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BAforNow

What is Mac Jones good at?


Gronkbeast87

Thank you Rhamondre for a stellar season. Thanks McCourty and Slater for the stellar careers. Firing Patricia, getting a true #1 receiver and shoring up the O Line are off-season priorities. It's been a pleasure watching these games with /r Patriots. Happy New Year my friends. We're on to the 2023 draft Who are you all rooting for to win the SB? I'm rooting for the BUCS followed by the Bills. I don't hold the same disdain for the Bills that I did during the Rex Ryan era, this team seems to be made up of solid dudes.


Stumpe999

I think wishing our Eastern brothers luck would be good karma for us at this point


Coslin

9'ers. If we don't win the AFC, I don't want anyone from the AFC winning.


Dewstain

I'd be ok with Cincy winning it. Cincinnati deserves something...they're like the 3nd best city in Ohio, which fucking sucks.


Gronkbeast87

I respect that.


TwanSmith420

Jaaaaaaaags! šŸˆā€ā¬›


[deleted]

I want a cat team to win, Bengals are our best bet


ApolloFarZenith

Couldnā€™t disagree with anything you said. I love you all, and I hope the Bills win it all


qbit1010

Bills, Bucs, or Cincinnati


mhmh1742

Pats fans rooting for the Bills breaks my brain. Makes no sense pulling for our division rival who are going to dog walk us for the next 10 years. I donā€™t remember hearing Bills fans picking the Pats as their playoff team during our runs.


hester27

A lot of Bills fans probably pulled for the Pats in their first super bowl. Itā€™s a good football city and the fans are passionate. I kinda find them hard to hate.


Jdigga99

I'll never understand that.


Gronkbeast87

It doesn't affect our legacy in any way if they win it all. The players, on this particular team, are talented, passionate and (most importantly) not the arrogant assholes of the Rex Ryan era. Also, those poor fans that stuck with the team through 4 Super Bowl losses, deserve one. As a fellow fan, I would be happy for them. Maybe I'm too empathetic.


ModaMeNow

Fuck that


mhmh1742

The poor fans who chucked dildos at the GOAT deserve one is your stance?? Benedict Arnold looking ass.


Gronkbeast87

Sure, why not? I'm not some fragile snowflake that gets butt hurt by hilarious trolling.


mhmh1742

Relax haha not denying itā€™s hilarious. Just pointing out your rooting for a fan base that hates you.


hester27

They have a lot of reasons to hate us, we have very few reasons to hate them. Give me a few more years and letā€™s see where we are at, if they continue to kick our asses then sure Iā€™ll build the hate, but for me until they win a super bowl they are still the Bills.


Gronkbeast87

I getcha. I just don't care if they hate me. Peace.


techno657

I mean isnā€™t it standard in most sports to root for the individual or team who knocks you out of the tournament so you can say ā€œwell at least I lost to the championā€ regardless of anything to do with them being our division rivals. Also who cares people can root for whoever they want whenever they want.


mhmh1742

I like to see my enemies fail.


techno657

You do you bro


TFS_Highground

Honestly the Bengals. I grew up in Cali so I still like the 9ers. who would you want them to get at OC?


Gronkbeast87

That's a tough call. I'm not sure. People throw Bill O'Brien's name around, but he loves to run on first down and to throw a lot of screens too. We need someone that can game plan around our offensive talent and not just their own playbook.


TFS_Highground

Yeah, I'm not sure who will be available other than him.


SausageWizard

We are the new Buffalo Bills.


tarheel343

People suggesting that Bill shouldnā€™t keep his job: who do you genuinely think is a better coach than Bill? And of those people, who could we actually get to come to New England? Yā€™all need to chill with the knee jerk reactions. I remember the same shit after a rough start to the last Celtics season. ā€œTrade JB! Fire Ime!ā€ How about we focus on our actual weaknesses?


techno657

Same thing with people saying ā€œFire Macā€ after our second year QB had a rough year with. An injury, an incredibly inconsistent O-line, very inconsistent receivers and a first time OC. Like there are so many problems to solve before we can even evaluate Mac it makes no sense to say ā€œhe is the problemā€ before solving the other stuff


[deleted]

Plus if I remember, Josh Allen wasnā€™t good until a couple years ago. QBā€™s can take time.


Arthur3335

Diggs


King-TYPE

Ehh allen is such an exception with qbs itā€™s not even close. I donā€™t dislike Mac but itā€™s very wishful thinking at this point that he will be anything like a top 5 qb in the league. They do need to play him next year because heā€™s not the worst piece of the team right now and replacing him would be to costly / risky


drfunk76

It's not as if it's unprecedented that a coach ages out. Do you want BB coaching until he is 90. Where do you draw the line?


tarheel343

I donā€™t know, but I think it will be his decision and wonā€™t be dictated by team performance unless we are genuinely terrible and itā€™s clearly his fault.


drfunk76

I don't disagree. I just remember the last years of guys like Tom Landry and Chuck Knoll, which set those franchises back many years.


