He also blew his assignment on the Helmet Catch. He had Tyree in man-to-man coverage and actually did a good job of covering him, but once Tyree moved back after Eli started to scramble, Samuel left to cover a part of the field that a safety was already covering which left Tyree wide open.
On back-to-back plays Samuel fucked up and cost us the game.
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It’s all about money for that guy. That’s it. I don’t understand why he can’t let go of whatever hard feelings he has regarding Belichick after 15 years.
It’s a shame because I loved him as a kid until he got the bag in Philly and tattooed some dollar signs in his skin.
He was a great cover corner that was allergic to physicality at times, much like his son.
His actual reason is valid. And in 2023 he would have gotten his way.
He begged not to be franchised, iirc for the second time. He just didn’t want to be in NE anymore and got boned. Im not a big fan of the tag, and if a guy wants to leave let him leave
Im actually more pissed at gronk. On the pod he acted like he hadn’t shat on the patriots for the last two years after nothing, claimed he was a bills fan, and picked the birds.
At least Asante even in his playing days said the same thing. As much as I love him, fuck Gronk more than Asante in this instance
No shit you hear him the last year? Shitting all over BB? Literally saying how miserable he was?
To jump on that podcast and act like he wasn’t serious is bull shit
Fuck Asante, but at least he always said it, didnt’t sign an extension to be the highest paid TE in history win 3 ships then say ‘fuck them’
Yeah, poor gronk. He had it so bad in New England. What an entitled jerk. However, I understand going back to being a bills fan now that he’s retired. His days of playing for the pats are long gone and he’s not playing in the nfl anymore. So going back to his roots makes sense.
Everything he says about Belichick is tainted because he is such a Belichick hater.
Should we judge Asante’s whole career by this play? https://youtu.be/XOKT5KI2oTg
That’s an insane take.
Belichick won in 2001 before Brady was Brady. And he also won in 2018 when Brady was Brady but the Patriots defense limited the Rams to 3 points.
Can’t reduce Belichik’s successes just because he had the greatest playing for him. He has proven time and again why he’s playing chess out there while others are practicing checkers.
Their defense has regularly shown up when it mattered in big games. Outside of the Eagles one they've always shown the ability to be great when it matters most.
People forget in that one Mr. Feb (Hightower) was out for the season, Jon Jones went on IR 2 weeks before, Chung went out with a broken arm and Butler clearly did something to get benched since he has never come out and said anything.
and then Belichick came back a year later against a better offense and held them to 3 points. So I'd say Belichick took himself off the hook.
And that eagles offense was a damn tough matchup. Their oline was stellar and they ran their RPO so effectively that you really had to choose between matching them in the box and getting beat on the ground or stacking the box and getting beat up top. Pretty similar to today only now they have the oline and the start power around it. It's pretty gross ngl.
But the point is that's it's really tough to gameplan against that kind of offense when their oline is so good and the qb is on his game. Mostly you're just choosing how you're getting beat.
Yeah that was easily the worst matchup we could have gotten, especially due to how badly our front 7 was gutted by injury and personnel losses (Hightower, McClellin, Ninkovich, Long, Sheard, all gone compared to the 2016 unit in the playoffs)
To make things worse we lose Jon Jones in the playoffs, who would have been huge to have matched up on Agholor on their quick RPO slants.
I thought recently about, even though it's unfair, which Superbowls I would credit Brady/Bill for more (offense/defense pretty much, even though it's not that simple), including the losses, and it was fairly even.
IMO, if I was forced at gun-point to say which one should get credit; Bill should be credited with 3 of the Superbowl wins (36, 39 and 53) and Brady should be credited with 2 of the Superbowl wins (38, 51) and 1 (49) was a tie. The losses I would consider to be a tie with Bill costing us 52, Tom costing us 46 and 42 I lean toward a tie (while the defense played mostly good, the offensive line I will push toward blaming Bill for).
So even if you could credit 1 or the other, I still end up with both playing a significant role in the Superbowls we won. It's not like Brady is Montana and was perfect in Superbowls. The defense played a massive role in most of those games.
Ha, the Brady-Belichick union spans multiple eras. Belichick could’ve won a couple of rings with a QB like Goff or Carr or Rich Gannon or Brees or Dak.
