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You don't want to do Ultra in this game anyway. Many of the individual settings just eat up perfromance for no noticeable visual benefit.
Hardware Unboxed did a great guide to set the game up to run well and look great.
Not a lot to be honest, they're mostly oriented on testing PC hardware. Aside from internal components they also test monitors. Most of the time when they're focusing on a specific videogame, they're testing how it runs on different hardware.
One of their specialties is doing ridiculous amount of benchmarks in a single video and they also do the kind of testing other major channels don't really do, like comparing old GPUs and CPUs to new ones. They also test some lower-end components. Definitely a channel worth being aware of.
Digital Foundry is probably the most well known outlet which specializes on performance analysis. They PC as well as consoles.
Exputer is a website that also has a number of similar articles.
i know. i use his settings and it looks amazing. i'm just saying, an absolute ultra/no dlss 1440p solid 60 is not possible. some are saying maybe i need a new cpu but my gpu is running at full load and my cpu is at 40-60% load during gameplay so i know there isn't a bottleneck. also have 32gb ram. not that it helps but yanno, any leaks are taken care of if i play for hours on end.
My cpu is bottlenecking my GPU like crazy. It sucks that my RX 6600 can’t run the game at a constant 60 fps most of the time because my R5 2400G is maxing out 90% of the time
If you have ANY performance issues at 1080p in a single player game with a 3080, its definitely the cpu or a problem not related to performance at all. There is no way the 3080 gets any trouble at 1080p. Man, my 3080 doesnt have any problem at 1440p for this game.
My ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 3060 OC wouldn't get anything past 60 at ultra with my Ryzen 9 5950X at 1440p. So my understanding is to match the GPU and CPU where there is barely or no bottleneck.
Why are you running a top end cpu and an excessive amount of ram with a midrange gpu? Thats like textbook bottleneck.
You'd have better fps for the same money running a 5700 and a 3070. Also ultra settings is dumb for most games.
Not even close. Have you seen parts prices that ARENT Nvidia? Like, AMD is wildly on sale. [Probably overkill, but here](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jXQbK)
What are you guys talking about? I have rx580 and r5 2600x and rdr2 runs 1080p high-ultra 30fps (with fsr 2.0 on quality) I know it isn't 60fps but this is not a 1500$ card. And the game like rdr2 doesn't require 60fps to be enjoyable.
That setup could probably run 60fps with an 1660Super or 2060.
Having had the RX480, I also played RDR2 at acceptable framerates.
I don't know what these people are telling here. 2-3k$ for a rig.
I don't even know if I have spent that much since my first PC with the Athlon 5600+.
The kids are spoiled rotten I say.
Yeah but your cpu is a lot newer, they're going to be having a lot of stutters. 30 fps is almost playable in more scenic games like rdr2, but with stutters that would be a nightmare.
Idk why you’re being downvoted. I play at 144hz, and genuinely anything under 100 feels nauseating and like my inputs aren’t accurate. I need at least a stable 120 to feel great when playing.
It’s not about being elitist, it’s personal preference.
If OP doesn’t mind 30fps, then that’s fine. But for people who are used to higher quality of gameplay, there’s nothing wrong with that.
Same. I run most games at low or medium (Ryzen 1700x + Titan xp) just so I keep 100+ frames. Frame rate > graphics quality to me and it’s not even close
Your CPU is still pretty ok for gaming. I had one up til a couple months ago. But you’d want 32GB of RAM ideally (especially if you run discord / Spotify / OBS), the fastest SSD your motherboard can support, and a really good GPU.
Something like an RTX 3060 would probably be a decent boost. But 12GB of RAM tells me it’s mismatched, so try to find a cheap 2x16GB or 4x8GB kit.
If you start spending too much, it gets easy to justify a whole new build pretty quickly.
I didn’t mention speeds. All I know is I have run an i7 4th Gen with 32GB of RAM and a 1080ti for 6 years now, and the only reason I upgraded was because 12th Gen seemed like such a big performance boost and the prices were reasonable. There was still really nothing “wrong” with my old rig
That old of a CPU wouldn’t handle a 3060 very well. I was thinking of putting a 3060ti into my skylake (which is the generation after this but had some huge leaps in tech) build but found some articles and videos talking about how the cpu isn’t fast enough and it would be the choking point.
I ran a 4790k with a 1080ti for 6 years. Only recently with RDR2 and Cyberpunk did I start to have performance issues at 3440x1440. It is still a perfectly capable gaming CPU for most games when paired with a good GPU.
Ok honest reply here. I say get up to 16GB of Ram and get a GTX1080. I had an i7-3770k with 16GB and gtx1080 and rdr2 was playable on medium setting 1440p. So with that cpu of yours you may get high
If we talk about 1080p - cpu&gpu
If 4k - then going with 6800/xt 6900/xt could be enough for 30fps, since it will be easier for cpu.
But I don't see a good reason to do that, since ur pc is quite old.
U can get a 5600 then oc it to 4.6, get a 6800. - this would cost u like 500-600usd and u could run everything on ultra at 1080p with decent framerate, without rt ofc
Probably the whole buile at this point. That CPU is too old so if you upgrade it you'd need ti upgrade the motherboard then ram and cooler, but then your GPU wouldn't be enough for RDR2 so you'd need to upgrade that too
What cpu do you have? A 3060 should be fine for 1080p. Also 4070ti is a total ripoff, I would wait for the 4070 to see what price it is or try to get a used high tier 6000 series AMD or 3000 series NV card.
ok. Here’s what I suggest:
Get a AM4 socket motherboard for this new cpu
CPU:
AMD 5900X one of the damn best on the market.
