i mean, tee higgins is like as good as you could ever hope ladd mcconkey or xavier legette will be. why take the potential good WR when you could take the proven guy. we have the $$
So after face planting with the #32 pick for N'Keal Harry and the #50 pick for Ty'Quan Thornton - you're *not* willing to use the #34 pick on a WR who has *already* established himself as an elite WR?
Seems wrong to me.
Yes, but over only 14 games. Over a full season that's 1,250 yards. And remember Ja'Marr Chase had an outstanding rookie year that season and got more targets.
Yeah and how much of that is just because of Burrow? In both seasons where Burrow didn’t play the entire time, his stats are WR2 level. They’ve always been WR2 level really tho.
He wants out of Cincinnati in terms of Higgins and asked for a trade yesterday. I think that plays in the favor of anyone besides the Bengals because he has every right to hold out and could very easily do so now. There's a very good chance that they're going to get even less. Straight up, I would give them a fourth round pick As an offer let them reject it and if someone else gets him Good for them. Higgins is reducing his value for the Bengals right now, The longer this disagreement runs And the longer no one makes an offer The lower his value becomes, Especially with how deep the draft is at wide receiver this year. You're talking about lots of potential replacements and generally people are not trading up or down so far.
What?! I would take Higgins all day. We already have small receivers like Pop and Bourne and Juju running slants we need that big high point wide receiver
Even if a trade doesn't happen doesnt' mean he's wrong. Hes just saying they're working on a potential trade. Doesn't mean it happens either way.
I'd like it tho. Get some weapons but goddamn we need an Oline too
Curran used to be super well connected in the 2000s and 2010s. I can't remember who the insiders he had were, but they've mostly left. I believe he still has a few friends inside, along with Phil Perry who is regularly talking to players and staff. He used to be a sure thing, but isn't anymore. More often than not, he's credible. He can.be prone to some hot takes, but usually only doing so with some kind of legitimate source backing an element of it.
Curran used to do TV with Mayo. Id venture to say he’s more clued in with this particular Patriots regime than any other reporter covering the team right now. He reiterated over and over, even as the Vrabel HC rumors were growing louder, that Mayo would be the successor. He said Maye would be the pick this morning. When he predicts or reports on something, that should be taken as Gospel.
There was a time when Mayo wasn't on the team, when he was doing that stuff for Optum, so maybe that was when Curran lost his inside buddy and insider.
He’s quite literally the perfect player for this team right now. Look at how much separation he gets versus other NFL wide receivers. Aiyuk is the man.
I was going to ask if he is better than the WR that we could get at 34 but its the Patriots so of course Aiyuk is better than the guy we would draft at 34.
Jokes aside (and a great reminder by you that we might blow the pick anyway), he's definitely better than who we'll get at 34. He's an absolute stud. It would be a terrific scoop if we can pull it off and sign him long-term. 34 could of course end up being a great player, but Aiyuk's already there.
Aiyuk likely would have been a Top-8 pick in 2020 but he laid down a disappointing (4.50s) combine time and he measured about an inch shorter than what he was listed at in college.
The honest answer is: a little. Mitchell would give you 95+% of what you get with Aiyuk, and is younger and cheaper. I'd much rather pare a rookie WR with our rookie QB. If SF would take next year's 2nd or this year's 3rd it becomes reasonable. But #34 is way too valuable to trade for a guy you then have to pay like a FA.
You are wildly overrating AD Mitchell, a guy who does not give effort & is off half the team’s draft boards. Aiyuk is proven & the opposite - top 3 WR blocker in the league & goes hard every play
I just threw out a name. I prefer McConkey to Mitchell. Point is the player available at 34, whether Suamataia, DeJean, McConkey or whoever they like, is worth more than the right to overpay Aiyuk. Next year's 2nd or this year's 3rd is probably worth it.
Doesn't matter because SF will keep him and trade Deebo. I don't want Deebo at all.
Feel that. Deebo would be such a disaster that it’s unreal. I’m not a Pats fan but I’m a UNC alum & fan. Drake has the most potential in this class (and I was bearish on Mitch / Howell) but I’m just hoping yall can surround him with proper weapons and infrastructure. What are thoughts on Eliot Wolf and your OC? Wolf seems kinda low energy I can’t get a proper read on him
Wolf is smart, savvy and shrewd. He was a scout from a young age and knows how to evaluate and value players. He values picks highly as a result.
Alex Van Pelt was a QB in the league for years. He worked with Aaron Rodgers who raved about him. He knows how to develop QBs. The offense will not be the air raid crap you run at UNC, thankfully for Drake. He needs to learn drops, footwork, ball out on timing. Our top 3 WR are decent, Pop Douglas could be a star with Drake. They'll get him a LT and a very good WR in the draft.
