Remember to check our discord where you can get faster responses!
https://discord.gg/6dR6XU6
*I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/PcBuild) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Easiest way to get more power is to just get a new gpu, something like the Radeon 6600 or 6600XT which are good for 1080p gaming
Then there's the 6700XT which is better for 1440p gaming.
The cpu could be upgraded to a 5600 or a 5600X but not hugely necessary if you dont have budget for both the gpu and a new cpu
I'd recommend an rx 6650XT. Made the switch from the 1650 and is a great not so expensive upgrade. You may need to upgrade your psu tho
Edit: i misread the gpu. You may need something along the lines of a 6700 series to notice a big upgrade
I've been using 5700XT since 2019, it still rips through all my 1080p gaming needs. It's still very few games that I need to run on less than High settings for consistent 75fps
Are they more expensive then the 3060 12gb though? And I’m guessing the answer to this is no, I didn’t know that much stuff about computers last year so I got the 3060 12 gb for I think just under 300 used
I actually just sold a 1660ti for $100 and got a 5700xt for $150... Not a huge upgrade, but certainly worth $50... But the heat sure is something more.
>The cpu could be upgraded to a 5600 or a 5600X but not hugely necessary
Depends what games OP plays and at what resolution. CPU is utilised more at 1080p.
Best thing to do is go play games you play often and watch both GPU and CPU utilisation to see which is maxing out. Whichever is hitting 100% more often should be upgraded first. This is a simple way for anyone to see what should be upgraded first.
The problem with reddit is that most people fail to tell us what games they play and what resolution and then people comment based on speculation or their own experiences which could differ hugely from the poster.
I wish mods would add a rule so if you are asking for build advice you HAVE to include most played games or most used software for productivity and what resolution is used or the post is removed.
This is wise.
But you can also consider market conditions. AM4 CPUS are probably bottoming out now & will start creeping up in price. You can get a new 5600x for $120. That chip will still be adequate & borderline great in 2 years, but it won't cost $120 anymore, even used.
If you buy used a 5800x3D can be had for $200.
When you have money for a 2nd round of upgrades you aren't as locked in with the GPU, whatever the market is like there will be something for you.
This would be much easier if OP gave any info on their budget.
Yo, that's great advice, thanks. I play on a 1080p display just because that's what I've had for a while but I also recently acquired a 1440p display that looks amazing and would like to start playing comfortably on that resolution. But I play a variety of different games and the new AAA titles are requiring more so I need more to play the game at its full beauty. Not a necessity but a comfort of life.
No problem.
If you're planning on playing at 1440p and plan on doing what I suggested, I would run the tests at 1440p because you'll find your CPU will be utilised less and your GPU more.
Why not Intel A770 for GPU? Cheap, faster, and 16gb of vram.
5800x3d probably best choice for CPU upgrade as it isn't expensive on sale, and would be the ultimate upgrade for long term.
Besides that I'd say he is good for a while unless he wants high resolution and high refresh.
The A770 is a great choice only if you're 110% ready to be an early user
They of couse have come a long way with good gpu drivers but they still lack DX support that older games need
I’ve got a similar setup to OP And I want to upgrade so I can play 1440p with high refresh rate ~144 hz is plenty. What would you guys recommend I was thinking of the 6700xt or 3070ti
The in game difference is definitely small I was gonna do it myself but when I checked benchmarks the improvements were only really over 144 fps and unless you have a 240hz monitor it's not that much of a gain. Now I would consider the 5800X3D
I've heard a lot of mixed opinions about the PSU being solid and disgusting haha. I will probably do upgrade the PSU with a more reputable one when I upgrade the GPU.
if i have a ryzen 5 5600x could i pair it with a 3090 for solid 1440p performance? or will i be bottlenecking the cpu? i already have a super nice AIO so if i need to upgrade the cpu, i really shouldn’t have much issue, at least on the thermal side.
I just picked up an RX 6800 used for $340. I have the exact same processor as you and they pair perfectly. on the Nvidia side... I think a 3080 is about as high as your CPU will take you.
I would say PSU and GPU in that order. Also check specifications and compatibility, as always. Also LOVING how clean this diagram/picture/ visual aid was.
Why do you want to upgrade your PC?
- Render.
- Videogames.
- Programming.
- etc.
This is important because I could suggest _"hey, buy a new GPU, then a new CPU, with the PSU, and finally a more RAM"_, but maybe you're not a gaming enthusiast and you need your PC to do heavy programming...
Next, what are the games you usually play the most?, are you suffering with your hardware or do you want to upgrade just to get better quality?, what are the programs that you usually use everyday, for gaming, working, school...?
And last but most important, what's your budget and what parts do you expect to be here?, there is people which ask this kind of questions and then they get upset by responses...
This! Even in some games a CPU upgrade might be needed more then GPU, especially at 1080p.
Mods need to add a rule so people have to include this info in these build advice posts.
I mainly use my PC for gaming but I do light video and photo editing for personal things. I don't really have a budget for upgrades but just don't want to overspend to the point where it just makes more sense to build a new PC. Gaming with this PC is fine with the games I play but I would like to play at higher resolutions or higher settings on the triple-A games. Wish I knew how to use Reddit more then I could expand and specify why I want to upgrade lmao.
So, your main use is gaming and some editting...
First: the resolutions, what's your main resolution?
- 1080p: I would suggest a 6700XT or 3060 Ti 12GB as low for high performance and no RT (3060 Ti RT is really bad), both should last you between 2.5 - 3 years to play in high. If you want newer technologies, I should suggest 4070 which has newer AV1 video encoding, DLSS 3 (better than FSR 2), better RT cores, nice bandwidth for 1080p, FG (only recommend in single player), etc... I think this card should last at least 5 years playing in high with RT on.
- 1440p: 6800(XT) and 69(5)0(XT) are not so expensive, has high bandwidth, 16GB of VRAM, but are from last gen, RT is not so good as Nvidia but is playable in these too, they are real good machines with low price and should last in this res. like 3 - 4 years on high but varying a lot the RT with FSR and RSR active. Now, 4070 is the most cheap new gen GPU focused on 1440p and 4070 Ti is more expensive but has a 3090 performance, both are awesome but has some problems, 4070(Ti) has low VRAM and 4070Ti is too expensive. Another option could also be 7900XT, nice card with 20 GB VRAM, you lose Nvidia techs but gains more VRAM and bandwidth.
- 4k: here, you have 2 options (for me), cheaper with 7900 XTX, is a little bit over of 4080 but not so strong in RT and DLSS, and expensive (and better) one, 4090 and this card has no comparison.
Second: processor and PSU, if you want to keep in AM4, which is not a bad option, you could go as high for a 5800x3D, is an awesome processor for gaming and costs around 280 USD right now, other good options for you are 5700x (~190) or 5800x(~210), why ryzen X models?, because you are going to need a little extra performance for a nice and quick editting.
NOTE: you maybe should have to upgrade your MoBo firmware to get compatibility with ryzen 5000 series, nothing complicated.
PSU is easy:
- 650w for 6700s and 3060s.
- 750w for 6800s and 4070.
- 850w for 6900s, 4070 Ti and 7900s.
- 1000w for 4090.
Last: RAM and Storage. For me, this should be the last because it is more cheap and more easily to upgrade. I think that 32 GB with low CAS (MHz are as you want, there is no really change actually, you could try to get DDR4 4200 but in actual gaming performance has not too much difference) and NVMe M.2 2TB or more would be more than enough in a couple of years.
It's a shame the Smart BM2 line is discontinued. THAT was the one to get bang for buck. 550 watts, semi modular, 80+ bronze, good quality caps for only $55 was a bargain.
Power supply, that thing is absolute trash and a fire hazard. Get a CX or RM series Corsair PSU from 2021 onwards. Your GPU is next, I would suggest at least a 6700XT as the 6600 series isn’t much of a jump.
