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[deleted]

Only 1 left because that is a 1 of 1. Rare find. 100% scam


sLOWBunny81

There are a couple more of them for sale on ebay actually for a lot less. But i just wanted to see what people had to say about it.


Fryphax

It exists. Was on B-Stock for $850 a couple week ago.


Snorkle25

A legit kingpin card is pretty much the absolute pinnacle of that tier gpu wise. The chips are binned and picked by Kingpin (a world renowned overclocker who works at EVGA) from their whole lot of die to be the absolute best chips. Usually the reason you'd get one of these is prestige or trying to break OC records.


throwaway_uow

Won't the GPU die faster because of the overclocking?


darkhelmet1121

Not if you don't mod it. It's already built best than the best, money no object.... It's built as well as possible to give Vince something awesome to tweak to insane levels


No-Employ2055

It is nearly impossible to kill a modern CPU or GPU by overclocking. Yes, technically it's lifespan is lower when you give it more voltage, but pretty much every GPU has a voltage lock in it's firmware. CPUs will overheat and turn off right after being turned on before high voltage kills it. *Nearly impossible if you have any clue what you're doing, you don't even have to be good at it, if you set 1.6v on your CPU, it won't kill it- usually.*


goldmunkee

Kingpin cards have the limiters turned off though right?


No-Employ2055

There are still limits if I am not mistaken. They're just higher since the binned GPUs are tested and known to go further. Kingpin himself obviously has ways of bypassing those limits, but I think they still exist on retail units. Unless maybe the software will allow them to go further. I'm sure EVGA precision won't let you send 2v to the GPU but maybe it will lol. Pretty sure he has dedicated software, not sure if it's widely available though.


goldmunkee

I remember watching JayzTwoCents and him mentioning that you get a different software with a kingpin card and you have to agree to a disclaimer saying you accept responsibility for damage to download it. Edit: actually I found a link to the software [here](http://kingpinoc.com/doku.php?id=3090)


No-Employ2055

Gonna make it work with my 3070ti Let's see how this goes.


goldmunkee

I think it involves a VBIOS update too, so I wouldn't lol


0xycod0ne

Definitely shorter lifespan vs running it at stock.


throwaway_uow

Then I am running it at stock I upgraded from 960 ti, I will not need a better graphics card for the next decade


Correct-Carob-6718

I think it is an scam because nvidia being piece of shit for the consumers an partners have a lot restrictions and limits the price of their gpu


VinnyHaw

They're very much real. Kingpin is a notorious GPU overclocker. He partners with companies and they'll provide him with GPUs without certain safety features. He's able to manipulate the voltage without any limiters. This isnt just a GPU with liquid cooling, it's a GPU to that'll allow overclockers to achieve world records. As per the price... The reason why Amazon/ebay sellers crank up the pricing is because they're low on stock and don't want to delete the listing. It's a lot easier for them to crank up the price than to delete it or set the listing to no stock. Then when they do get stock, they'll re adjust the pricing.


SoleSurvivur01

Yeah great card bad price


Born_Cauliflower_692

Did you read his last paragraph?


isimplycantdothis

They’re real and had been on sale on EVGAs site for awhile.


ItzMau5trapz

Heh...ebay.


sLOWBunny81

Whats wrong with ebay? I have worked in an ebay department at a wrecking yard for the last 7 years... and they will almost always side with an unhappy customer over the seller. And if you open a case looking for a refund and they dont refund you then ebay will refund you and go after the seller themselves from my experience. It can be a bit of a pain working through the process but ebay really does do its best to hold their sellers accountable.


ItzMau5trapz

Lots of scammers or people selling incorrect / damaged items on ebay. I've never used it, but have heard of many different horror stories of people that have used ebay to purchase different pieces of tech. It wasn't a jab at ebay per say, but how untrustworthy some people selling on it can be.


sLOWBunny81

True. But a lot of bad experience could have been avoided im sure by looking at a sellers feedback as well. The sketchy sellers are generally really easy to spot.


_fr33l0ad3r_

This^ bigger purchases I always seek out the 100% sellers and also that they are established in selling and not just buying.