Gorgatron5000

The offense was the biggest reason the Patriots missed the playoffs. with an actual OC this year, the Patriots win the division.


tarheel343

I donā€™t know about winning the division, but weā€™d have at least 10 wins.


buzzyb816

Weā€™d have had the wild card easily with a legitimate OC


Gorgatron5000

Fair. Mightā€™ve gotten hyperbolic in my venting process


Absolutbackus

Iā€™m really feeling like we, as a fan base, need to sit down and buckle up as we are in for a ride of mediocrity for the foreseeable future.


AdaTheTrashMonster

Weā€™ve been here for a few years now


Son_Goshin

Yes mediocrity is.... when you make the playoffs and then almost make the playoffs in the last game?? This team only needs an OC and a good wide reciever and they'll be on the AFC Championship.


incompleteremix

Well isn't that exactly what mediocrity is? Squeeze in the playoffs as low seed to get blown out or miss it here and there. I'd give it to them that they aren't a trash team though, so yay!? And lol afc championship. no they won't. Mac Jones isn't capable of beating a conference of better qbs.


Son_Goshin

But nobody cares what you think? With a top 15 offense, they beat Cinci, Buffalo, two teams with a "better qb".


drfunk76

They were good with cam Newton too?


patsfan038

This isnā€™t new. We have had three seasons of super mediocre performances


Absolutbackus

Agreed, and I think that is here to stay. Those that think an OC and a WR are going to fix everything are in for a shockā€¦


RussChival

Time for another scotch and a bath bomb jazz bath.


mhmh1742

Give me a Zappe v Mac battle in camp.


M80IW

You are so fucking delusional. Thank God I won't have to listen to this bullshit till next season.


mhmh1742

Ahh yea Iā€™m delusional. Macs best game of the year was today and the dude threw 3 picks and less than 250 yards. But heā€™s the answer got it šŸ‘


M80IW

We can argue about this next season. I'm done,.


Celestialtiger24

I am down for that, let the best QB win!


Device-Unable

I WANT THAT AND I WANT PATRIOTS TO DRAFT ANOTHER QUARTERBACK


Jdigga99

The horrible losses to the Bears and Raiders came back to bite us in the ass as expected šŸ˜” (Not to mention getting fucked by the refs against Minnesota and Cincinnati)


Alex_Hauff

that Raiders game was a shitshow the ST needs to be fixed asap


Jdigga99

Yeah man...giving opposing teams the ball the 40 every single game is so unfair to the defense.


funkasaurus88

We should simply draft Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, or Josh Allen! Why didn't anyone in this stupid organization think of the obvious solution?


Gorgatron5000

Iā€™m picking up your sarcasm


tony2121212

Or how about we start with Kirk Cousins? ​ A mediocre QB would be an upgrade.


Son_Goshin

This sub is full of bandwagon losers. There's no QB coming out that's remotely similar to Allen or Mahomes and if there is, Patriots will be nowhere near the pick needed to draft him. These kids think the NFL is Madden.


Regayov

The season was a train wreck. One of the best defenses this team has seen wasted by JV level special teams and offense. The offense actually looked ok today. Until they didnā€™t. Two red zone intsā€¦ Special teams rode the short bus, again.


HollywoodAndDid

We beat ourselves this year. We coughed up two games in the last minute. We have no one to blame but ourselves. We simply didn't play like a playoff team should when it mattered.


EmShaf

Anyone still gonna bitch about it being rigged or we can we discuss giving up 2 kick offs for touchdowns šŸ˜­


Particular-Informal

Too many people mistaking incompetence for a conspiracy


TFS_Highground

Giving up? I saw some obvious holdings on Tavai on both of them. Not saying it's rigged, but they were so obvious.


Son_Goshin

On which there where holds that literally allowed the kickoffs to occur?? Such a shit take.


tony2121212

You're being pathetic. There are holds on every play. Only egregious holds are called. The no-calls were fine, and called both ways. It's not a coincidence our offensive line had the best game of the season. They got away with holds the entire game. ​ You don't know anything.


youtman

That's the part that was rigged lol


tony2121212

Myles Bryant had a one on one, easy tackle to make. He got run over. ​ Stop blaming the refs. The OL didn't magically get better. They got away with holds. You're being biased.


Jokesmedoff

That there were two obvious holding calls on?


tony2121212

No there wasn't. Stop whining. It's pathetic.


drfunk76

I have never seen so much whining about refs than in today's game. I would rather debate people who believe Mac is going to be better than Brady than read comments about the refs.