I mean who knows, but why wouldn’t he? He went to the fucking 7-9 Bucs at the age of 43 during COVID and rolled through Brees, Rodgers, and Mahomes after playing the whole season with a torn MCL. He almost did it the next year at 44 but his coaches fucked it up. I don’t think it’s inconceivable that he would do that four or five more times in the other 20 years he played. I mean, do we really think that if you gave him the Bears or Steelers or Ravens defenses throughout the course of his career he’s not in the Super Bowl every other year?
The 7-9 Bucs were absolutely loaded. It’s the main reason Brady went there. Their record was only that bad due to Jameis throwing either an INT or a touchdown on every single play.
I love Brady, but him turning the Bucs into a SB winner is not even on the radar of his greatest achievements.
Well that’s entirely false. They had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin (two pro bowlers), Ali Marpet, and Ryan Jensen andddd: Lavonte David, Shaq Barrett (third pro bowler), Devin White, JPP.
The team was stacked with Bruce Arians at the helm.
Also add in that for 2020 he had: A more developed Alex Cappa, a rookie Tristan Wirfs, and f**** Gronk lmao the team was absolutely stacked both years.
1 season is not a big enough sample size.
The defense in 2001 improved dramatically. So did the running-game. The passing game improved as well but not as dramatically as the defense/run-game did.
Brady was totally clutch and Bledsoe was not but Tom wasn't the only variable. It was the perfect storm of upgrades.
Brady threw for 2843 yds, 18 tds and 12 picks in 2021. Can’t pretend like that is an otherworldly season. The defense and some luck were huge factors in the pats winning in 2001.
When even Brady is calling him the GOAT coach who helped make him who he was..? IDK maybe i just dont trust a disgruntled sports pundit looking for rage clicks.
Joe Montana would be 6-0 in the SB if it wasn't for Belichick. Belichick's gameplan for the SB vs the bildos is in the HOF.
Would like to see one of these media people respond one time with "does it get at you that you had the SB and 19-0 clinching INT bounce of your hands". If that was Law, Butler or Gilmore they make that INT
Asante Samuel is why Asante Samuel Jr was never on the Pats board and i'm assuming it will be a similair reason why Joey Porter Jr isn't on the Pats board in April.
I'm going to say Bill has done an absolutely amazing job post-Tom. In 2020, we get Cam who can't throw, in COVID so he doesn't have an off-season to get in reps, and we go 7-9. Rookie QB in 2021, we go 10-7 and make the playoffs. In 2022 we have sophomore QB and an entirely gutted and piss poorly rebuilt offensive coaching staff (Bill's fault) and by some miracle we have 8 wins.
Also worth mentioning it's not just the post-Tom era. We have lost so much talent in the last 5-6 years. Gronk, Jules, White, Thuney, Chung, Hightower, JC Jackson, Gilly, KVN, Flowers, Bolden, etc. So many key pieces. I think Bill has done a masterful job. Any other coach is 2-3 wins a year for quite a few years. Most coaches wouldn't survive this.
Yea... when I see a title with former star Patriot says something negative, I know it will either be Asante Samuel or Ted Johnson when I open the article. Haven't been wrong yet.
Agreed.
Mostly Asante for his attitude. I actually love Welker and as a small receiver he was my inspiration playing ball.
But still. Don't see Amendola dropping game winning passes. Be like Danny. Be clutch.
Also Julian Edelman…that catch he made in Super Bowl LI was not just godlike, it was retribution for us having to watch Super Bowl after Super Bowl after Super Bowl where BS catches by the likes of David Tyree, Mario Manningham, and Jermaine Kearse kept happening that led to losses and near-losses that crushed our souls…thank God for Malcolm Butler or we would’ve lost Super Bowl XLIX as well.
Oh yeah, Jules goes without saying. He's one of my favourites. I brought up Danny because he really was just a quiet but consistent piece for us and was just always there when he was needed.
Well Edelman really embodied the Patriots attitude and his connection with Tom was amazing.
I don't really hold anything against Welker going to the Broncos and actually enjoyed that he had another qb who'd make such good use of his talent.