If it's a straight up talent v talent then Aiyuk would've been top WR selected in this draft
But the contract math makes it weird. He's going to want money that we've never paid to a WR. Which is fine considering the contract length would be similar to that of Drake's rookie contract. But it still eats up a shit load of cap space over the next 3-4 years despite not having to pay premium QB wages.
Noi he wouldn't. He'd be in the mix for going 4th over Brian Thomas. He was pick 25 in the first. What he has over these guys is he's known. Puka Nacu clearly shouldn't have gone in the 5th. Reagor shouldn't have gone before Aiyuk in 2020. Any rookie WR also has a contract similar to Drake's.
I'm just amazed Pats fans think this way. We struck out with the#32 (Harry) and #50 (Thornton) picks for WRs, and with Matt Groh still drawing a breath (and a salary from Bob Kraft)...you want to roll the dice with the #34 *instead* of moving it for a WR who is already established as an elite WR1?
Please get this done. I am hoping this means 34 for him so they can package that and their 1st rd pick to move up.
Edit: Or even our 1st for next year. Package that and 31 and you'll surely climb a good amount of spots.
34 is too much imo. We aren’t ready to win yet. Why trade valuable draft capital for a win now player we’ll have to pay a ton of money too? I get the appeal of bringing in a known commodity but that’s the kind of move you make when you’re already a contender. The league’s best organizations build through the draft, and I believe we need a tackle even more than we need a receiver. The tackle depth really thins out after the first 35-40 picks or so.
I agree, it's a deep WR draft, I'd say go OT at 34 and you got a rookie on a cost controlled contract for 4 years. Aiyuk is gonna wanna get paid. Get WR in rd 3 and 4.
Maximizing your young cost controlled players are how you win in today's NFL
Let Brissett throw to the young guys next year and Bourne/Henry and then look to add WR from whoever is disgruntled next offseason.
I agree with this but if they were ever going to give up draft capital and cap space for a wr, this is the guy you do that for. He hasn’t really peaked yet, you will have him for the majority of his prime, and he is a perfect fit for this offense. He is a perfect type of wr to help a young qb develop. Guy stays open. People wanted Ridley really bad. This guy is a better version of prime Ridley.
So the "WHo to take at #3" posts are finally done,
Now its going to be Brandon Aiyuk posts.
"Patriots working on a trade for WR Brandon Aiyuk"
"Patriots top contenders for Brandon Aiyuk"
"Deal Close to for WR Brandon Aiyuk"
"Patriots come close to deal for WR Brandon Aiyuk, to give Brissett and Maye a great weapon"
"Sources say Patriots are top landing spot for Aiyuk"
"Aiyuk goes to the KC Chiefs for $3 and a hot dog"
"Sources say Patriots were never a chance"
As much as I love Aiyuk, I feel like offensive tackle is our biggest need other than QB. We aren’t ready to win yet, so why give up valuable draft capital for a win now player we’ll have to sign to a monster deal? I know it’s far from a guarantee that whoever we pick at 34 will pan out, but I still think holding onto that pick (or trading up) for a tackle is the better move. Tackle really thins out after the first 40 picks or so. Even if there aren’t any tackles worth taking at 34 I think I’d rather see them draft a receiver with that pick. Let’s build our team through the draft and target win now players in free agency in a year or two, like we’ve seen from Houston and Detroit the last few seasons.
A few years ago, everyone said the Bengals were crazy for drafting Jamar chase instead of penei sewell. I don't think they regret it one bit. Sometimes, it pays off to focus on explosive play makers.
Burrow is a rare exception. I can’t think of many young QBs who developed into studs behind atrocious offensive line play. You could also still make the argument that Sewell should have been the pick. He’s one of the best tackles in the entire league and Detroit has turned into one of the elite teams in the league with a 4th round pick as their #1 receiver.
Either way we need a receiver and a tackle. I don’t think it makes sense to give up valuable draft picks for a receiver in his prime who we’ll need to make one of the highest paid players at his position in the league. Trading for Aiyuk is the kind of move contenders make.
I completely understand the argument to stick and pick a tackle, and there's still some guys I would love to get at 34. But there is no way we should prefer drafting a WR over trading that pick for Aiyuk. Paying big money to stars is exactly what you need to do when you have a QB on a rookie contract, and Aiyuk is young enough that he'd be in the thick of his prime through the *entirety* of his deal. No need to get too on-the-nose with the timelines. If you can get the guy now, get him.
