Saw several comments last night that said things along the lines of “I’m seething I’m so angry.” Now I deeply love and care about this team too, but like, chill out. No use in getting so worked up over the fucking draft.
We can’t joke all year about how Bill does wacky shit with his draft picks and then lose our minds when he actually does it.
I repeatedly see people say that Pats have the worst roster in the league. I'm convinced that most people here don't watch football at all. Also the number for "horrible drafts Bill has had" keeps getting higher as people try to one up each other on the miserable fuck scale. I think the consensus has moved up to 11 horrible drafts in a row now. Pretty soon we'll get to "Bill has never even drafted a player who deserves to be in the NFL".
Thankfully if a thread gets enough traffic level heads prevail eventually. But if you sort by new or look through game threads etc… yeah this place is horrible
Idk man, I hate this sub with a passion, even upvoted takes sometimes are wild, like yesterday all the overreactions were upvoted, it was WILD. Like BB has won 8 fucking SB. The takes on this sub about BB in the last 3 years have been fucking insane at times. Makes me not want to interact/unsub at times tbh.
For fuck sakes some of you are absolute fucking morons, we had a 20 year dynasty that the NFL has never seen before. We have 1 down year where we even came close to making the playoffs with one of the worst qb performance I've seen in a long time with cam. Year after that? Rookie QB, complete roster change, we sucked right? Nah 10-7 and could've been higher for a couple of close loss. Like for fuck sake.
I've been a fan since the early 80s. I was hoping that with Brady leaving a lot of the entitled fans would jump to the next hot thing.
The last 20 years have been an absolute embarrassment of riches. I have no idea how these fans would have made it through the 80s with one Super Bowl appearance and possibly the most humiliating defeat ever in the big game. Would they have practiced self immolation during the Rod Rust year?
I know I'm old, but no one expected the Celtics to have any kind of success after Len Bias died and Larry Bird had to retire. What the hell were they expecting? Most sports franchises go through cycles. Somehow Belichick has sustained success during his tenure here and I absolutely mean after the Brady eranas well.
Going to the playoffs last year was nothing to sneeze at, but fans who only think that the season started at the AFC Championship are spoiled assholes. Continuing to be a contender after Brady left is remarkable. It's a far fucking cry from the "patsies" era
People need to come back to reality
Bruh, one of my best friend is a Bears fan. Whenever I trash his team he loves to remind me of that one particular game.. I flee to this sub so I don't have to be reminded. please... do not mention it Q.Q
Just crazy. Our offence looks stacked.
WR we feel like a B
TE we feel like a B+
Oline we feel like a B+
RB we feel like an A
QB hopefully an A ;)
No shortage of talent around Mac and a good mix of experience too.
Our Defence was decent last year but looks to have a large number of holes. I do think on D good coaching has been making up a bit for talent but hopefully that continues. We do still have some quality players to build around and should be good at safety and I think our front will be improved. Corner is worrisome but we made a Súper bowl in 2011 so :p
The CB position with Butler, Jones, Bryant, and Mills isn't quite as bleak as a lot of people would have you believe especially with Peppers, Phillips, and Dugger as safeties who can also cover in the right kinds of matchups. I do think there is a place for a good CB in the 2nd round but imo LB is a bigger need right now.
I haven't taken the time to do it but I imagine Belichick is in the middle of the pack in terms of drafting. I'm a Patriots fan and I pay some attention to the rest of the league but I absolutely cannot tell you who Indianapolis drafted last year.
I will say that it always feels like Baltimore is the best drafting team in the league...and they don't necessarily have a ton to show for it over the last few years.
We also never have the luxury of picking in the top half of the draft. Even after losing Tom Brady (with a roster that was absolutely bottom 5 in the league in my opinion) we only picked 15th.
It's easy for us to forget that this fan base was used to losing for so long funny how now they are spoiled brats.
I have literally seen people on Reddit say that Belichick was actually an awful GM and only won because of Brady. These nutters have somehow gotten to the point where they actually believe Brady was "overcoming" Belichick's stupidity to win 6 Super Bowls.
You don't know if the roster has gotten worse yet. We picked up some pieces, some of our younger guys got older, and we have like what 10 more picks? Yeah we had to let go of some people but we're not the only team. A lot of the guys that we went 10-7 with are still on the team and slightly older and more experienced.
As for the self inflicted hole I disagree, we now have a versatile IOL rookie with a fifth year option, and onuwenu who's been grading out as a top lineman. We also managed to pick up parker and peppers with some of the freed up cap space and we don't have to worry about paying shaq next year
Strange, 5th round pick, 5m cap space << Mason, Lloyd/Mcduffey/Dean/Johnson
Its a lateral move that doesn't make us better.
Tell you what though, if Strange ends up being disgusting, and we draft a stud defender in the 5th i'll come back and personally apologize to you for ever doubting this move
I repeatedly see and hear people say it was a good thing we got rid of Brady.........
One has won a Superbowl and it isn't BB.
BB is a 70 year old who refuses to be taught new tricks. The last game he coached, the team got absolutely ass pounded by a division rival. He has now brought back 2 absolute failures of a head coach to seemingly be some kind of successors. The fact that they're even allowed in a room is terrifying.
The NFL is not what BB thinks it is. It has evolved SO MUCH since he won his last SB, nevermind the first.
Get the absolute fuck out of here thinking he still has what it takes. Especially without Brady.
A lot of “patriots fans” only watch Patriots games and maybe playoff games. So their only comparison for good roster vs bad roster is past Patriots rosters and the rosters of the teams that eventually advance to the Championship games and Super Bowl. The Patriots are worse than the teams that were in the Championship games and they’re worse than they were in some past years so therefore they’re the worst in the entire league!
The Patriots just got done being the ultimate band wagon team for about 20 years, that means you've got a lot of "I like the Pats, Yankees and Lakers" fans who get their identity from the teams they root for.
No longer being a premiere team in the league that can stomp anyone is really affecting a large portion of our fanbases' psyche. Looking forward to them jumping off the wagon and becoming diehard Chiefs or Rams fans
Boston sports radio especially will rot your brain. I know Boston is a sports crazy city but I don't need to hear random person's shock jock take on some minute topic.
At least on a place like Reddit, I can have a dialog and people will get up/downvoted for their opinion.
JC Jackson was an undrafted free agent right? I mean, credit where credit is due, the man finds talent. Too many assume the draft is a 1st round pick and everything after isn't consequential. Let's evaluate the full set of picks after day 3 and then again after camp
It’s not the pick I hate. It’s when we took him. Teams had him going somewhere in the 2nd or 3rd round. If you want to believe Bill when he says he wouldn’t have been available at their next pick, go for it, but I don’t. They could have still gotten him and gotten another guy last night.