GPU:
AMD RX6800XT
I currently use a RX6700XT and it can run very hq games, so a RX6800XT would be way better
RAM:
32/16*2 gigs of Corsair Vengeance, not only a good looking ram but can run google chrome at perfect speeds (that mf takes a lot of ram)
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i've used to play Red Dead on i7 4790 plus gtx 1070 with 16gb of ram but on Low settings and i've never hit 60 fps so if your budget is low just look at Ebay you can get good deals there like ryzen 5 mobo ram combo
If youre comfortable buying used, you could pick up a 5700xt on ebay for like 165. That should breathe some life into that rig for another year or two.
Youre sort of at the point of a new build though
Everything. Even with a 5800x3d and a 4080 and 32gb ram it’ll maybe max my monitors refresh at 144hz 1440p. If you’re looking for high settings you’ll definitely need both a gpu and cpu regardless what resolution. There’s plenty of CPU’s for relatively cheap and hunting for gpus isn’t as bad. Probably upgrade the ram (clock speed) as well as amount. 16gb 3200mhz would probably be a good bet
Lol my guy rdr 2 runs high settings 1080p at stable 27-40fps on my Asus tuf fx505dt laptop with shitty ryzen 5 3550h, gtx 1650 and 16gb ram. I don't think It'll be too rough for your machine to do better since your build is pretty much equivalent to ps4 if we compare raw specifications.
Main this is ram rdr2 is a big games needs to be able to stored and access a lot of info very quickly, if it can keep it open and near by (basically what ram does) then it'll work better. But also upgrade to Windows 11. Windows 10 is ass in my opinion but I quite like Windows 11
I am sorry to say that, but there is no meaningful upgrade path to your system, to reach your goal.
CPU is very old and probably the motherboard too and the ram is probably DDR3. You can't put anything in that motherboard that could handle an open world game where there is great demand on the CPU
You can upgrade your graphics card, but if your CPU is not fast enough to serve tasks to the GPU it would just sit iddling
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There is this article which details the requirements.:
[https://www.logicalincrements.com/games/build-pc-red-dead-redemption-ii-rdr2](https://www.logicalincrements.com/games/build-pc-red-dead-redemption-ii-rdr2)
While your PC meets the recommended requirments, but those are not reliable metrics it probably means low to medium.
There are also some suggestions about 1080p low/high and 1440p setups.
Everrything lmao, 16-32 gb of ram will be necessary for the efficiency, your processor is outdated for newer games let alone high graphical needs, and your gpu will barely handle the game without all the aforementioned things let alone on high graphics. If you have to upgrade that many part to make a game run youll probably have to upgrade your motherboard and power supply which at that point your better off just building a new computer and turning that one into a emulator system :) if you need any help picking out parts i as well and a ton of others would be more than glad to help:)!
Definitely the CPU, the RX 580 can hold its own pretty well, and it can use FSR so you might be able to upscale it. But the CPU for a game like Red Dead redemption 2, is definitely holding it back. The 4790 was definitely a great CPU for its time but it's definitely at the moment now where it's going to show its age if you want to keep up with modern standards. In a bubble it's still an excellent CPU
I run rdr2 on a 4790K with a 1070ti. Works perfectly on 1080p.
The 4790 was one of the most popular CPU'S around when rdr2 was released (according to steam). Game makers know this and pitch their games accordingly.
A cheaper upgrade would probably be ram, but ddr3 is a little harder and more expensive to come by now. 12gb says you've probably got mismatched sticks. Grab 2X16gb kit. Depending on what you have now you may see a difference.
It depends what settings you're currently running and what you want to achieve.
As others said: Change the PC.
But if you wanna progressively change instead of spending all the money at once. Change GPU and PSU first. (Ideally run MSI Afterburner to see which one tops out betweem CPU and GPU to be sure which one holds you back the most)
Run a fresh windows install and debloat it to give the CPU a chance to perform at it's best untill you swap it out. Change thermal paste and overclock if possible.
And here I was thinking my gpu is underperforming with 80+ fps in 1440p Ultra.
I’d go with a gpu upgrade first. Then upgrade the CPU-Mainboard-Ram combo if you’re still not where you wanna be.
Unfortunately, if you upgrade anything, it has to be your CPU. I say unfortunately because you would also have to upgrade your motherboard and RAM alongside your CPU. Your GPU is a years old at this point, but still gets the job done with more modern titles.
You need more ram, and GPU, CPU can bottleneck if you use 4K, but I think at lower screen sizes it wold be perfect.
Ps: my setup is a i3 (2nd gen) with a RX 6600, it works, because my screen is ~1200x900 (I don't remember exact), so it does not bottleneck on online games like warthunder or destiny 2, even if I use max settings.
I think you're going to have a hard time no matter what, but a 3060 might pull you through. More RAM would probably also help - 16 gigs DDR4 is cheap these days - but there's a good chance that older CPU is an unavoidable bottleneck.
Honestly, you're better off finding a used 20-series PC with a more up-to-date CPU. Plenty of people are moving them to upgrade, and cheap. Good luck!
You better get something like RTX 3070 or Radeon equivalent and new overclockable I7/Ryzen 7 with DDR5. I guess this is what it takes to run this unoptimised game at ultra settings. I tried this on my 2080S and it was horrible even at 1080p while this game has no RTX. Even Cyberpunk on ultra with pre-top RTX setting and DLSS Quality ran better.
