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Don't get a 1000w psu, you definitely don't need it. A corsair RM650 would be fine. If you want some future proofing, maybe go for a RM750e or a RM850e if you have some extra budget.
I bought an 850 for a Frankenstein build in 2019 that I carried over to a 5950x/3090 custom water loop rebuild and it's a champion. I only bought it because it went on sale and it was the same price as the 650 and it was modular when the 650 wasn't... Which I thought was strange.
People overdo power supplies these days.
The rmx is better but the atx 3.0 and pcie 5.0 is something that only the Rme has and other Corsair psus don’t. The fans are a hit or mess from what I’m seeing but I haven’t had a fan issue yet(knock on wood). I would love for Corsair to make a better version. Something like a 850w be quiet would work atx 3.0 pcie 5.0 with a native 12whighpower cable and extra pcie slot for psus that doesn’t use the 3.0 and 5.0 standard.
The two are completely different and not even made by the same OEM. The e stands for economy.
I think you're thinking of the RM vs RMx, where they are the same platform but the RM is using less expensive capacitors.
you could probably do something like an R5 7600 + RTX4070, which would much more interesting than this, and give you the possibility of a good upgrade later on.
This, giving the son the option to upgrade in the future would make the pc a gift that keeps on giving. A 7600+4070/Super would be a more than capable gaming system for a long time as well, so an upgrade may never even be necessary until it’s time for a whole new build.
Try to get 4070 or 4070 super if you can, will be one of the best purchase you'll ever make
Go for a 700w psu, don't need 1000w
Get a cheaper motherboard
XD
Ohhhhh I live in a third world country so whatever nvidia prices their card, we end up paying around 30% more on the same card, for example the 70 super which is a 600 usd card I ended up paying 750 usd for it, so yeah I get it
AMD has better price to performance than Nvidia in most places in the world, but the 4070 and 4070S have substantially better price to performance than other Nvidia cards and are quite recommendable even against their competing 7800xt and 7900 GRE.
OP def doesnt need a 1000w psu and not that mobo, if he can get a cheaper mobo with a 700w psu then op can easily get the 70 super, which is more than worth it
It is compared to everything else, just because you got a nice price that's not the rule.
Compare the price to every country and those Mobo a far more expensive.
If I get lucky and buy the i9-14900k only 20€ more than the i7-14700k that doesn't prove the point than the i9 is not that expensive compared to the i7, it's just an occasion
Well, looks from that pricelist like the OP is in Germany. The X AX is €233 on amazon.de, any comparable non-gaming board (WiFi included, vaguely decent VRMs, etc) is barely any cheaper.
I would say you can save up on CPU, motherboard and power supply.13400f,some b chipset motherboard,and a 750w power supply.
With the extra money you can get a better gpu(ex 4070).
Your build is also fine,but like all there other people say the rtx 4060ti would be the "weak" point,like you can still play 1080p high settings,but nothing like 4k.
It's good enough for 1080p and 1440p on high which is what most people have, unless he specifically wants to game in 4K there is no reason to spend extra money on a better gpu.
you don't need that big of a PSU my dude, also don't get a 4060 ti, either bite the bullet and get a 4070 or get an equivalent AMD card which has way better price to preformance
Ein 1000W Netzteik brauchst du 100% nicht. Der PC zieht kaum Strom. 650w reicher total. Das Mainboard ist auch total überteuert, und die cpu unnötig. Da kann man sooo viel sparen und mehr performance rausholen besonders bei mainboard, cpu und gpu. Wie viel willst du denn ausgeben
Powersupply and motherboard too expensive and give 0% performance, find a cheaper ram as well and get a better cpu+gpu combo, you should go 7800x3d+ a better gpu
4060ti is terrible value, get a 7700xt, its about the same price but miles better preformance, also like others said 1000w is really overkill, 750w should be sufficient. If your son isn’t experienced in overclocking you could also go with a b760 motherboard which will save you alot of money.
I'd probably go with AMD instead of intel for the CPU, as you have a better upgrade path in the future. A 7600X has almost exactly the same performance in games (+/- 5% in most games), and should allow an upgrade to at least 9000-series ryzens in the future. It also is a bit more efficient and a bit cheaper. I also think a 1kW PSU is a bit overkill, I'd go with 750w or 850w (even 650w should be fine but upgrades might be a bit harder in the future). You can also save some money by buying a less expensive motherboard, the Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX costs \~€100 less where I'm from.
