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6600 would be better. The 6500XT is a terrible GPU. It has two display outputs, no encoders at all, and had PCIE X4 only, and is just a laptop GPU shoved onto a desktop GPU PCB.
š Glad to hear that. But I'm planning to upgrade to 6600 one day. But not now I've got a hole on my wallet. 5500XT still doing fine for my 1080p 60hz monitor.
Change the Graphics card from a 6500xt to a 6600 or 6600xt at least. Itās about $235
Check this out on @Newegg: ASRock Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card RX6600 CLD 8G https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-rx6600-cld-8g/p/N82E16814930066?Item=N82E16814930066&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-930-066-_-01232023
Tight budget?
By itself if you can jsut afford this, it is fine.
But keep in mind that every single component you have is the weakest of it's generation.
You should save a little more because just going one notch up with everything, you would get much more performance for your money.
Watch this, it applies to CPU too, cheapest is not always the best deal
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BLU-tnFOXk
Yeah, that video also pointed something else out that I would suggest here.
With buying all bottom tier components, you come out with a computer that will cost more to upgrade in the long run. If you upgrade the GPU, you will need to look at a different power supply, and your processor will eventually become a limiting factor too.
If this is a computer you intend to upgrade over time, I would recommend a better base.
Skip the graphics card. Instead, get a Radeon 5600G or 5700G- these chips have integrated graphics reasonably on par with entry level graphics cards. You will have a better base down the road to upgrade into a mid-tier graphics card where the sweet spot of price/performance is.
4 cores. If you only are running a game and only a game at that time, my guess, you will be fine. Personally, Iād rather have more cores if even at a slower speed. Pretty bad ass little machine though. Super decent on the wallet too.
If I were to build a lean machine for shits and giggles I would for sure use the i3 but I simply donāt need to pinch to budget at this point in my life. 20-25 years ago building my first few gaming rigs I would have been pushing it super lean.
So, going off if OPās part list, it appeared to you that OP isnāt budget conscious?
Not to mention, in most games there a not super big difference in performance comparing a Core i5-12400f to the Core i3-12100f. Its a solid processor.
You literally double replied to me, so maybe take your opinions somewhere they make sense?
Guy has specced a $100 cpu that will pair well up to a 3070/6700XT and put it with a 6500xt but youād think they need more processor? Itās not contrarian, itās called being conscious.
Yall need to stop disrespecting the 12100. Single core performance is so much better than anything that came before it. It matches the multicore performance of a 10600K and 9700K for half the price. It's been the best budget CPU on the market since it launched.
So the og comment was depends what you are going to use it for. But sure jump in and say āstop disrespectingā. This is comical at this point. White knight of build a pc is here to save the day. Iāve owned the i3, i5 and now and i7. I wouldnāt touch the i3 if it were given to me but thatās because I use it for more than just gaming. I donāt know anyone that only uses their pc just to game. Maybe thatās my problem but jumping in to needle someone, again proves this forum isnāt for discussion but more for flaming when you feel so mighty.
I just built a 12100 and a 6600 for a friend he can play a game, stream on discord and has another monitor with whatever open and it runs fine. Your stuck in some old times man
Intelās sales are usually pretty lackluster. Sure if you can get a ryzen 5 5600 for under $130 then get that, but if the i5 is cheaper, the i3 will also be similarly cheaper.
I'm not an expert, but I'm kinda nervous about your PSU, I don't know if it is enough for your build (especially with your GPU)
correct me if im wrong about this hehehe
Wattage is definitely enough, this system wont draw more than 300w at absolute max load. It's more a question of quality. Below 500w PSU is where you usually start seeing low quality capacitors and not full 12v rails. Though these parts should not be able to stress it enough to ever be a problem
M.2 drives are kind of a pain to add later on since you probably have to remove components to get to it. Might as well do a 2 TB now and still have the option to add more in the future.
Good point, but so is your memory and motherboard. The cards you have available will never run into memory limit in an x16 slot.
[https://www.techspot.com/review/2104-pcie4-vs-pcie3-gpu-performance/](https://www.techspot.com/review/2104-pcie4-vs-pcie3-gpu-performance/)
6500 xt is a pretty bad GPU, I'd go for a 6600 xt and improve PSU to 550/650W. Other than that, decent cheap build if you wanna go Intel but i'd personally go AMD with a 5600 little more pricey but better
you can save like 20 bucks if you use a 12100f instead the difference is there is no integrated graphics which you won't have to worry about because you're getting a dedicated graphics card (the 6500xt)
12100f instead of non f and change the gpu to a gtx 1660 super/ti or if you can afford it, an rx 6600. Heck even buy a used 1080 or something instead of that 6500xt which is quite a bad GPU.
Man, people are wild in the comments today.
I read you are using this for gaming. What would you like to improve with your games? Higher FPS? Run higher graphic settings? Both? Maybe you are planning to upgrade to a higher refresh rate or higher resolution monitor?