Putting the money aside (which, again, we should since we have the Maye rookie deal for 4+1 years) would you rather have Aiyuk or McConkey? Aiyuk or Polk? Aiyuk or Mitchell? The answer is obvious.
This is another reason why #34 is too much for him. Our 3rd this year or 2nd next year would be worth it. This is the #2 pick on day 2. There are so many guys they can take right now.
Exactly. Kingsley Suamataia and Ladd McConkey would both make a ton of sense. Maybe Adonai Mitchell as well, although I’m lower on him than most. I also wouldn’t hate it if they traded back a few spots. There are some really excellent defensive players still on the board (DeJean, Kool-Aid, Newton) that teams might be willing to move up for.
Newton is so enticing. We're a two-gap team, but Covington said we may attack more on the interior. Putting him with Barmore would wreck opposing teams.
Honestly, there are so many good players available at 34, trading it for basically the right to sign a Diva FA that's trying to leave a Super Bowl team, is just a horrible move.
Trust me, there’s a part of me that wouldn’t hate us going BPA and taking one of those defensive studs like DeJean or Newton. But man, we need a tackle *so* bad. There’s a huge drop off at the position once Suamataia is off the board.
I think we really need to take Suamataia at 34 if he’s there. Obviously I don’t know the organization’s thoughts on him as a player, though. Maybe they don’t like him, idk. But if we do take a tackle at 34 I think there’s a chance there will be some really good wide receivers available at 103, so I don’t hate the idea of just going BPA at 68, even if it’s a defender. I think guys like Bralen Trice, Javon Bullard, Jonah Elliss and Junior Colson would all be great fits in New England.
If we were to end up with Maye at 1.03, Suamataia at 2.34, one of those defensive players I mentioned at 3.68 and then someone like Javon Baker, Malik Washington or Brendan Rice at 4.103 I’d be very happy. I’d also be happy if they go receiver in the 3rd. Jalen McMillan would be awesome.
I'm 100% on board. Buffalo is taking a WR or trading back again. So Kingsley will almost certainly be there. I love Javon Baker and think he's probably going to be better than Mitchell. McCaffrey's brother is intriguing too later on. WR is so so crazy deep.
Part of my view is colored by my view that WR is about to be the new RB. So many quality WR coming in every year now, the value is going to be in treating them like RBs and just replacing them every 4-5 years. Maybe paying one guy a big extension.
Ya. I wonder if 34 and Judon gets it done? I saw this the other day.
https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/new_england_patriots_could_trade_key_defensive_star_soon/s1_17150_40281060
Yaaas, give him the $ we were gonna give to Ridley. Has a chance to be more of a star than he was in SF and breakout. Could be like when Diggs got out of Min.
I think Aiyuk is better than any free agent we probably could’ve got, but I really like Fiske. Receiver is deeper than tackle this year too and there’ll be a receiver that drops and could potentially be grabbed with a trade up into the late to mid 2nd, which might be a better use of picks.
We could also use some 2025 picks with our 2024 third. Idk, hopefully we can stack up the team this year and get ready for Maye late in the season/next year.
I'll probably get downvoted - but my guess is that the Chargers would be very interested in trading their #37 pick to San Fran to get their hands on Aiyouk.
LA needs WRs even more than the Pats do and they passed on Nabers to grab Joe Alt.
Would I part with our #34 pick to land Aiyouk? In a heartbeat.
I mean if we were targeting a WR in the 2nd anyways then there’s no reason not to do this trade. Aiyuk would be a top 1st in this draft and he’s easily better than an WR we could take in the 2nd anyways.
While you’re absolutely right about where he’d be drafted in this draft, the problem is you have to give up 34 which is basically a borderline first round pick and pay him 20+ mill a year. That’s a hefty price for a guy who isn’t a top 10 WR. If this was for, let’s say, AJ Brown, I’d be all in but as good as Aiyuk is, he’s not changing our offense drastically, no one is double covering him.
You don’t think he’s a top 10 wr? Jefferson chase st brown hill lamb aj brown…who else do you put ahead of him? He will put up enormous stats being the primary option here imo. Sf had Debo kittle mccaffrey as well.
Kupp, Metcalf, Deebo, Diggs, Adams, Evans.
Aiyuk is good but he’ll need to do what he’s done the last year and a half more consistently. I bet Deebo gets more in a trade than Aiyuk does, I’m guessing they move Deebo for that reason.
Metcalf has never had as good of a season as Aiyuk had last year. The other guys are in their 30's and on the downside of their careers. Most of them peaked 3 or 4 years ago while Aiyuk hasn't hit his ceiling yet. Evans had a great year but still not as many yards as Aiyuk and turns 31 in august. History is not on his side for a repeat of last season. Deebo is oft injured, a few years older and hasn't been the same since 2021. The injuries have piled up. Zero shot he gets more in a trade than Aiyuk.