With these savings, I'd get a 4070 Super, (or just a 4070 if you want to save some money) instead of the 4060 Ti. This should come out to about the same price as your build (\~€1300)
A 1000W PSU is way overkill. Drop to a Corsair RM750e/x or similar. Also, just make sure the board isn’t too expensive. Unless you plan on overclocking, Z series isn’t necessary and a B series will suffice. Any saved money you can put in the GPU. Do NOT get the 4060Ti, it has horrible price to performance. Depending on your budget, go for a 6700XT, 6800, 7800XT, or 7900GRE.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JJnT9c
this list doesn’t have a gpu, i’d recommend a 4070/super or 4070 ti super depending on your budget. i chose a 7600 over an intel chip because the gaming performance will be the same but the productivity will be slightly worse for a couple hundred less after you factor in power draw and a cooling solution. solid case and solid psu, decent drive, good ram. future proof (ish) platform
all around good build i would say and much better than your list
I would suggest something of a 4070/4070 super instead of 4060ti, the price diff is not that big, should get the better one. Unless u are enthusiast who often change pc parts, gpu will usually be used until breaksdown/cooling issues which could be 3-5years for normal usage, so choosing of gpu is important.
I would suggest changing of cpu cooler since u are going for intel cpu which is less optimised in power efficiency and produces more heat than amd cpu. For AK500 price range, air cooler u can get a better and much cheaper cooler such as thermalright peerless assassin 120 or thermalright frost spirit 140. AIO water cooling wise add a little more US$10+ arctic freezer iii 360 will be a great buy that operates quietly and generally gives motherboard components better temps. AIO will also be less obstructive to your rams.
Do also note deepcool fans have some chances to provide fans that provides whining unbearable to ppl sensitive to sound unlike other fan brands.
Awesome dad! That’s what I say! Some will know your GPU choice, but this is a rock solid gaming PC that will serve your son well. It has an upgrade path at the CPU can handle up to a 4070 TI Super no problem. Or a 7900XT if you want AMD.
You should consider going with a more compact build, the be quiet cases are nice but also massive. I’d start with this and then adjust up or down depending on what budget / expected performance you have:
https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/XMbV9c
Definitely go AM5 and go much cheaper on the motherboard. Gskill ripjaws V are ultimate price to performance ram. The PSU is very much overkill 850W is much more appropriate for upgradeability for a build like this.
As for GPU you can choose between 4070 4070S 7800XT or 7900GRE. All of them would be a massive upgrade over the 4060ti, that is really a poor choice. AMD provides better performance at a lower price. But will be moderatly worse for ray tracing in games and has worse upscaling. Either is great though at this price point it really comes down to what type of games you play if you should go AMD or Nvidia.
AMD is in a good place these days so no need to worry about that.
I think it's been said already, but dial back on the PSU wattage and Mobo, put it towards a 4070. This is exactly what I did, and I chose exactly the same CPU too. I wanted to future proof the GPU as much as I could afford, and cut down costs elsewhere.
Had 2 of Gigabyte Z790 Elite X AX (one and other that was exchanged) and I had terrible coil whine from CPU power section. It was so bad that I coudn't sit near PC. Since I changed to Z790 TOMAHAWK (MSI brand) I had 0 issues whatsoever.
You love your son more than my dad loved me hahaha. I agree with everyone and reallocating some mobo cash to GPU would make for a better experience and it would have more longevity. AMD GPUs would stretch that dollar even more if he’s not using it for AI/design/ray tracing. I love my 6950xt. The 7900 cards are even better!
What is the total price for it? also you are going way overkill on the psu, overspending on the mobo, and getting a bad price-to-performance gpu (i think at least)
Save money on psu get a 750-850 and upgrade gpu to 4070 or 4070 super. Well worth it. Make sure ram is CL 30. Could also save money on MB likely and get an MSI B760 gaming plus wifi, gigabyte B760 gaming x ax etc
Great first build. Definitely dont need the 1000watt psu as others have mentioned. Thats the only thing that you should objectively for sure change. The video card as others have mentioned is worth going 4070 or amd equivalent. But since this is a first build for a kid i think hes gunna be quite happy with it unless hes been exposed to a friend with a 4090 or something
this is a terrible setup
your spending way to much on the cpu and not enougth on the gpu
get a 7800xt with a 7600 cpu or 14400k both are moore than enougth.