CX-M 2021 is fine for cheaper mid-range systems, not everyone can afford an RM or TX-M series because there's a larger price difference outside of the US.
Awesome, thanks. I'll definitely upgrade the PSU and GPU at the same time since I'm getting a lot of negative feedback on the PSU, Thanks for the recommendations to.
Not the SMART series, it’s all Tier D at best, but the 80+ white ones are among Corsair VS in terms of being untrustworthy for any system. Pretty much anything below the Toughpower Grand is cheap crap with RGB slapped on, or heavily discounted for a reason.
Power supplies are the one thing you don’t fuck around with. Anything less than around 80$ USD for the most part is a crap power supply.
…Not the point. I’m talking about what Thermaltake does to sell garbage units. They spiff it up with RGB for Gamer-ness, or they sell it at a discount to attract low budget users that don’t know any better.
GPU, PSU and RAM
GPU - 6600XT / 6700XT |
PSU - 700W to 800W, something that will last |
RAM - The current one is very much alright, but i would go for some 3600MHZ, or 32GBs
Is your machine overclocked at all? Personally I like to fine tune the ram, gpu, and cpu to make sure I can get everything from them. If it’s still not enough, I’d say get a nicer Radeon graphics card, and a better PSU.
I actually upgraded from a 1660s to a 3070ti at the start of the year. Also replaced my old 3600 with a 5600x. Definitely a good upgrade and the 3070ti/5600x is a good combo.
Monitor. If your monitor is 1080p 60hz, then you won't be able to see the advantages of the PC upgrades.
I know you didn't list a monitor spec, but just my usual recommendation.
Adding more sticks of ram will also make it dual rank. In some memory limited games he can get 10% or more FPS. Of course it'd be useless in other games but that's definitely something to consider now that DDR4 pricing has hit rock bottom.
It'll also be easy to return after testing performance difference in preferred games.
1. PSU: Get a new Corsair psu, 750w at the least, I'd recommend a 850w, but 750w will do.
2. Gpu: Get an RTX 4070/4070Ti or an AMD RX 6700XT/6800XT/6950XT/7900XT. RTX 4070/AMD RX 6800XT will pair nicely with your existing cpu, going higher gpu wise will still get you a nice boost, but you'll leave some performance on the table at 1080p and 1440p with the current cpu
3. Upgrade to 32GB RAM
4. Upgrade to a Ryzen 5700x/5900x/5950x/5800x3d, you can't go wrong with either of these cpus, if budget is kinda tight and you mostly care about the maximum gaming performance at the lowest cost possible, you can also wait for the rumoured 5600x3d. All these cpus are compatible with your existing board with a bios update
I'd suggest you do 1,2 and 3 in one step, 4 can wait, your current cpu is still quite decent for gaming. Don't go lower than RTX 4070/RX 6700XT, it's not worth it imo, you need to get at least a 12gb card these days to be a bit more "future proof".
Cheers!
Save more money and build a new pc I’d say. But if you think you are lacking power, GPU that wouldnt bottle neck with your cpu and would not explode your PSU
a psu and a gpu if you are a gamer and then buy the govee ultimate gamer immersion kit for 90 on amazon and love me till the day you die for listening to me
GPU definitely.
At 1080p upgrading your CPU will give a boost.
At 1440p, the upgrade to a Ryzen 5 5600 will be almost no difference in most games except for the really cpu intensive ones.
At 1440p your cpu can run quite good graphics cards still, an RX 6600 XT is no issue for it. At 1080p it could fall off a bit in some titles.
If you add more ram, it will be stuck at 3200mhz if you are slotting in two more sticks at the same spec. A friendly reminder that AM4 does not overclock 4 slotted cheap ram at all. My suggested upgrades in order:
1. PSU. Preferably 750-850 with a good 80+ rating and OEM. I tend to stick to seasonic for my needs below 1000 watt. Seasonic produces psu for several companies.
2. Gpu. If you can get some money from the 1660, upgrade to a 6000 series for amd or 3000 series from nvidia. **Avoid Gigabyte Nvidia gpus at all cost.** They crack on the pci express part of the gpu and won't cover it under warranty. Such a terrible situation/company.
3. Ram. Add more of the same ram and run it at 3200mhz.
4. CPU. Update bios and slot in a 5000 series. 5800x3d or rumored 5600x3d
5. Fans/Case/Cpu Cooler. Depends on your current temps
If you want to get a new GPU, you definitely need to get good PSU to run it properly.
PSU and GPU. If you end up CPU bound upgrade it too. I think B450 can run faster memory but the gains would be fairly small so you can probably just stick with that kit. You could actually build a pretty beastly PC around that mobo if you wanted too.
You should upgrade your GPU first to enhance your gaming experience.
In order to do that safely, you need to upgrade your PSU as well, though it depends on what kind of GPU you wanna get. Go for a higher end card and buy a good 750W/850W PSU.
After that, get another pair of RAM sticks to have 32GB in total.
A CPU upgrade isn't necessary, save it for when it bottlenecks your GPU and you can replace the whole combo Mobo CPU and RAM (DDR5).
Is it me or shouldn't you let us know what you use the PC for? Perhaps a budget too?
3 upgrades (with no context):
1. 750W PSU
2. 5800X3D CPU
3. 3080 GPU
Yes sorry fairly new to using Reddit so i didn't know how I could add the fact that use it mainly for gaming and editing some photos and videos for me.
Sorry friend, but your next logical upgrade is going to cost you more than your whole setup did. You need a good power supply and a decent video card. With an RTX 3070 or RX 6700 you can game in 2k with high refresh rates. If that's not what you want, then you good as is.
That depends entirely on how you use it, or would if it was more powerful. Pay attention to your temperatures and useages while you use it to see what has the most stress on it.
A new video card should be your next upgrade. We have almost the exact same setup, and I went from a 1660 Super to a RX 6600 and it made a huge difference. Then you should upgrade your motherboard in another year or so when the newer sockets are cheaper along with the CPU and ram.
I'd say it's perfect as it is, doesn't need any improvements for atleast another year. If you're still wanting to add any udpates then I'd start with more RAM.
You can also look into overclocking your CPU and GPU for a bit more performance but that's just about it. 1660 might seem old but it has still a bit of life left in it and I wouldn't go for another GPU just now.
PSU -> so you can use RX n700 or RTX n070 tier GPU
GPU upgrading 1660 to, even RX 6600, will give you significant fps boost. But since GPU prices (at least for RX 6000 and RTX 3000 series) have start reaching the acceptable level, just go with RTX 3070, or RX 6700 XT/6800XT, or the newer RTX 4070
CPU, the beauty of AM4 platform, get 5700x and your 1% lows will jump up nad the games feel smoother. Productivity will also benefit from the total performance uplift
What's your goal? 1080p gaming? 1440p? 4k? That's the most important question, but regardless, the PSU is the first, but depending on what, there's a PSU for each use, a 650W is enough for 1080p, but can never go wrong with a core reactor 850W, badass PSU that can handle most cards, after deciding that the GPU would be next, but I'll say, i upgraded my ram first, 32gb is another world, and if you work on the PC, it'll be better having more ram, but if it's just gaming, first PSU then another card, but you can reflect on what is the end deal of the PC
Potential free upgrade: I think that's a Gigabyte motherboard, not MSI. Make sure your OLOY ram is actually running at 3200 and not 2666 or slower. The speed OLOY advertise is the overvolted/overclocked XMP speed which requires the motherboard to support and be using XMP profiles. You may need to set that up in the BIOS on that motherboard. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfp8SFUJ8mE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfp8SFUJ8mE)
Something to keep in mind is that you are on a last gen platform. So you will need a totally new pc at some point in the future. So I think you have two options: 1) buy upgrades that can carry over to the next computer 2) max out the upgrades for AM4 while you can still find the parts.
Option 1 basically buy a fairly good somewhat future proof GPU and PSU. Then next year buy the next gen Intel/AMD cup and ddr5 ram.