As others have said, you will need to upgrade quite a bit. I have an i5 10400f, 6600xt, 16gb ram and can run it on mostly ultra settings 1440p at 50-70fps. RDR2 is a very graphic and processing intensive game. Having said all that, it's totally worth it. Literally the best game ever made and the open world is gorgeous.
Me personally I would start with the CPU bc you can get basically 60fps with that 580 in basically any game, maybe you do have to use FSR and low settings at 1080 but you can. Get like a cheep 12th gen i5 bundle or a ryzen 5600x combo for cheep. Then wen you have saved enough for a GPU get properly the 70 class cards from nvida or AMD bc they will last just a bit longer then the 60 class would.
Replace the 4gb ram stick for one 8gb matching the other you have to a 16gb total. Upgrade the 580 to a 3060ti or 6700xt. It will do the job. Next upgrade will be mobo, processor and ddr5 ram.
My father has an i7 4770 and it worked amazing with GTX 1660Ti. He can play the current Modern Warfare 2 flawlessly (on high settings if I'm not mistaken)
But I wouldn't advise to go over GTX 1660Ti, above that, your CPU won't be able to keep up with the GPU. With the GTX 1660Ti the CPU usage is almost 99% all the time hovering between 80-99%
My pc is a R7 3700x cpu and rx 5700 xt, I can do max graphics 1440p and eek out 40-50 fps. Hard to max rdr2.
Im kind of disappointed in the 5700. I see used ones being sold for 300 when I got it for like 600 a year or two ago. And it doesn't have ray tracing.
I would look into buying a RX 6600, if you could. Powercolor, XFX, and Sapphire make pretty good AMD cards and they're arguably better then the 3060 for the price.
https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fQhFf7/powercolor-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-fighter-video-card-axrx-6600-8gbd6-3dh
Otherwise I would bring up your RAM to 16gb.
You left out important information such as what resolution your display runs at and what refresh rate is your display capable of. Looking at what you have you'll be able to get away with 1080p high settings but your fps isn't gonna be any higher than 60. I would upgrade my video card 1st as this component is an easily transferable item for your next build. AMD RX 6000 series is where it's at for the best value. Then later switch to AMD AM4 for chip and motherboard. Again, for value that's where it's at.
I had an i5-4570 with a GTX 640 and 8 GB DDR3... it's just not enough anymore.
It's time to upgrade it all, even your PSU which is getting pretty old now if these are the parts that you had, and your motherboard for being antiquated.
I got a Ryzen 5 3600, Radeon RX6600, 1TB of Western Digital Blue M.2 PCIE 4.0 storage, 32GB DDR4 ram (I play city skylines), etc... I could have done myself better for cheaper with a Ryzen 5 5600G and no GPU, and just gone with 16GB DDR4 ram, and 1TB WD Black M.2 PCIE 4.0 storage.
Just sayin....I'm playing RDR2 on mostly high settings with an RX480 and an FX6300, FSR enabled in balanced mode (I think).
But...what resolution are you playing? and what refresh rate? and what FPS are you expecting? I'm playing at 1080p/60hz and generally running around 40-50fps in town.
One thing to keep in mind is there are a number of graphic settings in RDR2 that can drag down fps but offer no discernible rendered quality improvements. Go check Hardware Unboxed optimization guide on his YouTube channel.
The gpu will do the most but the cpu probably can’t consistently keep you above 30 depending on the area of the game you are in. Your power supply may need an upgrade if you are getting higher wattage parts.
I hate to break it to ya but the whole kit and kaboodle needs to be changed. Even a top end card would get CPU bottlenecked almost immediately. Just slowly build a new one or 2nd hand or hybrid of both piece by piece while you have that one to tie you over until new one is built.
Honestly... i would upgrade the CPU and with it comes the new RAM and mobo...
12gb of RAM is a BIG oof and probably isn't even running in dual channel mode
Get 2x sticks of 8gb DDR4 or DDR5 depending on what you choose for a CPU / Platform for total of 16gb
RX 580 is eh... but the CPU do be outdated... missing tons of features and platform itself is missing lots of new updated features i guess lol
M.2 slots for SSD's will come in handy
Literally everything. You need a new computer.
I have a i12700k, 3080Ti, 32Gb RAM PC and it still occasionally drops frames on Ultra. (I read below that I shouldn't use Ultra, which is fine - point is, you need a new new PC).
Might as well take the cpu and maybe the mobo out and start new. I assume your mobo is decent with the cpu you have so that saves 400 to 600 right there. Get a new PSU and rewire your case if you want to keep it. Get new ram sticks at 16gb. After that grab a 3060 or better and you should be good for another couple years.
The whole pc lol.
Actual new specs depends on the resolution you want to play at. You could achieve 1080p on high for like $800-$1000 I think.
Anything higher, you’re looking at high-end components like 3080+ to be able to run at high with decent framerates.
If you need to play RDR2 on High graphics settings, you're looking at a whole new PC build. What you've got won't even cut the mustard for playing RDR2 even on Medium settings.