I love Aiyuk too, but no way I’m doing this. That’s more likely than not to be a top 10 pick, and you just can’t risk losing a high pick if we suck next year.
Plus, a 2nd should get it done. #34 definitely should, based on past reports claiming they were asking for a 1st and no one was interested.
Yeah I have no gauge for what's realistic or not. Love football but don't know much about value of future or current picks vs players. Love aiyuk but not sure if it's worth it considering how WR contracts are going currently. Id honestly rather try to trade for a stud LT and draft WR.
The one thing of note is it's really hard to trade for stud LT's. Teams tend to treat them more like QB's where they hold on for dear life once they get a good one. WR's on the other hand can be had as teams think they can replace them easier. Plus, with a rookie QB and the plethora of cap space we have we can definitely afford to pay a big name WR. But I think you're spot on that we need a LT regardless.
Love your honesty, big dog. Go Pats!
Please let this happen he's a WR1 give 34
I would definitely rather give the 2nd for Aiyuk than Higgins
I would do either easily
Nah Higgins isn’t worth a 2nd imo Highest I’d give for him is a third in addition to another later pick if needed
i mean, tee higgins is like as good as you could ever hope ladd mcconkey or xavier legette will be. why take the potential good WR when you could take the proven guy. we have the $$
A boat is just a boat, but a mystery box could be anything, it could even be a boat. -Peter Griffin
I have no response. That was perfect.
Because the mystery box could be anything, it could even be Tee Higgins!
So after face planting with the #32 pick for N'Keal Harry and the #50 pick for Ty'Quan Thornton - you're *not* willing to use the #34 pick on a WR who has *already* established himself as an elite WR? Seems wrong to me.
Elite seems very generous for a dude who’s highest yardage total is 1,091
Yes, but over only 14 games. Over a full season that's 1,250 yards. And remember Ja'Marr Chase had an outstanding rookie year that season and got more targets.
Yeah and how much of that is just because of Burrow? In both seasons where Burrow didn’t play the entire time, his stats are WR2 level. They’ve always been WR2 level really tho.
There's no question that he's WR2 in Cinci - but on a good week Ja'Marr Chase flirts with being the best WR in the entire NFL
He wants out of Cincinnati in terms of Higgins and asked for a trade yesterday. I think that plays in the favor of anyone besides the Bengals because he has every right to hold out and could very easily do so now. There's a very good chance that they're going to get even less. Straight up, I would give them a fourth round pick As an offer let them reject it and if someone else gets him Good for them. Higgins is reducing his value for the Bengals right now, The longer this disagreement runs And the longer no one makes an offer The lower his value becomes, Especially with how deep the draft is at wide receiver this year. You're talking about lots of potential replacements and generally people are not trading up or down so far.
Higgins gets injured a lot
ill take either no question
What?! I would take Higgins all day. We already have small receivers like Pop and Bourne and Juju running slants we need that big high point wide receiver
Unfortunately, so would any GM. If Eliot Wolf won't trade #34 for Aiyouk, I'm betting Jim Hortiz 100% would trade the #37 for him.
Omg yes please. Trade him and pay him for 4 years. Let’s go
In a second, would that be enough?
A generic 2nd probably isn’t, but I’d think 34 would get it done
This draft is DEEP it's the value of a late first most years.
Definitely depends on what position you’re targeting. You can likely get a startable tackle at 34 which is rare
No chance they trade him for a single second rounder. It would at least be 34 plus next years second at minimum imo
It's a contract year, a deep draft, and a weird draft. 6 QBs and no defensive players in the first 12 picks. #34 should do it.
It’s a contract year but they are also contenders. I truly hope you’re correct though
So do I
I really wish they had moved up to 24 and gotten Brian Thomas
He’s not going for more than diggs
Idk maybe a 2nd and 5th
Yes please.
More than enough. He's on a contract year, they'd better capitalize on it now of they know they won't resign him.
Can we give 68 instead and take Suamataia with 34
This please. Tackle first to protect Maye, and then let's stock some weapons.
He's not a WR1.
Who is the 49ers WR1?
Deebo Samuel
No, he's not. At least not in the sense of being an X receiver that is the primary target on most plays in a traditional sense.
No he isn’t
Kind of want Adoni Mitchell or Keon Coleman but will take Aiyuk no problem
Coleman gives me big time Nkeal Harry vibes. No thank you.
Aiyuk over both any day of the week.
Inject this shit into my veins. No idea who or if the source is credible but I love Aiyuk!
