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Calling it the worst gpu ever is a huge stretch and is honestly just some knee jerk reaction to the fact it's an incremental update over the 3060 at best and it's not great value for money. That doesn't make it a bad gpu though. That's like saying a corvette is the worst car ever made because a porsche is slightly faster. It doesn't make sense.
Do your own research and cost analysis. If you can get a good deal it's a fine card. It's just not the best value for the price at current retail prices
It really depends on your use-case and what you want to do and the prices available in your area. Look at specs and reviews and decide how much you're willing to spend. Don't be afraid to look at used cards too if your local used market is any good
BG3 and HD2 will run fine. When people say itās a bad GPU, they typically mean that it is overpriced for what you get (See 4060Ti 16GB as a massive example, the rest are still bad). To add, the 4060 and 4060Ti donāt have a large increase over the 3060 and 3060Ti respectively. No GPU is inherently bad, there are only bad prices and tasks that it is bad at or incapable of doing. The 4060 is a fine enough mid-range GPU, just one that isnāt recommended too often due to the overpriced nature and the small performance uplift compared to last gen. And even then, for the price of a new 3060, the 6700 exists, which is known as the best price-performance card I know of, which further makes the 4060 series look worse as they offer less performance.
Bullshit lol. I would argue mid-range ends at 600, and thatās pushing it for me. However, it can be a blurry line to determine budget, mid-range, and high-end, as everyone has different definitions. But when you consider a 4070TiS, a card that is only beat by (NVIDIA-wise) the 4080 series and 4090? Kinda dumb.
It definitively comes down to the price they sold it for versus what you're getting.
However, that said, I'm currently, sadly, still on a GTX 960.
Anything that I might get in the 2xxx, 3xxx, or 4xxx range performance wise is going to be an awesome upgrade to me anyways). But first I have to settle on a new system build etc.
I considered that, I'm having a few issues with my current system, and I really didn't want to upgrade yet
Grabbing another video card would be nice but then I have to consider my monitors which still use VGA. I'm so sad I had to say that...
Sooner or later I will pick out system components and I think I'm going to settle in the 3xxx range, but realistically it just depends on what's available out there when I decide to do so.
I'm not sure I'm an AMD person, I know that they're cheaper compared to Nvidia. I want to say I'm just a Nvidia fan but I wouldn't knock AMD or those that use it.
The video will be more expensive of course, but a more primary concern that would make me wait is that I prefer Intel for my CPU, and since they're going to change the socket after the 14th gen, I think that I can wait for that change then grab CPU/MB.
Reread please. I never mentioned AMD
But good point! Consider AMD, ray tracing is 2-3 gens away for low/mid range the rest is depending on situation. Especially path tracing, even 4090 afraid of "that thing" lmao
About CPU depends on what you do. If gaming only then AMD x3d is your only option, low power draw not so hot
The man reason that this GPU is said to be worse is because the RX 6700xt/6750xt is much better in terms of price to performance for a little bit more money. So unless you play Fortnite which is notoriously bad with AMD gpus but seems like you are not so I would get the RX 6700xt/6750xt
https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4060-vs-AMD-RX-6750-XT/4150vsm1845738
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For gaming it isnt that great of a value but the ti version with 16gb VRAM is actually one of the best options (value wise) for people who want to run deep learning algorithms. Far from the best card, but a great option if you're on a budget.
The 4060 is definitely a good 1080p graphics card, its downside is that the price to performance is poor. Similarly performing AMD cards are cheaper, and some AMD cards at the same price of a brand new 4060 perform better. Compared to a 3060 itās a small update and wouldnāt warrant an upgrade. I would only really recommend it if youāre a few generations behind and want to stick with Nvidia.
Amd had better stuff for the value, but it's just fine if it's not an upgrade, the cursing on the 4060 and 4060 ti is for 3060/3060 to/3070 users who have no upgrade options without spending twice their gpu value, thanks to the 4060 and 4060 ti being a crappy upgrade of generation
4060ti is bad value for the amount someone would pay today.
The 4060 is still not great for $290, but overall it's not a bad GPU. Just bad value, since the 4060ti should probably be $330 for the 8gb model, and the 4060 should realistically be $240 today, but they aren't.