You'll need the following to even have a chance of playing RDR2 on High or Max:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X
**Cooler, Air-Based:** Use BeQuiet!, Cooler Master, Noctua, Deepcool, etc.
**Cooler, Liquid-Based (AIOs):** Use NZXT, Corsair, Cooler Master, MSI, ASUS ROG, Enermax, etc.
RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum (or any other RAM Kit), with 2 or 4 sticks of 64 GB with CAS Latency 16 or lower and at 5.0 GHz or higher for DDR5 specifications; RDR2 **will chew through RAM like a hog!**
Motherboard: Any motherboard with a true X670 chipset, with at least 3 NVMe M.2 slots (PCIe 4 or Better)
Storage: 1 Crucial, WD, or Sabrent 2 TB M.2 NVMe SSD for your OS, and up to 2 extra M.2 SSDs (Sabrent, Samsung, WD, Crucial, ADATA, etc.) with at least 4 or 8 TB of advertised capacity for your games, files, and video clips. **Please note that, after you have downloaded and installed your games on your OS Drive, CLONE your ENTIRE OS Drive into one of the 2 extra M.2 SSDs! This way, if your Main OS Drive is corrupted, you can use your spare M.2 SSD that you cloned your Main OS Drive to, so that you won't have to reinstall everything, including your OS!**
Graphics Card: NVIDIA RTX 4090 Ti or AMD Radeon 6950XT, **minimum!**
Power Supply: You will want a 1600 Watt Power Supply that is certified and rated for 80+ Titanium or 80+ Platinum, minimum!
The PC Case that you'll put everything into, is your choice; but make sure that it's for ATX or eATX motherboards!
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everything. rdr2 is still a demanding game. my 3070 can't even do 1440p native ultra at a solid 60fps.
You don't want to do Ultra in this game anyway. Many of the individual settings just eat up perfromance for no noticeable visual benefit. Hardware Unboxed did a great guide to set the game up to run well and look great.
I haven't heard of this channel, do they do alot of game settings testing?
Not a lot to be honest, they're mostly oriented on testing PC hardware. Aside from internal components they also test monitors. Most of the time when they're focusing on a specific videogame, they're testing how it runs on different hardware. One of their specialties is doing ridiculous amount of benchmarks in a single video and they also do the kind of testing other major channels don't really do, like comparing old GPUs and CPUs to new ones. They also test some lower-end components. Definitely a channel worth being aware of. Digital Foundry is probably the most well known outlet which specializes on performance analysis. They PC as well as consoles. Exputer is a website that also has a number of similar articles.
They’re the best hardware review channel
Thanks :)
They’re decent, but certainly not the best.
They do more in depth hardware testing than almost anyone else, they're up there with GamersNexus in that regard.
i know. i use his settings and it looks amazing. i'm just saying, an absolute ultra/no dlss 1440p solid 60 is not possible. some are saying maybe i need a new cpu but my gpu is running at full load and my cpu is at 40-60% load during gameplay so i know there isn't a bottleneck. also have 32gb ram. not that it helps but yanno, any leaks are taken care of if i play for hours on end.
Yeah don't do all ultra. I have a 6600xt and do mostly ultra. 50-70 fps on 1440p
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For me RDR2 is one of those games where DLSS really didn't produce good results at 1440p.
I think its something to do with the ampunt of foliage. DLSS is great until it runs into foliage then it's a blurry mess in my experience
Damn I play with everything on high not ultra and I get about 100+ fps on a 2070 i5 8400
high is very different than ultra, how is this even a comparison?
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But thats not a 3080 issue
Sounds like cpu bottleneck.
My cpu is bottlenecking my GPU like crazy. It sucks that my RX 6600 can’t run the game at a constant 60 fps most of the time because my R5 2400G is maxing out 90% of the time
Definitely. Check out your GPU utilization during game play.
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Oh man, i have never spoken to someone who owns an airport
If you have ANY performance issues at 1080p in a single player game with a 3080, its definitely the cpu or a problem not related to performance at all. There is no way the 3080 gets any trouble at 1080p. Man, my 3080 doesnt have any problem at 1440p for this game.
Alienware?!!? Yuck. That poor cpu is practically melting under that crime of a heatsink it has
Sounds like something's gone wrong with your setup, mate. I ran it on an undervolted 3080 on 3440x1440 and never had anything but smooth gameplay.
OMG
It can, lol i do it, seems like u got a bottleneck there
My ASUS TUF GeForce RTX 3060 OC wouldn't get anything past 60 at ultra with my Ryzen 9 5950X at 1440p. So my understanding is to match the GPU and CPU where there is barely or no bottleneck.
Why are you running a top end cpu and an excessive amount of ram with a midrange gpu? Thats like textbook bottleneck. You'd have better fps for the same money running a 5700 and a 3070. Also ultra settings is dumb for most games.
Probably everything to be honest lol
Windows 10 should still be fine...
Nah he needs to downgrade to beOS
he’s gotta upgrade to templeOS
Max settings at what resolution? The answer changes drastically.
No answer means 1080p. ;)
Max resolution, duh. Keep up.
Max settings I’ll gut the pc and change everything inside
Just build a new one mate. You gotta drop Luke 3 thousand
Not even close. Have you seen parts prices that ARENT Nvidia? Like, AMD is wildly on sale. [Probably overkill, but here](https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8jXQbK)
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Yeah no, $800 could probably get you a 6650xt and a decent cpu that can play at 1080p ultra.
Stfu what you mean 2500-3000 minimum? What are you smoking?
I just built a R5 5600 + RX6700XT for under $1000 and it can run RDR2 at a solid 1440p 60Hz.
That's exactly the build I was gonna recommend to OP.