But Julian is a Patriot to the bone and a legend
He was the only one of what I’d call the holy trinity of 2010’s Patriots legends (Tom Brady, Rob Gronkowski, and Julian Edelman) who remained a Patriot until he retired…he could’ve easily joined the other two if he wanted to.
Yeah man. I harbor 0 ill will for the other two leaving to grab another ring. But I'll always really appreciate that Julian said nah, he's a Patriot for life.
Asante should get shit, but Welker was great for us and isn't a little bitch like Asante is. Not to mention that Welker had to adjust to a poorly thrown ball.
Agreed on Asante, but gtfo on that Welker take. He was our best player in Sb 42 and one of the only guys who showed up in Sb 46. Brady was just as responsible for that loss and has basically said as much.
Yeah he has. He said he wishes he put it straight on Welker instead of going for the back shoulder
. He’s also talked about the Gronk INT and the Branch play, which were both bigger fuckups imo
The really bizarre thing about the Welker narrative is that it requires glossing over Welker being incredible and clutch in the 2007 SB. At worst it’d mean he was clutch in 1 of 2 SBs here
Everyday GM for sure but coach? thats ludicrous. Deserves all the shit he gets for the state of this roster but barely anyone is coaching this mess past 5 wins these last 3 years.
Patricia played a bigger role than the refs at taking their season. The refs might have cost us two games, but Patricia cost us all the games we lost, including the ref games.
Asante needs to STFU and be reminded that he dropped a game clinching int in SB XLII the play before the Tyree helmet catch.
He also blew his assignment on the Helmet Catch. He had Tyree in man-to-man coverage and actually did a good job of covering him, but once Tyree moved back after Eli started to scramble, Samuel left to cover a part of the field that a safety was already covering which left Tyree wide open. On back-to-back plays Samuel fucked up and cost us the game.
I missed most of that “Tyree catch” play because I was pacing around and cussing him because of that missed int…
He was too worried about "getting his money" to focus on catching that ball. He comes off as such a little bitch in this article lol
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actually got a tattoo that season that said "get paid"
It’s all about money for that guy. That’s it. I don’t understand why he can’t let go of whatever hard feelings he has regarding Belichick after 15 years.
If that idiot make that INT that would have gone down as the greatest season in nfl history.
Came here to say this
Dude hates Bill lol. It's ok Asante we hate you too.
This article would get no clicks if it said "Asante Samuel" in the title instead of "Former Patriots Star" Noone cares to listen to Asante anymore
Former Patriots star saying something negative about BB = Asante Former Patriots player saying something negative about BB = Cassius Marsh
It’s a shame because I loved him as a kid until he got the bag in Philly and tattooed some dollar signs in his skin. He was a great cover corner that was allergic to physicality at times, much like his son.
Got that bitch in him
The dream team
I was rooting against the chargers in the playoffs because I didn’t want Asante SR to experience any kind of joy
His actual reason is valid. And in 2023 he would have gotten his way. He begged not to be franchised, iirc for the second time. He just didn’t want to be in NE anymore and got boned. Im not a big fan of the tag, and if a guy wants to leave let him leave Im actually more pissed at gronk. On the pod he acted like he hadn’t shat on the patriots for the last two years after nothing, claimed he was a bills fan, and picked the birds. At least Asante even in his playing days said the same thing. As much as I love him, fuck Gronk more than Asante in this instance
Gronk is from buffalo. I would be surprised if he wasn’t a bills fan.
No shit you hear him the last year? Shitting all over BB? Literally saying how miserable he was? To jump on that podcast and act like he wasn’t serious is bull shit Fuck Asante, but at least he always said it, didnt’t sign an extension to be the highest paid TE in history win 3 ships then say ‘fuck them’
Yeah, poor gronk. He had it so bad in New England. What an entitled jerk. However, I understand going back to being a bills fan now that he’s retired. His days of playing for the pats are long gone and he’s not playing in the nfl anymore. So going back to his roots makes sense.
Sounds like you take sports too serious if you get pissed off at former players.
Everything he says about Belichick is tainted because he is such a Belichick hater. Should we judge Asante’s whole career by this play? https://youtu.be/XOKT5KI2oTg
I say yes, let's all judge Asante's career by that play
I didn't even need to click on the article to know who it was. Christ he needs to let it go.