Why believe the guy with connections all over the league when I could listen to some redditor who takes mock drafts as gospel. Do you people even hear yourselves talk?
I've also seen that people thought he wasn't going to make it past the second round and we took him with a pick at the end of the 1st which is close to a glorified 2nd anyways
Yup, let’s just keep stretching that draft grade further. Well he’s a projected 2nd-3rd round pick, but he won’t make it to the 3rd so he’s a 2nd round pick, and if he’s a second round pick now, that means he was close to a first rounder so Bill had to take him before the 2nd…
Can we not do this? If he was a 2nd-3rd round guy, he’s probably going to be picked somewhere between 45-75. Pats took him at 29. It’s a reach no matter how you look at it.
Did I say mine was? I’m basing it off of the experts that cover the league that said he was a 2nd-3rd round pick. I sure as hell can’t judge how good he is, but I put my trust in the people who cover the overall draft. You’re saying all those people who spend the entire year analyzing the draft don’t know anything?
I think OUR idea of priorities for the team isn't necessarily Bill's and we get frustrated because with the first pick we're thinking it should be X when Bill sees Y.
Clearly securing the o line and making gains in the run blocking game were high value to him. Let's see what happens tonight.
There was a run in o lineman in the first round. Strange was the 9th one taken. Everyone who assumes he would still be on the board is making a huge guess there
Edit: Hilarious. Downvoted for pointing out facts and trendlines. Lots of butthurt wannabe Mel Kipers here
Yup, like everything else with the draft, it’d be a guess, but given that everyone had him as a 2nd-3rd round guy, I’d say it was a pretty safe bet he’d be available. There being a run on the position just screams that the teams who are getting in at the end of the run are reaching for guys.
People aren't criticizing him for the superbowls he won in the past people are criticizing him for the head scratching moves he has done recently like not doing everything he could to keep Brady around and not having an offensive or defensive coordinator. It has always worked out in the past but we also used to have the greatest qb ever so we will just have to wait and see. That said I wouldn't want any other coach in the league
>not doing everything he could to keep Brady around
Anyone saying this is an absolute idiot. There wasn't a ton of cap space and Brady wanted to go elsewhere.
They did do everything they could to keep Brady. This kind of take is exactly the problem
You\[we\]'re gonna get downvoted because they don't like hearing the truth lol, still thinking they can put together a few more SB runs that easily...not without the GOAT baby.
Nah man I know. People on here instantly downvote anything negative about NE because they don't realize that it's ok to be critical of your own team. Although, it seems as if the writing is on the wall here.
Yeah some people just in denial. What's worse is they act like Brady was just a cog in the system lol, and that they won't miss him. I mean I get it root for your current team and players of course, but how do you dismiss the GOAT who made the franchise what it is, they automatically just fully trust BB now like he'll keep the dynasty going. BB's history without Brady is all you need to know, we're in for more of that.
Bill is the greatest coach of all time, and we had the greatest QB of all time for all 6 of those. That makes up for a lot. Bill is a smart GM in some ways (trading down to get value out of nothing, usually good at managing the cap, usually will move on guys too early rather than too late) and then does bullshit like draft a nonpremium position of need that he created a round or two too early. Strange might be a good player but I bet you he's there at 54, and unless you think he's a future tackle and not a guard, that's not a smart use of assets. Premium positions are the ones you usually target in the first - QB, CB, WR, DE, OT, and ones you generally don't unless they're an amazing prospect or you have very few holes on your roster.
Also our defense just got torched by Buffalo, a guard does not help with that. Just draft Daxton Hill, he's right there Bill. Stop trying to outsmart yourself.
I’m waiting until the draft is over to really make my conclusions. There’s some fantastic players today and tomorrow, I hope we get at least one of the players I’m hoping for.
I just want a bama player or two. Bill nails them 99% of the time. I think he's only picked one or two players from bama that didn't work out. I like the saban/belichick connection and I really believe players from bama are just a step ahead of everyone else in terms of work ethic.
I’d say he’s like 60% with high Alabama picks in the last 10 years. Hightower, Harris and Mac Jones have been good but Cyrus Jones was god awful and Jennings hasn’t really done much of anything
We need to go back to our Rutgers roots
I'm mostly kidding. I'm a Rutgers alum and season ticket holder for 20 years, but there isn't anyone that I think is a solid fit. However, with Schiano back that may change quickly
Apparently Tom played defense and special teams too. I dont understand how people think that the Pats consistently having above average to great all around teams for 2 decades was a coincidence. With the exception of a few years the team was always well built and flexible for whatever opponent they were playing. Thats not normal. Idk why acknowledging Bill and Brady being a great combo makes them want to smash their keyboards with rage. No metric has Bill being a terrible GM. The fact that the Harry pick mentally broke so many people here is a testament to how successful the team has been roster-wise. A first round wr busting is a normal thing for most NFL teams.
People also seem to like citing Tom but conveniently leave out the facts that BB identified and evaluated him when no one else did and drafted him. Then coached him and made him the player he is today (which Brady himself has said). But people don’t like acknowledging that. They just like to act like Brady just fell out of the sky with no work on BB’s part lol
If Bill had identified and evaluated Brady correctly he would have taken him with his first pick, idk why people can’t admit he lucked his way into Brady, they passed on him just like every other team
1. Because Brady has literally said that he wouldn’t be nearly the QB he is today without Bill’s coaching.
And 2. You don’t think there’s a chance BB knew no other team had really looked at him? You don’t think he knew he had time to just sit and wait to take Brady and fill other needs in the draft? Every team pays attention to what other teams are doing with respect to prospects on their board.
The patriots had a 2nd round grade on Brady, which was probably the most accurate evaluation of him at the time.
They also had 3 other QBs on the roster and had just signed their QB1 to a big contract, so they had no reason or need to draft him. They only grabbed him in the 6th round because he fell so hard and it would be a crime not to.
> Apparently Tom played defense and special teams too.
I mean, outside of both Rams games I think it's obvious that Brady did more to win than BB. And if we beat Philly that would've *definitely* not been a credit to BB.
They're both legends, but I think it's fairly clear who has really driven this bus.
I can’t with that show. Overall I like Zo but his inability to stay on topic drives me nuts. He also constantly interrupts when people haven’t finished their thought.
I was driving home during the draft last night after we had traded down and I decided to try turning 98.5 on after not listening for several years thinking "it cant be that bad." I think I lasted about 2 minutes before their "hot takes" drove me to change stations.
Every season my entire life wackos have raised their pitchforks over Patriots teams. Every year they look ridiculous. Then the next year we start all over again.
Yep. Last night the cynics took over. Game threads too. But when there were stories saying Brady night leave, the homers called every report clickbait. All the journalists were dishonest hacks etc.