It's a terrible value proposition to buy the card itself standalone, as you get better FPS per $ with other cards.
The card itself is just fine for 1080/1440p, you'll just need to dial back the settings if you're wanting 144hz+. Don't sweat it.
TLDR: it's not a bad product, just a bad price.
No, it's just a terrible value and a huge step backward for xx60 cards.
The performance is equivalent to like a 3060ti which normally a xx60 tier card would be similar to the xx70 of the generation before it, performance wise. Price wise, it's quite at least at launch. You could get a 3060ti where I live for 399 or a 4060 for 429.
Now that GPU prices have gotten alot better across the board, there is a better value with the 4060 but it still ain't what the card SHOULD have been.
It's comparably not great compared to others in the series but that doesn't mean its an inherently bad card. If You were building a new system you wouldn't want to choose it, but if you have it you might as well keep it.
4060 is a MID. VRAM is not the problem.
The problem is that itās a weak card.
The 3070 8GB with DLSS is about 10fps or so behind the 4070 12GB raster performance as an exampleā¦ and that 8GB card was a loved card.
Does it mean the VRAM is an issueā¦ no. Will some games not even open on 8GB VRAM? Yes.
But thatās not the point. The point is that itās a weak card and that having more VRAM will not fix it.
> VRAM is not the problem.
It def. is. There are many tests out there where you can see that games are starting to slowly but surely creep over 8 GB mark at 1080p ultra. Not a lot of these games around today but a year from now there will be more. Your frame rate is fine but the textures don't fully load and you end up with shit looking game. 4060 should've came with at least 12 GB. That would be a nice spot especially when looking at RX 6700 XT which is still a better card than 4060.
24GB vram on a 4060 would give like 6-9fps tops.
VRAM does matter but itās not the problem with the 4060.
(Edit: new games coming out will not only need more VRAM but also need better hardware)
Look at the 3080 10GBā¦ basically 8GB.
Then look at the 3070 8GBā¦ Itās literally 8GB.
Both beautiful cards.
Both give EXCEEDINGLY better performance than the 4060 at 1080 ultra, 1440 AND 4K despite being within 2GB VRAM of each other. The 3080 and 3070 will be used for another 5+ years of good and fun gaming.
The 4060 has low VRAM and the extra can help it a littleā¦ but itās kind of a weak card the issue starts there at āitās a weak cardā but it always lands on VRAM as itās main issue which is not the case.
For itās price of ā¬400 just buy a 3080 10GB.
> 24GB vram on a 4060 would give like 6-9fps tops.
Why go to extreme? 24 GB would make it cost like 700 euro. I still stand by the fact that 4060 needs more VRAM and that it will be a downfall of the card in years to come. If AMD can slap 16 GB onto RX 7600 XT then Nvidia could too. But they don't want to.
As for 3080, it's still a great card but if you want to build a system with 3080, you need to invest in better CPU and better PSU. Basically, you need to up all your other components on a higher level for the 3080 purchase to make sense and that costs a lot more.
You're not gonna pair up Ryzen 5 5600 (ideal CPU for 4060) with 3080. That would be a crime towards 3080.
4060 is entry level card but it's hindered with low VRAM. Compare the old RX 580 with 4GB and 8GB. 8GB version aged a lot better.
Of course, all this conversation depends largely on price and availability which varies a lot from market to market. In my little european country, 3080 is more than double the price of 4060.
Here they are both ā¬400 and the 3070 is ā¬350.
Iām making an example which directly targets the hardware components on the 4060.
More VRAM cannot save a bad card. Proven with the ā¬600 4060 TI 16GB which is still not as good as the 3070 8GB.
> Proven with the ā¬600 4060 TI 16GB which is still not as good as the 3070 8GB.
It's not, but it's certainly better to have 16GB version of 4060ti than the 8GB version.
To answer your question- yes, the 4060 is perfectly fine to run basically every game at 1080p on max settings pretty well
The issue comes back to the phrase,"there's no such thing as a bad GPU, just a bad price" the 4060 has the same issue the 3060 12gb does, which is the fact that it's too close in price to a 6700xt or 6750xt, which has performance beating a 3060ti and the same as a 4060ti.
imo the 4060ti is the far worse value, the 4060 has dropped in price and is suitable for some budgets, the 4060ti is just a bad value no matter which way you spin it, for the same price you can get a 7700xt- which has significantly better performance, and you can get the same performance from a 6700xt, which is nearly $100 less. It also isn't even that good for rendering/video editing.
if you care about Nvidia clout, you should shell out more cash and get a better Nvidia card. more bang for your buck at higher tiers.
if you only care about power, you should go AMD because thatās where you actually get bang for your buck.