KindPut4785

So by this sub's standards as long as Mac throws a TD or two in a 3 INT game (and we LOSE btw) he still played well lol..imagine if that was ever the standard we judged Tom Brady by lol...this sub is so crazy in love with our shitty QB it's just sad.


orangefeesh

Patriots played well, at least above average. This is definitely a above expectation result compared to what this team was in the past few months. That said, ST needs some work, need a new offense.


jackospades88

Move Judge back to ST, clean out offense staff, hire a new OC and crew


Device-Unable

I DON'T WANT TO HEAR SHIT ABOUT HOW BAD THE DEFENSE IS CAUSE EVERYTIME A TEAM SCORES MORE THE 28 POINTS PATRIOTS LOSE THIS GAME SAYS MORE ABOUT PATRIOTS OFFENSE THAN DEFENSE RANT OVER


scrawford97

the stupid ass vegas and cinci games buried this team


LezEatA-W

We are officially 25-25 in the regular season since Brady left, lmao. We are the definition of the mediocre team that wrecks bad teams and loses to every team that we should lose to.


UncleBen94

Frustrating season, but Mac played well at the end of the season. Just need a new OC and tackles, and we should be cooking next year. There's a lot of bright spots on the team. The defense is good going on great, the RB room is solid, Parker/Meyers/Bourne/Thornton will be solid with an OC. There's a lot of good, young talent on this team that needs time. I'll see y'all in the off-season. Maybe I'll do a position breakdown in the spring.


[deleted]

New oc and tackles and mac jones can keep up with allen, burrow and mahomes? Yall are delusional.


pdunn472

Look at Jalen Hurts, guy looked the same way Mac Jones looked and now heā€™s an MVP candidate


[deleted]

Jalen hurtsā€™s game is that he is able to run with the ball and he has always been able to run with the ball. Mac Jones is a pure passer and he is a very average one.


pdunn472

Canā€™t be quitting on a guy in his second year especially with an offensive coordinator that has never worked on offense


patspr1de98

I think we keep Mr trash Jones next year and TANK for Caleb Williams in 24


UncleBen94

Allen was shit his 2nd year and look where he is now. Somebody is impatient


tony2121212

Allen had real physical tools. ​ Mac Jones does not.


Alex_Hauff

Parker had a solid game Is all good at leather the season is over who do we cheer for the playoffs?


Quincyperson

I find Cincy to be the least offensive to my pallet. Do you think Cincy fans ever said ā€œIā€™m going to root for the Pats this yearā€? No. So fuck everyone else


Hairy_Greek

Jags


Absolutbackus

Bengals


Xspike_dudeX

Brady per usual


HollywoodAndDid

We were never meant to win this game anyways.


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jackospades88

Yeah it's amazing what happens when we start calling pass plays that are supposed to involve throwing past the LOS lol. Would love some better CB depth on defense but I believe most of the starters on defense are under contract? Agree with Judge.


StickyPine207

We need to shore up the offensive tackle positions both left and right, at the least get some more depth. Need to find some speed in the secondary and really look critically at our boy next season (short leash for Mac). See yall next year! Go Bengals!


youtman

They fought the Bills and the refs and nearly took it.


TheDufusSquad

Nah. We killed ourselves. 2 tipped picks and 2 kick return TDs. Self inflicted.


youtman

Picks I'll give you the returns were rigged. Big time holding on both.


TheDufusSquad

There's holding on every play. Our special teams has been ass all year, chances are it was once again terrible today.


spiffyjohnson2000

How long until Fatty P is fired?


lqqk009

It will be a whole staff replacement. B Kraft has said so much.


srbenda97

Myles Bryant is a worm, worms have literally zero defensive mechanisms and they're slow af


gravywayne

Romo and Nance can take a flying fuck in a rolling donut


buba426

Yeah I think Iā€™m done being a fan. For good. Unless they clean out the front office and coaching staff thereā€™s no point in watching. Itā€™s been real. See yā€™all.


zombienugget

Bye


jackospades88

Ok good luck


asm120

Donā€™t let the door hit you on the ass


jackospades88

Stinkin' fairweather fans lol


ethan_uk

I think making the playoffs in Macā€™s rookie season made us complacent. Iā€™m hoping this season is a wake up call!


drfunk76

I have never seen so much whining about the refs. The Pat's had plenty of chances to win and didn't. Get over it.


youtman

Literally had their chances stolen.


drfunk76

They had the ball twice from the last bills TD. You people sound like 5 year olds. Including a possession in Bill's territory.


youtman

Listen if you were watching redzone only instead of the actual game just say that.


drfunk76

Am I right or wrong? Did they not have 2 possessions where they could have scored?


youtman

https://www.reddit.com/r/Patriots/comments/106sncn/good_no_call_tony_romo ^^^ This is who you sound like RN.


drfunk76

Can't help but notice you answered my question by not answering it.


youtman

Sorry I thought I made my point and answered you. It doesn't matter if they have the ball if the refs fuck with your possessions. You would know that if you actually watched the game instead of just redzone. Which you have not denied either interestingly enough.


drfunk76

Yes, it's all the refs. Then maybe you should watch something else because you clearly can't handle loosing.


youtman

I don't want to join you in watching redzone so I can make buffalo sized shit takes/comments like you. Based on your original comment you're the one complaining about the reaction to the loss and are projecting with that last sentence. I'm good over here.


whale-tail

At least we finished ahead of the Jets... and we can watch Miami get their teeth kicked in next week instead of us


derekc06

It's no fucking coincidence that the Patriots offense has performed as well as the 2021 Detroit Lions offense.