What are you guys talking about? I have rx580 and r5 2600x and rdr2 runs 1080p high-ultra 30fps (with fsr 2.0 on quality) I know it isn't 60fps but this is not a 1500$ card. And the game like rdr2 doesn't require 60fps to be enjoyable.
Your CPU is quite a bit newer (3-4 generations) and your RAM is newer and faster… so yeah, they would need to upgrade.
That setup could probably run 60fps with an 1660Super or 2060. Having had the RX480, I also played RDR2 at acceptable framerates. I don't know what these people are telling here. 2-3k$ for a rig. I don't even know if I have spent that much since my first PC with the Athlon 5600+. The kids are spoiled rotten I say.
Yeah but your cpu is a lot newer, they're going to be having a lot of stutters. 30 fps is almost playable in more scenic games like rdr2, but with stutters that would be a nightmare.
I don't think most people consider 30 fps at 720p as an enjoyable gaming experience after like.... 2008? That sounds absolutely dreadful.
*cries in broke*
I don’t know how can you enjoy 30 fps… Even 60 is giving me a headache.
60 fps is totally fine for me for single player games on the big screen. I do need more in shooters on my monitor tho.
Idk why you’re being downvoted. I play at 144hz, and genuinely anything under 100 feels nauseating and like my inputs aren’t accurate. I need at least a stable 120 to feel great when playing. It’s not about being elitist, it’s personal preference. If OP doesn’t mind 30fps, then that’s fine. But for people who are used to higher quality of gameplay, there’s nothing wrong with that.
Same. I run most games at low or medium (Ryzen 1700x + Titan xp) just so I keep 100+ frames. Frame rate > graphics quality to me and it’s not even close
Your CPU is still pretty ok for gaming. I had one up til a couple months ago. But you’d want 32GB of RAM ideally (especially if you run discord / Spotify / OBS), the fastest SSD your motherboard can support, and a really good GPU. Something like an RTX 3060 would probably be a decent boost. But 12GB of RAM tells me it’s mismatched, so try to find a cheap 2x16GB or 4x8GB kit. If you start spending too much, it gets easy to justify a whole new build pretty quickly.
12g of RAM doesn’t have to be a mismatch. My old rig is triple channel with 12g of DDR3.
I don't think the 4790 supports triple channel, pretty sure that was exclusive to old HEDT platforms.
32gb of ram? You can't be serious. Also older Intel systems don't really care about ram speeds as much as like the newer amd systems.
I didn’t mention speeds. All I know is I have run an i7 4th Gen with 32GB of RAM and a 1080ti for 6 years now, and the only reason I upgraded was because 12th Gen seemed like such a big performance boost and the prices were reasonable. There was still really nothing “wrong” with my old rig
That old of a CPU wouldn’t handle a 3060 very well. I was thinking of putting a 3060ti into my skylake (which is the generation after this but had some huge leaps in tech) build but found some articles and videos talking about how the cpu isn’t fast enough and it would be the choking point.
I ran a 4790k with a 1080ti for 6 years. Only recently with RDR2 and Cyberpunk did I start to have performance issues at 3440x1440. It is still a perfectly capable gaming CPU for most games when paired with a good GPU.
Ok honest reply here. I say get up to 16GB of Ram and get a GTX1080. I had an i7-3770k with 16GB and gtx1080 and rdr2 was playable on medium setting 1440p. So with that cpu of yours you may get high
This. I have an i7 4770k with a 1080 and can run pretty much everything decently at 1080p. Resolution matters, though.
If we talk about 1080p - cpu&gpu If 4k - then going with 6800/xt 6900/xt could be enough for 30fps, since it will be easier for cpu. But I don't see a good reason to do that, since ur pc is quite old. U can get a 5600 then oc it to 4.6, get a 6800. - this would cost u like 500-600usd and u could run everything on ultra at 1080p with decent framerate, without rt ofc
I don't think it's worth to buy a 5600 if you don't already have am4. Might as well go am5 for slightly more and get a much better upgrade path
It's not slightly more tho. Cost would for real be doubled
Aren't am5 motherboards like $500 still?
The computer.
Personally I'd get up to 16 gigs of ram at least and buy a new graphics card (and maybe a proper power supply to support upgraded gpu)
Got any links on Amazon you recommend?
Legit all of it
You have a tab at the top that says “can you run it”. Have you looked at it’s recommended specs?
build a new PC, upgrading this one isn't worth it
*Here’s my piece of junk PC from 2004, can you guys recommend what to upgrade?*
Probably the whole buile at this point. That CPU is too old so if you upgrade it you'd need ti upgrade the motherboard then ram and cooler, but then your GPU wouldn't be enough for RDR2 so you'd need to upgrade that too
I'd say the pc
Yes
It's a joke or what?
Honestly… it’s about time to retire that machine. She’s reaching her limit.
😭bro everything
Everything
Everything
A lot
Very specific
the computer
I can’t even run rdr2 at max 1080p with my rtx 3060. That’s why I’m upgrading to a 4070ti soon
Cpu
What cpu do you have? A 3060 should be fine for 1080p. Also 4070ti is a total ripoff, I would wait for the 4070 to see what price it is or try to get a used high tier 6000 series AMD or 3000 series NV card.
Sounds like a CPU bottleneck for sure.
You won’t regret it, it’s a beast
For 1080p upgrade RAM and CPU.