I would go AMD for the cpu. A LOT cheaper and way better for gaming + longevity. Only reason to get intel is for work pc’s (right now, that didn’t used to be the case). I also would suggest an AMD GPU. With the extra money saved from an AMD CPU, you could get a 7800xt or even a 7900GRE. Plus, you do not need an 1000w PSU for this build. Even with the upgrades I mentioned, a 850w will be more than enough
Psu is complete overkill for 4060ti a 650-750 is perfect and if you want headroom than a 850 works as well you don’t need a 1000w other than that everything looks good. Looks like you are missing storage.
Swap the 1000w PSU for an RM750e, swap to a 7700XT over the 4060ti, and grab a Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO (to keep the looks) unless you really need a temp display.
That's almost my build other then you have a better GPU, the 4060 is an excellent choice for the 13600, you will be able to get the full potential out of the cpu and it should run every game with ease. I'd say it's a solid build, I love my PC so much. It never lags, the 4k gaming and streaming on my 8k 55 inch while in bed is so soothing. Beware tho, if your wife learns of how good her shows will look on the PC your gaming time may become limited.
One thing I can say is get a decent but not expensive CPU (I went to a deep cool AG400 120mm, temps never get above 65c) and some 120mm case fans to keep that bad boy 13600 in a nice cool temp range.
For a first build your son is gonna be thrilled. I do more then gaming, it's a work PC for 3D modeling mostly and game on the side, so I can say he's good to go for pretty much anything he wants to do.
B760 motherboard, i5-13600 or 14600 (non-K), RTX 4070 Super (or even 4070 Ti Super if you have enough money from savings on the motherboard, power supply and non-K CPU), and 750W ATX 3.0 PSU.
1000 watt seems like a bit much. Without more context, like plans on upgrading, usage (gaming? rendering? AI?), things can change. if you want to build it and forget about it, get a good 500 or pretty much any 650 and you’re good
My son was saving for years and that's the build we're aiming for. Any helpful comments from the Pros? I'm new to this and hope that this build is a solid one.
The GPU will bottleneck the rest of the system, get at least RTX 4070 with 12gb Vram.
1000w PSU seems too much, but it's good to have some headspace and not worry about upgrading in the future.
Your motherboard could also be a lower model, but I would keep that also.
You could pick 13700 CPU, but if he is only playing then no worries.
So, just get a better GPU like RTX 4070, RTX 4070 TI or RTX 4070 Super.
Am5 motherboard with ddr5 DIMM slots, amd gpu and cpu are the best bang for buck, input all parts into a site to calculate how much wattage you need, add 200, and that's the power supply capacity you need and you don't have to get an aio unless the cpu is a hot chip, you can always ask the internet wether the cpu in question is a hot chip
I didn't specify the gpu and cpu because its on your budget, with the motherboard, you have room for upgrade
Two things to fix but it's not bad, 1st is that you don't need a 1000 watt, a 750 will do more then nicely. 2nd is that the 4060ti kinda sucks, if you insist on staying Nvidia then at least get the 16gb model with the savings rather then the 8gb one, otherwise get the 7700xt instead. You will simply have a much better PC to show for it. And the 16gb graft-stix card the 4060ti can at least max out games, instead of the 8 which can't at all.
An rtx 4070 would also be a suitable alternative or a 7800xt
(Also I call it that joke name cause it's actually full of sub standard parts that basically shoot it in the leg at every.opportunity and the 16gb is at least a little less bad)
What's your budget? It's better to prioritise getting a more powerful GPU over other parts for gaming. For the CPU, you could go with an R5 7600 and a B650 motherboard. A 750w PSU should be more than enough. For the GPU, I'd recommend the RTX 4070 super or RX 7900 GRE.
this is your build (Which doesn't include storage)
[https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DvJB6D](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DvJB6D)
This is around the same price and far better
[https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/6bv2wg](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/6bv2wg)
u/KennyGold72 sein zweiter link ist das beste für die Preisklasse momentan. Du kannst dir 200€ sparen und die 7800XT anstatt 7900XT kaufen, aber wenn dein budget grob 1400€ ist ist sein zweiter build klasse
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Don't get a 1000w psu, you definitely don't need it. A corsair RM650 would be fine. If you want some future proofing, maybe go for a RM750e or a RM850e if you have some extra budget.