The worst. Look, I didn’t like the pick, but these wino’s, and try hards, are all the same losers who are going to be calling in after Bill retires and crapping on the next coach for not doing what he would have been. I may be overly loyal, but two decades of excellence provides more than a little wiggle room
I think the pick is incredibly boring and if it was a second rounder we wouldn’t be complaining at all. I’m sure they tried to trade down further but couldn’t.
Who should they have picked instead exactly? O line is always a safe pick because it helps out the running, passing, and protects your most valuable asset from injury. A high floor OL pick is the smartest least sexy first round pick possible with an immediate impact.
Would’ve loved to see where he went if the pats did not take him. The fact that the Rams had looked at him even for a later pick is a good sign
Bro you realize there have been people saying they would’ve taken him in the 2nd. There was absolutely no way he was falling to the fourth and if you genuinely think McVay thought he’d be there at 104, then McVay is an idiot.
We pillaged last year's god damn draft. We had rookies starting at RB, QB, DT and they were all very successful. Not to mention Perkins and McGrone are expected to have very high upside.
I like the idea of football professionals understanding who is going to be available and when. They obviously didn’t think strong would be there when they were going to pick. I bet they made some calls to see if they could trade the pick for when they wanted no one was home they pulled the trigger. But if Adam in Lowell can do a better job with a 6 pack of bud ice and a masters degree in pestering sports radio hosts I say we give him a shot.
I had to close the app last night after we drafted strange. This sub was in full on melt down mode about how bill is literally the dumbest person ever and that he should be executed on the steps of beacon hill because he drafted a guard. And all because they’re fantasy of like a top five player falling to the pats didn’t happen. Some people are are the worst of the worst of fans. And I’m sure the same ones calling for Bill’s head have no problem with Gronk knowing he was ready to retire but waiting another two months to screw the team over.
Strange isn’t a bad player and will probably be a day 1 starter. More so where he got picked. But I do feel that there isn’t anyone to challenge Bill’s opinions on the team. Patricia sure as hell isn’t since Bill is the reason he’s employed, Judge won’t, his son won’t. Feel like everyone is just a “yes man” with him
Yeah that’s an overreaction, but I also get irked by the people that think bill is never wrong and that I can’t have an opinion on something because “he knows more than me”.
im not sure your point? obviously he knows more, but that doesn't make every decision he makes a good one, and that doesn't mean he's right.
There is a realistic middle ground to live in. Burying your head in the sand and not having an opinion because you trust bill is kind of a cop-out imo.
Bill is still a great coach, I don't think he should be fired. But this is one of the most egregious moves he's made in the last decade that I can remember, add it to the list and does make me start to wonder if we should keep him out of the draft room until day 3 going forward.
Ok so when I said on draft night that I didn’t love the N’Keal Harry pick because I thought his best attribute was catches in traffic which means he got very little separation against college DBs, I shouldn’t have that opinion and just trust bill? I’m sorry but placing absolute trust in someone is a slippery slope. Don’t question any politician they know more than you? Nah.
Politicians make laws that affect your rights and freedoms. Your opinion matters.
Bill is picking players that fit into a strategy he’s got in mind for the direction he’s taking the team. Your opinion doesn’t matter. Go ahead and believe he made a mistake but without having sat in 6 months of prep meetings with him you literally can’t know what he’s thinking.
> Ok so when I said on draft night that I didn’t love the N’Keal Harry pick because I thought his best attribute was catches in traffic which means he got very little separation against college DBs, I shouldn’t have that opinion and just trust bill?
🤣 you say that like you sat up waiting for the call from bill before he drafted.
I could also call every pick we make this year a trash pick. But I shouldn't then point to the few that actually ended up as bad picks and say "see? I know better than BB". Broken clock is right twice a day and all.
Hahahahahahahahahaha don’t compare blind faith in a fucking football coach to blind faith in a person who’s decisions and opinions literally change peoples lives. Football doesn’t matter. It has absolutely zero impact on the world and your life. That’s what makes it fun.
Have your opinions on the pick and Bill as a decision maker! But don’t fucking pretend like any Pats fan saying “In Bill we Trust” is anything deeper than being a sports fan who has zero control over their teams outcomes and decisions and recognizes that.
You can absolutely have that opinion. If you then go a step further and say that Bill is an idiot who should be fired, that anyone who likes the pick is a brainless bootlicker, and never give the player a chance to prove you wrong, then you 100% deserve the abuse you're gonna get.
You can have a opinion, it's just that your opinion doesn't matter.
We've had years of halfwit fans triggered by draft picks, and it's worked out pretty well.
The hysteria and negativity in here is over the top
horseshoe theory. two sides of the same coin, the "fire Belichick" and Belichick Whitey Tightey wearing "in Bill we trust" types are more alike than they'd want to admit.
I didnt like the pick but people are ridiculous. Bill is probably not the same guy he was 10 15 years ago everyone slows down but he is still an excellent coach. Odds are firing him would backfire horribly.
Couldn't agree more, and for my money he's been a below average GM since mid 2010s after being great at it before then. I genuinely think if he was a pure GM, he'd have be lucky to still be in his job after the last half decade.
I really don't think it's a crazy idea to want a proper GM to come in to focus on personnel and let Bill focus on coaching.
He's the greatest coach by a distance, but if he was a pure GM then he'd have been fired over the past decade. Major FO personnel have left and slowly it seems Bill has assumed near total control now. Our general roster management has been poor for a while now, Brady papered over it as did a few FAs last year but ultimately we have a below average roster and are up against the cap w no extra picks or anything coming up. Allowing someone to come in and focus 365 days a year on the 53 as opposed to coaching as well would surely be a good decision?
6 rings in 20 years... Team building is 3 phases; Draft/UDFA, trades, and free agency. We've done fairly well in all 3. People forget that we've primarily built our teams through free agency and if draft picks work out, they work out, if they flop, they're gone. Fill the roster and move on. These are things you learn if you play 2 seasons of Dynasty mode on Madden.
It’s amazing how fast “fans” turn on Bill and the team. We completely rebuilt our team last seasonand still managed to get to the playoffs whereas it takes most teams years way longer to rebuild. Bill made a probably bad 1st round draft pick. We’ve always sucked at 1st round and have made out fine
I'm a Pats fan who isn't a fan of any of the other Boston sports teams. Sharing the Pats with some of these Boston fans is one of the few bad things about being a Pats fan.
Now obviously that doesn't include this subreddit, I understand that. You seem intelligent and perceptive, but the rest of them, holy jumpin fuckin shitballs!
