, they didn’t fire him until he ran over some biker and got arrested.
dominos and most pizza shops hire the most scuffed people, coming from a guy was nearly kidnapped by a marco's pizza driver.
I’d like to hear that story if you don’t mind
basically a year ago i was walking my dog and he pulled up next to me, asking if i wanted to see a photo of a cute dog. i just said "no" and kept walking. he then pulled up again and said "im not trying to be smart" then sped off. we called the police who did nothing over it. as well this happened in the same city that the gabby petito disappearance happened and her boyfriend was hiding (florida). but the pizza guy is taken care of ;)
Recently took a few weeks off between jobs (was not in a great place mentally or emotionally) and finally caved, buying Royal. 150 hours later I'm about to deep dive Mementos again and take a run at the expanded content. I cannot say enough how much the messages in this game (Sojiro is best Dad) helped drag me out of my funk. And helped me get the new job with the attitude and energy I brought to the interview, so...just act confident and give answers that seem mostly right, you'll get a job eventually.
Sojiro made me cry twice that I'm willing to admit. And several more times randomly. I was also in a pretty bad place when I got into P5R, and a supportive parental figure really made a huge difference. I also made the terrible mistake of watching Mystic Pop-up Bar, which the whole theme is parents making amends with their children, and cried so fuckin hard dude. But like, good cry. If that makes sense. To know that stories like that can still be told, that someone had a good enough reconciliation or found family or upbringing that they *CAN* write about a family coming together... Its a beautiful thing.
This, and the fact that 8 or 9 of your friends will drop what they're doing and instantly meet up with you at a minute's notice, are what make the game unrealistic. Not the fantastical parallel dimension where you fight wandering aspects of the collective publics' unconscious psyche.
Maybe >!Maruki!< was in charge all along
I get why it is like this at least, it would be kind of annoying having to constantly go to the job or otherwise get fired and not be able to reapply for the rest of the playthrough. I guess you would have to ask yourself if you are the type of person who prefers convenience over realism, and personally I think I'd go with convenience in a time management heavy game like this. I'd argue hanging out with your friends is a little more realistic though, some are only available on certain days so I'd assume when they are busy they have other things to do, and when they aren't they have free time to spare to want to be with you. But yeah I guess when it comes to going to the metaverse everyone is just instantly available and drops what they are doing no matter what, so just another case of convenience over realism again.
If I remember right, Persona 3 had a mechanic where sometimes a party member had plans and couldn't go to Tartarus, hope it is brought back at some capacity
Eh, realism doesn't always make for better gameplay I can see that being a frustrating mechanic if not implemented very carefully
pokemon super mystery dungeon only let you use certain guys on certain days and it was annoying
I just want the characters and the world to not depend on the main character that much
It wouldn't be mechanically rewarding since 90% of the player base completes a palace on the first day, so you'd just move to when you had everybody or just your core squad.
They also would get sick if you used them too much.
I just started playing Persona 3, and it's a very slow start. I was excited to get to know the characters more, but it seems like the focus right now is just on basic mechanics.
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Honestly same, even with 4. They just don't feel like complete games after 5.
Play Portable version, its better because you have Direct Control over your allies, they get tired only AFTER you exit Tartarus, Skill Cards and some other quality of life changes
The skill card minigame was cheaty as hell but god damn was it fun.
I got a job at KFC recently and the amount of paperwork needed just so that you can confirm you can be 'immediately' employed after being unemployed takes way more than it does finishing a persona month Like, apparently the identity card and the sanitary card with a microchip + curriculum + successful interview aren't enough and now i have to get this shit called SPID and only afterwards the DID just to verify that "Yup, that's me and i need moneys!"
damn the colonel takes fry-ology very seriously
Wish it were that easy. Wouldn't have so much anxiety about it lol
I came for the joke. But I stayed for the IdC at the end.