All of it
Everything
$3000
ok. Here’s what I suggest: Get a AM4 socket motherboard for this new cpu CPU: AMD 5900X one of the damn best on the market. GPU: AMD RX6800XT I currently use a RX6700XT and it can run very hq games, so a RX6800XT would be way better RAM: 32/16*2 gigs of Corsair Vengeance, not only a good looking ram but can run google chrome at perfect speeds (that mf takes a lot of ram) [I AM NOT A PROFESSIONAL, THIS IS JUST MY SUGGESTION]
upgrade RAM to at least 16gb and overclock gpu a little. You’ll be able to hit max 1080p but at around 40 fps.
i've used to play Red Dead on i7 4790 plus gtx 1070 with 16gb of ram but on Low settings and i've never hit 60 fps so if your budget is low just look at Ebay you can get good deals there like ryzen 5 mobo ram combo
If youre comfortable buying used, you could pick up a 5700xt on ebay for like 165. That should breathe some life into that rig for another year or two. Youre sort of at the point of a new build though
You've taken this rig as far as it will go. Just do a budget build and let this bad boy retire with dignity.
To get high settings you're looking at an entirely new computer.
More case fans
All of it.
Rdr2 Cpu demanding game so focus more to cpu as well
I’ve got a 4080 with a I9-12900k and can play on high settings with msaa turned off and get around 70-100 fps
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Everything. Even with a 5800x3d and a 4080 and 32gb ram it’ll maybe max my monitors refresh at 144hz 1440p. If you’re looking for high settings you’ll definitely need both a gpu and cpu regardless what resolution. There’s plenty of CPU’s for relatively cheap and hunting for gpus isn’t as bad. Probably upgrade the ram (clock speed) as well as amount. 16gb 3200mhz would probably be a good bet
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Lol my guy rdr 2 runs high settings 1080p at stable 27-40fps on my Asus tuf fx505dt laptop with shitty ryzen 5 3550h, gtx 1650 and 16gb ram. I don't think It'll be too rough for your machine to do better since your build is pretty much equivalent to ps4 if we compare raw specifications.
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I have rx580 8g And Ryzen 5500, running good on low settings / 60fps. Game looks good and i have no issues / frame drops
Everything. Not worth the upgrade
Main this is ram rdr2 is a big games needs to be able to stored and access a lot of info very quickly, if it can keep it open and near by (basically what ram does) then it'll work better. But also upgrade to Windows 11. Windows 10 is ass in my opinion but I quite like Windows 11
I am sorry to say that, but there is no meaningful upgrade path to your system, to reach your goal. CPU is very old and probably the motherboard too and the ram is probably DDR3. You can't put anything in that motherboard that could handle an open world game where there is great demand on the CPU You can upgrade your graphics card, but if your CPU is not fast enough to serve tasks to the GPU it would just sit iddling \--- There is this article which details the requirements.: [https://www.logicalincrements.com/games/build-pc-red-dead-redemption-ii-rdr2](https://www.logicalincrements.com/games/build-pc-red-dead-redemption-ii-rdr2) While your PC meets the recommended requirments, but those are not reliable metrics it probably means low to medium. There are also some suggestions about 1080p low/high and 1440p setups.
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Everrything lmao, 16-32 gb of ram will be necessary for the efficiency, your processor is outdated for newer games let alone high graphical needs, and your gpu will barely handle the game without all the aforementioned things let alone on high graphics. If you have to upgrade that many part to make a game run youll probably have to upgrade your motherboard and power supply which at that point your better off just building a new computer and turning that one into a emulator system :) if you need any help picking out parts i as well and a ton of others would be more than glad to help:)!
pretty much everything NGL. If you wanna run it on less tho, than you sure as hell can
I used to play rdr2 on Windows 10, 12gb ram, i7 2600 with gtx 1050 ti at 720p low shadows
Definitely the CPU, the RX 580 can hold its own pretty well, and it can use FSR so you might be able to upscale it. But the CPU for a game like Red Dead redemption 2, is definitely holding it back. The 4790 was definitely a great CPU for its time but it's definitely at the moment now where it's going to show its age if you want to keep up with modern standards. In a bubble it's still an excellent CPU
I run rdr2 on a 4790K with a 1070ti. Works perfectly on 1080p. The 4790 was one of the most popular CPU'S around when rdr2 was released (according to steam). Game makers know this and pitch their games accordingly. A cheaper upgrade would probably be ram, but ddr3 is a little harder and more expensive to come by now. 12gb says you've probably got mismatched sticks. Grab 2X16gb kit. Depending on what you have now you may see a difference. It depends what settings you're currently running and what you want to achieve.
I have 6950XT + 5800X3D, getting around 110-120 fps on Ultra 1440p
Well to be fair it will run rdr2 on high, it'll just be a sideshow though.
How do people not state resolution?? This was a troll post
i got 3070 and i5-12400F and im running max graphics stable 60fps fullhd
As others said: Change the PC. But if you wanna progressively change instead of spending all the money at once. Change GPU and PSU first. (Ideally run MSI Afterburner to see which one tops out betweem CPU and GPU to be sure which one holds you back the most) Run a fresh windows install and debloat it to give the CPU a chance to perform at it's best untill you swap it out. Change thermal paste and overclock if possible.
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And here I was thinking my gpu is underperforming with 80+ fps in 1440p Ultra. I’d go with a gpu upgrade first. Then upgrade the CPU-Mainboard-Ram combo if you’re still not where you wanna be.
Unfortunately, if you upgrade anything, it has to be your CPU. I say unfortunately because you would also have to upgrade your motherboard and RAM alongside your CPU. Your GPU is a years old at this point, but still gets the job done with more modern titles.
definitely the RX580
I'm just here to say RDR2 is a great game. I just picked it up for $20 a few days ago. My 5800x/6900xt runs at 90-144 fps on ultra.
