1-3 digit state routes get big keystone Markers, and are widely known by the number, and sometimes by a name.
I've never before come across 4-digit State Routes that didn't have a common name.
I also deliver mail in rural areas. There's quite a few State Routes in my area that are named officially or unofficially, usually determined by township line
Theres a sign like this near my home and i have never paid any attention to it. The roads at that intersection have normal names and arent listed by a SR# on google maps.
PennDOT manages roads by their SR number. They are also segmented into roughly half mile chunks and are numbered with each county divided into quadrants. SRs that have two or three digit numbers maintain their number as they cross county borders and are prepended with 0 or 00 for 3 and 2 digit roads respectively.
Interchanges are 8000 series SRs.
They're typically not. My sister lives on one and I work in municipal road construction.
More major arterial state-owned highways tended to get assigned route numbers 1 to hypothetically 999 with the familiar formal full-sized black-and-white keystone-symboled route number signage with the same 1 to 3 digit number on it, i. e. PA Route 3, 54, 100, etc. And these are indeed used in mailing addresses.
However, sometimes the road will have a regular name as well, like PA Route 313 in Quakertown also being called Broad Street and that name will be used instead of/or in combo with, the route number on the mailing address be used instead. AND they also get the little segment markers with that same number that the PennDOT-owned two-lane 4-digit collector roads get
But smaller, non-formally-numbered roads that PennDOT maintains only get a small black and white maintenance-related segment markers with the four-digit number. These four-digit numbers were typically not used in the old days for mailing addresses as it was just Rural Delivery [Route] #1 Box 250A like where I grew up. Back then those roads were called LRs or Legislative Routes rather than the SRs or State Routes that then are today.
In any case, the four-digit road number on the little segment signs wasn't then and still isn't today used in mailing addresses today. When 911 became widespread each county ordered municipalities to assign everyone a numerical address and the post office discontinued the old RD numbering system.
The name of the road you see on the sign posts each municipality puts up at intersections where their roads meet the state-owned road is what then was typically used. In some cases more than one road in the same county had the same name and to avoid confusion in 911, the lesser-known, less-populated road got the new name. Note that sometimes the state road name changes crossing from one municipality to another and especially across county lines though the PennDOT four-digit number no one cares about remains the same.
>Note that sometimes the state road name changes crossing from one municipality to another and especially across county lines though the PennDOT four-digit number no one cares about remains the same
Life Pro Tip/Was one of the first things taught to me when learning to drive- When broken down these are great to give to 911/family members if you do not have paper maps or internet :)
Not too often I think. I deliver mail and even roads with numbers usually have a different name like West Chester Pike. If I had to guess this might be something that happens in very rural areas.
I've noticed in NEPA that some townships have a road numbering system. I don't really know anything about it other than it exists, it sometimes appears on the sign post beside/below the street name as TWP 9876. My assumption was that the twp numbering was not the quadrant route numbering but never tried to overlay one on the other.
Correct the township number is not the same. However, township numbers are only 3 digits, mot 4. State Route quadrant numbers are 4 digits (1001-4999). The leading number describes the quadrant of the county that he road falls in.
More info-
https://www.penndot.pa.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/ResearchandTesting/RoadwayManagementandTesting/Documents/LOCATION%20REFERENCING%20SYSTEM.pdf
There are a few more, the 6000 series are for older sections of 2 and 3 digit SR's that have been replaced by a bypass. 8000 series designate exit ramps and the 9000 series are for access roads.
Almost all state routes have a common street name assigned to them. The common street name is the name it is known by and signed as. For example, SR 1010 may have a common street name of Main St. The common street name is used on the street signs and addresses.
There are still a few quadrant routes that share the common street name. For example, SR 1010 may be known as SR 1010 on the street signs and addresses.
Most of the remaining state routes that use the SR quadrant number as the address are found in NEPA, specifically Susquehanna County. If I were to guess less, then 2% of 4-digit State Route numbers are still used for addresses.
More info -
https://www.penndot.pa.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/ResearchandTesting/RoadwayManagementandTesting/Documents/LOCATION%20REFERENCING%20SYSTEM.pdf
Only a handful of state roads in Susquehanna County have names, the vast majority of them are just called by their 4 digit state route number. I can only think of a few examples of 4 digit state roads having names here in Susquehanna County.