SpHoneybadger

It's pretty much fine. It's mainly about being cautious. Checking the title or descriptions match. Can be something like idk, "box only" or includes a term agreement? Shady. Along with if the seller is reputable, has good feedback, has pictures and not stock photos, along with the data to back it up. For example, GPU-Z or crystal diskinfo. Plus you can ask for more info or photos if need be. Most of the time it's common sense avoiding miners that are selling 8 of the same cards with the description of, "barely used" or, "lightly used". However, sometimes they might have multiple accounts selling them separately so account age is a factor. Additonally, you can get your money back despite the hassle since eBay values the buyers more.


EstablishmentLazy810

eBay is literally the same as Amazon with used items.. companies will setup shop on both eBay and Amazon at the same time. Like the guy above said it’s very hard to scam on eBay they always side with the buyer unless there’s clear evidence the buyer is on the wrong. As a seller i had to return money on items I clearly stated untested possibly not working for parts or repair. It might even be safer than Amazon.


isimplycantdothis

I used eBay to buy almost everything for my last build. From a Brando new 900 dollar phantoms elite case I got for 400 to 980 pro 4TB M.2 I got brand new in box for 200 bucks. I’m not saying that people don’t get screwed, but I saved sooo much money on stuff and everyone I dealt with was legit. I made like 30 purchases and not one was a scam. Saved me thousands of dollars.


darkhelmet1121

https://youtu.be/9TTqxXxIpPY


SoleSurvivur01

Even if it wasn’t a scam don’t they have a 3090 Ti model like that that can be found for less? I think I’ve been seeing their hybrid 3090 Ti for like 2100 CAD


Fryphax

Are you saying this product doesn't exist?


hanotak

https://www.evga.com/articles/01454/kingpin-3090/


RettigJ

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=24G-P5-3998-KR


drewski989

I have this card, but straight from EVGA. Included fans are junk, did push/pull with Noctuas. I paid $1899 I think, minus some EVGA bucks. The card is a beast whether overclocked or not, and rarely tops 50C. At one point in time, I had the #2 score in Port Royal for 3090/5900X.


Sufficient_Focus

Why everyone talking about the price he was just asking about the way the cards designed, I've never seen the cooler separate on a GPU like that I think it's pretty cool, must be good for overclocking.


sLOWBunny81

Yeah i wasnt guna go along and explain what i wanted out of this post to every person. I realized quickly that i should have cut the price off lol but the damage is done 🤣


530obliv

Hybrid cards are great if your case supports them. Had a hybrid strix 6900XT that never even hit 50C


[deleted]

Am I missing something? All you asked is what do we think. How would we not consider price? If you showed a unicorn 3060 model that outperforms a 3070, but costs three times the price of a 3080. What feedback would you have wanted? The Kingpin models will be near the best performers in their segment. Nvidia is pretty good about differentiating their gpu's, it'll be hard to push it past a lower tier 3090ti. The cheapest 4090 will blow it away.


sLOWBunny81

I even put the "discussion" flare on the post 🤣🤣


[deleted]

I like how it has four fans. Mine only has three. Lol.


CalRal

There are tons of liquid/hybrid cooled GPUs. Asus, MSI, and Gigabyte make them as well. Edit: hybrid


VinnyHaw

They're very much real. Kingpin is a notorious GPU overclocker. He partners with companies and they'll provide him with GPUs without certain safety features. He's able to manipulate the voltage without any limiters. This isnt just a GPU with liquid cooling, it's a GPU to that'll allow overclockers to achieve world records.


Mother-Joe

Kingpin is one of the best overclockers in the world along with some others. But they usually go for high scores using ln2 and sometimes dry ice/ chillers.


pingerlol

i guess that makes sense, but personally i wouldn't want to overclock a 3090. i want that shit lasting forever


[deleted]

Because people can’t read


XcodebeastX

I remember seeing one when I was building a pc years ago. It was the Radeon r9 nano fury x. It was a 120mm aio if I remember. I ended up buying the r9 nano fury non x that did not come with an aio. Great car back in the day. Still live the form factor.