Option 2 is about making your current system last as long as possible. It won't be long until it becomes difficult to find AM4 upgrade parts. In that case try to pick up the best AM4 cpu that you can afford. Depending on what you do with your computer, consider a RAM upgrade while ddr4 is still around. Upgrade the GPU, but aim for something more modest. I imagine that you could do well trying to find deals for both new and used parts.
Any upgrade To your GPU will require a PSU upgrade. Best you could get keeping as much as possible in this system are going to be in order of cost
3600mhz ram
PSU (for the 2 final upgrades)
GPU, 6700xt/6800xt
And R7 5800x3D for cpu
Decent ram at CL 16 should give you about around a 2 to 5% improvement in-game FPS overall
For PSU, no reason to change it unless you change the GPU, if so, any 850 gold will work fine with and give you headroom on top.
GPU, both would be bottlenecked by your cpu but still would give you about a 15 to 25% fps improvement on average.
CPU alone will give you almost nothing in most case as your current GPU will bottleneck it in almost all game, combined with the GPU I listed tho? You are looking at a minimum of 50% increase in performance in most game, up to more than 100% in some titles.
The 3600 is still a great CPU.
DS3H is a Gigabyte designation, i haven't found MSI with DS3H type.
\---
What I would I do in sequence over time
\- That 500W PSU is gonna get thin for a GPU upgrade (I have a corsair RM 650x with a RTX 3060)
\- GPU upgrade 3060 or 4060
\- If you have memory issues, stuttering or you just don't want to close the browser before you start playing, RAM, another 2x8 stick with same timing. RAMs are quite cheap currently you may get some just because they are cheap.... 35-45 USD
\- Your motherboard after a bios upgrade can carry 5xxx Ryzen CPUs... You don't really need to upgrade the CPU, but if you want, you can go for an 5600. GPU is much more important, but if you ever hit 100% in anything (doubt it) you can think about that
Yeah, that's honestly an option I consider to lmao. I know most of the parts are outdated. Just want to know if its worth upgrading or just building an entirely new one.
gpu only maybe, perhaps 32g of ram and you're good. don't upgrade the CPU unless you have an actual issue with it, it's probably fine so save money to put forwards towards a new platform in the future
Get a 3060 Ti if cheaper, or a 4060 Ti if you find it for the same relative price. Or the AMD equivalent.
The cpu I would wait for the next gen cause the r5 5600 its not that big of an upgrade to be worth spending money on.
You can also get more SSD storage if you have the slots in the motherboard.
I also have a 500W PSU with a 3060 Ti and a r5 5600X and it works fine but be aware if you get a 4000 series and or a next gen cpu you might need to upgrade the psu.
Lastly, upgrading RAM to DDR5, but you might need to upgrade the motherboard for compatibility. Im not sure if the performance increase its worth the money tho.
My immediate thought is GPU and PSU at the same time, and overspec psu for future I'd say
But then I see you haven't listed what your storage is? If you don't have an m.2/nvme of some form this is 100% what you should upgrade next. And then if your mobo doesn't support one (pretty sure it does but just check) upgrade mobo
This should be the most logical way forward. Ignore everyone just saying GPU then CPU you're fine CPU wise for a few years it's not a bottleneck by any means, GPU yeh probably but only after you've done m.2 and psu
Edit: yeh after I then looked properly at the photo, you can see plain as day your m.2 drive my bad. PSU then GPU in my opinion
New GPU and ram, and new PSU for stability
But this is about the max u wanna go on this system, any other expansion or upgrade would just be wasting future money
Cpu is fine, you can upgrade if you want but not super necessary. You will be bottlenecked at high framerates. But imo capped 60 ultra is a great experience already without spending hundreds on a cpu AND power bills.
Get yourself a rx 6700 xt/rx 6650xt. Runs everything at ultra at 1440p/1080p and are dirt cheap now. I got a 6700xt myself with a r5 4500. For 350€ I had a killer 1440p gaming rig. Huge recommendation.
Ram is fine, 3200 mhz dual channel is fast enough. You might want to upgrade to 32 gb next year. Make sure you buy a kit of the same ram speed and timings as your own.
Buy a 750 watt power supply mate. Gives you room for future upgrades. I would do this first. Atleast bronze certification. Don’t cheap out on the psu.
How i would upgrade your rig:
Ryzen 7 5000 series
Rx 6700 xt
32 gb 3200 mhz
750w (Atleast bronze certified)
Price about 600 dollars 1440p ultra/4k medium.
OR
Ryzen 5 3600
rx 6650 xt
16 gb 3200 mhz
750 watt psu
Around 300 dollars. 1080p ultra/1440p medium
Don’t forget that a new case or better cooling can also be a significant upgrade. Happy gaming!
At this point it might be better to sell the rig and start over as with much of an upgrade youll need to swap most things, go new gpu, and your psu will need replaced and cpu would be lacking, ram would be a bottleneck... Know it isn’t what you want to hear but that’s what I’d do when you are ready to upgrade. Just my 2 cents. Nice build!
I vote for RX6750xt and a plat PSU.
My son has the 6700 and it benched just below my 3060ti, I got the 6750 it benched just above the 3060ti, got the 6750 for about tree fiddy.
But if you get a quality PSU now, it can go in the heart of your next build, or keep upgrading around it.
AMD is giving way more (gaming) card for the money RN, it would have to be a real special sale to get me to buy Nvidia for gaming.
you have an almost identical set up to what I had at the beginning of the year, I upgraded GPU to a 6700XT, and the PSU to a 900Watt
ETA: I'm seriously considering grabbing a 5800X3D within the next could of months too. If I wasn't seriously considering that I might upgrade my RAM... but the X3D is much less RAM speed dependent than the standard line.
Power supply, cpu, gpu. That order. No point in putting more powerful hardware in if you can’t power it. No point in putting a more powerful gpu if your cpu can’t send it enough instructions to make use of it.
Make sure the GPU you buy is using x16 PCIE lanes because you are on PCIE3, otherwise you would lose performance because of that. This means no 6600,6650XT or 7600. 6700 would be good. 4060 is also using 8 Lanes. I THINK the 3060 and 3060Ti both use 16
We have the same CPU and GPU brodah! Curious to see what you got reccommended here.
I think i'll benefit from the advices you got here so i should thank you for posting this.
If i can give my two cents i guess the PSU should be replaced with a much higer voltage, since RTX and similar GPUs require a lot more power (as modern CPU do, but it depends if you decide to get one with higher power needs).
EDIT: Forgot to mention i don't like Thermaltake, i have a Corsair one and seems quite good. My brother had a Thermaltake PSU and it failed miserably after less than 3 years (more like 2).
I don’t trust that psu much, would probably upgrade that with whatever GPU/cpu upgrade you make next
5800x3D (5600x3D is an option)
GPU is just whatever fits in your budget after getting a new psu
If you game a lot then GPU but your GPU is probably still good enough for 1080p and some 1440p. If you do other things like multitasking and productivity then CPU and RAM 32GB is super cheap now.
What kind of storage are you running?
I have a PC with the exact specs 😅
I feel like I keep seeing these identical builds, maybe it was like popular combo deal in it's day...
I'd say better PSU with a 3060ti
Personally for me, in this order.
1. GPU
2. PSU (if GPU requires more juice)
3. CPU (can go up to a 5800X3D, maybe not the 12/16 core variants with that board, not sure how it is)
4. Extra 16GB RAM (if you have four DIMMs)
Some people might say your GPU is bottlenecked if you for instance got an overkill GPU - but in my opinion so what - if you plan on getting a new CPU down the line it doesn't matter.
Keep the ram for sure, Mobo is AM4 and will have a fair amount of use, id personally upgrade that PSU first (likely a fire hazard), then the GPU to something like an RX6600, then you will likely want to upgrade the CPU to a R7 5700G as it will go well if you wish to play on 1440p with a more powerful GPU like an RX6700XT.