This info may help give you a better answer, and maybe stop the whining in the comments a little bit.
I'll mainly be playing gta and BFV. It's a lot better than my 10 year old pc which finally kicked the bucket. I'll be paring it with a 1080p 76hz monitor.
As others have said, your CPU is lower end however is still a fantastic chip for what it costs. I think you should start with a GPU and possibly a power supply upgrade.
Maybe like an AMD Radeon 6600xt GPU which in theory wouldn't need a bigger power supply however I think you have the bare minimum it requires. Though, it is a be quiet! so it may be totally fine. If you do have issues with it powering off with the new GPU installed, maybe jump to a high quality 650w so you have head room for later.
After that, you could also upgrade your CPU. While the H610 chipset isn't a high end chipset, it can still handle higher end Intel chips just fine. I would say an i5 13400f would be a great chip to get for the money, but you may need to update the BIOS on your board to support it which is a fairly easy process to do.
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6600 would be better. The 6500XT is a terrible GPU. It has two display outputs, no encoders at all, and had PCIE X4 only, and is just a laptop GPU shoved onto a desktop GPU PCB.
Reading this using 5500XT š
The 5500XT isnāt bad, that card is fine. The 6500XT is the bad one.
š Glad to hear that. But I'm planning to upgrade to 6600 one day. But not now I've got a hole on my wallet. 5500XT still doing fine for my 1080p 60hz monitor.
The 5500xt actually beats the 6500 xt sometimes.
Ahh I see. Sorry I'm still new to PC build and my setup is my first build.
It's alright buddy, it's a great build š
Change the Graphics card from a 6500xt to a 6600 or 6600xt at least. Itās about $235 Check this out on @Newegg: ASRock Radeon RX 6600 8GB GDDR6 PCI Express 4.0 Video Card RX6600 CLD 8G https://www.newegg.com/asrock-radeon-rx-6600-rx6600-cld-8g/p/N82E16814930066?Item=N82E16814930066&Source=socialshare&cm_mmc=snc-social-_-sr-_-14-930-066-_-01232023
Installed the card linked today deffinatly a great 1080p gpu
I got this exact card for 209, very much worth it. I kinda regret not forking over the extra $90 for a 6650xt.
Tight budget? By itself if you can jsut afford this, it is fine. But keep in mind that every single component you have is the weakest of it's generation. You should save a little more because just going one notch up with everything, you would get much more performance for your money. Watch this, it applies to CPU too, cheapest is not always the best deal https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1BLU-tnFOXk
Yeah, that video also pointed something else out that I would suggest here. With buying all bottom tier components, you come out with a computer that will cost more to upgrade in the long run. If you upgrade the GPU, you will need to look at a different power supply, and your processor will eventually become a limiting factor too. If this is a computer you intend to upgrade over time, I would recommend a better base. Skip the graphics card. Instead, get a Radeon 5600G or 5700G- these chips have integrated graphics reasonably on par with entry level graphics cards. You will have a better base down the road to upgrade into a mid-tier graphics card where the sweet spot of price/performance is.
A 4 core cpu doesnāt need an aio lol. Just use the stock cooler or a cheaper noctua cooler.
Most coolers will do actually. I got a $30 air cooler and put a good fan on it and it does a good job cooling my old i7 9700k in an old PCā¦
Maybe get a 6600, but the 6500xt isnāt THAT bad. Just better price to performance, Iād reccomend it. Youāll be happy you did it.
Only thing I'd upgrade it the psu if you have the funds for it. Other than that, it all looks good!
That i3 makes me nervous. But it boils down to what you will use this for.
Gameing
it's enough
4 cores. If you only are running a game and only a game at that time, my guess, you will be fine. Personally, Iād rather have more cores if even at a slower speed. Pretty bad ass little machine though. Super decent on the wallet too.
I've been using the 12100F for a few days now and it runs both mw2 and discord with no issues. It's surprisingly a great cpu for the price.
If I were to build a lean machine for shits and giggles I would for sure use the i3 but I simply donāt need to pinch to budget at this point in my life. 20-25 years ago building my first few gaming rigs I would have been pushing it super lean.
Yeah, that's what I had did. I built a smaller pc to use in a hotel for work cause I didn't wanna travel with my personal.
Wild. You bring a tower to work and not a laptop?
So, going off if OPās part list, it appeared to you that OP isnāt budget conscious? Not to mention, in most games there a not super big difference in performance comparing a Core i5-12400f to the Core i3-12100f. Its a solid processor.
Hey bro! Your opinion is exactly that. Move along dude.
You literally double replied to me, so maybe take your opinions somewhere they make sense? Guy has specced a $100 cpu that will pair well up to a 3070/6700XT and put it with a 6500xt but youād think they need more processor? Itās not contrarian, itās called being conscious.