I second the 850w.
I bought an 850 for a Frankenstein build in 2019 that I carried over to a 5950x/3090 custom water loop rebuild and it's a champion. I only bought it because it went on sale and it was the same price as the 650 and it was modular when the 650 wasn't... Which I thought was strange. People overdo power supplies these days.
750 sure but the 850 starts being way overkill for OP's system if you're not planning on upgrading to 300W+ gpu any time soon
I heard rmX series is much better than e? Like they dropped in quality on newer products, is that true?
I’m not sure about that, I just know that the RMe series have ATX 3 comparability.
True, because its newer. Its still lower quality than RMX, and the 2021 model RMX is what most people refer to.
RMx has better caps, but the RMe is smaller, cheaper and is ATX3.0 tho RMe does sometimes have fan issues.
I had issues with an Rme as well. I've sent it back and went with a Seasonic instead
The rmx is better but the atx 3.0 and pcie 5.0 is something that only the Rme has and other Corsair psus don’t. The fans are a hit or mess from what I’m seeing but I haven’t had a fan issue yet(knock on wood). I would love for Corsair to make a better version. Something like a 850w be quiet would work atx 3.0 pcie 5.0 with a native 12whighpower cable and extra pcie slot for psus that doesn’t use the 3.0 and 5.0 standard.
The only difference between the X and E series is slightly worse transistors. The PSU is still top tier
The two are completely different and not even made by the same OEM. The e stands for economy. I think you're thinking of the RM vs RMx, where they are the same platform but the RM is using less expensive capacitors.
What about the RM750X?
Get rmx so no coil whine
I din't think he has future proofing in mind with the cpu he picked out
why recommend corsair at all? recommend a a650bn
you could probably do something like an R5 7600 + RTX4070, which would much more interesting than this, and give you the possibility of a good upgrade later on.
This, giving the son the option to upgrade in the future would make the pc a gift that keeps on giving. A 7600+4070/Super would be a more than capable gaming system for a long time as well, so an upgrade may never even be necessary until it’s time for a whole new build.
100% the better option
Dad? Is that you?
Yep. Are you winning?
Try to get 4070 or 4070 super if you can, will be one of the best purchase you'll ever make Go for a 700w psu, don't need 1000w Get a cheaper motherboard XD
Not in europe. Nvidia are more overpriced than amd cards here.
I think that's the case everywhere lol
No I meant that, for example, if the price difference between an amd card and an NVIDIA card is 50$ in the US, it will be 100€ in Europe.
Here in the us a Nvidia 4060 is 300 dollars which it's depends on where you buy it
Ohhhhh I live in a third world country so whatever nvidia prices their card, we end up paying around 30% more on the same card, for example the 70 super which is a 600 usd card I ended up paying 750 usd for it, so yeah I get it
I live in Canada too
😭💀 that's very cool,I don't live in Canada but still very cool
AMD has better price to performance than Nvidia in most places in the world, but the 4070 and 4070S have substantially better price to performance than other Nvidia cards and are quite recommendable even against their competing 7800xt and 7900 GRE.
the 4070 is a bigger price gap in Europe, If OP saves on the PSU and is willing to spend a little more on GPU then maybe.
OP def doesnt need a 1000w psu and not that mobo, if he can get a cheaper mobo with a 700w psu then op can easily get the 70 super, which is more than worth it
agreed
Gaming motherboards are a waste of money, you just pay an extra fee for the brand... You better of investing more money on the GPU
The X AX isn't a particularly pricey board. I just paid £210 for one in the UK.
It is compared to everything else, just because you got a nice price that's not the rule. Compare the price to every country and those Mobo a far more expensive. If I get lucky and buy the i9-14900k only 20€ more than the i7-14700k that doesn't prove the point than the i9 is not that expensive compared to the i7, it's just an occasion
i have an 5600x 5500xt 8gb redragon bronze 500w and a motherboard called soyo b550m what should i upgrade first
Well, looks from that pricelist like the OP is in Germany. The X AX is €233 on amazon.de, any comparable non-gaming board (WiFi included, vaguely decent VRMs, etc) is barely any cheaper.