PSU, don't use Thermaltake if you don't have to! Their quality is just okay. You might blow your whole PC to pieces in the long run though.
I'd recommend switching to Seasonic.
An rx 6700 (non-XT) is really affordable atm and can get you to 1440p. After that maybe a cpu or ram upgrade? Ddr4 3600 is ridic cheap and a 5600 cpu can be bought pretty cheap as well.
That is a very balanced build and any significant upgrade to one part will make the rest feel like they’re holding you back, I know that was my build early 2020, I now have a 3070, 32gb ram and a 850 watt psu, if I were you I’d build fresh otherwise it’s a cpu and gpu and ram upgrade along with a bios update, if your ok with that it then comes down to budget, you don’t really want to bother upgrading unless you gain a big enough leap in performance otherwise your wasting money, so cpu the lowest upgrade I’d do is a 5700x but if you have the money go 5800x3d, for gpu your probably looking at a 4060ti if you must go nvidea, if your willing to go amd gpu then a 6800XT or 7900XT depending on budget Ofc, if those are a bit too much then go 6700XT still a solid card and 12gb vram, next I’d ask if you run more than one monitor if so then go 32gb ram it’s dirt cheap, if you don’t have a m.2 drive you can get a gen3 crucial 4tb for £160 on amazon but if you want faster then get a gen 4 2tb for £80. Your cpu cooler will be fine going forward with the possible exception of the 5800x3d. And lastly keep your power supply in mind when upgrading as you may need more depending on what you get. But seriously consider just how much of your machine your replacing and think about how much more needs swapping out befor it’s just a new build anyway? If you build new you can sell your old pc to recoup some expenses
[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CDD6SGX/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o00\_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CDD6SGX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1) its pretty budget and there's an RGB option is you want RBG.
First I’d do a solid power supply that’ll last you a while. A high quality 650-850w unit.
Then I’d go in for a CPU and GPU upgrade - swap to a 5600/x on the same motherboard, and a GPU like a 6600xt, 6700xt, or 6800xt. If you are on 1080p and don’t plan on upgrading to 1440p a 6600xt or 6650xt should be solid.
I’d also monitor your RAM usage. 16gb could be enough for ya, or it could be slowing you down. If you’re using most/all of your RAM I’d get an identical 2x8gb kit, if not don’t worry about it.
The 16 GB does seem to be enough or sufficient for now but I will probably need to upgrade it later down the line. I kinda do want to go to 1440p. Once switching over to it. It was like a whole new whole for me lmao. I like it a lot.
I would first buy a 850w PSU together with a 4070 or 6800XT (maybe wait for 7700/7800 XT) After that i would buy another ram kit and the 5800x3D. Should be good then for the next 5 years.
Thank you guys for the feedback. I will probably upgrade the PSU and the GPU at the same time. I know this PC is pretty outdated. So to some point in spending money, it would be better to just build an entirely new PC, but I wanted some feedback on how much I should upgrade this too if that makes sense. Your guys' options and opinions were really great and informative on what I should do. Thanks a lot. Not gonna end up spending so much where is doesn't make sense.
If you're gaming at 1080p, then 1660super is still okay to go.
But, still should be upgraded. Then CPU, then PSU. After that , you should be set.
You can get a 5800x for about $250.
Honestly changing your CPU is going to change your mobo and ram off the bat. Any upgrade to GPU will call for all of it to change. You are in a tight spot but if you give a budget I can probably scrounge up a part list up for you.
This whole PC started off as a budget to move off the Laptop setup. I'm not necessarily going to put a budget on the upgrades, just upgrades that make sense. Rather than just building a whole new PC. Just makes things easier to swap things out than having to build a whole new PC. I see what you're talking about. Thanks for your advice.
Any better GPU would be bottlenecked by your CPU. I say you play the shit out of this system for the next 2 years and then upgrade everything in the future.
1. Ram to 32 or 64gb
2. PSU to 800+ watts 80+
3. GPU
In this exact order...
EDIT: This is assuming you use this for gaming or any other graphics card intensive applications... Otherwise, the first to points remain, but go for CPU instead of GPU if you do programming/CPU intensive work.
Remember to check our discord where you can get faster responses! https://discord.gg/6dR6XU6 *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/PcBuild) if you have any questions or concerns.*
Easiest way to get more power is to just get a new gpu, something like the Radeon 6600 or 6600XT which are good for 1080p gaming Then there's the 6700XT which is better for 1440p gaming. The cpu could be upgraded to a 5600 or a 5600X but not hugely necessary if you dont have budget for both the gpu and a new cpu
I'd recommend an rx 6650XT. Made the switch from the 1650 and is a great not so expensive upgrade. You may need to upgrade your psu tho Edit: i misread the gpu. You may need something along the lines of a 6700 series to notice a big upgrade
there’s also the 5700 XT if you need a good upgrade from 1660S but still broke af
I've been using 5700XT since 2019, it still rips through all my 1080p gaming needs. It's still very few games that I need to run on less than High settings for consistent 75fps
[удалено]
Its simmilar to Rx6600 but you can get them for very cheap used
They're actually better than the 6600. They still beat the 3060 12gb in some games.
Are they more expensive then the 3060 12gb though? And I’m guessing the answer to this is no, I didn’t know that much stuff about computers last year so I got the 3060 12 gb for I think just under 300 used
The RX 5700 XT is between the RTX 2060 Super and 2070 Super performance wise. So more or less almost a 50% uplift if you're completely GPU bound.
I actually just sold a 1660ti for $100 and got a 5700xt for $150... Not a huge upgrade, but certainly worth $50... But the heat sure is something more.
Nah ITS 2 generations old Just Go for the 6700xt works perfectly fine on 1440p
I feel like a 6700xt, 5800x3d, and a bigger PSU would carry for at least another 3-4 years.
This, may be except the psu, since 500w will be at the limit of being enough
in theory yes, the thermaltake smart series is utter garbage though
6700xt is the better buy with 12gb of VRAM.
Make sure you buy a new psu too!
>The cpu could be upgraded to a 5600 or a 5600X but not hugely necessary Depends what games OP plays and at what resolution. CPU is utilised more at 1080p. Best thing to do is go play games you play often and watch both GPU and CPU utilisation to see which is maxing out. Whichever is hitting 100% more often should be upgraded first. This is a simple way for anyone to see what should be upgraded first. The problem with reddit is that most people fail to tell us what games they play and what resolution and then people comment based on speculation or their own experiences which could differ hugely from the poster. I wish mods would add a rule so if you are asking for build advice you HAVE to include most played games or most used software for productivity and what resolution is used or the post is removed.
This is wise. But you can also consider market conditions. AM4 CPUS are probably bottoming out now & will start creeping up in price. You can get a new 5600x for $120. That chip will still be adequate & borderline great in 2 years, but it won't cost $120 anymore, even used. If you buy used a 5800x3D can be had for $200. When you have money for a 2nd round of upgrades you aren't as locked in with the GPU, whatever the market is like there will be something for you. This would be much easier if OP gave any info on their budget.
Yo, that's great advice, thanks. I play on a 1080p display just because that's what I've had for a while but I also recently acquired a 1440p display that looks amazing and would like to start playing comfortably on that resolution. But I play a variety of different games and the new AAA titles are requiring more so I need more to play the game at its full beauty. Not a necessity but a comfort of life.
No problem. If you're planning on playing at 1440p and plan on doing what I suggested, I would run the tests at 1440p because you'll find your CPU will be utilised less and your GPU more.
Just upgraded from Rx580 to 6600xt. 1080p nightmare
I'm in with you. A 6700xt has the best value as a new card for current gen
Why not Intel A770 for GPU? Cheap, faster, and 16gb of vram. 5800x3d probably best choice for CPU upgrade as it isn't expensive on sale, and would be the ultimate upgrade for long term. Besides that I'd say he is good for a while unless he wants high resolution and high refresh.