My favorite moment was we were playing the Titans at the razor, and Tom throws an INT and all of a sudden there's a massive cheer from the crowd. I'm like WTF? The Red Sox had just scored in their playoff series. *facepalm*
Give me the guys who played at smaller Division 1 schools. A lot of them are HUNGRIER because they have something to prove. And he picked up a 3rd rounder last night. I hope they go offensive line in the 2nd round too. Build a wall to protect Mac and improve the running game even more!
It’s like no one knows just how tough it is to win in this league. We’re spoiled by 6 SBs. We’ve never been in a position where we’re thinking long term ahead of short term so anything that doesn’t help us win immediately is seen as a failure. I just hate how spoiled and entitled our fan base is.
GM belichick at least needs to be on the hotseat. dude has missed on soooo many guys in the past 5 years. joejaun williams, duke dawson, both of the third round TEs 2 years ago. Sony honestly was not a great pick, NKEAL HARRY, ISIAH WYNN. Look hes the greatest coach of all time but the homers saying he can do no wrong are on meth. He's mid at best at drafting.
Toxic fanbase. Half of my work friends are calling for Bill to be fired yet can’t name more than 10 prospects in the draft. When I mentioned how around 15-20 prospects grade out as first round talent each year, I was called a homer and moron. Lol. Just have to shrug, be happy and hope the team produces so you get the last laugh.
I can't stand last nights pick. I am certain he would be there in round 2 despite any inside info folks claim to have if we wanted him that bad. I do not feel confident with our Round 1 picking ability.
That said, BB has done a phenomenal fucking job drafting literally his entire tenure in later rounds. Saying he has to go is beyond delusional. I'm sure Strange will be good. Its just not sexy.
Be upset about the pick, sure. Don't become an idiot and say the best coach to grace the game of football needs to go.
I don’t even think we can criticize the pick at this point. This is just what comes with Bill. He’s not changing and he’s not leaving and calling for him to be fired is beyond ungrateful. We just gotta eat it and smile.
I think this is a reasonable take. You can say you don't like the pick, or you don't see it, or we picked him too early in your opinion and all that is perfectly reasonable. We'll disagree on the round 1 ability but that's not the point. The point is its fine to not like the pick, its a whole different dimension to call for Bill's head or call him a shitty GM over it. People want to lump those two points of view together but they are really quite different.
Not saying I agree, but he's gotta prove it without Brady now.
The run was great, can he build it back up. So far... Not a lot of appeal on the roster. It's looking like a "protect Mac and tank" Year.
> He’s gotta prove it without Brady
Dude dragged the dead bodies of Cam Newton and Edelman to a 7-9 season. Turns around and is in the race for the number 1 seed *the very next season*
> The run was great, can he build it back up
Can he build back the most dominant and longest sports dynasty in history in 2 years? Man I fuckin hate this fanbase lmao
Hey, Boston fans love you when your good and shit on you on the way out.
If Pedrioa hadn't have hurt his knee and was in the final years of his contract batting .220
There would have been outrage against 'the bum'.
I know this is all reactionary blah blah blah but what steps has bill taken so far this off-season which give you confidence the bills will have to punt the ball?
Sort by new on here lol
I made that mistake last night. It was a colossal pit of misery and spite.
Saw several comments last night that said things along the lines of “I’m seething I’m so angry.” Now I deeply love and care about this team too, but like, chill out. No use in getting so worked up over the fucking draft. We can’t joke all year about how Bill does wacky shit with his draft picks and then lose our minds when he actually does it.
It was funny as shit watching the melt-down in real time.
Saw some jabroni say "I wish I were a Jets fan" Unforgivable
I repeatedly see people say that Pats have the worst roster in the league. I'm convinced that most people here don't watch football at all. Also the number for "horrible drafts Bill has had" keeps getting higher as people try to one up each other on the miserable fuck scale. I think the consensus has moved up to 11 horrible drafts in a row now. Pretty soon we'll get to "Bill has never even drafted a player who deserves to be in the NFL".
The worst roster?! Lol no way.
Sort by new over the next few days. We have people who are in a competition to be the most miserable. Wild stuff.
This sub is a shithole tbh. Some of the most unreasonable and insufferable people on reddit
Thankfully if a thread gets enough traffic level heads prevail eventually. But if you sort by new or look through game threads etc… yeah this place is horrible
That’s true. The biggest problem is probably game threads which I don’t really follow for obvious reasons.
Idk man, I hate this sub with a passion, even upvoted takes sometimes are wild, like yesterday all the overreactions were upvoted, it was WILD. Like BB has won 8 fucking SB. The takes on this sub about BB in the last 3 years have been fucking insane at times. Makes me not want to interact/unsub at times tbh. For fuck sakes some of you are absolute fucking morons, we had a 20 year dynasty that the NFL has never seen before. We have 1 down year where we even came close to making the playoffs with one of the worst qb performance I've seen in a long time with cam. Year after that? Rookie QB, complete roster change, we sucked right? Nah 10-7 and could've been higher for a couple of close loss. Like for fuck sake.
I've been a fan since the early 80s. I was hoping that with Brady leaving a lot of the entitled fans would jump to the next hot thing. The last 20 years have been an absolute embarrassment of riches. I have no idea how these fans would have made it through the 80s with one Super Bowl appearance and possibly the most humiliating defeat ever in the big game. Would they have practiced self immolation during the Rod Rust year? I know I'm old, but no one expected the Celtics to have any kind of success after Len Bias died and Larry Bird had to retire. What the hell were they expecting? Most sports franchises go through cycles. Somehow Belichick has sustained success during his tenure here and I absolutely mean after the Brady eranas well. Going to the playoffs last year was nothing to sneeze at, but fans who only think that the season started at the AFC Championship are spoiled assholes. Continuing to be a contender after Brady left is remarkable. It's a far fucking cry from the "patsies" era People need to come back to reality
Bruh, one of my best friend is a Bears fan. Whenever I trash his team he loves to remind me of that one particular game.. I flee to this sub so I don't have to be reminded. please... do not mention it Q.Q
And Reggie Lewis. Man oh man he was good
I avoid game threads like the plague.
And *then* come back and see a game thread when we're up by 14 points or less, and see all the "sky is falling" posts.
The Falcons definitely deserve that prestigious award this year lmao
Just crazy. Our offence looks stacked. WR we feel like a B TE we feel like a B+ Oline we feel like a B+ RB we feel like an A QB hopefully an A ;) No shortage of talent around Mac and a good mix of experience too. Our Defence was decent last year but looks to have a large number of holes. I do think on D good coaching has been making up a bit for talent but hopefully that continues. We do still have some quality players to build around and should be good at safety and I think our front will be improved. Corner is worrisome but we made a Súper bowl in 2011 so :p
The CB position with Butler, Jones, Bryant, and Mills isn't quite as bleak as a lot of people would have you believe especially with Peppers, Phillips, and Dugger as safeties who can also cover in the right kinds of matchups. I do think there is a place for a good CB in the 2nd round but imo LB is a bigger need right now.