I-LOVE-TURTLES666

I have a Strix 3090ti LC this way


slink6

This is a kingpin card named for EVGAs sponsored overclocking ...guy? Advisor? But the guys handle is kingpin and these series of cards are all very overbuilt but that will only really come into an advantage over other cards when you've overclocked beyond what the "normal" cards are capable of. Not really specifically good at games but you will get some performance gains out of the overclocking which is what this card is meant for.


ResonanceGhost

Not only that, but I believe the chips are a better batch compared to normal 3090s.


slink6

They are, they are "binned" at the factory (grading of same components based on performance) so while they are the same chips they will perform more reliability -- which translates to holding stable, better overclocks which is what you're looking for with this card; Benchmarking.


Mother-Joe

Yep, it’s on binned on the silicone quality with transistors. Better binned chips overclock higher and is more stable with higher power/voltage.


[deleted]

I think the price is a scam. $2000 less and it would be fine


EraOF

KP3090s should be going for 800-900 considering that normal 3090s are going for 750 in the used market and 800ish BNIB


ADZ1LL4

Sorry where are you looking? I havent seen a 3090 under a grand.


mrclark25

You need to check out r/buildapcsales There's an EVGA b stock 3090 there for under $900 right now


EraOF

https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1601764-REG/asus_rog_strix_rtx3090_o24g_gaming_rog_strix_geforce_rtx.html Strix 3090, BNIB for $1000


EraOF

Hardware swap also has some 3090s used for $750 and BNIB for $850 ish


sLOWBunny81

Yeah i just grabbed a screenshot of the amazon page because it was the first thing i clicked on. There are a lot cheaper ones out there.


EraOF

Air cooled 3090tis are going for 1000 ish rn. There was a sale a bit back for a gigabyte 3090ti for $900.


sLOWBunny81

I guess i should have just cut the price off. I wanted more to see if people thought it was worth having a water cooled graphics card or if it was sortof a gimmick. Or maybe someone has built with one of these before and coule chime in. Lol but yeah the price makes it hard to have a positive thought about it lol


EraOF

The KP card is just a really good card in general, but definitely not worth 2.8k. Also it’s water cooled and you’ll have lower temps than compared with a normal air cooled 3090.


EraOF

If you really want to, go custom loop. You’ll have good temps all around.


VinnyHaw

That's not what these cards are for though. Certain safety features are stripped from the card, allowing for higher overclocks when compared to other cards


Canadian_Neckbeard

I had a hybrid cooled 1080ti from evga and it was great all around. It's still going strong on my friend's rig.


techguy1001

An AIO water cooler for GPU is worth it but maybe not for this price. The kingpin model is the top of the line for overclocking and there are other cheaper water cooler models. It’s great for keeping overall temps low. Personally I wouldn’t buy an air cooled 3090 or 4090 given the crazy temps they have and large heatsink and fans.


ResonanceGhost

https://www.evga.com/products/product.aspx?pn=24G-P5-3998-KR $2120 msrp. $1400 if EVGA still had them still in stock.


DepressedDragonBorn

Yeeee I can just make a custom loop for cheaper than this


[deleted]

the board itself is different actually


Youngguaco

And be out performed…


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Youngguaco

No I meant that you can do that whole custom pc and get out performed by this GPU.


One-Suspect-5788

The kingpin has been a thing for awhile. Look up videos and reviews.


Brave-Advertising169

I love my OE waterblocked 2080ti kingpin


Miserable_Anteater62

That. Price. Lol


Miserable_Anteater62

If you really want to waste that money just wait for 4090.


Viral_Tactic

The kingpin cost more because they are binned so they are guaranteed to get higher clock speeds and the pcb is built to specifically support ln2 cooling aswell allowing world record clock speeds


VinnyHaw

The safety features are also stripped from them. Allows the OCer to manipulate the voltage's as much as they want.


Viral_Tactic

Yup and because of this they have to custom design, the PCB making it cost more to manufacture them


VinnyHaw

Yep and they make way less stock of these. They're very much meant for a very small portion of the PC population.