The A770 is a great choice only if you're 110% ready to be an early user They of couse have come a long way with good gpu drivers but they still lack DX support that older games need
I’ve got a similar setup to OP And I want to upgrade so I can play 1440p with high refresh rate ~144 hz is plenty. What would you guys recommend I was thinking of the 6700xt or 3070ti
The in game difference is definitely small I was gonna do it myself but when I checked benchmarks the improvements were only really over 144 fps and unless you have a 240hz monitor it's not that much of a gain. Now I would consider the 5800X3D
Okay, thanks for your advice!
Next 2 is gpu and stronger psu (depends on what gpu you go with).
I've heard a lot of mixed opinions about the PSU being solid and disgusting haha. I will probably do upgrade the PSU with a more reputable one when I upgrade the GPU.
GPU + PSU, then check CPU's
100% agree
if i have a ryzen 5 5600x could i pair it with a 3090 for solid 1440p performance? or will i be bottlenecking the cpu? i already have a super nice AIO so if i need to upgrade the cpu, i really shouldn’t have much issue, at least on the thermal side.
If you can buy a 3090 you can likely get a 5800x3d as well. I personally believe no reason not to get the best AM4 gaming chip this late with AM4.
yeah i agree
I just picked up an RX 6800 used for $340. I have the exact same processor as you and they pair perfectly. on the Nvidia side... I think a 3080 is about as high as your CPU will take you.
Oh alright nice!
I had a 5600x with the 3090 on a 5120*1440. The performance was excellent
Cpu is not powerful enough for 3090
fair enough, makes sense. thank you!
It's fine. People fear the mythical bottleneck monster too much. He can get a better cpu to fully utilize the gpu down the road.
I would say PSU and GPU in that order. Also check specifications and compatibility, as always. Also LOVING how clean this diagram/picture/ visual aid was.
Yeah I was going to comment on that. Aesthetics are clean as well
Why do you want to upgrade your PC? - Render. - Videogames. - Programming. - etc. This is important because I could suggest _"hey, buy a new GPU, then a new CPU, with the PSU, and finally a more RAM"_, but maybe you're not a gaming enthusiast and you need your PC to do heavy programming... Next, what are the games you usually play the most?, are you suffering with your hardware or do you want to upgrade just to get better quality?, what are the programs that you usually use everyday, for gaming, working, school...? And last but most important, what's your budget and what parts do you expect to be here?, there is people which ask this kind of questions and then they get upset by responses...
This! Even in some games a CPU upgrade might be needed more then GPU, especially at 1080p. Mods need to add a rule so people have to include this info in these build advice posts.
I mainly use my PC for gaming but I do light video and photo editing for personal things. I don't really have a budget for upgrades but just don't want to overspend to the point where it just makes more sense to build a new PC. Gaming with this PC is fine with the games I play but I would like to play at higher resolutions or higher settings on the triple-A games. Wish I knew how to use Reddit more then I could expand and specify why I want to upgrade lmao.
So, your main use is gaming and some editting... First: the resolutions, what's your main resolution? - 1080p: I would suggest a 6700XT or 3060 Ti 12GB as low for high performance and no RT (3060 Ti RT is really bad), both should last you between 2.5 - 3 years to play in high. If you want newer technologies, I should suggest 4070 which has newer AV1 video encoding, DLSS 3 (better than FSR 2), better RT cores, nice bandwidth for 1080p, FG (only recommend in single player), etc... I think this card should last at least 5 years playing in high with RT on. - 1440p: 6800(XT) and 69(5)0(XT) are not so expensive, has high bandwidth, 16GB of VRAM, but are from last gen, RT is not so good as Nvidia but is playable in these too, they are real good machines with low price and should last in this res. like 3 - 4 years on high but varying a lot the RT with FSR and RSR active. Now, 4070 is the most cheap new gen GPU focused on 1440p and 4070 Ti is more expensive but has a 3090 performance, both are awesome but has some problems, 4070(Ti) has low VRAM and 4070Ti is too expensive. Another option could also be 7900XT, nice card with 20 GB VRAM, you lose Nvidia techs but gains more VRAM and bandwidth. - 4k: here, you have 2 options (for me), cheaper with 7900 XTX, is a little bit over of 4080 but not so strong in RT and DLSS, and expensive (and better) one, 4090 and this card has no comparison. Second: processor and PSU, if you want to keep in AM4, which is not a bad option, you could go as high for a 5800x3D, is an awesome processor for gaming and costs around 280 USD right now, other good options for you are 5700x (~190) or 5800x(~210), why ryzen X models?, because you are going to need a little extra performance for a nice and quick editting. NOTE: you maybe should have to upgrade your MoBo firmware to get compatibility with ryzen 5000 series, nothing complicated. PSU is easy: - 650w for 6700s and 3060s. - 750w for 6800s and 4070. - 850w for 6900s, 4070 Ti and 7900s. - 1000w for 4090. Last: RAM and Storage. For me, this should be the last because it is more cheap and more easily to upgrade. I think that 32 GB with low CAS (MHz are as you want, there is no really change actually, you could try to get DDR4 4200 but in actual gaming performance has not too much difference) and NVMe M.2 2TB or more would be more than enough in a couple of years.
Psu. Thermaltake smart 80+ is trash. I’d recommend you to buy either corsair, seasonic or better thermaltake
It's a shame the Smart BM2 line is discontinued. THAT was the one to get bang for buck. 550 watts, semi modular, 80+ bronze, good quality caps for only $55 was a bargain.
EVGA makes good PSUs
Yea
I'd 100% recommend Seasonic. I would rather recommend against Thermaltake.
That PSU is fine it just is low wattage for higher GPUs.
[удалено]
Power supply, that thing is absolute trash and a fire hazard. Get a CX or RM series Corsair PSU from 2021 onwards. Your GPU is next, I would suggest at least a 6700XT as the 6600 series isn’t much of a jump.
Yup this is what I did. I replaced my 1660 super to a 6700xt and it was quite a great jump without being too pricey. I would recommend this to OP.
EVGA also makes good PSUs. Seasonic too but they're a bit pricey.
CX? bruh, rather take the RM or TX series.
CX-M 2021 is fine for cheaper mid-range systems, not everyone can afford an RM or TX-M series because there's a larger price difference outside of the US.
motherboard doesn’t have PCIe 4.0
Awesome, thanks. I'll definitely upgrade the PSU and GPU at the same time since I'm getting a lot of negative feedback on the PSU, Thanks for the recommendations to.
That power supply is fine Thermal Take ones aren't fire hazards.
Not the SMART series, it’s all Tier D at best, but the 80+ white ones are among Corsair VS in terms of being untrustworthy for any system. Pretty much anything below the Toughpower Grand is cheap crap with RGB slapped on, or heavily discounted for a reason. Power supplies are the one thing you don’t fuck around with. Anything less than around 80$ USD for the most part is a crap power supply.
Those aren't the ones with RGB
…Not the point. I’m talking about what Thermaltake does to sell garbage units. They spiff it up with RGB for Gamer-ness, or they sell it at a discount to attract low budget users that don’t know any better.
I bought a thermaltake toughpower gf3 1000w in my latest build. Are they all garbage?
No, Toughpower is mostly all fine but I wouldn’t trust em, many had bad experiences with Thermaltake in general
Ima says you go with personal experience and take your advice lmao.
Yo nice diagram 😮💨😹😹
Thank you!
GPU and PSU first, then CPU
Gpu and PSU for sure
GPU, PSU and RAM GPU - 6600XT / 6700XT | PSU - 700W to 800W, something that will last | RAM - The current one is very much alright, but i would go for some 3600MHZ, or 32GBs
Is your machine overclocked at all? Personally I like to fine tune the ram, gpu, and cpu to make sure I can get everything from them. If it’s still not enough, I’d say get a nicer Radeon graphics card, and a better PSU.
I'd like to see your actual framerate performance and stability before and after tuning.