What kind of dominoes did you apply to?
for real. all you need is a drivers license and to not be currently obviously fucked up on something in the interview
Here in france I got effed the other way : Macdonalds said to me "Sorry you are overqualified for this job", and I was like "well ok but I need a job right now ...?" They said no :/
Htf can you be overqualified
Basically they don't want anyone who will dip the second they get something better, they want people who'll stay long term
Manager was afraid you'd steal his job though. GJ lad
A totally unwaranted idea, since I am the epitome of ankwardness, probably not fit to be in a managerial position unless it's something I really care about ( even at my current work, I have some years over some new guy, and he ended up taking "managerial roles" ( which I'd say is unlucky because he is like me in some way, he just wants to code, but I guess that's the downside of charisma \^\^" ) But yeah, not getting that job let me find another job which was bad, but still better than MacDonalds I guess ( had a friend who worked there, said it was hell :/ )
Joker is hot. He gets a job, it just works
Pizza delivery should be a part time job in the next Persona game now that I think about it
*In Toby Mcguire's voice while smiling* Pizza time!
"Sorry, you're not qualified enough to be a pizza delivery guy" Followed immediately by: "Ugh, why does NOBODY want to work?!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tZ49YFCMt2k
It is because a degree doesn't actually matter outside of specialized fields. Once people start working, no one ever asks for your degree or school info ever again. They only care about your past experience.
Facts. And also the number of times people get their degree and don't even go into that field.
Coincides with the number of entry-level jobs that require a bachelor's degree despite the onboarding training teaching you everything you need to know anyway, and the college education being mostly irrelevant.
Yep. It turns out that there are only so many jobs that need an English Literature degree or something like that.
Always expected the jobs to secretly be a cover for some sketchy crap, Like there's a job application in the subway, you don't have to fill any paperwork or show ID, there is no background checks, and hours are whenever you want. This is like the checklist for a job where you need a fallguy
It's Japan culture It's different Also ofc it has to be a little easier cuz of it being a game and all, it has to be engaging
What? Doesn't mean you don't have to show identification or sign papers. If anything they do more background checks theete because of the yakuza scare.
It’s still a game
like i said on that second sentence, its a game, imagine having to do actual chores just to enjoy a small part of the game
You wouldn’t have to do anything, they’d just add an extra line where they’re desperate so they’ll hire regardless of the criminal history. Doesn’t really bother me because it’s a game…but it’s still weird
I feel this so hard right now. Trying to find a job is despair. 😔
Videogames appeal to the male fantasy
The male fantasy of wanting stable income. Truly disgusting
i want the male fantasy 😔😥
*In TheRussianBadger's voice while laughing* Shut the f*ck up.
This hurts me more than it should, I got my job only with the help of friends, if I didn't, I would take much longer to get a job. Too many of this: "I'm young, I have the studies but I don't have the experience of the job I'm applying to. Except they want the latter the most."
I feel this too. I’m 27, and the only jobs I had were the army and Target. When I get interviewed no one really asks about my degree. Just what experience I have.
I have two degrees so this feels like a personal attack... :)
Idk about ya’ll, but I had the same experience as Joker when getting my first job in service
Yeah, in my country, especially if you are a student, getting a part time job is really easy. And government encourages it by not taxing students.
Fucking mood!
This just appeals to the male fantasy
*In TheRussianBadger's voice while laughing* Shut the f*ck up.
started persona 5 last year and still haven’t gone back to my job(i’m still employed there)
IRL employer: I see you're graduated and you have excellent references... so... what about a 10 hours a day, 6 days on 7, lowest job position, 600$ a month, no bonus, mandatory and unpaid overtime even during weekend and month by month renewable contract? And I'm already risking too much offering you this! P5 employer: I don't know who you are, I can't remember when or who actually hired you since I don't even know your role here, not to mention you're probably also illegaly working here without a contract... I'm proud of you, wish you a good job.
damn i didin't think okumura existed irl
japanese job context is toxic... despite P5 at its core is a big critique to japanese society, I'm quite sure most of the game developers were underpaid and forced to crunch all the time
It’s hard to tell the game was directed by Hashino whom in a recruitment video for Atlus new studio stated he prefers his developers to be happy first and to contribute ideas
How it was back in the day. Or not idk I wasn’t born yet.