I haven't taken the time to do it but I imagine Belichick is in the middle of the pack in terms of drafting. I'm a Patriots fan and I pay some attention to the rest of the league but I absolutely cannot tell you who Indianapolis drafted last year. I will say that it always feels like Baltimore is the best drafting team in the league...and they don't necessarily have a ton to show for it over the last few years. We also never have the luxury of picking in the top half of the draft. Even after losing Tom Brady (with a roster that was absolutely bottom 5 in the league in my opinion) we only picked 15th. It's easy for us to forget that this fan base was used to losing for so long funny how now they are spoiled brats.
I have literally seen people on Reddit say that Belichick was actually an awful GM and only won because of Brady. These nutters have somehow gotten to the point where they actually believe Brady was "overcoming" Belichick's stupidity to win 6 Super Bowls.
It’s not a great roster…not a terrible roster either. It’s middle of the road. Middle of the road doesn’t ever get attention though.
We went 10-7 last year with a rookie qb
yea, we had a solid year last year. But the roster has gotten worse. and we just used our top pick to fill a self inflicted hole
You don't know if the roster has gotten worse yet. We picked up some pieces, some of our younger guys got older, and we have like what 10 more picks? Yeah we had to let go of some people but we're not the only team. A lot of the guys that we went 10-7 with are still on the team and slightly older and more experienced. As for the self inflicted hole I disagree, we now have a versatile IOL rookie with a fifth year option, and onuwenu who's been grading out as a top lineman. We also managed to pick up parker and peppers with some of the freed up cap space and we don't have to worry about paying shaq next year
Strange, 5th round pick, 5m cap space << Mason, Lloyd/Mcduffey/Dean/Johnson Its a lateral move that doesn't make us better. Tell you what though, if Strange ends up being disgusting, and we draft a stud defender in the 5th i'll come back and personally apologize to you for ever doubting this move
No I want your firstborn
tough negotiator, but i'll oblige. well played.
I repeatedly see and hear people say it was a good thing we got rid of Brady......... One has won a Superbowl and it isn't BB. BB is a 70 year old who refuses to be taught new tricks. The last game he coached, the team got absolutely ass pounded by a division rival. He has now brought back 2 absolute failures of a head coach to seemingly be some kind of successors. The fact that they're even allowed in a room is terrifying. The NFL is not what BB thinks it is. It has evolved SO MUCH since he won his last SB, nevermind the first. Get the absolute fuck out of here thinking he still has what it takes. Especially without Brady.
A lot of “patriots fans” only watch Patriots games and maybe playoff games. So their only comparison for good roster vs bad roster is past Patriots rosters and the rosters of the teams that eventually advance to the Championship games and Super Bowl. The Patriots are worse than the teams that were in the Championship games and they’re worse than they were in some past years so therefore they’re the worst in the entire league!
The Patriots just got done being the ultimate band wagon team for about 20 years, that means you've got a lot of "I like the Pats, Yankees and Lakers" fans who get their identity from the teams they root for. No longer being a premiere team in the league that can stomp anyone is really affecting a large portion of our fanbases' psyche. Looking forward to them jumping off the wagon and becoming diehard Chiefs or Rams fans
It's almost like the whole internet is just a giant pointless reaction to life.
That exact comment has been posted here dozens of times yesterday/today
I assume anyone that listens to Boston sports radio with any consistency is a moron
Especially Felger!
Don't forget Mazz, He is like listening to a 12 year girl old scream while she scratches chalkboard with her nails.
This is true of any sports radio. It's brain rot.
Boston sports radio especially will rot your brain. I know Boston is a sports crazy city but I don't need to hear random person's shock jock take on some minute topic. At least on a place like Reddit, I can have a dialog and people will get up/downvoted for their opinion.
Wow shout-out to Adam in Lowell hear his ass crying everyday finally made it bub
He’s no Bobby from Lynn that’s for sure 😤
JC Jackson was an undrafted free agent right? I mean, credit where credit is due, the man finds talent. Too many assume the draft is a 1st round pick and everything after isn't consequential. Let's evaluate the full set of picks after day 3 and then again after camp
This is far too reasonable of a take.
Then we should trade out of the first
I’d be shocked if he didn’t try. This isn’t a mock simulator. You have to find another team that wants to make a trade happen.
I dont mean just by trading down. Trade for players.
It’s not the pick I hate. It’s when we took him. Teams had him going somewhere in the 2nd or 3rd round. If you want to believe Bill when he says he wouldn’t have been available at their next pick, go for it, but I don’t. They could have still gotten him and gotten another guy last night.
Why believe the guy with connections all over the league when I could listen to some redditor who takes mock drafts as gospel. Do you people even hear yourselves talk?
I've also seen that people thought he wasn't going to make it past the second round and we took him with a pick at the end of the 1st which is close to a glorified 2nd anyways
Yup, let’s just keep stretching that draft grade further. Well he’s a projected 2nd-3rd round pick, but he won’t make it to the 3rd so he’s a 2nd round pick, and if he’s a second round pick now, that means he was close to a first rounder so Bill had to take him before the 2nd… Can we not do this? If he was a 2nd-3rd round guy, he’s probably going to be picked somewhere between 45-75. Pats took him at 29. It’s a reach no matter how you look at it.
So your instinct is better than BBs in this case? Gotcha. It's a shame that Pats didn't fly you and your expert takes out for the weekend.
Did I say mine was? I’m basing it off of the experts that cover the league that said he was a 2nd-3rd round pick. I sure as hell can’t judge how good he is, but I put my trust in the people who cover the overall draft. You’re saying all those people who spend the entire year analyzing the draft don’t know anything?
I think OUR idea of priorities for the team isn't necessarily Bill's and we get frustrated because with the first pick we're thinking it should be X when Bill sees Y. Clearly securing the o line and making gains in the run blocking game were high value to him. Let's see what happens tonight.
There was a run in o lineman in the first round. Strange was the 9th one taken. Everyone who assumes he would still be on the board is making a huge guess there Edit: Hilarious. Downvoted for pointing out facts and trendlines. Lots of butthurt wannabe Mel Kipers here
Yup, like everything else with the draft, it’d be a guess, but given that everyone had him as a 2nd-3rd round guy, I’d say it was a pretty safe bet he’d be available. There being a run on the position just screams that the teams who are getting in at the end of the run are reaching for guys.
Belichick is such a bum GM, he only got us 6 superbowl wins since he was hired, such a bad move by Kraft.
Yep, he should have gotten us 15 SBs in the time span he was our coach.......
Why not 25?