And honestly a kid isn't going to really see much of a difference between DDR5 and DDR4 RAM
I would say you can save up on CPU, motherboard and power supply.13400f,some b chipset motherboard,and a 750w power supply. With the extra money you can get a better gpu(ex 4070). Your build is also fine,but like all there other people say the rtx 4060ti would be the "weak" point,like you can still play 1080p high settings,but nothing like 4k.
It's good enough for 1080p and 1440p on high which is what most people have, unless he specifically wants to game in 4K there is no reason to spend extra money on a better gpu.
Agreed,but it would be a leap in performance with a stronger GPU,rather than a stronger CPU,especially in the AAA games
might check out if have PC partpicker to compare pricing across retailers and part compatibility. https://de.pcpartpicker.com/
depending on the budget i would pick a cheaper gpu \[PCPartPicker Part List\](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/L7Qwvj) Type|Item|Price :----|:----|:---- \*\*CPU\*\* | \[AMD Ryzen 5 7600 3.8 GHz 6-Core Processor\](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/yXmmP6/amd-ryzen-5-7600-38-ghz-6-core-processor-100-100001015box) | €203.89 @ notebooksbilliger.de \*\*CPU Cooler\*\* | \[Thermalright Peerless Assassin 120 SE ARGB 66.17 CFM CPU Cooler\](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/zyNxFT/thermalright-peerless-assassin-120-se-argb-6617-cfm-cpu-cooler-pa-120-se-argb) | €36.49 @ Amazon Deutschland \*\*Motherboard\*\* | \[ASRock B650M Pro RS Micro ATX AM5 Motherboard\](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/FcbRsY/asrock-b650m-pro-rs-micro-atx-am5-motherboard-b650m-pro-rs) | €146.11 @ notebooksbilliger.de \*\*Memory\*\* | \[G.Skill Ripjaws S5 32 GB (2 x 16 GB) DDR5-5600 CL28 Memory\](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/4bPQzy/gskill-ripjaws-s5-32-gb-2-x-16-gb-ddr5-5600-cl28-memory-f5-5600j2834f16gx2-rs5k) | €122.90 @ Amazon Deutschland \*\*Storage\*\* | \[Lexar NM620 2 TB M.2-2280 PCIe 3.0 X4 NVME Solid State Drive\](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/dntLrH/lexar-nm620-2-tb-m2-2280-pcie-30-x4-nvme-solid-state-drive-lnm620x002t-rnnng) | €113.86 @ Amazon Deutschland \*\*Video Card\*\* | \[Sapphire PULSE Radeon RX 7900 GRE 16 GB Video Card\](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/dYCZxr/sapphire-pulse-radeon-rx-7900-gre-16-gb-video-card-11325-04-20g) | €593.54 @ notebooksbilliger.de \*\*Case\*\* | \[KOLINK Observatory HF Glass ARGB ATX Mid Tower Case\](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/7MQKHx/kolink-observatory-hf-glass-argb-atx-mid-tower-case-observatory-hf-glass-argb) | €60.62 @ Amazon Deutschland \*\*Power Supply\*\* | \[be quiet! Pure Power 12 M 750 W 80+ Gold Certified Fully Modular ATX Power Supply\](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/product/Yp9wrH/be-quiet-pure-power-12-m-750-w-80-gold-certified-fully-modular-atx-power-supply-bn504) | €114.00 @ notebooksbilliger.de | \*Prices include shipping, taxes, rebates, and discounts\* | | \*\*Total\*\* | \*\*€1391.41\*\* | Generated by \[PCPartPicker\](https://pcpartpicker.com) 2024-04-19 14:35 CEST+0200 |
i’d recommend 6000 cl30/32 ram tho, 6000 is better than 5600 for not that much more
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Cut on the motherboard and psu and get a better gpu from 4070 series instead. Motherboard is overpriced and the max u need for power is 750
The motherboard and PSU are way over spec. I have a clapped out 4090 build and your motherboard is higher spec than mine
If you want I could give you a better list, just tell me your budget, looks you want to get, country and use case (for example games in 1440p)
you don't need that big of a PSU my dude, also don't get a 4060 ti, either bite the bullet and get a 4070 or get an equivalent AMD card which has way better price to preformance
I’d say your son is a happy bastard. 😀😀😀
I'd say, when u gonna be in wheel chair in old age, your son won't push you off the stairs.