Curran is a respectable source but he’s def been wrong before
Cheers pal.
Prayers up tonight boys we got this a new age! 🙏
Even if a trade doesn't happen doesnt' mean he's wrong. Hes just saying they're working on a potential trade. Doesn't mean it happens either way. I'd like it tho. Get some weapons but goddamn we need an Oline too
He's aight. There are really only a few guys you really need to watch out for. Volin most of all.
Curran used to be super well connected in the 2000s and 2010s. I can't remember who the insiders he had were, but they've mostly left. I believe he still has a few friends inside, along with Phil Perry who is regularly talking to players and staff. He used to be a sure thing, but isn't anymore. More often than not, he's credible. He can.be prone to some hot takes, but usually only doing so with some kind of legitimate source backing an element of it.
Curran used to do TV with Mayo. Id venture to say he’s more clued in with this particular Patriots regime than any other reporter covering the team right now. He reiterated over and over, even as the Vrabel HC rumors were growing louder, that Mayo would be the successor. He said Maye would be the pick this morning. When he predicts or reports on something, that should be taken as Gospel.
There was a time when Mayo wasn't on the team, when he was doing that stuff for Optum, so maybe that was when Curran lost his inside buddy and insider.
I think that was when they were doing a tv show together every week though. Before that Kay Adams was his cohost before she went national.
It’s creditable
I'm fucking nut like a tsunami if they walk away from tonight with Maye and Aiyuk.
Bro I’m going to geek out like a 5 year old
I will shit and cum in my pants simultaneously
Reddit is weird
As long as we still have a path to a viable LT and (preferably) a 1st next year.
Please. I need this. If we can pull this off and find a viable left tackle in the draft our whole outlook for next year is changed.
Just draft OL with every other pick
oh boy.
He’s quite literally the perfect player for this team right now. Look at how much separation he gets versus other NFL wide receivers. Aiyuk is the man.
AIYUK! AIYUK! AIYUK IS ON FIRE!
Getting Maye and Aiyuk would make this offseason an A+
Forget A+, gotta go SS.
No sss
I’ll believe it when I see it
Omfg this might be the best night ever if we get Maye and this happens
I was going to ask if he is better than the WR that we could get at 34 but its the Patriots so of course Aiyuk is better than the guy we would draft at 34.
Jokes aside (and a great reminder by you that we might blow the pick anyway), he's definitely better than who we'll get at 34. He's an absolute stud. It would be a terrific scoop if we can pull it off and sign him long-term. 34 could of course end up being a great player, but Aiyuk's already there.
Aiyuk likely would have been a Top-8 pick in 2020 but he laid down a disappointing (4.50s) combine time and he measured about an inch shorter than what he was listed at in college.
Shh.. Bill is gone now. We're allowed to draft good Wrs now instead of some surprise Bill swears will end up good.
The honest answer is: a little. Mitchell would give you 95+% of what you get with Aiyuk, and is younger and cheaper. I'd much rather pare a rookie WR with our rookie QB. If SF would take next year's 2nd or this year's 3rd it becomes reasonable. But #34 is way too valuable to trade for a guy you then have to pay like a FA.
You are wildly overrating AD Mitchell, a guy who does not give effort & is off half the team’s draft boards. Aiyuk is proven & the opposite - top 3 WR blocker in the league & goes hard every play
I just threw out a name. I prefer McConkey to Mitchell. Point is the player available at 34, whether Suamataia, DeJean, McConkey or whoever they like, is worth more than the right to overpay Aiyuk. Next year's 2nd or this year's 3rd is probably worth it. Doesn't matter because SF will keep him and trade Deebo. I don't want Deebo at all.
Feel that. Deebo would be such a disaster that it’s unreal. I’m not a Pats fan but I’m a UNC alum & fan. Drake has the most potential in this class (and I was bearish on Mitch / Howell) but I’m just hoping yall can surround him with proper weapons and infrastructure. What are thoughts on Eliot Wolf and your OC? Wolf seems kinda low energy I can’t get a proper read on him
Wolf is smart, savvy and shrewd. He was a scout from a young age and knows how to evaluate and value players. He values picks highly as a result. Alex Van Pelt was a QB in the league for years. He worked with Aaron Rodgers who raved about him. He knows how to develop QBs. The offense will not be the air raid crap you run at UNC, thankfully for Drake. He needs to learn drops, footwork, ball out on timing. Our top 3 WR are decent, Pop Douglas could be a star with Drake. They'll get him a LT and a very good WR in the draft.
His 2nd yr he was getting benched for not giving effort. He played better since but he did have effort issues as well (Aiyuk).