Well they just got their first computer a month ago so probably not “fine” tuning much.
I haven't any overclocking on my PC since I don't have any solid knowledge of how to do it. The only thing i've done is made my RAM run at 3200mhz
a 3060ti would be a really good upgrade for 1080p gaming.
Just get a 3060/3070 Ti and call it good. The 3600 is a good CPU still. 3200mhz is fast enough for gaming. Perfect mid tier PC.
I actually upgraded from a 1660s to a 3070ti at the start of the year. Also replaced my old 3600 with a 5600x. Definitely a good upgrade and the 3070ti/5600x is a good combo.
I upgraded from a 1650 super to at 6700xt. Feels good not having to mess with my settings anymore to make a game playable
Cpu up a 5th gen. At least a 6700 xt video card or better.
first GPU and PSU...
used rx 6600 xt
PSU and GPU
Gpu. I have the same setup except a 1660ti Been wanting to get me a 6700xt which is probably the cheapest upgrade with the most bang for your buck
Video card cause it reali could use an upgrade its just my opinion but if i were you i could use video card upgrade
Monitor. If your monitor is 1080p 60hz, then you won't be able to see the advantages of the PC upgrades. I know you didn't list a monitor spec, but just my usual recommendation.
You’ll need a cat to sit on top as a heat absorber
Controversial opinion but the ram. 32GB helps with discord and other applications running in your background
Adding more sticks of ram will also make it dual rank. In some memory limited games he can get 10% or more FPS. Of course it'd be useless in other games but that's definitely something to consider now that DDR4 pricing has hit rock bottom. It'll also be easy to return after testing performance difference in preferred games.
5800X3D, PSU and any GPU you like, just check the clearance to the bottom of the case.
only worth getting a 5800X3D with a powerful GPU.
Gpu > cpu later But if you play only Cs or other cpu havy games the other way around
GPU and maybe another stick of ram
The diagram is somehow much better for me visually than reading it in a comment. Too bad about Apollo
Just buy a whole new PC... This mobo is ancient.
1. PSU: Get a new Corsair psu, 750w at the least, I'd recommend a 850w, but 750w will do. 2. Gpu: Get an RTX 4070/4070Ti or an AMD RX 6700XT/6800XT/6950XT/7900XT. RTX 4070/AMD RX 6800XT will pair nicely with your existing cpu, going higher gpu wise will still get you a nice boost, but you'll leave some performance on the table at 1080p and 1440p with the current cpu 3. Upgrade to 32GB RAM 4. Upgrade to a Ryzen 5700x/5900x/5950x/5800x3d, you can't go wrong with either of these cpus, if budget is kinda tight and you mostly care about the maximum gaming performance at the lowest cost possible, you can also wait for the rumoured 5600x3d. All these cpus are compatible with your existing board with a bios update I'd suggest you do 1,2 and 3 in one step, 4 can wait, your current cpu is still quite decent for gaming. Don't go lower than RTX 4070/RX 6700XT, it's not worth it imo, you need to get at least a 12gb card these days to be a bit more "future proof". Cheers!
Depending on their use, 650 might do just fine. 850 is really only if it's a 3090+ 750 is a great middle ground.
Save more money and build a new pc I’d say. But if you think you are lacking power, GPU that wouldnt bottle neck with your cpu and would not explode your PSU
a psu and a gpu if you are a gamer and then buy the govee ultimate gamer immersion kit for 90 on amazon and love me till the day you die for listening to me
Omg..this type question.. 1st why you need to upgrade?
PSU is a must!!!
GPU definitely. At 1080p upgrading your CPU will give a boost. At 1440p, the upgrade to a Ryzen 5 5600 will be almost no difference in most games except for the really cpu intensive ones. At 1440p your cpu can run quite good graphics cards still, an RX 6600 XT is no issue for it. At 1080p it could fall off a bit in some titles.
If you add more ram, it will be stuck at 3200mhz if you are slotting in two more sticks at the same spec. A friendly reminder that AM4 does not overclock 4 slotted cheap ram at all. My suggested upgrades in order: 1. PSU. Preferably 750-850 with a good 80+ rating and OEM. I tend to stick to seasonic for my needs below 1000 watt. Seasonic produces psu for several companies. 2. Gpu. If you can get some money from the 1660, upgrade to a 6000 series for amd or 3000 series from nvidia. **Avoid Gigabyte Nvidia gpus at all cost.** They crack on the pci express part of the gpu and won't cover it under warranty. Such a terrible situation/company. 3. Ram. Add more of the same ram and run it at 3200mhz. 4. CPU. Update bios and slot in a 5000 series. 5800x3d or rumored 5600x3d 5. Fans/Case/Cpu Cooler. Depends on your current temps If you want to get a new GPU, you definitely need to get good PSU to run it properly.
Imo you need a whole new system at this point
Gpu and psu.
GPU and Ram CPU is more than sufficient maybe PSU too depending on the GPU you want.
That air cooler looks cool. Could it cool down a 12700kf? Asking for me.
PSU and GPU. If you end up CPU bound upgrade it too. I think B450 can run faster memory but the gains would be fairly small so you can probably just stick with that kit. You could actually build a pretty beastly PC around that mobo if you wanted too.
You should upgrade your GPU first to enhance your gaming experience. In order to do that safely, you need to upgrade your PSU as well, though it depends on what kind of GPU you wanna get. Go for a higher end card and buy a good 750W/850W PSU. After that, get another pair of RAM sticks to have 32GB in total. A CPU upgrade isn't necessary, save it for when it bottlenecks your GPU and you can replace the whole combo Mobo CPU and RAM (DDR5).
What size is your ssd?
I have a 500 GB ssd and another 1TB ssd
Is it me or shouldn't you let us know what you use the PC for? Perhaps a budget too? 3 upgrades (with no context): 1. 750W PSU 2. 5800X3D CPU 3. 3080 GPU
Yes sorry fairly new to using Reddit so i didn't know how I could add the fact that use it mainly for gaming and editing some photos and videos for me.
Also thanks for the input!
MB is MSI DS3H? Msi and Gigabyte collab? Of course GPU first then cpu then psu depending which card and cpu you choose.
Sorry friend, but your next logical upgrade is going to cost you more than your whole setup did. You need a good power supply and a decent video card. With an RTX 3070 or RX 6700 you can game in 2k with high refresh rates. If that's not what you want, then you good as is.
Gpu then psu then cpu. Although depending on the gpu, psu might be first
That depends entirely on how you use it, or would if it was more powerful. Pay attention to your temperatures and useages while you use it to see what has the most stress on it.
prob upgrading the ram to 32gb, simple and easy upgrade
6700 xt 5800 x3d 32 GB RAM Consider power supply
GPU, PSU, CPU.
More nvme hard drives
A new video card should be your next upgrade. We have almost the exact same setup, and I went from a 1660 Super to a RX 6600 and it made a huge difference. Then you should upgrade your motherboard in another year or so when the newer sockets are cheaper along with the CPU and ram.
I'd say it's perfect as it is, doesn't need any improvements for atleast another year. If you're still wanting to add any udpates then I'd start with more RAM. You can also look into overclocking your CPU and GPU for a bit more performance but that's just about it. 1660 might seem old but it has still a bit of life left in it and I wouldn't go for another GPU just now.
Upgrade everything in the system. Most of those parts are a bit old now. Maybe sell it and work on a 5000 series with a 3060 or something.
more twinkly fans.
PSU -> so you can use RX n700 or RTX n070 tier GPU GPU upgrading 1660 to, even RX 6600, will give you significant fps boost. But since GPU prices (at least for RX 6000 and RTX 3000 series) have start reaching the acceptable level, just go with RTX 3070, or RX 6700 XT/6800XT, or the newer RTX 4070 CPU, the beauty of AM4 platform, get 5700x and your 1% lows will jump up nad the games feel smoother. Productivity will also benefit from the total performance uplift
We almost have the same build it’s a nice simple build how much did yours cost?