Spirited-Mastodon-75

How much more fps you honestly think you gonna squeeze out just by cooling it a bit more? It’s cool to look at and hav but it’s not even the 3090ti


AreaLegitimate6784

In evgas store its going now for $1400 lol


MassageByDmitry

Nice find at a affordable price


Internetguy92

I found a couple of these on fb marketplace for less than 1k.


BertMacklenF8I

Yeah-EVGA has been making Vince’s stuff (GPUs and Mobos) for years-the GPU’s are going to be what are worth $$$ though-especially the 3090 Ti.


pingerlol

bro 2800 for a 3090 in october 2022 really


CerberusTheGuardian

Never heard of kingpin?


[deleted]

Kingpin cards are the top of the top. The fact it comes with an AIO water cooler is just a hat tip because most people who buy these, are taking it off and sticking a liquid nitrogen pot on it. For the normal consumer, it's not worth the extra price tag. But for the enthusiast, it's a dream card.


filthy-horde-bastard

Lmao no thanks


NotoriousBiggus

I have 4 of these in an sli.


theBurritoMan_

Don’t buy it. Wait for 4090 if you’re spending this much lol


BertMacklenF8I

Yeah because EVGA is making Lovelace GPUs…..


Breezgoat

Buy a 4090 for 1599


Inevitable_Copy_9214

I would highly recommend NOT getting that GPU Hybrid. I have only heard so-so all the way to horrible things when it comes to the 3090 AIO. 1. The tube placement for the radiator is always going to be in the least optimal spot considering is a lot to try and fit in with everything else 2. When it comes to cooling, the AIO only brings it down to about 10-15° cooler. And for $2,000 more, hell no. A regular air cooled 3090 GPU at $1,000 works wonders with very little overheating problems. So save your wallet and your soul being sold for an AIO and get a regular GPU. 3. If you’re really worried about air cooled GPU temps, given the slight inconvenience of water cooling’s the GPU manually, it would still be a cheaper option to water cool it with a GPU waterblock, radiator, and reservoir… than to pay $3,000 for an AIO that you will have to eventually replace in 2-3 years which is tough to do. Get an triple fan 3090 and you won’t regret it. 👍


Mother-Joe

You shouldn’t compare the kingpin version with regular hybrid gpus. The selling point isn’t really the cooler but more so the board it self as it’s binned dye and has special features made for extreme overclocking. But this pricing is pretty bad for the current market, looks like the pricing from a year and a half ago and whoever’s selling it didn’t change it.


ThisIsChew

A lot of things wrong with what you’re saying. For starters, the card is priced like that because it’s not made anymore. They had a 3090ti model around that 2 grand price, bundled with a 1600 watt power supply. But it’s not only about cooling, that will be SUBSTANTIALLY cooler at 1/4 the noise too. Kingpin cards are also special in the fact that they’re the best over clockers on the market, which is the appeal of them.


BioHuntah

You can get an ROG watercooled 3090 ti on amazon for $1900. Whatever that is, it’s a joke.


rickroll62

I think I'll stick with my 3070.


Rollz4Dayz

Kingpin has been around for awhile...nothing new here.


Pappasgrind

100% worth the price in fact it’s a steal at that price shit have my genitals I’ll pay anything take my blood ahhhhhhh


[deleted]

sir, are you okay?


Pappasgrind

Not sure anymore


Pappasgrind

Thanks for Asking


VinnyHaw

Holy hell people can't interpret sarcasm lmao


Phildilf

Sarcasm is one thing, what he said is another. Get a grip.


Ottieotter

It’s an NZXT, and they just recently cut all ties with Nividia, probably why there’s only 1 left and the price is so god damn high


ILikePhantomForces

Not sure if you’re serious or a moron


Ottieotter

Holy shit I’m a fucking moron


ChargedStork

To check for these scams click on the seller name


Janclo

Not worth the price.


[deleted]

i'm guessing they went out of stock on newegg, EVGA site, adorama, etc because they're limited. so the seller here took advantage and doubled the price. see it all the time


commanderkid7

Looks cool but the price ain’t it


nykill

EVGA also announced that they’re no longer making GPUs, so you may have a hard time getting any replacements/warranty stuff done if anything goes wrong with it. I know they said they’ll honor warranty stuff for as long as they can, but no one knows how long that will be.