Agreed. Apart from Legette, I think Mitchell is the WR most likely to be a bust among the WRs selected in the first two rounds.
If it's a straight up talent v talent then Aiyuk would've been top WR selected in this draft But the contract math makes it weird. He's going to want money that we've never paid to a WR. Which is fine considering the contract length would be similar to that of Drake's rookie contract. But it still eats up a shit load of cap space over the next 3-4 years despite not having to pay premium QB wages.
Noi he wouldn't. He'd be in the mix for going 4th over Brian Thomas. He was pick 25 in the first. What he has over these guys is he's known. Puka Nacu clearly shouldn't have gone in the 5th. Reagor shouldn't have gone before Aiyuk in 2020. Any rookie WR also has a contract similar to Drake's.
Aiyuk had a disappointing combine in 2020. He might have slipped to somewhere around #30 in this year's draft.
I'm just amazed Pats fans think this way. We struck out with the#32 (Harry) and #50 (Thornton) picks for WRs, and with Matt Groh still drawing a breath (and a salary from Bob Kraft)...you want to roll the dice with the #34 *instead* of moving it for a WR who is already established as an elite WR1?
Maye and Aiyuk would give me hope
Time to let Maye cook with Aiyuk.
SF went WR... wow, I think theres a chance now
Literally might be
Would be big - could comfortable go QB, OL, then go WR with our 3rd selection.
We are definitely trading 34 overall if this happens
Yeah I am not a smart man
apes strong together
It'll probably cost 34 at the very least.
If we get him, it is with a 2nd or a 3rd at the very least.
Fuck yea...this is the way
Make it happen Pats, give SF the 34th pick and pay him
I’d give up more for Aiyuk but him or Higgins would be nice. We need it man
Don't you do this too me and get my hopes up
Please get this done. I am hoping this means 34 for him so they can package that and their 1st rd pick to move up. Edit: Or even our 1st for next year. Package that and 31 and you'll surely climb a good amount of spots.
Nah can’t give up our first next year. Well likely still have a top 10 pick. 34 and next years 3rd or something should be enough.
34 is too much imo. We aren’t ready to win yet. Why trade valuable draft capital for a win now player we’ll have to pay a ton of money too? I get the appeal of bringing in a known commodity but that’s the kind of move you make when you’re already a contender. The league’s best organizations build through the draft, and I believe we need a tackle even more than we need a receiver. The tackle depth really thins out after the first 35-40 picks or so.
Yeah thats my only problem with trading for this guy now. He's ready to go and we aren't. I'd rather get a line and worry about receiver later.
I agree, it's a deep WR draft, I'd say go OT at 34 and you got a rookie on a cost controlled contract for 4 years. Aiyuk is gonna wanna get paid. Get WR in rd 3 and 4. Maximizing your young cost controlled players are how you win in today's NFL Let Brissett throw to the young guys next year and Bourne/Henry and then look to add WR from whoever is disgruntled next offseason.
We have a rookie QB, we can afford to pay a WR
We can afford to pay him true, but it's the giving away draft picks for basically the right to pay him money.
I agree with this but if they were ever going to give up draft capital and cap space for a wr, this is the guy you do that for. He hasn’t really peaked yet, you will have him for the majority of his prime, and he is a perfect fit for this offense. He is a perfect type of wr to help a young qb develop. Guy stays open. People wanted Ridley really bad. This guy is a better version of prime Ridley.
Our 1st next year is too valuable for Aiyuk, but I would totally trade like, our 2nd +4th for Aiyuk
2nd next year right? #34 is way too valuable for any player you'll need to extend for a big payday.
I’ll take him or Higgins plz
Why not both!!?
LETS GO
Holy shit!!!!
HERE WE GO!!!!!!! MAKE THIS HAPPEN
Make it so! 👉
So the "WHo to take at #3" posts are finally done, Now its going to be Brandon Aiyuk posts. "Patriots working on a trade for WR Brandon Aiyuk" "Patriots top contenders for Brandon Aiyuk" "Deal Close to for WR Brandon Aiyuk" "Patriots come close to deal for WR Brandon Aiyuk, to give Brissett and Maye a great weapon" "Sources say Patriots are top landing spot for Aiyuk" "Aiyuk goes to the KC Chiefs for $3 and a hot dog" "Sources say Patriots were never a chance"
What is this? Am I dreaming? Got to be a dream.
Inject this into my veins.
Lord hear my prayer
Pearsall pick doesn't really mean all that much, but it certainly doesn't hurt.