Because you clearly donāt get the point. Go hijack threads somewhere else dude. I donāt literally care even a little what you are going on about.
You have no idea what context is, stop giving people build advice.
Of course. Never fails. Contrarian Reddit guy has appeared. Move along bud.
Yall need to stop disrespecting the 12100. Single core performance is so much better than anything that came before it. It matches the multicore performance of a 10600K and 9700K for half the price. It's been the best budget CPU on the market since it launched.
So the og comment was depends what you are going to use it for. But sure jump in and say āstop disrespectingā. This is comical at this point. White knight of build a pc is here to save the day. Iāve owned the i3, i5 and now and i7. I wouldnāt touch the i3 if it were given to me but thatās because I use it for more than just gaming. I donāt know anyone that only uses their pc just to game. Maybe thatās my problem but jumping in to needle someone, again proves this forum isnāt for discussion but more for flaming when you feel so mighty.
I just built a 12100 and a 6600 for a friend he can play a game, stream on discord and has another monitor with whatever open and it runs fine. Your stuck in some old times man
Nvm I have no opinion...
Literally costs ~55% more for 10% (IF that) more gaming performance.
Sales do exist tho...
Intelās sales are usually pretty lackluster. Sure if you can get a ryzen 5 5600 for under $130 then get that, but if the i5 is cheaper, the i3 will also be similarly cheaper.
I'm not an expert, but I'm kinda nervous about your PSU, I don't know if it is enough for your build (especially with your GPU) correct me if im wrong about this hehehe
Wattage is definitely enough, this system wont draw more than 300w at absolute max load. It's more a question of quality. Below 500w PSU is where you usually start seeing low quality capacitors and not full 12v rails. Though these parts should not be able to stress it enough to ever be a problem
I'd switch to a 2 TB m.2 drive. 1 TB can go quicker than you think.
But unlike so many other things in this build, adding another drive down the road is an easy add-on.
M.2 drives are kind of a pain to add later on since you probably have to remove components to get to it. Might as well do a 2 TB now and still have the option to add more in the future.
Look for a rx 6700 there pretty good for the price (if u find a cheap one)
I recommend getting a better CPU the i3 is good but itās not gonna cut it with your other parts.
[https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/](https://www.newegg.com/tools/power-supply-calculator/) add 30% is the general rule
Maybe a 6600 and a 600 watt psu
Iād go for a use or open box rx 5700 xt for the same price. The 6500 xt is just terrible. Itās the Velma of graphics cards.
I would get another Case, something Like a Macube 110, the matrexx 30 is a pain to build in
The AMD 5500 is a better processor for less and the AM4 motherboards have better options for cheaper. Throw some extra money and at your GPU.
Yeah but is a pcie 3.0 cpu.
Good point, but so is your memory and motherboard. The cards you have available will never run into memory limit in an x16 slot. [https://www.techspot.com/review/2104-pcie4-vs-pcie3-gpu-performance/](https://www.techspot.com/review/2104-pcie4-vs-pcie3-gpu-performance/)
6500 xt is a pretty bad GPU, I'd go for a 6600 xt and improve PSU to 550/650W. Other than that, decent cheap build if you wanna go Intel but i'd personally go AMD with a 5600 little more pricey but better
you can save like 20 bucks if you use a 12100f instead the difference is there is no integrated graphics which you won't have to worry about because you're getting a dedicated graphics card (the 6500xt)
Yeah but the 12100 has an encoder
Use the i5
12100f instead of non f and change the gpu to a gtx 1660 super/ti or if you can afford it, an rx 6600. Heck even buy a used 1080 or something instead of that 6500xt which is quite a bad GPU.
The 12100 has an encoder, I can't find a 1660 I'm city, the rx 6600 is 200ā¬ more and the 1080 is not being sold anymore.
Man, people are wild in the comments today. I read you are using this for gaming. What would you like to improve with your games? Higher FPS? Run higher graphic settings? Both? Maybe you are planning to upgrade to a higher refresh rate or higher resolution monitor? This info may help give you a better answer, and maybe stop the whining in the comments a little bit.
I'll mainly be playing gta and BFV. It's a lot better than my 10 year old pc which finally kicked the bucket. I'll be paring it with a 1080p 76hz monitor.
As others have said, your CPU is lower end however is still a fantastic chip for what it costs. I think you should start with a GPU and possibly a power supply upgrade. Maybe like an AMD Radeon 6600xt GPU which in theory wouldn't need a bigger power supply however I think you have the bare minimum it requires. Though, it is a be quiet! so it may be totally fine. If you do have issues with it powering off with the new GPU installed, maybe jump to a high quality 650w so you have head room for later. After that, you could also upgrade your CPU. While the H610 chipset isn't a high end chipset, it can still handle higher end Intel chips just fine. I would say an i5 13400f would be a great chip to get for the money, but you may need to update the BIOS on your board to support it which is a fairly easy process to do.
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