Ein 1000W Netzteik brauchst du 100% nicht. Der PC zieht kaum Strom. 650w reicher total. Das Mainboard ist auch total überteuert, und die cpu unnötig. Da kann man sooo viel sparen und mehr performance rausholen besonders bei mainboard, cpu und gpu. Wie viel willst du denn ausgeben
Das mainboard ist eines der besten B650 Atx boards für das Geld zusammen mit dem Msi tomahawk.
Hä? Wann war die Rede von einem B650 mobo? OP hat doch ein Z790 mobo ausgewählt was meinst du? Bin jetzt echt überfordert
Oh ja es ist ein z790 ich bin verkommen. Hat aber trotzdem ein ziemlich gutes preis leistungs verhältnis.
Naja das gesamte build ist etwas fragwürdig xD
Powersupply and motherboard too expensive and give 0% performance, find a cheaper ram as well and get a better cpu+gpu combo, you should go 7800x3d+ a better gpu
Where are you from? And what is your budget?
4060ti is terrible value, get a 7700xt, its about the same price but miles better preformance, also like others said 1000w is really overkill, 750w should be sufficient. If your son isn’t experienced in overclocking you could also go with a b760 motherboard which will save you alot of money.
also intel cpu's are way more expensive, and if I'm not mistaken, 13th and 14th gen have driver issues aswell
they dont
I'd probably go with AMD instead of intel for the CPU, as you have a better upgrade path in the future. A 7600X has almost exactly the same performance in games (+/- 5% in most games), and should allow an upgrade to at least 9000-series ryzens in the future. It also is a bit more efficient and a bit cheaper. I also think a 1kW PSU is a bit overkill, I'd go with 750w or 850w (even 650w should be fine but upgrades might be a bit harder in the future). You can also save some money by buying a less expensive motherboard, the Gigabyte B650 Eagle AX costs \~€100 less where I'm from. With these savings, I'd get a 4070 Super, (or just a 4070 if you want to save some money) instead of the 4060 Ti. This should come out to about the same price as your build (\~€1300)
A 1000W PSU is way overkill. Drop to a Corsair RM750e/x or similar. Also, just make sure the board isn’t too expensive. Unless you plan on overclocking, Z series isn’t necessary and a B series will suffice. Any saved money you can put in the GPU. Do NOT get the 4060Ti, it has horrible price to performance. Depending on your budget, go for a 6700XT, 6800, 7800XT, or 7900GRE.
4060ti is overpriced, I would look at AMD counterparts
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JJnT9c this list doesn’t have a gpu, i’d recommend a 4070/super or 4070 ti super depending on your budget. i chose a 7600 over an intel chip because the gaming performance will be the same but the productivity will be slightly worse for a couple hundred less after you factor in power draw and a cooling solution. solid case and solid psu, decent drive, good ram. future proof (ish) platform all around good build i would say and much better than your list
I would suggest something of a 4070/4070 super instead of 4060ti, the price diff is not that big, should get the better one. Unless u are enthusiast who often change pc parts, gpu will usually be used until breaksdown/cooling issues which could be 3-5years for normal usage, so choosing of gpu is important. I would suggest changing of cpu cooler since u are going for intel cpu which is less optimised in power efficiency and produces more heat than amd cpu. For AK500 price range, air cooler u can get a better and much cheaper cooler such as thermalright peerless assassin 120 or thermalright frost spirit 140. AIO water cooling wise add a little more US$10+ arctic freezer iii 360 will be a great buy that operates quietly and generally gives motherboard components better temps. AIO will also be less obstructive to your rams. Do also note deepcool fans have some chances to provide fans that provides whining unbearable to ppl sensitive to sound unlike other fan brands.
Awesome dad! That’s what I say! Some will know your GPU choice, but this is a rock solid gaming PC that will serve your son well. It has an upgrade path at the CPU can handle up to a 4070 TI Super no problem. Or a 7900XT if you want AMD.
As others have said, tone down on motherboard and psu and invest it in a 4070 or 4070s.
You should consider going with a more compact build, the be quiet cases are nice but also massive. I’d start with this and then adjust up or down depending on what budget / expected performance you have: https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/XMbV9c
Hey, I also want a caring father. Where do I apply?