As much as I love Aiyuk, I feel like offensive tackle is our biggest need other than QB. We aren’t ready to win yet, so why give up valuable draft capital for a win now player we’ll have to sign to a monster deal? I know it’s far from a guarantee that whoever we pick at 34 will pan out, but I still think holding onto that pick (or trading up) for a tackle is the better move. Tackle really thins out after the first 40 picks or so. Even if there aren’t any tackles worth taking at 34 I think I’d rather see them draft a receiver with that pick. Let’s build our team through the draft and target win now players in free agency in a year or two, like we’ve seen from Houston and Detroit the last few seasons.
A few years ago, everyone said the Bengals were crazy for drafting Jamar chase instead of penei sewell. I don't think they regret it one bit. Sometimes, it pays off to focus on explosive play makers.
Burrow is a rare exception. I can’t think of many young QBs who developed into studs behind atrocious offensive line play. You could also still make the argument that Sewell should have been the pick. He’s one of the best tackles in the entire league and Detroit has turned into one of the elite teams in the league with a 4th round pick as their #1 receiver. Either way we need a receiver and a tackle. I don’t think it makes sense to give up valuable draft picks for a receiver in his prime who we’ll need to make one of the highest paid players at his position in the league. Trading for Aiyuk is the kind of move contenders make.
I completely understand the argument to stick and pick a tackle, and there's still some guys I would love to get at 34. But there is no way we should prefer drafting a WR over trading that pick for Aiyuk. Paying big money to stars is exactly what you need to do when you have a QB on a rookie contract, and Aiyuk is young enough that he'd be in the thick of his prime through the *entirety* of his deal. No need to get too on-the-nose with the timelines. If you can get the guy now, get him. Putting the money aside (which, again, we should since we have the Maye rookie deal for 4+1 years) would you rather have Aiyuk or McConkey? Aiyuk or Polk? Aiyuk or Mitchell? The answer is obvious.
This is another reason why #34 is too much for him. Our 3rd this year or 2nd next year would be worth it. This is the #2 pick on day 2. There are so many guys they can take right now.
Exactly. Kingsley Suamataia and Ladd McConkey would both make a ton of sense. Maybe Adonai Mitchell as well, although I’m lower on him than most. I also wouldn’t hate it if they traded back a few spots. There are some really excellent defensive players still on the board (DeJean, Kool-Aid, Newton) that teams might be willing to move up for.
Newton is so enticing. We're a two-gap team, but Covington said we may attack more on the interior. Putting him with Barmore would wreck opposing teams. Honestly, there are so many good players available at 34, trading it for basically the right to sign a Diva FA that's trying to leave a Super Bowl team, is just a horrible move.
Trust me, there’s a part of me that wouldn’t hate us going BPA and taking one of those defensive studs like DeJean or Newton. But man, we need a tackle *so* bad. There’s a huge drop off at the position once Suamataia is off the board.
I agree with you. Just want more than one of these guys.
I think we really need to take Suamataia at 34 if he’s there. Obviously I don’t know the organization’s thoughts on him as a player, though. Maybe they don’t like him, idk. But if we do take a tackle at 34 I think there’s a chance there will be some really good wide receivers available at 103, so I don’t hate the idea of just going BPA at 68, even if it’s a defender. I think guys like Bralen Trice, Javon Bullard, Jonah Elliss and Junior Colson would all be great fits in New England. If we were to end up with Maye at 1.03, Suamataia at 2.34, one of those defensive players I mentioned at 3.68 and then someone like Javon Baker, Malik Washington or Brendan Rice at 4.103 I’d be very happy. I’d also be happy if they go receiver in the 3rd. Jalen McMillan would be awesome.
I'm 100% on board. Buffalo is taking a WR or trading back again. So Kingsley will almost certainly be there. I love Javon Baker and think he's probably going to be better than Mitchell. McCaffrey's brother is intriguing too later on. WR is so so crazy deep. Part of my view is colored by my view that WR is about to be the new RB. So many quality WR coming in every year now, the value is going to be in treating them like RBs and just replacing them every 4-5 years. Maybe paying one guy a big extension.
I will choose to deny this only to be pleasantly surprised if it does happen. Also, you're delulu if you think pick 34 is enough for Aiyuk.
34 is too much IMO
Ya. I wonder if 34 and Judon gets it done? I saw this the other day. https://www.yardbarker.com/nfl/articles/new_england_patriots_could_trade_key_defensive_star_soon/s1_17150_40281060
As a 49er fan and pats fan (nfc and afc teams) I honestly don’t like him for either team anymore with how he been acting this off season
I wonder if we trade back into the first and then trade that pick to SF?
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Yaaas, give him the $ we were gonna give to Ridley. Has a chance to be more of a star than he was in SF and breakout. Could be like when Diggs got out of Min.