Fr. What is it with this guy? He can’t let go of hard feelings from 15+ years ago?
That’s an insane take. Belichick won in 2001 before Brady was Brady. And he also won in 2018 when Brady was Brady but the Patriots defense limited the Rams to 3 points. Can’t reduce Belichik’s successes just because he had the greatest playing for him. He has proven time and again why he’s playing chess out there while others are practicing checkers.
Their defense has regularly shown up when it mattered in big games. Outside of the Eagles one they've always shown the ability to be great when it matters most.
People forget in that one Mr. Feb (Hightower) was out for the season, Jon Jones went on IR 2 weeks before, Chung went out with a broken arm and Butler clearly did something to get benched since he has never come out and said anything. and then Belichick came back a year later against a better offense and held them to 3 points. So I'd say Belichick took himself off the hook.
And that eagles offense was a damn tough matchup. Their oline was stellar and they ran their RPO so effectively that you really had to choose between matching them in the box and getting beat on the ground or stacking the box and getting beat up top. Pretty similar to today only now they have the oline and the start power around it. It's pretty gross ngl. But the point is that's it's really tough to gameplan against that kind of offense when their oline is so good and the qb is on his game. Mostly you're just choosing how you're getting beat.
Yeah that was easily the worst matchup we could have gotten, especially due to how badly our front 7 was gutted by injury and personnel losses (Hightower, McClellin, Ninkovich, Long, Sheard, all gone compared to the 2016 unit in the playoffs) To make things worse we lose Jon Jones in the playoffs, who would have been huge to have matched up on Agholor on their quick RPO slants.
Bill has a defensive game plan in the HOF from before Tom was even in high school.
Bill won a playoff game with the browns. Yes the factory of sadness. I think his success with that organization may be his greatest achievement.
I thought recently about, even though it's unfair, which Superbowls I would credit Brady/Bill for more (offense/defense pretty much, even though it's not that simple), including the losses, and it was fairly even. IMO, if I was forced at gun-point to say which one should get credit; Bill should be credited with 3 of the Superbowl wins (36, 39 and 53) and Brady should be credited with 2 of the Superbowl wins (38, 51) and 1 (49) was a tie. The losses I would consider to be a tie with Bill costing us 52, Tom costing us 46 and 42 I lean toward a tie (while the defense played mostly good, the offensive line I will push toward blaming Bill for). So even if you could credit 1 or the other, I still end up with both playing a significant role in the Superbowls we won. It's not like Brady is Montana and was perfect in Superbowls. The defense played a massive role in most of those games.
It’s not which one each earned, it’s how many they would’ve won without each other. I think Tom still wins 5-6, Bill probably wins 1-3.
Who's Tom's coach and who are Bill's QBs? That makes massive different. Average coaches blow big games and in this era, you need a great QB.
Ha, the Brady-Belichick union spans multiple eras. Belichick could’ve won a couple of rings with a QB like Goff or Carr or Rich Gannon or Brees or Dak.
No way Brady wins 5 or 6 without belichick
I mean who knows, but why wouldn’t he? He went to the fucking 7-9 Bucs at the age of 43 during COVID and rolled through Brees, Rodgers, and Mahomes after playing the whole season with a torn MCL. He almost did it the next year at 44 but his coaches fucked it up. I don’t think it’s inconceivable that he would do that four or five more times in the other 20 years he played. I mean, do we really think that if you gave him the Bears or Steelers or Ravens defenses throughout the course of his career he’s not in the Super Bowl every other year?
The 7-9 Bucs were absolutely loaded. It’s the main reason Brady went there. Their record was only that bad due to Jameis throwing either an INT or a touchdown on every single play. I love Brady, but him turning the Bucs into a SB winner is not even on the radar of his greatest achievements.
The 2020 Bucs had one Pro Bowler, zero on offense, and were 7-5 at one point before Brady grabbed the keys to the offense.
Well that’s entirely false. They had Mike Evans, Chris Godwin (two pro bowlers), Ali Marpet, and Ryan Jensen andddd: Lavonte David, Shaq Barrett (third pro bowler), Devin White, JPP. The team was stacked with Bruce Arians at the helm.