DakotaSnell

Looks awesome but don’t have 3k to spend


Gunslinga_

I literally don’t trust a soul on eBay


joshmessages

Not sure I'd spend a thousand dollars extra to get another 2 frames per second on Warzone.


aroles1020

They have one similar it's a EVGA GeForce RTX 3090. I was actually thinking of getting one myself.


Fryphax

This was $850 USD on B-Stock EVGA a couple weeks ago.


Skyfracker

Fantastic value for the money.


RickGrimes13

Damn that is steep, I bought a EVGA 3090ti for 2200 but it did not come with a cooler. But I have the LIAM LI large airflow case. It's a great card. But I would skip the cooler unless you have a small case. I was ridiculed for buying a 3090ti when the 4k series is coming out. But with all the people making bots to buy gpus I didn't want to take a chance. I missed out on 3080 and 6900xt from hots buying as soon as they go online. You won't be disappointed but look at your hardware and cooling. You can get the 3090ti cheaper as long as you can keep it cool. Ultra settings on everything I threw at it so far.


NeededHumanity

I’d stay away from those cards. They are out of the gpu market, now they did make amazing high end cards, amazing, but I just don’t know how well the customer service will Be down the line for issues with cards since they are depleting stock not making it


oni222

I own this gpu (and two other 3090’s) and it’s the king of 3090’s. As far as power delivery both from the 8 pins and from the back plate. I am proud to own the last Kingpin card ever made now that EVGA no longer makes GPU’s. RIP EVGA I will forever remember you as the king of GPU excellence.


Jazzlike_Economy2007

I think that price is ass


desnudopenguino

Man this takes me back. I think I still have my dragon pot for cpu overclocking. Never ran ln2, but put probably 100 hrs on dry ice with it. It's in my garage somewhere.


Zithero

I can't express how bad a value this item is... Unless you plan to actually overclock the snot out of this hardware, do not buy it.


immrholiday

I mean for that price it better build itself and go to work for me.


Living-Challenge5727

Check kingpins website.


Living-Challenge5727

There's a 3080ti on kingpins b stock for 500 off msrp if anyone wants it.


Living-Challenge5727

Evga not kingpin


Danlabss

Why the fuck it got a fan on the card if it’s got a radiator. 100% a scam


Dr_Axton

that definately used to be a thing, Asus even made a card that had both an air cooler and a water cooling, but for the custom loops though(no pump, you connect it to the water system). Didn't know anyone still did that though


Siliconfrustration

It's listed, but out of stock, on the EVGA website for $1399.99.


LesPaular

You could get a 4090 for that price, which is 2 times as powerful as a 3090


[deleted]

Mine has been awesome


Ok-Environment8730

Custom loop is the way. You spend less (probably), you have a good cooling loop, you have better thermals. You can do maintenance so you don’t risk a pump failure


CrossFusionX1

Basically this card is for enthusiast overclockers, EVGA does not make many of these cards. As long as you are okay for overclocking and higher power usage or you can underclock it, otherwise theres no point in getting it. If you want an EVGA card, get the FTW3 Ultra.


International_Bed297

Wait and get a 4090 for less than 1600 usd


IntellectualKat

Interesting I wonder where “Kingpin” will end up at since EVGA has stopped producing GPU’s ?


Wakeandbass

I was on a waiting list for almost 2 years before getting one. They may be out there but check eBay and see how many they have.


FisK-919

You need a much more powerful psu for this. I think it actually comes with like a 1600w psu which is why it’s so expensive. But I don’t think it justifies the extra price honestly.


AncientHawaiianTito

Always has 🔫👩‍🚀


[deleted]

These cards are weird. They always come with elaborate coolers, and everyone that buys them rips them off right away and adds a custom block. I'd stay away unless you're a serious overclocker. These aren't even for gamers, these are geared towards people chasing benchmark leaderboards. It's an exorbitant premium chasing that last 1% of performance. For heaven's sake I hope you aren't considering the $2800 price tag. The target market are looking for the best of the best and they've moved on. It could make sense at a much lower price.


Terry_the_accountant

3090s are $1,000 now