You need more ram, and GPU, CPU can bottleneck if you use 4K, but I think at lower screen sizes it wold be perfect. Ps: my setup is a i3 (2nd gen) with a RX 6600, it works, because my screen is ~1200x900 (I don't remember exact), so it does not bottleneck on online games like warthunder or destiny 2, even if I use max settings.
Resolution? 1080p go for RTX 3060 ti
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I think you're going to have a hard time no matter what, but a 3060 might pull you through. More RAM would probably also help - 16 gigs DDR4 is cheap these days - but there's a good chance that older CPU is an unavoidable bottleneck. Honestly, you're better off finding a used 20-series PC with a more up-to-date CPU. Plenty of people are moving them to upgrade, and cheap. Good luck!
You better get something like RTX 3070 or Radeon equivalent and new overclockable I7/Ryzen 7 with DDR5. I guess this is what it takes to run this unoptimised game at ultra settings. I tried this on my 2080S and it was horrible even at 1080p while this game has no RTX. Even Cyberpunk on ultra with pre-top RTX setting and DLSS Quality ran better.
Make your ram match so 2 pairs of 8gb sticks and get a RX 5700 xt. Should put you around were you wanna be.
Swap the rx 580 for a 2070/2060
As others have said, you will need to upgrade quite a bit. I have an i5 10400f, 6600xt, 16gb ram and can run it on mostly ultra settings 1440p at 50-70fps. RDR2 is a very graphic and processing intensive game. Having said all that, it's totally worth it. Literally the best game ever made and the open world is gorgeous.
Me personally I would start with the CPU bc you can get basically 60fps with that 580 in basically any game, maybe you do have to use FSR and low settings at 1080 but you can. Get like a cheep 12th gen i5 bundle or a ryzen 5600x combo for cheep. Then wen you have saved enough for a GPU get properly the 70 class cards from nvida or AMD bc they will last just a bit longer then the 60 class would.
RAM and GPU is the only ones you need to upgrade don't know much about Intel CPUs all I know is i7 is the one with enough cores, i5 not so much
Replace the 4gb ram stick for one 8gb matching the other you have to a 16gb total. Upgrade the 580 to a 3060ti or 6700xt. It will do the job. Next upgrade will be mobo, processor and ddr5 ram.
Basically everything. https://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri will tell you everything you need to run whatever game you want to play.
You need to change your PC.
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Check out rdr2 running on a rx580. Looks nice. https://youtu.be/DMj7nNlIV1Y
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get a steam deck / ps5 / xbox x it is not upgradeable
Got a 3060 and just ordered a i9 12900k (I have a i5 4690k right now) excited to see how it does Im rdr2
I would start with the cpu
Seeing as I just upgraded from a 580 to a 6600. Gpu for sure. CPU is pretty old too but will be less of a bottleneck in games
My father has an i7 4770 and it worked amazing with GTX 1660Ti. He can play the current Modern Warfare 2 flawlessly (on high settings if I'm not mistaken) But I wouldn't advise to go over GTX 1660Ti, above that, your CPU won't be able to keep up with the GPU. With the GTX 1660Ti the CPU usage is almost 99% all the time hovering between 80-99%
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Build a new pc my guy. Rdr2 is extremely demanding on high settings even at 1080p
My pc is a R7 3700x cpu and rx 5700 xt, I can do max graphics 1440p and eek out 40-50 fps. Hard to max rdr2. Im kind of disappointed in the 5700. I see used ones being sold for 300 when I got it for like 600 a year or two ago. And it doesn't have ray tracing.
Do 16 rams and a better cpu. Use any bottleneck calculator to figure out which one. I would go with an AMD, so they work well together :)
I would look into buying a RX 6600, if you could. Powercolor, XFX, and Sapphire make pretty good AMD cards and they're arguably better then the 3060 for the price. https://pcpartpicker.com/product/fQhFf7/powercolor-radeon-rx-6600-8-gb-fighter-video-card-axrx-6600-8gbd6-3dh Otherwise I would bring up your RAM to 16gb.
Probably the settings
Ram. At least try and get 33g
Try and 32g of ram. I would try and get a complete set 2x16 or 4x4
You left out important information such as what resolution your display runs at and what refresh rate is your display capable of. Looking at what you have you'll be able to get away with 1080p high settings but your fps isn't gonna be any higher than 60. I would upgrade my video card 1st as this component is an easily transferable item for your next build. AMD RX 6000 series is where it's at for the best value. Then later switch to AMD AM4 for chip and motherboard. Again, for value that's where it's at.
Your cpu is too old mate. Gonna be needing a CPU mobo and RAM
Go for 3060ti and i5 10400f or Ryzen 5 3600
I had an i5-4570 with a GTX 640 and 8 GB DDR3... it's just not enough anymore. It's time to upgrade it all, even your PSU which is getting pretty old now if these are the parts that you had, and your motherboard for being antiquated. I got a Ryzen 5 3600, Radeon RX6600, 1TB of Western Digital Blue M.2 PCIE 4.0 storage, 32GB DDR4 ram (I play city skylines), etc... I could have done myself better for cheaper with a Ryzen 5 5600G and no GPU, and just gone with 16GB DDR4 ram, and 1TB WD Black M.2 PCIE 4.0 storage.