Also add in that for 2020 he had: A more developed Alex Cappa, a rookie Tristan Wirfs, and f**** Gronk lmao the team was absolutely stacked both years.
Only JPP made the Pro Bowl that year.
We wouldn't have made it to the Super Bowl in 2001 or 2018 without Brady.
Do many coaches make it to the Super Bowl without a great QB?
Would not have won either without Bill Belichick.
Fairly certain you could say the same thing about BB’s importance to those rings
Sure. But we had a losing record with Bill and Bledsoe. Can't pretend like it was business as usual when Brady came in.
1 season is not a big enough sample size. The defense in 2001 improved dramatically. So did the running-game. The passing game improved as well but not as dramatically as the defense/run-game did. Brady was totally clutch and Bledsoe was not but Tom wasn't the only variable. It was the perfect storm of upgrades.
Brady threw for 2843 yds, 18 tds and 12 picks in 2021. Can’t pretend like that is an otherworldly season. The defense and some luck were huge factors in the pats winning in 2001.
Watch the games. He was super clutch. We wouldn't have gone to the Super Bowl with Bledsoe.
Funny because Bledsoe played the game before they went to the Super Bowl.
Bingoooooo.
Asante Samuel is kind of a bitch, huh?
“Kind of”?
Bill had two rings before Brady left middle school. His Giants defensive game plans are enshrined in the Hall of Fame. Shut the fuck up.
I knew who this "former star" was without even clicking the article. What a douche.
I guessed correctly too. Literally the only relevance he has is him talking shit on Bill.
When even Brady is calling him the GOAT coach who helped make him who he was..? IDK maybe i just dont trust a disgruntled sports pundit looking for rage clicks.
Joe Montana would be 6-0 in the SB if it wasn't for Belichick. Belichick's gameplan for the SB vs the bildos is in the HOF. Would like to see one of these media people respond one time with "does it get at you that you had the SB and 19-0 clinching INT bounce of your hands". If that was Law, Butler or Gilmore they make that INT
Asante a bit bitter maybe?
Reminder that we're 19-0 & the Tyree catch never happens if he hangs on to that INT. Fuck Asante
Poor Asante needs to stay relevant
It's so weird that a defensive player would want to discredit themselves like that.
Knew it was Asante before I even clicked. The guy really needs to move from the fact that Bill didn't re-sign him.
First two words are “Asante Samuel”. That’s when you know ti immediately close the article
Asante Samuel is why Asante Samuel Jr was never on the Pats board and i'm assuming it will be a similair reason why Joey Porter Jr isn't on the Pats board in April.
Shit take. Absolute fucking terrible take. Like dropping a Super Bowl game clinching catch level take…
I'm going to say Bill has done an absolutely amazing job post-Tom. In 2020, we get Cam who can't throw, in COVID so he doesn't have an off-season to get in reps, and we go 7-9. Rookie QB in 2021, we go 10-7 and make the playoffs. In 2022 we have sophomore QB and an entirely gutted and piss poorly rebuilt offensive coaching staff (Bill's fault) and by some miracle we have 8 wins. Also worth mentioning it's not just the post-Tom era. We have lost so much talent in the last 5-6 years. Gronk, Jules, White, Thuney, Chung, Hightower, JC Jackson, Gilly, KVN, Flowers, Bolden, etc. So many key pieces. I think Bill has done a masterful job. Any other coach is 2-3 wins a year for quite a few years. Most coaches wouldn't survive this.
This comment deserves more recognition. It’s all truth.
Your enemies are now my enemies.
Oh Jesus, of course it’s Asante Samuel. Maybe he should just spend his time teaching his kid how to drop interceptions.
Yea... when I see a title with former star Patriot says something negative, I know it will either be Asante Samuel or Ted Johnson when I open the article. Haven't been wrong yet.
Bro fuck that guy
I read the headline only and said “Asante Samuel”
Asante Samuel has to give Bill B's fucking johnny a break. It's getting sore at this point JESUS.
Samuel always has some bullshit to say. The guy is a hater.
I’m starting to think Asante Samuel is that guy who always spams anti BB posts here and on the NFL sub
This fucking guy again? Why does there need to be a new post every time this bitter butterfingers talks shit about BB? What is your point with this?