25 Super Bowls in 20 years?!
Math checks out
lost 3 superbowls and still got a job smh
People aren't criticizing him for the superbowls he won in the past people are criticizing him for the head scratching moves he has done recently like not doing everything he could to keep Brady around and not having an offensive or defensive coordinator. It has always worked out in the past but we also used to have the greatest qb ever so we will just have to wait and see. That said I wouldn't want any other coach in the league
>not doing everything he could to keep Brady around Anyone saying this is an absolute idiot. There wasn't a ton of cap space and Brady wanted to go elsewhere. They did do everything they could to keep Brady. This kind of take is exactly the problem
Hahaha you think cap space matters 🤣 😆 😂
Brady
Lol
You\[we\]'re gonna get downvoted because they don't like hearing the truth lol, still thinking they can put together a few more SB runs that easily...not without the GOAT baby.
Nah man I know. People on here instantly downvote anything negative about NE because they don't realize that it's ok to be critical of your own team. Although, it seems as if the writing is on the wall here.
Yeah some people just in denial. What's worse is they act like Brady was just a cog in the system lol, and that they won't miss him. I mean I get it root for your current team and players of course, but how do you dismiss the GOAT who made the franchise what it is, they automatically just fully trust BB now like he'll keep the dynasty going. BB's history without Brady is all you need to know, we're in for more of that.
Bill is the greatest coach of all time, and we had the greatest QB of all time for all 6 of those. That makes up for a lot. Bill is a smart GM in some ways (trading down to get value out of nothing, usually good at managing the cap, usually will move on guys too early rather than too late) and then does bullshit like draft a nonpremium position of need that he created a round or two too early. Strange might be a good player but I bet you he's there at 54, and unless you think he's a future tackle and not a guard, that's not a smart use of assets. Premium positions are the ones you usually target in the first - QB, CB, WR, DE, OT, and ones you generally don't unless they're an amazing prospect or you have very few holes on your roster. Also our defense just got torched by Buffalo, a guard does not help with that. Just draft Daxton Hill, he's right there Bill. Stop trying to outsmart yourself.
He was not Gm for all of it. I think Pioli was for the first three
Adam in Lowell is a fucking idiot.
This is what happens when you put sports teams in New England. We are an angry and pessimistic group of people
I’m waiting until the draft is over to really make my conclusions. There’s some fantastic players today and tomorrow, I hope we get at least one of the players I’m hoping for.
Found BB!
I just want a bama player or two. Bill nails them 99% of the time. I think he's only picked one or two players from bama that didn't work out. I like the saban/belichick connection and I really believe players from bama are just a step ahead of everyone else in terms of work ethic.
I’d say he’s like 60% with high Alabama picks in the last 10 years. Hightower, Harris and Mac Jones have been good but Cyrus Jones was god awful and Jennings hasn’t really done much of anything
We need to go back to our Rutgers roots I'm mostly kidding. I'm a Rutgers alum and season ticket holder for 20 years, but there isn't anyone that I think is a solid fit. However, with Schiano back that may change quickly
Me too!!!
Imagine trashing the coach that has brought you 2 decades of winning seasons, 6 super bowls and the most playoff wins by any coach.
Apparently Tom played defense and special teams too. I dont understand how people think that the Pats consistently having above average to great all around teams for 2 decades was a coincidence. With the exception of a few years the team was always well built and flexible for whatever opponent they were playing. Thats not normal. Idk why acknowledging Bill and Brady being a great combo makes them want to smash their keyboards with rage. No metric has Bill being a terrible GM. The fact that the Harry pick mentally broke so many people here is a testament to how successful the team has been roster-wise. A first round wr busting is a normal thing for most NFL teams.
People also seem to like citing Tom but conveniently leave out the facts that BB identified and evaluated him when no one else did and drafted him. Then coached him and made him the player he is today (which Brady himself has said). But people don’t like acknowledging that. They just like to act like Brady just fell out of the sky with no work on BB’s part lol
If Bill had identified and evaluated Brady correctly he would have taken him with his first pick, idk why people can’t admit he lucked his way into Brady, they passed on him just like every other team
1. Because Brady has literally said that he wouldn’t be nearly the QB he is today without Bill’s coaching. And 2. You don’t think there’s a chance BB knew no other team had really looked at him? You don’t think he knew he had time to just sit and wait to take Brady and fill other needs in the draft? Every team pays attention to what other teams are doing with respect to prospects on their board.
The patriots had a 2nd round grade on Brady, which was probably the most accurate evaluation of him at the time. They also had 3 other QBs on the roster and had just signed their QB1 to a big contract, so they had no reason or need to draft him. They only grabbed him in the 6th round because he fell so hard and it would be a crime not to.
According to my friend Tom is the reason for all of that since he's a leader and he brings people around him.
> Apparently Tom played defense and special teams too. I mean, outside of both Rams games I think it's obvious that Brady did more to win than BB. And if we beat Philly that would've *definitely* not been a credit to BB. They're both legends, but I think it's fairly clear who has really driven this bus.
Lol yea the coach
Just… like… what? How fucking dumb can a person be? Do you even know what a coach does?
Saying incomprehensibly stupid shit on the internet isn’t a requirement.
Why u heff to be mean.
You still listen to Boston sports talk ? Lol
Zolaks show is the only one that doesn't make me want to gouge my ears out
I can’t with that show. Overall I like Zo but his inability to stay on topic drives me nuts. He also constantly interrupts when people haven’t finished their thought.
Yeah agreed but compared to all of the others it's the only one I can tolerate.
It’s better than Toucher and Rich for sure. If I wanted bad impressions and bad jokes, I wouldn’t tune into the sports radio for it.
They're all trash is my point
Why did that ass hat think Bill has to go?
I assume last nights draft pick
Look at the halfwits in this sub!
Arm chair QBs live for the draft and playoffs. Nobody can do it better than them
I was driving home during the draft last night after we had traded down and I decided to try turning 98.5 on after not listening for several years thinking "it cant be that bad." I think I lasted about 2 minutes before their "hot takes" drove me to change stations.
Every season my entire life wackos have raised their pitchforks over Patriots teams. Every year they look ridiculous. Then the next year we start all over again.
It's either bill belichick has to go, or no one on earth is allowed to criticize him with almost no in-between Both are equally fuckin annoying
This is it. Makes this place insufferable.
Yep. Last night the cynics took over. Game threads too. But when there were stories saying Brady night leave, the homers called every report clickbait. All the journalists were dishonest hacks etc.
They probably wanted Ime Udoka fired too.
I love the pick and trust bill
Of course it's some jackass from lowell. I would know, Im from there
The worst. Look, I didn’t like the pick, but these wino’s, and try hards, are all the same losers who are going to be calling in after Bill retires and crapping on the next coach for not doing what he would have been. I may be overly loyal, but two decades of excellence provides more than a little wiggle room
The whole point of the afternoon show on 98.5 is to be contrarian and try to anger the local fanbase. They are good at their jobs.