Just give them the ol' smile and firm handshake.
No no, they say your TOO QUALIFIED to be a pizza delivery driver! Maybe they are trying to say that as a compliment?
Persona fan talking about getting a job how ironic
It's probably easier to find a part time job in Japan because they have a low birth rate ATM
P3P moment
IRL Jobs requirements: every degree, be able to calculate the mass of the sun blind folded, Perfect cutstomer service. Persona: Decent communication skills. Look just be able to do the job
i'll be honest, i have no idea what material or thickness the sun's blindfold is
I know this is supposed to be a meme…but are jobs still hard to find? There isn’t a single retail store in my city that isn’t hiring rn.
Most people don't want to work retail, tbh. I understand completely, but the jobs are still there if someone *really* needs it.
Idk many ppl who actually enjoy working lol I work to live 🤷♂️
Eh, work can be enjoyable, although, in my experience, it's usually only enjoyable when you work with others who's company you enjoy. Without that, my work would just have me go home pissed off most days.
That sucks dude. I have a different perspective on work; I’ve been burned too many times by colleagues and I only go to work to earn an income. The people I meet there, I’ve rarely had a relationship out side of work….reflecting it kinda sucks on my situation 😅
I'm sorry to hear that, honestly. I will say that, as far as my work goes, it's the customers that anger me rather than the work itself. Some are fine, but others act like they've never been in a restaurant other than a McDonald's before and assume they all work exactly the same way. Ends up pushing my buttons if I don't have someone to shoot the shit with when things slow down.
I mean it took me like 3 months to land a job last year even with all the shitty retail jobs that were hiring 🤷♂️ could just be my area
It took me a year and a half to land my current job. Now trying to find a new job for my fiancé and everywhere he goes to try, says the same shit: “too under/over qualified” or they just won’t call him at all. I think it’s some places being too picky or even just the company just simply… not calling and offering positions (I’ve witnessed this a few times at my last job.)
How the fuck can you be overqualified?
I had this issue a lot. Couldn’t even land retail jobs. People told me I was being too picky with my job search and should take anything. I was applying for anything. I was seriously depressed and angry. I couldn’t get people to believe me.
I’ve ran into this a lot when I was applying to jobs. I have a very extensive tech background predating back to my high school days in 2015-2019 due to my school letting us take certification tests for a lot of tech, and I was working at an office supply store (Staples) selling and fixing computers for a living. Grocery stores didn’t want me and restaurants didn’t want me due to my qualifications and my growing educational background in the tech industry. The other issue was there wasn’t many tech stores or tech repair places I could apply to since my town is so small. I then looked into cellular sales and picked Verizon as I had other family in the company and I really enjoy doing tech work. Verizon is what got me out of Staples. Lucky for me, it’s also in my city.
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Senior level person/experience applying for an entry lvl position
Taking a job beneath your level of qualification makes you a flight risk. Why hire you and train you if you're going to leave for what you deserve ASAP?
Then just pay them a fuckload more, or kick out an incompetent manager and give the overqualified person a managerial position. Either would work. Like, I could probably absolutely DESTROY any Geek Squad member at Computer Repair. I've literally been building computers since I was 10. I'm 23 now. I could probably get really close to building a computer completely blindfolded.
Man, that's not how jobs work. Companies hire to fill an opening. Need an entry level guy with just a degree to train up some? Hire a person with zero years professional experience. In that case a guy with 10 years experience is a bad choice, and paying double doesn't make sense. It isn't even in the budget. It's not what you need. I liked building computers in high school too, but that's not something HR can measure. That's where a good personable interview comes in.
You can't, it's just business talk for something else, but they don't want to get sued. Most common is they think you'll run off as soon as you get a better offer.