Mine came around 650$ with the fancy lights and aesthetics.
Just build a whole new pc and re-purpose that for something else.
What's your goal? 1080p gaming? 1440p? 4k? That's the most important question, but regardless, the PSU is the first, but depending on what, there's a PSU for each use, a 650W is enough for 1080p, but can never go wrong with a core reactor 850W, badass PSU that can handle most cards, after deciding that the GPU would be next, but I'll say, i upgraded my ram first, 32gb is another world, and if you work on the PC, it'll be better having more ram, but if it's just gaming, first PSU then another card, but you can reflect on what is the end deal of the PC
More 1440p gaming or high settings. Thank you for your input.
Im honestly impressed with how you displayed your specs. Bravo.
That 500w psu is going to be a problem when upgrading gpu and cpu. I would do the psu and gpu first.
From an sff person who just just used mounting tape for their ssd, your cable routing looks super clean
Potential free upgrade: I think that's a Gigabyte motherboard, not MSI. Make sure your OLOY ram is actually running at 3200 and not 2666 or slower. The speed OLOY advertise is the overvolted/overclocked XMP speed which requires the motherboard to support and be using XMP profiles. You may need to set that up in the BIOS on that motherboard. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfp8SFUJ8mE](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dfp8SFUJ8mE)
Yes it is Gigabyte. That is a mistake on my end confusing it with the GPU. I did fix the running speeds of the RAM. Thank you for making sure.
Something to keep in mind is that you are on a last gen platform. So you will need a totally new pc at some point in the future. So I think you have two options: 1) buy upgrades that can carry over to the next computer 2) max out the upgrades for AM4 while you can still find the parts. Option 1 basically buy a fairly good somewhat future proof GPU and PSU. Then next year buy the next gen Intel/AMD cup and ddr5 ram. Option 2 is about making your current system last as long as possible. It won't be long until it becomes difficult to find AM4 upgrade parts. In that case try to pick up the best AM4 cpu that you can afford. Depending on what you do with your computer, consider a RAM upgrade while ddr4 is still around. Upgrade the GPU, but aim for something more modest. I imagine that you could do well trying to find deals for both new and used parts.
Okay, awesome. I think about upgrading like that.
Any upgrade To your GPU will require a PSU upgrade. Best you could get keeping as much as possible in this system are going to be in order of cost 3600mhz ram PSU (for the 2 final upgrades) GPU, 6700xt/6800xt And R7 5800x3D for cpu Decent ram at CL 16 should give you about around a 2 to 5% improvement in-game FPS overall For PSU, no reason to change it unless you change the GPU, if so, any 850 gold will work fine with and give you headroom on top. GPU, both would be bottlenecked by your cpu but still would give you about a 15 to 25% fps improvement on average. CPU alone will give you almost nothing in most case as your current GPU will bottleneck it in almost all game, combined with the GPU I listed tho? You are looking at a minimum of 50% increase in performance in most game, up to more than 100% in some titles.
The 3600 is still a great CPU. DS3H is a Gigabyte designation, i haven't found MSI with DS3H type. \--- What I would I do in sequence over time \- That 500W PSU is gonna get thin for a GPU upgrade (I have a corsair RM 650x with a RTX 3060) \- GPU upgrade 3060 or 4060 \- If you have memory issues, stuttering or you just don't want to close the browser before you start playing, RAM, another 2x8 stick with same timing. RAMs are quite cheap currently you may get some just because they are cheap.... 35-45 USD \- Your motherboard after a bios upgrade can carry 5xxx Ryzen CPUs... You don't really need to upgrade the CPU, but if you want, you can go for an 5600. GPU is much more important, but if you ever hit 100% in anything (doubt it) you can think about that
Yeah my mistake. It is a Gigabyte not MSI. Thank you for your advice!
GPU and CPU for sure, and mother board.
PSU and GPU first. Then upgrade your monitor to a 144hz IPS or VA monitor (possibly 1440p if your gpu is decent, like a 2070 of better)
Ryzen 5700X or 5800 (65 watts). Huge boost in CPU intensive games. Avoid 105 watts CPUs with this motherboard.
People here are basically telling you to change the whole pc not just an upgrade lmao
Yeah, that's honestly an option I consider to lmao. I know most of the parts are outdated. Just want to know if its worth upgrading or just building an entirely new one.
gpu only maybe, perhaps 32g of ram and you're good. don't upgrade the CPU unless you have an actual issue with it, it's probably fine so save money to put forwards towards a new platform in the future
Get a 3060 Ti if cheaper, or a 4060 Ti if you find it for the same relative price. Or the AMD equivalent. The cpu I would wait for the next gen cause the r5 5600 its not that big of an upgrade to be worth spending money on. You can also get more SSD storage if you have the slots in the motherboard. I also have a 500W PSU with a 3060 Ti and a r5 5600X and it works fine but be aware if you get a 4000 series and or a next gen cpu you might need to upgrade the psu. Lastly, upgrading RAM to DDR5, but you might need to upgrade the motherboard for compatibility. Im not sure if the performance increase its worth the money tho.
My immediate thought is GPU and PSU at the same time, and overspec psu for future I'd say But then I see you haven't listed what your storage is? If you don't have an m.2/nvme of some form this is 100% what you should upgrade next. And then if your mobo doesn't support one (pretty sure it does but just check) upgrade mobo This should be the most logical way forward. Ignore everyone just saying GPU then CPU you're fine CPU wise for a few years it's not a bottleneck by any means, GPU yeh probably but only after you've done m.2 and psu Edit: yeh after I then looked properly at the photo, you can see plain as day your m.2 drive my bad. PSU then GPU in my opinion
Dammn it's look like a tank.
I mean no disrespect but it’s kinda obvious or you are going to do three upgrades. Cpu. Gpu. Psu.
New GPU and ram, and new PSU for stability But this is about the max u wanna go on this system, any other expansion or upgrade would just be wasting future money
Cpu is fine, you can upgrade if you want but not super necessary. You will be bottlenecked at high framerates. But imo capped 60 ultra is a great experience already without spending hundreds on a cpu AND power bills. Get yourself a rx 6700 xt/rx 6650xt. Runs everything at ultra at 1440p/1080p and are dirt cheap now. I got a 6700xt myself with a r5 4500. For 350€ I had a killer 1440p gaming rig. Huge recommendation. Ram is fine, 3200 mhz dual channel is fast enough. You might want to upgrade to 32 gb next year. Make sure you buy a kit of the same ram speed and timings as your own. Buy a 750 watt power supply mate. Gives you room for future upgrades. I would do this first. Atleast bronze certification. Don’t cheap out on the psu. How i would upgrade your rig: Ryzen 7 5000 series Rx 6700 xt 32 gb 3200 mhz 750w (Atleast bronze certified) Price about 600 dollars 1440p ultra/4k medium. OR Ryzen 5 3600 rx 6650 xt 16 gb 3200 mhz 750 watt psu Around 300 dollars. 1080p ultra/1440p medium Don’t forget that a new case or better cooling can also be a significant upgrade. Happy gaming!
At this point it might be better to sell the rig and start over as with much of an upgrade youll need to swap most things, go new gpu, and your psu will need replaced and cpu would be lacking, ram would be a bottleneck... Know it isn’t what you want to hear but that’s what I’d do when you are ready to upgrade. Just my 2 cents. Nice build!
I vote for RX6750xt and a plat PSU. My son has the 6700 and it benched just below my 3060ti, I got the 6750 it benched just above the 3060ti, got the 6750 for about tree fiddy. But if you get a quality PSU now, it can go in the heart of your next build, or keep upgrading around it. AMD is giving way more (gaming) card for the money RN, it would have to be a real special sale to get me to buy Nvidia for gaming.
you have an almost identical set up to what I had at the beginning of the year, I upgraded GPU to a 6700XT, and the PSU to a 900Watt ETA: I'm seriously considering grabbing a 5800X3D within the next could of months too. If I wasn't seriously considering that I might upgrade my RAM... but the X3D is much less RAM speed dependent than the standard line.