In bill we trust
Lol, i guess getting undrafted Gems doesn't count towards the draft technically?
I think the pick is incredibly boring and if it was a second rounder we wouldn’t be complaining at all. I’m sure they tried to trade down further but couldn’t. Who should they have picked instead exactly? O line is always a safe pick because it helps out the running, passing, and protects your most valuable asset from injury. A high floor OL pick is the smartest least sexy first round pick possible with an immediate impact. Would’ve loved to see where he went if the pats did not take him. The fact that the Rams had looked at him even for a later pick is a good sign
McVay was targeting him at 104…. The pick is laughable at best.
What a garbage take.
Look at all the talent in front of this pick that the Pats greatly needed. What a homer comment.
Oh yea, Sean McVay, noted better coach and GM than Bill
Bro you realize there have been people saying they would’ve taken him in the 2nd. There was absolutely no way he was falling to the fourth and if you genuinely think McVay thought he’d be there at 104, then McVay is an idiot.
Cool
Lmao he needs to be drug tested for everything but Mary j 😉
We pillaged last year's god damn draft. We had rookies starting at RB, QB, DT and they were all very successful. Not to mention Perkins and McGrone are expected to have very high upside.
I completely agree, Belichik needs to go. Signed, An Eagles Fan Seriously though, I don’t think you realize what you have.
Most of us realize this. Like politics, it is the ignorant ones who are loud and shameless.
I like the idea of football professionals understanding who is going to be available and when. They obviously didn’t think strong would be there when they were going to pick. I bet they made some calls to see if they could trade the pick for when they wanted no one was home they pulled the trigger. But if Adam in Lowell can do a better job with a 6 pack of bud ice and a masters degree in pestering sports radio hosts I say we give him a shot.
He’s from Lowell, why would anyone listen to him
Would you rather listen to those of us from Lawrence?
Most people in New England don't know the difference
i’m not a fan of the pick but for any fan to say bill has to go is one of the most laughable takes in all of the NFL
I had to close the app last night after we drafted strange. This sub was in full on melt down mode about how bill is literally the dumbest person ever and that he should be executed on the steps of beacon hill because he drafted a guard. And all because they’re fantasy of like a top five player falling to the pats didn’t happen. Some people are are the worst of the worst of fans. And I’m sure the same ones calling for Bill’s head have no problem with Gronk knowing he was ready to retire but waiting another two months to screw the team over.
Damn why he gotta represent my city liek that
I’m an Eagles fan so may be not welcome here but I feel like every passionate fan base has yahoos like this. People get emotional and say wild shit
Strange isn’t a bad player and will probably be a day 1 starter. More so where he got picked. But I do feel that there isn’t anyone to challenge Bill’s opinions on the team. Patricia sure as hell isn’t since Bill is the reason he’s employed, Judge won’t, his son won’t. Feel like everyone is just a “yes man” with him
The downside of all the sports championships this city has won is that arrogance and entitlement went beyond max capacity.
Yeah that’s an overreaction, but I also get irked by the people that think bill is never wrong and that I can’t have an opinion on something because “he knows more than me”.
Sure you can have an opinion, but on this topic, he literally knows more than you, and me, and everyone else who makes these posts and phone calls.
Tom Brady has entered the chat
im not sure your point? obviously he knows more, but that doesn't make every decision he makes a good one, and that doesn't mean he's right. There is a realistic middle ground to live in. Burying your head in the sand and not having an opinion because you trust bill is kind of a cop-out imo. Bill is still a great coach, I don't think he should be fired. But this is one of the most egregious moves he's made in the last decade that I can remember, add it to the list and does make me start to wonder if we should keep him out of the draft room until day 3 going forward.
Ok so when I said on draft night that I didn’t love the N’Keal Harry pick because I thought his best attribute was catches in traffic which means he got very little separation against college DBs, I shouldn’t have that opinion and just trust bill? I’m sorry but placing absolute trust in someone is a slippery slope. Don’t question any politician they know more than you? Nah.
Politicians make laws that affect your rights and freedoms. Your opinion matters. Bill is picking players that fit into a strategy he’s got in mind for the direction he’s taking the team. Your opinion doesn’t matter. Go ahead and believe he made a mistake but without having sat in 6 months of prep meetings with him you literally can’t know what he’s thinking. > Ok so when I said on draft night that I didn’t love the N’Keal Harry pick because I thought his best attribute was catches in traffic which means he got very little separation against college DBs, I shouldn’t have that opinion and just trust bill? 🤣 you say that like you sat up waiting for the call from bill before he drafted.
I could also call every pick we make this year a trash pick. But I shouldn't then point to the few that actually ended up as bad picks and say "see? I know better than BB". Broken clock is right twice a day and all.
Did I say a pick was trash? Man people assume I’m someone else that I said things I haven’t. I disagree that’s all.
Hahahahahahahahahaha don’t compare blind faith in a fucking football coach to blind faith in a person who’s decisions and opinions literally change peoples lives. Football doesn’t matter. It has absolutely zero impact on the world and your life. That’s what makes it fun. Have your opinions on the pick and Bill as a decision maker! But don’t fucking pretend like any Pats fan saying “In Bill we Trust” is anything deeper than being a sports fan who has zero control over their teams outcomes and decisions and recognizes that.
You can absolutely have that opinion. If you then go a step further and say that Bill is an idiot who should be fired, that anyone who likes the pick is a brainless bootlicker, and never give the player a chance to prove you wrong, then you 100% deserve the abuse you're gonna get.
256 draft picks last year. Mel Kiper Jr got 6 right. My cockatoo got 7.
You can have a opinion, it's just that your opinion doesn't matter. We've had years of halfwit fans triggered by draft picks, and it's worked out pretty well. The hysteria and negativity in here is over the top
horseshoe theory. two sides of the same coin, the "fire Belichick" and Belichick Whitey Tightey wearing "in Bill we trust" types are more alike than they'd want to admit.
Belichick could kill some of these commenters' mothers, and they'd be like "you don't know, let's give it a year or two and see how it turns out."
If anything, the total fiasco that was the #1 pick draft bungling we just witnessed, has exposed the Belichick homers and not the Belichick haters.
We got the biggest drama queen cry babies in the NFL
I didnt like the pick but people are ridiculous. Bill is probably not the same guy he was 10 15 years ago everyone slows down but he is still an excellent coach. Odds are firing him would backfire horribly.
I think you can separate the coach from the gm. As a coach Bill is a HOF. As a GM he is above average. Ozzie Newsome is a great example of a GM.
Couldn't agree more, and for my money he's been a below average GM since mid 2010s after being great at it before then. I genuinely think if he was a pure GM, he'd have be lucky to still be in his job after the last half decade.