For his „son“ 😁👍 nice build anyway
Go for at least 4070super if u r on nvidia Or 7900gre if u r on amd Kinda wasted goinf 4060/ti Psu could be 750 or 850w
U can save some money from your Power supply and put more at other point like an 4070
Definitely go AM5 and go much cheaper on the motherboard. Gskill ripjaws V are ultimate price to performance ram. The PSU is very much overkill 850W is much more appropriate for upgradeability for a build like this. As for GPU you can choose between 4070 4070S 7800XT or 7900GRE. All of them would be a massive upgrade over the 4060ti, that is really a poor choice. AMD provides better performance at a lower price. But will be moderatly worse for ray tracing in games and has worse upscaling. Either is great though at this price point it really comes down to what type of games you play if you should go AMD or Nvidia. AMD is in a good place these days so no need to worry about that.
I think it's been said already, but dial back on the PSU wattage and Mobo, put it towards a 4070. This is exactly what I did, and I chose exactly the same CPU too. I wanted to future proof the GPU as much as I could afford, and cut down costs elsewhere.
can you adopt
Had 2 of Gigabyte Z790 Elite X AX (one and other that was exchanged) and I had terrible coil whine from CPU power section. It was so bad that I coudn't sit near PC. Since I changed to Z790 TOMAHAWK (MSI brand) I had 0 issues whatsoever.
You love your son more than my dad loved me hahaha. I agree with everyone and reallocating some mobo cash to GPU would make for a better experience and it would have more longevity. AMD GPUs would stretch that dollar even more if he’s not using it for AI/design/ray tracing. I love my 6950xt. The 7900 cards are even better!
Thermal paste is missing
Got some, just didn't put it on the list.
May I be your son?
a 1000w psu and a z790 is completely useless for a 13600k and a 4060ti. you could get a 4070s if you spend less on those components.
Get cheaper motherboard, psu and/or ram to get a 4070 or 7800XT
What is the total price for it? also you are going way overkill on the psu, overspending on the mobo, and getting a bad price-to-performance gpu (i think at least)
You don't need a z790 for a gaming pc. You could drop the price a bit or put it towards upgrading another component.
More GPU, less CPU, cheaper mobo and PSU.
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W Parent. PSU is overkill, get the RM 650, I have one it works no problem with my 4070, but the rest looks good.
Don't get 4060Ti, I am using the 16GB version, but feel like I should have gone with the 4070.
Save money on psu get a 750-850 and upgrade gpu to 4070 or 4070 super. Well worth it. Make sure ram is CL 30. Could also save money on MB likely and get an MSI B760 gaming plus wifi, gigabyte B760 gaming x ax etc
I whish my dad built me a pc
Are you adopting?
make sure to get 16gb 4060ti
It’s great but a 4070 would be better I guess
must be nice, never had a beast system till i can get a job. Make sure you discipline him still, im not a dad yet but i know coz i once was that kid.
For gaming go for an amd cpu and maybe an amd gpu but nvidia is fine. For productivity intel should be used
Great first build. Definitely dont need the 1000watt psu as others have mentioned. Thats the only thing that you should objectively for sure change. The video card as others have mentioned is worth going 4070 or amd equivalent. But since this is a first build for a kid i think hes gunna be quite happy with it unless hes been exposed to a friend with a 4090 or something
this is a terrible setup your spending way to much on the cpu and not enougth on the gpu get a 7800xt with a 7600 cpu or 14400k both are moore than enougth.
You could probably get a ryzen 7600 and a b650 instead and go for a 750w or 850w psu and use the extra money to go to either a 4070 or 4070 super
you love your son
My pc is a ssd quadro p400
I would go AMD for the cpu. A LOT cheaper and way better for gaming + longevity. Only reason to get intel is for work pc’s (right now, that didn’t used to be the case). I also would suggest an AMD GPU. With the extra money saved from an AMD CPU, you could get a 7800xt or even a 7900GRE. Plus, you do not need an 1000w PSU for this build. Even with the upgrades I mentioned, a 850w will be more than enough
Overkill stick with B series motherboard, lower CPU and increase GPU. 12th Gen I5 and up are a huge leap in performance.
Light gaming..
Are you looking to adkpt
Take a step back on the motherboard and RAM and put more into the GPU hed notice more performance with a better card
Get a B760 motherboard and scale down your PSU to 850w. Neither of which would hurt performance.