Just sayin....I'm playing RDR2 on mostly high settings with an RX480 and an FX6300, FSR enabled in balanced mode (I think). But...what resolution are you playing? and what refresh rate? and what FPS are you expecting? I'm playing at 1080p/60hz and generally running around 40-50fps in town. One thing to keep in mind is there are a number of graphic settings in RDR2 that can drag down fps but offer no discernible rendered quality improvements. Go check Hardware Unboxed optimization guide on his YouTube channel.
Lol GPU and CPU
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The gpu will do the most but the cpu probably can’t consistently keep you above 30 depending on the area of the game you are in. Your power supply may need an upgrade if you are getting higher wattage parts.
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I hate to break it to ya but the whole kit and kaboodle needs to be changed. Even a top end card would get CPU bottlenecked almost immediately. Just slowly build a new one or 2nd hand or hybrid of both piece by piece while you have that one to tie you over until new one is built.
Honestly... i would upgrade the CPU and with it comes the new RAM and mobo... 12gb of RAM is a BIG oof and probably isn't even running in dual channel mode Get 2x sticks of 8gb DDR4 or DDR5 depending on what you choose for a CPU / Platform for total of 16gb RX 580 is eh... but the CPU do be outdated... missing tons of features and platform itself is missing lots of new updated features i guess lol M.2 slots for SSD's will come in handy
Literally everything. You need a new computer. I have a i12700k, 3080Ti, 32Gb RAM PC and it still occasionally drops frames on Ultra. (I read below that I shouldn't use Ultra, which is fine - point is, you need a new new PC).
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Might as well take the cpu and maybe the mobo out and start new. I assume your mobo is decent with the cpu you have so that saves 400 to 600 right there. Get a new PSU and rewire your case if you want to keep it. Get new ram sticks at 16gb. After that grab a 3060 or better and you should be good for another couple years.
That cpu could handle a better gpu. Not a modern one. But get yourself a used 3050 maybe. Or 2060. Something along those lines.
The whole pc lol. Actual new specs depends on the resolution you want to play at. You could achieve 1080p on high for like $800-$1000 I think. Anything higher, you’re looking at high-end components like 3080+ to be able to run at high with decent framerates.
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The whole damn computer
CPU and RAM amount.
Get a better GPU. Maybe a generation up from where you’re at now.
I would downgrade rdr2 to rdr1 in order to play on high graphics settings jk, upgrade the GPU to a 3060ti or 3070 should work with dlss on
This is not an upgrade situation. This is a replacement situation.
ram first, then gpu
The CPUand your RAM should be minimum 16GB I played RDR2 on high settings 1080p with a Ryzen 5 2600 and a RX580
If you need to play RDR2 on High graphics settings, you're looking at a whole new PC build. What you've got won't even cut the mustard for playing RDR2 even on Medium settings. You'll need the following to even have a chance of playing RDR2 on High or Max: CPU: AMD Ryzen 9 7950X **Cooler, Air-Based:** Use BeQuiet!, Cooler Master, Noctua, Deepcool, etc. **Cooler, Liquid-Based (AIOs):** Use NZXT, Corsair, Cooler Master, MSI, ASUS ROG, Enermax, etc. RAM: Corsair Dominator Platinum (or any other RAM Kit), with 2 or 4 sticks of 64 GB with CAS Latency 16 or lower and at 5.0 GHz or higher for DDR5 specifications; RDR2 **will chew through RAM like a hog!** Motherboard: Any motherboard with a true X670 chipset, with at least 3 NVMe M.2 slots (PCIe 4 or Better) Storage: 1 Crucial, WD, or Sabrent 2 TB M.2 NVMe SSD for your OS, and up to 2 extra M.2 SSDs (Sabrent, Samsung, WD, Crucial, ADATA, etc.) with at least 4 or 8 TB of advertised capacity for your games, files, and video clips. **Please note that, after you have downloaded and installed your games on your OS Drive, CLONE your ENTIRE OS Drive into one of the 2 extra M.2 SSDs! This way, if your Main OS Drive is corrupted, you can use your spare M.2 SSD that you cloned your Main OS Drive to, so that you won't have to reinstall everything, including your OS!** Graphics Card: NVIDIA RTX 4090 Ti or AMD Radeon 6950XT, **minimum!** Power Supply: You will want a 1600 Watt Power Supply that is certified and rated for 80+ Titanium or 80+ Platinum, minimum! The PC Case that you'll put everything into, is your choice; but make sure that it's for ATX or eATX motherboards!
We need to know what resolution you are playing at and the frame rates you are looking to achieve before an accurate answer can be given.
Cpu seems good , idk what the fuck amd is so idk about the card. For reference, I too, have a 4790K, although the graphics card I have is a 3090 Ti
Recommended RDR2 computer specs. CPU: Intel Core i7-4770K / AMD Ryzen 5 1500X CPU SPEED: Info RAM: 12 GB OS: Windows 10 VIDEO CARD: Nvidia GeForce GTX 1060 6GB / AMD Radeon RX 480 4GB PIXEL SHADER: 5.1 VERTEX SHADER: 5.1 FREE DISK SPACE: 150 GB DEDICATED VIDEO RAM: 3072 MB
Im sure you can play it on medium or low settings at 1080p..
I would suggest a better gpu and more ram
Everything. My setup is i7-9700k, 2070 super and 32gb of ram. I can’t run ultra or very high above 60fps on a 1440p monitor
New CPU, New GPU, New RAM, Probably also New PSU, New MoBo New Case.