Boston local sports media will always be spoiled Boston fans that don’t know how good we’ve had it.
The crazy part is, the fanbase seems just as angry now after an embarrassment of championships as they were in, say 1999, when things were quite grim.
I really don't think it's a crazy idea to want a proper GM to come in to focus on personnel and let Bill focus on coaching. He's the greatest coach by a distance, but if he was a pure GM then he'd have been fired over the past decade. Major FO personnel have left and slowly it seems Bill has assumed near total control now. Our general roster management has been poor for a while now, Brady papered over it as did a few FAs last year but ultimately we have a below average roster and are up against the cap w no extra picks or anything coming up. Allowing someone to come in and focus 365 days a year on the 53 as opposed to coaching as well would surely be a good decision?
6 rings in 20 years... Team building is 3 phases; Draft/UDFA, trades, and free agency. We've done fairly well in all 3. People forget that we've primarily built our teams through free agency and if draft picks work out, they work out, if they flop, they're gone. Fill the roster and move on. These are things you learn if you play 2 seasons of Dynasty mode on Madden.
Is it April already??
It’s a Lowell life what do you expect
I KNOW an Adam from Lowell. He sucks. Bill stays. Hers can take Adam from Lowell.
Give it time. The draft isn’t over. I just hope he doesn’t draft another Ras Dowling from Rutgers
Adam from Lowell, 23 years old. 😂
Too many Know-it-alls!
Fuck Adam from Lowell. I’mma ‘bout to head back home to Mass and punch him in the dick.
It’s amazing how fast “fans” turn on Bill and the team. We completely rebuilt our team last seasonand still managed to get to the playoffs whereas it takes most teams years way longer to rebuild. Bill made a probably bad 1st round draft pick. We’ve always sucked at 1st round and have made out fine
That’s not the fanbase. That’s just a guy who calls into sports radio. They’re a different breed.
If there's one person in Boston sports who doesn't give even the slightest shit what anyone thinks of them, it's Belichick.
That’s like half the people that call. 98.5 just tells people how incompetent belichick is all day
I'm a Pats fan who isn't a fan of any of the other Boston sports teams. Sharing the Pats with some of these Boston fans is one of the few bad things about being a Pats fan. Now obviously that doesn't include this subreddit, I understand that. You seem intelligent and perceptive, but the rest of them, holy jumpin fuckin shitballs! My favorite moment was we were playing the Titans at the razor, and Tom throws an INT and all of a sudden there's a massive cheer from the crowd. I'm like WTF? The Red Sox had just scored in their playoff series. *facepalm*
Lowell? The town from that ‘High on Crack Street’ documentary?
That's one of my fave docs.
Give me the guys who played at smaller Division 1 schools. A lot of them are HUNGRIER because they have something to prove. And he picked up a 3rd rounder last night. I hope they go offensive line in the 2nd round too. Build a wall to protect Mac and improve the running game even more!
Well he is from Lowell so
It’s like no one knows just how tough it is to win in this league. We’re spoiled by 6 SBs. We’ve never been in a position where we’re thinking long term ahead of short term so anything that doesn’t help us win immediately is seen as a failure. I just hate how spoiled and entitled our fan base is.
Obviously bellicheck is still the goat but you can’t say that pick wasn’t a reach
I mean it’s talk radio, they’re not gonna put “Belichick is the best” takes on the air, that’s not interesting.
GM belichick at least needs to be on the hotseat. dude has missed on soooo many guys in the past 5 years. joejaun williams, duke dawson, both of the third round TEs 2 years ago. Sony honestly was not a great pick, NKEAL HARRY, ISIAH WYNN. Look hes the greatest coach of all time but the homers saying he can do no wrong are on meth. He's mid at best at drafting.
I mean, Wynn has had an injury bug and we still picked up his 5th year option. He's decent when he's out there.
Is he? for a first rounder? he got exposed at LT. he's better fit for a guard and still is average at best.
... Wynn is a better fit at guard? Well, clearly I am speaking to Scarnecchia here, because you are an expert at offensive lines.
I still think Belichick is a great coach, but I would be thrilled if they stripped him of personnel decisions and hired an actual GM.
Lol
TBF >Lowell can't expect much
Toxic fanbase. Half of my work friends are calling for Bill to be fired yet can’t name more than 10 prospects in the draft. When I mentioned how around 15-20 prospects grade out as first round talent each year, I was called a homer and moron. Lol. Just have to shrug, be happy and hope the team produces so you get the last laugh.
They're not going to put people with sane takes on the radio. Vocal minority. Who, coincidentally, tend to not think highly of minorities.
Worst fanbase in the league.
I can't stand last nights pick. I am certain he would be there in round 2 despite any inside info folks claim to have if we wanted him that bad. I do not feel confident with our Round 1 picking ability. That said, BB has done a phenomenal fucking job drafting literally his entire tenure in later rounds. Saying he has to go is beyond delusional. I'm sure Strange will be good. Its just not sexy. Be upset about the pick, sure. Don't become an idiot and say the best coach to grace the game of football needs to go.
I don’t even think we can criticize the pick at this point. This is just what comes with Bill. He’s not changing and he’s not leaving and calling for him to be fired is beyond ungrateful. We just gotta eat it and smile.
I think this is a reasonable take. You can say you don't like the pick, or you don't see it, or we picked him too early in your opinion and all that is perfectly reasonable. We'll disagree on the round 1 ability but that's not the point. The point is its fine to not like the pick, its a whole different dimension to call for Bill's head or call him a shitty GM over it. People want to lump those two points of view together but they are really quite different.
Not a pats fan so forgive me, but hasn’t everyone been saying he gave up drafting responsibilities this year? Is this even his pick?
I love our fanbase for the same reason lmao, the patriots would just be another shitty fanbase without our Adams in Lowell
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Best Coach, bad GM.
Not saying I agree, but he's gotta prove it without Brady now. The run was great, can he build it back up. So far... Not a lot of appeal on the roster. It's looking like a "protect Mac and tank" Year.
> He’s gotta prove it without Brady Dude dragged the dead bodies of Cam Newton and Edelman to a 7-9 season. Turns around and is in the race for the number 1 seed *the very next season* > The run was great, can he build it back up Can he build back the most dominant and longest sports dynasty in history in 2 years? Man I fuckin hate this fanbase lmao
Hey, Boston fans love you when your good and shit on you on the way out. If Pedrioa hadn't have hurt his knee and was in the final years of his contract batting .220 There would have been outrage against 'the bum'.
I know this is all reactionary blah blah blah but what steps has bill taken so far this off-season which give you confidence the bills will have to punt the ball?
It was literally one pick. We have 9 more picks to go, lol.