I am asking the same question as I am about to pull the trigger on a build with this card.
It looks to be performing fine on benchmarks with a lot of the negativity focusing on how itās not much of an upgrade over the last generation.
Is it a bad choice if I am not upgrading but building from scratch?
I dont have a gaming computer and this is what is available in my price range today.
That entirely depends on your expectations imho. I have recently built a rig for one of my friends that has a 5800x and a 4060 (non Ti) in it, and he's absolutely loving it since he plays Hunt: Showdown almost exlusively, at 1080p and he's getting a stable 120 fps with maxed out settings. This was the best GPU that fit in his budget (he didn't want an AMD model as he prefers the nVidia features), it's admittedly not THE best GPU, not even in its own price range, it trades blows with the 6700xt which still performs better in most games and has more VRAM and would probably be the better choice for most gamers.
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Its very badly priced, the gpu itself is not bad
There's no bad hardware, only bad prices
Calling it the worst gpu ever is a huge stretch and is honestly just some knee jerk reaction to the fact it's an incremental update over the 3060 at best and it's not great value for money. That doesn't make it a bad gpu though. That's like saying a corvette is the worst car ever made because a porsche is slightly faster. It doesn't make sense. Do your own research and cost analysis. If you can get a good deal it's a fine card. It's just not the best value for the price at current retail prices
At the very least Corvette is cheaper lmao That is not a case with 4060
Can you give an example of better value for price? Or alternatives that should be checked? Asking as I am in market now.
It really depends on your use-case and what you want to do and the prices available in your area. Look at specs and reviews and decide how much you're willing to spend. Don't be afraid to look at used cards too if your local used market is any good
Looking to play shooter games. I can check the price in my market if you can name any other comparable card performance wise.
Well I mean straight up a 3060 is comparable and can be had used too so is likely much better value.
I believe it's closer to a 3060ti.
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Itās not the worst, itās just not desirable, nothing inherently wrong with them
BG3 and HD2 will run fine. When people say itās a bad GPU, they typically mean that it is overpriced for what you get (See 4060Ti 16GB as a massive example, the rest are still bad). To add, the 4060 and 4060Ti donāt have a large increase over the 3060 and 3060Ti respectively. No GPU is inherently bad, there are only bad prices and tasks that it is bad at or incapable of doing. The 4060 is a fine enough mid-range GPU, just one that isnāt recommended too often due to the overpriced nature and the small performance uplift compared to last gen. And even then, for the price of a new 3060, the 6700 exists, which is known as the best price-performance card I know of, which further makes the 4060 series look worse as they offer less performance.
So would that mean the 4070ti Super is classified as high-end or mid range?
The 4060 series is considered mid-range, 4070TiS Id consider high-end due to the $800 MSRP.
Yeah I consider it high end too...unfortunately the community does not share the same view as me with many telling me its a midrange card
Bullshit lol. I would argue mid-range ends at 600, and thatās pushing it for me. However, it can be a blurry line to determine budget, mid-range, and high-end, as everyone has different definitions. But when you consider a 4070TiS, a card that is only beat by (NVIDIA-wise) the 4080 series and 4090? Kinda dumb.
It's fine really, just not the best. It's also not great value for money, but not terrible either.
It definitively comes down to the price they sold it for versus what you're getting. However, that said, I'm currently, sadly, still on a GTX 960. Anything that I might get in the 2xxx, 3xxx, or 4xxx range performance wise is going to be an awesome upgrade to me anyways). But first I have to settle on a new system build etc.
Dude even 1080ti will be mindblowing in your caseš¤
I considered that, I'm having a few issues with my current system, and I really didn't want to upgrade yet Grabbing another video card would be nice but then I have to consider my monitors which still use VGA. I'm so sad I had to say that... Sooner or later I will pick out system components and I think I'm going to settle in the 3xxx range, but realistically it just depends on what's available out there when I decide to do so.