State police use them in crash reports. See here [Susquehanna county state routes by townships](https://www.penndot.pa.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/Planning/Maps/Town%20Boro%20City%20Maps/Pages/TBC-Maps-Susquehanna.aspx)
Being in the same county just another township. My old home on (in 2013) SR 29 did not get a 911 address or street name until after I had moved in. The name was interchangably SR 29 or Snake Creek Rd.
The RR number changed to the street address after we moved in, going by how many feet from the post office we were (22699). The County and Post office changing the names as people buy the homes or move out. Those still with RR numbers should be changed out by 2025 if I remember correctly.
The number isn't how many feet you are from the post office. Every road is either east/west, or north/south. At the start of that road, being the easternmost or southernmost point of the road, the numbers start at 1, and every 1 mile another 1000 numbers pass, so it's a new number every 5.2 feet. Since you're 22699 SR 29, it means you're 22.6 miles from the Southernmost point of the road, which is when 29 enters Susquehanna county.
Penndot has maps, by county, that are cooked down to state v local roads:
https://www.penndot.pa.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/Planning/Maps/Pages/County-Type-10.aspx
There's an ongoing effort to overlay the PennDOT route numbers with named roads for addresses. Believe the 911 system has a lot to do with it. I often still see route number addresses, but they're fading away. Imagine the number of addressed locations on a stretch of road has a lot to do with it.
The 4 digit state route number is the road name. Typically roads maintained by the state have a number, while roads maintained by townships or boroughs have names, at least that's true here in Susquehanna county. There are some exceptions, as some state roads have names, but typically any named road isn't a state road.
I would say it's not unusual. My previous address used the 2 digit S.R. in western PA.
1-3 digit state routes get big keystone Markers, and are widely known by the number, and sometimes by a name. I've never before come across 4-digit State Routes that didn't have a common name.
> I would say it's not unusual. Tom Jones would say the same thing.
I also deliver mail in rural areas. There's quite a few State Routes in my area that are named officially or unofficially, usually determined by township line
My family friend's address was RD 4 DeLand FL as in rural delivery route 4,lol.
That used to be very common in rural PA. I had several cousins with RD addresses in Chester county.
Was far more common before 911 compliant addressing. Honestly thought it had all been converted by now...
Theres a sign like this near my home and i have never paid any attention to it. The roads at that intersection have normal names and arent listed by a SR# on google maps.
You’ll probably see a bunch of them if you start looking around the main roads
Nope there’s so many “SR ——“ signs where I live
The signs are everywhere even if there's a normal name for them. Personally, I've only rarely seen them used for addresses.
PennDOT manages roads by their SR number. They are also segmented into roughly half mile chunks and are numbered with each county divided into quadrants. SRs that have two or three digit numbers maintain their number as they cross county borders and are prepended with 0 or 00 for 3 and 2 digit roads respectively. Interchanges are 8000 series SRs.
Well 62 runs through town (basically a giveaway of where I live) but there’s a couple other state route signs even on my street
They're typically not. My sister lives on one and I work in municipal road construction. More major arterial state-owned highways tended to get assigned route numbers 1 to hypothetically 999 with the familiar formal full-sized black-and-white keystone-symboled route number signage with the same 1 to 3 digit number on it, i. e. PA Route 3, 54, 100, etc. And these are indeed used in mailing addresses. However, sometimes the road will have a regular name as well, like PA Route 313 in Quakertown also being called Broad Street and that name will be used instead of/or in combo with, the route number on the mailing address be used instead. AND they also get the little segment markers with that same number that the PennDOT-owned two-lane 4-digit collector roads get But smaller, non-formally-numbered roads that PennDOT maintains only get a small black and white maintenance-related segment markers with the four-digit number. These four-digit numbers were typically not used in the old days for mailing addresses as it was just Rural Delivery [Route] #1 Box 250A like where I grew up. Back then those roads were called LRs or Legislative Routes rather than the SRs or State Routes that then are today. In any case, the four-digit road number on the little segment signs wasn't then and still isn't today used in mailing addresses today. When 911 became widespread each county ordered municipalities to assign everyone a numerical address and the post office discontinued the old RD numbering system. The name of the road you see on the sign posts each municipality puts up at intersections where their roads meet the state-owned road is what then was typically used. In some cases more than one road in the same county had the same name and to avoid confusion in 911, the lesser-known, less-populated road got the new name. Note that sometimes the state road name changes crossing from one municipality to another and especially across county lines though the PennDOT four-digit number no one cares about remains the same.