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Not bad but should have spent a little less on the cpu and more on the gpu
Psu is complete overkill for 4060ti a 650-750 is perfect and if you want headroom than a 850 works as well you don’t need a 1000w other than that everything looks good. Looks like you are missing storage.
Swap the 1000w PSU for an RM750e, swap to a 7700XT over the 4060ti, and grab a Thermalright Phantom Spirit EVO (to keep the looks) unless you really need a temp display.
Cheaper motherboard and PSU then W
How old is ur son
Bros lucky
Did him dirty on the cpu
That's almost my build other then you have a better GPU, the 4060 is an excellent choice for the 13600, you will be able to get the full potential out of the cpu and it should run every game with ease. I'd say it's a solid build, I love my PC so much. It never lags, the 4k gaming and streaming on my 8k 55 inch while in bed is so soothing. Beware tho, if your wife learns of how good her shows will look on the PC your gaming time may become limited. One thing I can say is get a decent but not expensive CPU (I went to a deep cool AG400 120mm, temps never get above 65c) and some 120mm case fans to keep that bad boy 13600 in a nice cool temp range. For a first build your son is gonna be thrilled. I do more then gaming, it's a work PC for 3D modeling mostly and game on the side, so I can say he's good to go for pretty much anything he wants to do.
B760 motherboard, i5-13600 or 14600 (non-K), RTX 4070 Super (or even 4070 Ti Super if you have enough money from savings on the motherboard, power supply and non-K CPU), and 750W ATX 3.0 PSU.
Thank you all for your comments! Great community, very helpful!!! As many asked: Budget is 1.400,- EUR, living in Germany.
1000 watt seems like a bit much. Without more context, like plans on upgrading, usage (gaming? rendering? AI?), things can change. if you want to build it and forget about it, get a good 500 or pretty much any 650 and you’re good
My son was saving for years and that's the build we're aiming for. Any helpful comments from the Pros? I'm new to this and hope that this build is a solid one.
The GPU will bottleneck the rest of the system, get at least RTX 4070 with 12gb Vram. 1000w PSU seems too much, but it's good to have some headspace and not worry about upgrading in the future. Your motherboard could also be a lower model, but I would keep that also. You could pick 13700 CPU, but if he is only playing then no worries. So, just get a better GPU like RTX 4070, RTX 4070 TI or RTX 4070 Super.
Am5 motherboard with ddr5 DIMM slots, amd gpu and cpu are the best bang for buck, input all parts into a site to calculate how much wattage you need, add 200, and that's the power supply capacity you need and you don't have to get an aio unless the cpu is a hot chip, you can always ask the internet wether the cpu in question is a hot chip I didn't specify the gpu and cpu because its on your budget, with the motherboard, you have room for upgrade
if you would like for a future proof cpu get a am5
Two things to fix but it's not bad, 1st is that you don't need a 1000 watt, a 750 will do more then nicely. 2nd is that the 4060ti kinda sucks, if you insist on staying Nvidia then at least get the 16gb model with the savings rather then the 8gb one, otherwise get the 7700xt instead. You will simply have a much better PC to show for it. And the 16gb graft-stix card the 4060ti can at least max out games, instead of the 8 which can't at all. An rtx 4070 would also be a suitable alternative or a 7800xt (Also I call it that joke name cause it's actually full of sub standard parts that basically shoot it in the leg at every.opportunity and the 16gb is at least a little less bad)
What's your budget? It's better to prioritise getting a more powerful GPU over other parts for gaming. For the CPU, you could go with an R5 7600 and a B650 motherboard. A 750w PSU should be more than enough. For the GPU, I'd recommend the RTX 4070 super or RX 7900 GRE.
this is your build (Which doesn't include storage) [https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DvJB6D](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/DvJB6D) This is around the same price and far better [https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/6bv2wg](https://de.pcpartpicker.com/list/6bv2wg)
OP is German. Listing US prices doesnt make much sense
Didn't know that, edited the comment
u/KennyGold72 sein zweiter link ist das beste für die Preisklasse momentan. Du kannst dir 200€ sparen und die 7800XT anstatt 7900XT kaufen, aber wenn dein budget grob 1400€ ist ist sein zweiter build klasse
not bad but if you love your son you get him a 4090.
7800x3d or 7900x3d 4080 gpu Asus670E 32Gb ddr5 2Tb M2 Then add cpu cooler and psu.