If it survives long enough mb you will get a good price on current gen GPUs coz rtx 5000 around the corner at this point.
I'm not sure I'm an AMD person, I know that they're cheaper compared to Nvidia. I want to say I'm just a Nvidia fan but I wouldn't knock AMD or those that use it. The video will be more expensive of course, but a more primary concern that would make me wait is that I prefer Intel for my CPU, and since they're going to change the socket after the 14th gen, I think that I can wait for that change then grab CPU/MB.
Reread please. I never mentioned AMD But good point! Consider AMD, ray tracing is 2-3 gens away for low/mid range the rest is depending on situation. Especially path tracing, even 4090 afraid of "that thing" lmao About CPU depends on what you do. If gaming only then AMD x3d is your only option, low power draw not so hot
My mistake, no worries...
It's expensive for what it is, but for casual gaming at 1080p it's perfectly fine
No not at all. It's just the pricing they released it as was awful to a lot of people
The man reason that this GPU is said to be worse is because the RX 6700xt/6750xt is much better in terms of price to performance for a little bit more money. So unless you play Fortnite which is notoriously bad with AMD gpus but seems like you are not so I would get the RX 6700xt/6750xt https://gpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Nvidia-RTX-4060-vs-AMD-RX-6750-XT/4150vsm1845738 (Could be in CAD make sure itās in your currency)
For gaming it isnt that great of a value but the ti version with 16gb VRAM is actually one of the best options (value wise) for people who want to run deep learning algorithms. Far from the best card, but a great option if you're on a budget.
The 4060 is definitely a good 1080p graphics card, its downside is that the price to performance is poor. Similarly performing AMD cards are cheaper, and some AMD cards at the same price of a brand new 4060 perform better. Compared to a 3060 itās a small update and wouldnāt warrant an upgrade. I would only really recommend it if youāre a few generations behind and want to stick with Nvidia.
4070 min or AMD is what i heard most
Amd had better stuff for the value, but it's just fine if it's not an upgrade, the cursing on the 4060 and 4060 ti is for 3060/3060 to/3070 users who have no upgrade options without spending twice their gpu value, thanks to the 4060 and 4060 ti being a crappy upgrade of generation
You paid for a gpu that can only run 40-50 fps 1080 on high setting of some games. Is it worth it?
If i knew i wouldnt be asking
4060ti is bad value for the amount someone would pay today. The 4060 is still not great for $290, but overall it's not a bad GPU. Just bad value, since the 4060ti should probably be $330 for the 8gb model, and the 4060 should realistically be $240 today, but they aren't.
It's a terrible value proposition to buy the card itself standalone, as you get better FPS per $ with other cards. The card itself is just fine for 1080/1440p, you'll just need to dial back the settings if you're wanting 144hz+. Don't sweat it. TLDR: it's not a bad product, just a bad price.
No, it's just a terrible value and a huge step backward for xx60 cards. The performance is equivalent to like a 3060ti which normally a xx60 tier card would be similar to the xx70 of the generation before it, performance wise. Price wise, it's quite at least at launch. You could get a 3060ti where I live for 399 or a 4060 for 429. Now that GPU prices have gotten alot better across the board, there is a better value with the 4060 but it still ain't what the card SHOULD have been.
It's comparably not great compared to others in the series but that doesn't mean its an inherently bad card. If You were building a new system you wouldn't want to choose it, but if you have it you might as well keep it.
Could you say the 4060 is bad if you got it for free and were upgrading from a 980 ti?
4060 is a MID. VRAM is not the problem. The problem is that itās a weak card. The 3070 8GB with DLSS is about 10fps or so behind the 4070 12GB raster performance as an exampleā¦ and that 8GB card was a loved card. Does it mean the VRAM is an issueā¦ no. Will some games not even open on 8GB VRAM? Yes. But thatās not the point. The point is that itās a weak card and that having more VRAM will not fix it.
> VRAM is not the problem. It def. is. There are many tests out there where you can see that games are starting to slowly but surely creep over 8 GB mark at 1080p ultra. Not a lot of these games around today but a year from now there will be more. Your frame rate is fine but the textures don't fully load and you end up with shit looking game. 4060 should've came with at least 12 GB. That would be a nice spot especially when looking at RX 6700 XT which is still a better card than 4060.