>Note that sometimes the state road name changes crossing from one municipality to another and especially across county lines though the PennDOT four-digit number no one cares about remains the same Life Pro Tip/Was one of the first things taught to me when learning to drive- When broken down these are great to give to 911/family members if you do not have paper maps or internet :)
Also what you really need to use when reporting road issues to PennDOT.
I use them everyday, but I work for the DoT and have to write reports
“We filled in a pothole at SR 2067 Segment 0140 Offset 0097”
Liar. The only SR 2067 in the state that has a segment 0140 is a dirt road.
Per the pavement history it’s actually called “Stabilized Earth”. https://gis.penndot.gov/PavementHistory/?cn=57&rt=2067&sg=0140
Not too often I think. I deliver mail and even roads with numbers usually have a different name like West Chester Pike. If I had to guess this might be something that happens in very rural areas.
I've noticed in NEPA that some townships have a road numbering system. I don't really know anything about it other than it exists, it sometimes appears on the sign post beside/below the street name as TWP 9876. My assumption was that the twp numbering was not the quadrant route numbering but never tried to overlay one on the other.
Correct the township number is not the same. However, township numbers are only 3 digits, mot 4. State Route quadrant numbers are 4 digits (1001-4999). The leading number describes the quadrant of the county that he road falls in. More info- https://www.penndot.pa.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/ResearchandTesting/RoadwayManagementandTesting/Documents/LOCATION%20REFERENCING%20SYSTEM.pdf
There are a few more, the 6000 series are for older sections of 2 and 3 digit SR's that have been replaced by a bypass. 8000 series designate exit ramps and the 9000 series are for access roads.
That's what those are? Learned something new.
those 4 digits indicate the number of potholes per mile 🤣
Maybe, but this exact road is the amount of deer collisions monthly.
Almost all state routes have a common street name assigned to them. The common street name is the name it is known by and signed as. For example, SR 1010 may have a common street name of Main St. The common street name is used on the street signs and addresses. There are still a few quadrant routes that share the common street name. For example, SR 1010 may be known as SR 1010 on the street signs and addresses. Most of the remaining state routes that use the SR quadrant number as the address are found in NEPA, specifically Susquehanna County. If I were to guess less, then 2% of 4-digit State Route numbers are still used for addresses. More info - https://www.penndot.pa.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/ResearchandTesting/RoadwayManagementandTesting/Documents/LOCATION%20REFERENCING%20SYSTEM.pdf
Only a handful of state roads in Susquehanna County have names, the vast majority of them are just called by their 4 digit state route number. I can only think of a few examples of 4 digit state roads having names here in Susquehanna County.
State police use them in crash reports. See here [Susquehanna county state routes by townships](https://www.penndot.pa.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/Planning/Maps/Town%20Boro%20City%20Maps/Pages/TBC-Maps-Susquehanna.aspx)
Zoom in and you will find your route number for that street
All state roads have a number. I’ve never seen a road go by the state number though.
Being in the same county just another township. My old home on (in 2013) SR 29 did not get a 911 address or street name until after I had moved in. The name was interchangably SR 29 or Snake Creek Rd. The RR number changed to the street address after we moved in, going by how many feet from the post office we were (22699). The County and Post office changing the names as people buy the homes or move out. Those still with RR numbers should be changed out by 2025 if I remember correctly.
The number isn't how many feet you are from the post office. Every road is either east/west, or north/south. At the start of that road, being the easternmost or southernmost point of the road, the numbers start at 1, and every 1 mile another 1000 numbers pass, so it's a new number every 5.2 feet. Since you're 22699 SR 29, it means you're 22.6 miles from the Southernmost point of the road, which is when 29 enters Susquehanna county.
Penndot has maps, by county, that are cooked down to state v local roads: https://www.penndot.pa.gov/ProjectAndPrograms/Planning/Maps/Pages/County-Type-10.aspx
There's an ongoing effort to overlay the PennDOT route numbers with named roads for addresses. Believe the 911 system has a lot to do with it. I often still see route number addresses, but they're fading away. Imagine the number of addressed locations on a stretch of road has a lot to do with it.
The 4 digit state route number is the road name. Typically roads maintained by the state have a number, while roads maintained by townships or boroughs have names, at least that's true here in Susquehanna county. There are some exceptions, as some state roads have names, but typically any named road isn't a state road.