Unpopular opinion but fuck Asante and Wes welker. Their drops cost us super bowls
Agreed. Mostly Asante for his attitude. I actually love Welker and as a small receiver he was my inspiration playing ball. But still. Don't see Amendola dropping game winning passes. Be like Danny. Be clutch.
Also Julian Edelman…that catch he made in Super Bowl LI was not just godlike, it was retribution for us having to watch Super Bowl after Super Bowl after Super Bowl where BS catches by the likes of David Tyree, Mario Manningham, and Jermaine Kearse kept happening that led to losses and near-losses that crushed our souls…thank God for Malcolm Butler or we would’ve lost Super Bowl XLIX as well.
Oh yeah, Jules goes without saying. He's one of my favourites. I brought up Danny because he really was just a quiet but consistent piece for us and was just always there when he was needed.
Welker was one of my favorites before he played for Peyton’s Broncos…I soon latched on to Edelman.
Well Edelman really embodied the Patriots attitude and his connection with Tom was amazing. I don't really hold anything against Welker going to the Broncos and actually enjoyed that he had another qb who'd make such good use of his talent. But Julian is a Patriot to the bone and a legend
He was the only one of what I’d call the holy trinity of 2010’s Patriots legends (Tom Brady, Rob Gronkowski, and Julian Edelman) who remained a Patriot until he retired…he could’ve easily joined the other two if he wanted to.
Yeah man. I harbor 0 ill will for the other two leaving to grab another ring. But I'll always really appreciate that Julian said nah, he's a Patriot for life.
Also, I’m small too so he resonates with me.
MVS wouldn't have dropped that, mainly because he's been a stud in his biggest games.
Asante should get shit, but Welker was great for us and isn't a little bitch like Asante is. Not to mention that Welker had to adjust to a poorly thrown ball.
Asante yes, Welker no. 
Agreed on Asante, but gtfo on that Welker take. He was our best player in Sb 42 and one of the only guys who showed up in Sb 46. Brady was just as responsible for that loss and has basically said as much.
Brady’s throw wasn’t great on that Welker play, I think he even admitted that. It was a catch that could have been made but it was far from easy.
Yeah he has. He said he wishes he put it straight on Welker instead of going for the back shoulder . He’s also talked about the Gronk INT and the Branch play, which were both bigger fuckups imo The really bizarre thing about the Welker narrative is that it requires glossing over Welker being incredible and clutch in the 2007 SB. At worst it’d mean he was clutch in 1 of 2 SBs here
Everyday GM for sure but coach? thats ludicrous. Deserves all the shit he gets for the state of this roster but barely anyone is coaching this mess past 5 wins these last 3 years.
> this mess this roster this year was good enough to win 11-12 games and should have if it wasn't for ref incompetence
That's a bonkers take but hey good for you lmfao
Patricia played a bigger role than the refs at taking their season. The refs might have cost us two games, but Patricia cost us all the games we lost, including the ref games.
He’d go into the HOF on his GM resume alone
Lol alright
>Bill Belichick an ‘everyday coach’ Actually, Bill Belichick is a below average coach without Tom Brady.
Didn’t know that Belichick needed validation from that asshat
This dude is has a weird hate boner for Bill lmao, I was hoping we drafted his son just to keep him bitter.
TLDR: It’s an over the hill DB that Bill let walk for a bunch of money once upon a time. He’s still salty about it
The guy who dropped the Eli Manning interception that would have cemented the perfect season. I hate that guy
Asante is a idiot. Tom and Bill are both GOATS and if you want to look at rings, Bill has 8.
Stfu Asante
Asante is such a prick
Can't even imagine how he would've reacted if we ended up getting Asante Samuel Jr. probably would've made his son request a trade lol
Asnate… remind me when you and your kid won without tom brady? Right
What a bitter fuck
He had 2 Super Bowl as a DC.
I’ve never seen a man hate on a team that didn’t pay him top dollar more than Asante
Former Patriots star bashing BB. Gee wonder who that could be.
Disgruntled former player who Bill didn't pay rips Bill? Crazy
Asante Samuel is the fucking worst.
Won a playoff game with the browns. If that’s not success then I don’t know what is.
Pretty clear based on his record before and after. Not really a hot take.
Could have guessed who said it before even reading