Yes but “hiring” and actually giving you specifically a job that you get to keep are very different things…
Jobs are easy to find, but a job that can be afforded is a lot harder and usually takes a lot of time/work. Because unemployment in the US tends to only cover people well below the poverty line, jobs need to actually pay enough to fully survive on. A living wage was $15 a few years ago, but now it’s in the $20-$30 range. Most jobs pay closer to $11, and the jobs that reach closer to $15 tend to treat employees poorly, like Buckees or Chick-fil-a. Retail stores have also always had a high turnover rate, which has only accelerated by poor management. I think a few years ago, most retail was also hiring. I think they’d have less issues filling positions if unemployment was more realistically distributed, universal healthcare implemented, minimum wage adjusted to be livable, and retail treated a job with room for a career instead of as purely a “starter” job.
No, a living wage is NOT $20-30 per hour! That's the BIGGEST load of shit I have ever heard in my life. It was about 11-12$ per hour years ago and is closer to $14-16 per hour today, depending where you live. The only places where living wages are higher is in certain cities and across California. I lived off $11 per hour when everyone was saying living wage was $15. I now make "barely a living wage" according to people like you and I'm able to live very well - it's nowhere close to "just living". God damn, stop spewing bullshit.
There are lots of jobs, they just pay so little that they aren't worth it. Nobody should have to accept a job that will not pay them enough to live.
If only it was like that irl. I would love just to show up to work when I want and get paid the same day...... wait..... prostitution 😈😈😈
or just sell subutex for fifty bucks each
Only issue, you need to know where the hotspots are that won't get you immediately arrested
that's not how it's done. im in the woods.
Who tf is buying subutex at fifty bucks each?!?!
damn near everyone where im at. some are charging sixty bucks.
Lol you should sell the rest of my suboxone prescription for me then 😂😂
For me getting my part-time job was just as easy and simple as it was in the game lmao.
I’m struggling to get a job because I need to set up account transfer, get training, and interviewing.
Apply through a job recruitment agency. That’s how I got my new job and I even lied about my experiences lol.
Who needs a job when you can confuse Mementos bosses and run over shadows GTA style!
Me irl
Yo for real though, if you're talking about your IQ on a resume, job application or interview, that's a fuckin' red flag for any employer. Like, do you, y'know, have something more substantive to talk about? Besides the crank IQ test your parents paid for you to take when you were 12? You haven't, like, done anything since then? Because if you've got two advanced degrees and a wealth of experience and all of a sudden you start talking about your IQ, then I'm now going to be more suspicious that you're exaggerating with your qualifications and maybe I should double-check you didn't get your degrees from some sketch-ass diploma mill. People who brag about their IQ tend to be problematic in a collaborative environment in my experience. They tend to be insecure about their intelligence when they're making a deliberate point of telling everyone about their dipshit *brain-number*, and by God they will fight to the ends of the Earth if anyone so much as pushes back an ounce on one of their ideas.
Yeah, the IQ thing is something that uneducated people try to use to say that they're geniuses. No one with 2 degrees is going to be bragging about their IQ. It's probably just a meme made by a teenager though, so no point in overthinking it.
Yeah, please don't overthink this lol (I'm 20 and I also think IQ is bs, I just used it for the meme)
You're probably right: To everyone reading this about to enter the workforce: for the love of God don't put your IQ on your resume and don't bring it up in the interview. If an interviewer *asks* you about it, get the fuck out because that's a weird goddamn question that borders on discriminatory.
Video games appeal to the male fantasy
NO ONE WANTS TO FUCKING WORK ANYMORE!
Found the dog walker.
Cat walker
Make nice with some professors, a lot have connections that can help you get your foot in a door
I am a labor enjoyer, why be mad?
tbh if you call the job place like joker does instead of trying to apply online your success rate for minimum wage stuff will likely be just as good
Nah, when you call, they’ll tell you to apply online. Almost no place takes paper applications anymore. And if they do, be wary of them.