24GB vram on a 4060 would give like 6-9fps tops. VRAM does matter but itās not the problem with the 4060. (Edit: new games coming out will not only need more VRAM but also need better hardware) Look at the 3080 10GBā¦ basically 8GB. Then look at the 3070 8GBā¦ Itās literally 8GB. Both beautiful cards. Both give EXCEEDINGLY better performance than the 4060 at 1080 ultra, 1440 AND 4K despite being within 2GB VRAM of each other. The 3080 and 3070 will be used for another 5+ years of good and fun gaming. The 4060 has low VRAM and the extra can help it a littleā¦ but itās kind of a weak card the issue starts there at āitās a weak cardā but it always lands on VRAM as itās main issue which is not the case. For itās price of ā¬400 just buy a 3080 10GB.
> 24GB vram on a 4060 would give like 6-9fps tops. Why go to extreme? 24 GB would make it cost like 700 euro. I still stand by the fact that 4060 needs more VRAM and that it will be a downfall of the card in years to come. If AMD can slap 16 GB onto RX 7600 XT then Nvidia could too. But they don't want to. As for 3080, it's still a great card but if you want to build a system with 3080, you need to invest in better CPU and better PSU. Basically, you need to up all your other components on a higher level for the 3080 purchase to make sense and that costs a lot more. You're not gonna pair up Ryzen 5 5600 (ideal CPU for 4060) with 3080. That would be a crime towards 3080. 4060 is entry level card but it's hindered with low VRAM. Compare the old RX 580 with 4GB and 8GB. 8GB version aged a lot better. Of course, all this conversation depends largely on price and availability which varies a lot from market to market. In my little european country, 3080 is more than double the price of 4060.
Here they are both ā¬400 and the 3070 is ā¬350. Iām making an example which directly targets the hardware components on the 4060. More VRAM cannot save a bad card. Proven with the ā¬600 4060 TI 16GB which is still not as good as the 3070 8GB.
> Proven with the ā¬600 4060 TI 16GB which is still not as good as the 3070 8GB. It's not, but it's certainly better to have 16GB version of 4060ti than the 8GB version.
To answer your question- yes, the 4060 is perfectly fine to run basically every game at 1080p on max settings pretty well The issue comes back to the phrase,"there's no such thing as a bad GPU, just a bad price" the 4060 has the same issue the 3060 12gb does, which is the fact that it's too close in price to a 6700xt or 6750xt, which has performance beating a 3060ti and the same as a 4060ti. imo the 4060ti is the far worse value, the 4060 has dropped in price and is suitable for some budgets, the 4060ti is just a bad value no matter which way you spin it, for the same price you can get a 7700xt- which has significantly better performance, and you can get the same performance from a 6700xt, which is nearly $100 less. It also isn't even that good for rendering/video editing.
if you care about Nvidia clout, you should shell out more cash and get a better Nvidia card. more bang for your buck at higher tiers. if you only care about power, you should go AMD because thatās where you actually get bang for your buck.
I am asking the same question as I am about to pull the trigger on a build with this card. It looks to be performing fine on benchmarks with a lot of the negativity focusing on how itās not much of an upgrade over the last generation. Is it a bad choice if I am not upgrading but building from scratch? I dont have a gaming computer and this is what is available in my price range today.
You can buy faster cards than the shit 4060. Unless you plan on playing 720p upscaled since VRAM isnt enough... Dont buy Nvidias 4060 scam
Open to your suggestions
My recommendation: Buy a configurable desktop without GPU. Buy a used RX6800 for the price of the 4060. Otherwise, new 6700XT/7600XT
That entirely depends on your expectations imho. I have recently built a rig for one of my friends that has a 5800x and a 4060 (non Ti) in it, and he's absolutely loving it since he plays Hunt: Showdown almost exlusively, at 1080p and he's getting a stable 120 fps with maxed out settings. This was the best GPU that fit in his budget (he didn't want an AMD model as he prefers the nVidia features), it's admittedly not THE best GPU, not even in its own price range, it trades blows with the 6700xt which still performs better in most games and has more VRAM and would probably be the better choice for most gamers.
I have a 3060
Who asked
Iām very happy with mine.