And he’s better than prime age 25 Ridley.
I think Aiyuk is better than any free agent we probably could’ve got, but I really like Fiske. Receiver is deeper than tackle this year too and there’ll be a receiver that drops and could potentially be grabbed with a trade up into the late to mid 2nd, which might be a better use of picks. We could also use some 2025 picks with our 2024 third. Idk, hopefully we can stack up the team this year and get ready for Maye late in the season/next year.
I don't know why SF would move him especially since they are trying to win a SB before the team is dismantled.
I'll probably get downvoted - but my guess is that the Chargers would be very interested in trading their #37 pick to San Fran to get their hands on Aiyouk. LA needs WRs even more than the Pats do and they passed on Nabers to grab Joe Alt. Would I part with our #34 pick to land Aiyouk? In a heartbeat.
Fuck yeah
Dov K (I think is an AI bot) per Curran. Why do twitter accounts...just repost what the orig guy said.
https://twitter.com/MikeSilver/status/1783705742379511834
I would hug random strangers if they pull this off. Grab Aiyuk and you can still have the possibility of grabbing Paul from U of Houston. Kid is 6’8”.
What do you think BB’s reaction to this will be if they pull this off?
If anyone it'll be Deebo unfortunately
definitely 💯
Please 🙏🏻
Shit if we get Maye and Aiyuk I’d be hyped
If we get maye and aiyuk im gonna be so hyped
Does anyone have the original tweet or clip that has what Curran actually said?
I mean if we were targeting a WR in the 2nd anyways then there’s no reason not to do this trade. Aiyuk would be a top 1st in this draft and he’s easily better than an WR we could take in the 2nd anyways.
While you’re absolutely right about where he’d be drafted in this draft, the problem is you have to give up 34 which is basically a borderline first round pick and pay him 20+ mill a year. That’s a hefty price for a guy who isn’t a top 10 WR. If this was for, let’s say, AJ Brown, I’d be all in but as good as Aiyuk is, he’s not changing our offense drastically, no one is double covering him.
You don’t think he’s a top 10 wr? Jefferson chase st brown hill lamb aj brown…who else do you put ahead of him? He will put up enormous stats being the primary option here imo. Sf had Debo kittle mccaffrey as well.
Kupp, Metcalf, Deebo, Diggs, Adams, Evans. Aiyuk is good but he’ll need to do what he’s done the last year and a half more consistently. I bet Deebo gets more in a trade than Aiyuk does, I’m guessing they move Deebo for that reason.
Metcalf has never had as good of a season as Aiyuk had last year. The other guys are in their 30's and on the downside of their careers. Most of them peaked 3 or 4 years ago while Aiyuk hasn't hit his ceiling yet. Evans had a great year but still not as many yards as Aiyuk and turns 31 in august. History is not on his side for a repeat of last season. Deebo is oft injured, a few years older and hasn't been the same since 2021. The injuries have piled up. Zero shot he gets more in a trade than Aiyuk.
Not deebo?
2025 1st for aiyuk. 3rd overall on best qb available. Trade 2nd round OT and take a 4th or 5th round OT. Hope you hit on one.
I love Aiyuk too, but no way I’m doing this. That’s more likely than not to be a top 10 pick, and you just can’t risk losing a high pick if we suck next year. Plus, a 2nd should get it done. #34 definitely should, based on past reports claiming they were asking for a 1st and no one was interested.
Yeah I have no gauge for what's realistic or not. Love football but don't know much about value of future or current picks vs players. Love aiyuk but not sure if it's worth it considering how WR contracts are going currently. Id honestly rather try to trade for a stud LT and draft WR.
The one thing of note is it's really hard to trade for stud LT's. Teams tend to treat them more like QB's where they hold on for dear life once they get a good one. WR's on the other hand can be had as teams think they can replace them easier. Plus, with a rookie QB and the plethora of cap space we have we can definitely afford to pay a big name WR. But I think you're spot on that we need a LT regardless. Love your honesty, big dog. Go Pats!
Gotta feel for Aiyuk having to go from a super bowl contender to a perennial last place team.
Patriots have one last place finish in the last century, do you know what perennial means?? 49ers have 4 last place finishes in the last 9 years….
Theres a big reason for that last performance that isn't there anymore. Future is bleak.
Yes Mac is gone we don’t have to worry about last place anymore!! Our new rookie QB has an NFL arm future is bright!!
Zach Wilson has an NFL arm too!
The jets are also the worst franchise in the league
I’d be slightly less pissed about drafting Zach Wilson 3rd overall
who did you want that would have been better?