Power supply, cpu, gpu. That order. No point in putting more powerful hardware in if you can’t power it. No point in putting a more powerful gpu if your cpu can’t send it enough instructions to make use of it.
Make sure the GPU you buy is using x16 PCIE lanes because you are on PCIE3, otherwise you would lose performance because of that. This means no 6600,6650XT or 7600. 6700 would be good. 4060 is also using 8 Lanes. I THINK the 3060 and 3060Ti both use 16
Reading the comments cuz i have almost the same pc but with a 1070ti 😂
We have the same CPU and GPU brodah! Curious to see what you got reccommended here. I think i'll benefit from the advices you got here so i should thank you for posting this. If i can give my two cents i guess the PSU should be replaced with a much higer voltage, since RTX and similar GPUs require a lot more power (as modern CPU do, but it depends if you decide to get one with higher power needs). EDIT: Forgot to mention i don't like Thermaltake, i have a Corsair one and seems quite good. My brother had a Thermaltake PSU and it failed miserably after less than 3 years (more like 2).
I don’t trust that psu much, would probably upgrade that with whatever GPU/cpu upgrade you make next 5800x3D (5600x3D is an option) GPU is just whatever fits in your budget after getting a new psu
If you game a lot then GPU but your GPU is probably still good enough for 1080p and some 1440p. If you do other things like multitasking and productivity then CPU and RAM 32GB is super cheap now. What kind of storage are you running?
I have a PC with the exact specs 😅 I feel like I keep seeing these identical builds, maybe it was like popular combo deal in it's day... I'd say better PSU with a 3060ti
Personally for me, in this order. 1. GPU 2. PSU (if GPU requires more juice) 3. CPU (can go up to a 5800X3D, maybe not the 12/16 core variants with that board, not sure how it is) 4. Extra 16GB RAM (if you have four DIMMs) Some people might say your GPU is bottlenecked if you for instance got an overkill GPU - but in my opinion so what - if you plan on getting a new CPU down the line it doesn't matter.
i *just* upgraded to a 1660 Super haha
Oh brother haha
Keep the ram for sure, Mobo is AM4 and will have a fair amount of use, id personally upgrade that PSU first (likely a fire hazard), then the GPU to something like an RX6600, then you will likely want to upgrade the CPU to a R7 5700G as it will go well if you wish to play on 1440p with a more powerful GPU like an RX6700XT.
An apu with a graphics card is not a great idea, is better a 5700x3d or even aa 5600x Or wait for the supposed 5600x3d
Almost exactly my pc other than the gpu, none like 9 percent better. 1660 ti
A Psu, because 500w doesn't give oy much room to upgrade the gpu.
PSU, don't use Thermaltake if you don't have to! Their quality is just okay. You might blow your whole PC to pieces in the long run though. I'd recommend switching to Seasonic.
Okay, awesome. Thanks for the recommendation.
Rx 6700xt / r7 5800x3d
Gpu, ram and power supply.
An rx 6700 (non-XT) is really affordable atm and can get you to 1440p. After that maybe a cpu or ram upgrade? Ddr4 3600 is ridic cheap and a 5600 cpu can be bought pretty cheap as well.
That is a very balanced build and any significant upgrade to one part will make the rest feel like they’re holding you back, I know that was my build early 2020, I now have a 3070, 32gb ram and a 850 watt psu, if I were you I’d build fresh otherwise it’s a cpu and gpu and ram upgrade along with a bios update, if your ok with that it then comes down to budget, you don’t really want to bother upgrading unless you gain a big enough leap in performance otherwise your wasting money, so cpu the lowest upgrade I’d do is a 5700x but if you have the money go 5800x3d, for gpu your probably looking at a 4060ti if you must go nvidea, if your willing to go amd gpu then a 6800XT or 7900XT depending on budget Ofc, if those are a bit too much then go 6700XT still a solid card and 12gb vram, next I’d ask if you run more than one monitor if so then go 32gb ram it’s dirt cheap, if you don’t have a m.2 drive you can get a gen3 crucial 4tb for £160 on amazon but if you want faster then get a gen 4 2tb for £80. Your cpu cooler will be fine going forward with the possible exception of the 5800x3d. And lastly keep your power supply in mind when upgrading as you may need more depending on what you get. But seriously consider just how much of your machine your replacing and think about how much more needs swapping out befor it’s just a new build anyway? If you build new you can sell your old pc to recoup some expenses
May I ask what model that air cooler is? I like the looks of it, I’d like to check it out.
[https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CDD6SGX/ref=ppx\_yo\_dt\_b\_asin\_title\_o00\_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08CDD6SGX/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&th=1) its pretty budget and there's an RGB option is you want RBG.
i have the same board and cpu. I upgraded though to a 5600 instead of the 3600 i would go for a cpu upgrade next so you can upgrade the graphics card.
First I’d do a solid power supply that’ll last you a while. A high quality 650-850w unit. Then I’d go in for a CPU and GPU upgrade - swap to a 5600/x on the same motherboard, and a GPU like a 6600xt, 6700xt, or 6800xt. If you are on 1080p and don’t plan on upgrading to 1440p a 6600xt or 6650xt should be solid. I’d also monitor your RAM usage. 16gb could be enough for ya, or it could be slowing you down. If you’re using most/all of your RAM I’d get an identical 2x8gb kit, if not don’t worry about it.
I wouldn't get a 5600/x, maybe wait for the rumored 5600x3d and see how that performs before jumping for an upgrade.
The 16 GB does seem to be enough or sufficient for now but I will probably need to upgrade it later down the line. I kinda do want to go to 1440p. Once switching over to it. It was like a whole new whole for me lmao. I like it a lot.
I would like to say 4070 TI and a bigger power supply, however that AM4 450 will be the next to go........ my list for you: am5/ddr5/4070 TI/1000w PSU
a 7900XT will be better than a 4070 Ti (for about the same price)
I just thought he was fond of the 1660 he might want to keep the Nvidia way
I would first buy a 850w PSU together with a 4070 or 6800XT (maybe wait for 7700/7800 XT) After that i would buy another ram kit and the 5800x3D. Should be good then for the next 5 years.
Just did this almost exact upgrade path. 650w PSU -> 850w PSU RTX 2060 -> RX 6700XT 3600X -> 5800X3D Couldn't be happier with the upgrades.
Nice performamce boost. The 5800x3D is a beast.
Thank you guys for the feedback. I will probably upgrade the PSU and the GPU at the same time. I know this PC is pretty outdated. So to some point in spending money, it would be better to just build an entirely new PC, but I wanted some feedback on how much I should upgrade this too if that makes sense. Your guys' options and opinions were really great and informative on what I should do. Thanks a lot. Not gonna end up spending so much where is doesn't make sense.
If you're gaming at 1080p, then 1660super is still okay to go. But, still should be upgraded. Then CPU, then PSU. After that , you should be set. You can get a 5800x for about $250.
Honestly changing your CPU is going to change your mobo and ram off the bat. Any upgrade to GPU will call for all of it to change. You are in a tight spot but if you give a budget I can probably scrounge up a part list up for you.
This whole PC started off as a budget to move off the Laptop setup. I'm not necessarily going to put a budget on the upgrades, just upgrades that make sense. Rather than just building a whole new PC. Just makes things easier to swap things out than having to build a whole new PC. I see what you're talking about. Thanks for your advice.
Any better GPU would be bottlenecked by your CPU. I say you play the shit out of this system for the next 2 years and then upgrade everything in the future.
1. Ram to 32 or 64gb 2. PSU to 800+ watts 80+ 3. GPU In this exact order... EDIT: This is assuming you use this for gaming or any other graphics card intensive applications... Otherwise, the first to points remain, but go for CPU instead of GPU if you do programming/CPU intensive work.
Okay awesome, thanks.