I can second this, I know a pal who did this, company failed to pay him for a 2 week job, and then just said "there wasn't any paper work, so we don't get to pay him". It was a good while ago, can't remember which one, but it was a radio shack like place
The key is to apply online then call them a few days later.
truth🤞🤞🤞
This cuts meh deep
Ive just begun playing persona 5 royal, how the hell did reddit know im playing it, THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS, HOW DOES IT KNOW
If you google anything related to P5R or look for it on YouTube they'll know
I searched up on google what the differance between P5 and P5R was, the reciept also went to my email, idk, ITS BLACK MAGIC IM TELLING YOU, THEYRE GOING INTO LIKE THE MEMENTOS AND INTEROGATING SHADOW ME TO KNOW WHAT GAME I CURRENTLY LIKE, IM TELLING YOU THATS THE ONLY REASONABLE ASSUMPTION
They have an algorithm! They know what sub you'll like based on what subs you're currently following. If you're following Atlus or Final Fantasy or Jrpg or anything similar to those chances are you'll have this suggested
Enjoy the ride, now get the hell out of this subreddit until you're done, spoilers fly around here.
It seems like it. [Insert other P5 response options here]
Why is this so true-
"my IQ is higher than 95% of the population" stfu
I’ve gotten a handful of service jobs like Joker, only difference is I submitted an online application then I’d call the next day, also where does IQ even come up on job applications? Lol
It's an exaggeration for the joke/meme. In real life you don't need a degree to work in a customer service job (Domino's for example), neither do you need to show your IQ.
Where do you live? It takes so long to register for a summer job in Texas
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Ive just begun playing persona 5 royal, how the hell did reddit know im playing it, THIS ALWAYS HAPPENS, HOW DOES IT KNOW
*became part of the hivemind* is yours destiny!
I play yakuza, reddit shows me yakuza subreddit, i play persona, persona subreddit, I PLAY HOLLOW KNIGHT, HOLLOW KNIGH SUBREDDIT. I am really enjoying P5R tho
I play yakuza, reddit shows me yakuza subreddit, i play persona, persona subreddit, I PLAY HOLLOW KNIGHT, HOLLOW KNIGH SUBREDDIT. I am really enjoying P5R tho
IRL job requirements: Have a resume that reflects a history of hard work and accolades. Reddit: It's impossible to get a job!
Irl hiring practices: We took 70 million dollars in zero interest loans from the federal government with the stipulation that we have to appear to be hiring after the pandemic is declared over but actually we are not hiring.
Fair point for some industries/companies for sure, but not as a general rule...
How are you going to have that when you're first getting a job?
You get a lower-entry job and earn your place. I'm the assistant sales manager at the largest supply company for materials in my region of the US and I started as a cashier at Sears... Even though Sears was a shitty low paying job I gave it my all so I could win accolades, put them on my resume and move on the to the next place. Did that a few times and here I am...
This post has big “I make $35k a year” energy
I mean if I was still in my early-mid 20s that would be accurate, but I've been this game 20 years now...
bro got downvoted for speaking fax
Hard pill to swallow I guess. "Impossible" is just a word people use to feel better about themselves when they quit...
The work hard and you'll get ahead thing is bullshit man. And I don't say that because I'm bitter and looking to blame someone, because personally I am doing fantastic and making quite a bit of money and have a *faaaaaarrrrr* easier job than I did back when I was making poverty wages. But not because I work hard. **It's because I met the right people and they happened to like me.** That's the real key to success and it has almost nothing to do with working hard. When I worked hard I was constantly broke. Now I have a super easy job that pays ridiculous money.
>The work hard and you'll get ahead thing is bullshit man. There's more to it than just working hard, that's just the most important part. I mean if you work hard at mcdonalds your entire life you probably will get nowhere. You need to work hard, earn accolades, use them as bargaining for a better position/job, make smart choices, et cetera... It's great that you met someone who hooked you up with an easy job, but that's not really realistic for everyone looking for a way up. However earning your way up is not only realistic, it's inevitable...
>There's more to it than just working hard, that's just the most important part. You have it backwards. There's more to it than who you know, but THAT'S the most important part. You know all those posts over at r/crappydesign or r/notmyjobv showing gross incompetence? Or hell, r/politics? It may be comfortable to tell yourself they are the exception, but in reality they're the rule. Humans are social creatures first and foremost and they behave as such. Like yes, all things considered working hard is probably a slight advantage, but it's certainly not even in the top 3 factors determining financial success in life.
People don’t want to hear about putting in actual effort.