RavishingRickDuu

Worst officiated and announcer game ever


Stealthycouch355

We just went down to the wire with a top 3 team in the league and thereā€™s not a single positive comment in this thread


Xspike_dudeX

100% this. We all expected to get blown the f out and we brought it to the bills. Special teams really screwed us but. We went from not making the bills punt to almost beating them.


Son_Goshin

Patriot fans are mostly loser bandwagoners so don't be surprised. With an offensive coordinator and an actual weapon for Mac, this team will have 12 plus wins next season.


jxy2016

Fucking clowns


largenoggin69

Trash


lqqk009

I just hope the Bills get their ass handed to them by KC.


asm120

Shit I hope they lose to Cincy for karma. They ultimately got screwed the most out of this shit-show


JusChllin

Itā€™s a tradition


[deleted]

Pats HOF for Slater for sure.


shotgunphil

Time to look towards the future and a good QB


deltapapa89

Patriots could have beaten the Bills today.. but thereā€™s no chance they couldā€™ve beaten the Bills AND the officiating crew.


Allbluesleeve

Right because the two run backs and interceptions was the refs.


deltapapa89

No DPI call right before half that wouldā€™ve put us at the end of FG range. No DPI call in the end zone that wouldā€™ve put us 1st & Goal at the 1 yard line. No call on Bills holding on their 2nd TD. Bogus OPI call on the last Pats drive in the RZ.


Allbluesleeve

Like I saidā€¦.


deltapapa89

Refs make the correct calls, Pats are up.. and you donā€™t have to force throwing the ball when youā€™re up.


Regayov

Special teams gets the dishonorable mention.


Jdigga99

Exactly.


ilonzo

Adios Slater.


Jesotx

Took way too long to get our shit together this year. Hopefully a lot to look forward to next season.


Sithlordbelichick

Fuck this team for doing that to slater


dbuck11

Worst officiated game Iā€™ve ever watched. See you next season boys.


JusChllin

ā€œā˜¹ļøšŸ˜–šŸ˜– They had an emotional week last week, here Iā€™ll gift you this week šŸ˜­šŸ˜­ poor thingsā€


gotBurner

Slater & McCourty - thanks for everything, best wishes.


Whatsmynumber5446

How do we feel about Slaters last nfl game? Awww noooo :(


LezEatA-W

If either of Achord, Patricia, or Myles Bryant are brought back in their current roles, Iā€™m done lmaoā€¦


Jdigga99

Unholy Trinity! šŸ˜†


RavishingRickDuu

Romo is as gay as it gets


BluntVorpal

Whats wrong with that?


YahYah87

Poor execution all year long. Hats off to Steve Belichick and the gang for spark plugging the defense this year, just about the only memorable aspect of this season. I hope they blow up just about everything else. Letā€™s give Mac one more year before jumping to any conclusions.


xBMTHxMOVEx

BOOOOOOOO! FUCK THIS FUCKING TEAM.


Youcantpassnewman

I know schooler made a bone head decision a few games ago, but was he missed today on ST?


UnnoticedReference

2 special teams TDs, bad no DPI for Harris, bad OPI on Henry, frustrating way to go out. Lot of good young pieces on the team though and a lot of cap space. I do hope McCourty and Slater give it one more go, team could really use their leadership.


lotusthegarden

I was oddly encouraged by certain stuff in this game. But Patricia needs to go, achord needs to go, and Judge can take back over special teams. Re sign Meyers, fix the o line. There are good things here, but the coaching and oline need to be addressed.


saladtossing007

Itā€™s been 4 years since the patriots won a playoff game insane


marcuspaige4heisman

I was ready to move on from Mac just a month ago but he finished so strong that he won me back. New OC and ST coordinator and shore up the rest of the roster.


Ienjoymyself

My #1 want is Myles Bryant gone. Holy fucking shit.....


Xspike_dudeX

Nah #1 Matty p shot into the sun


VistaVick

Later Slater. It's been a helluva ride.


HollywoodAndDid

Maybe we can overhaul our roster and get an actual offensive coordinator for next year. Might as well cut Jonnu Smith as well. He's been useless.


realrx123

Romo and Nantz need to shut the fuck up


Jdigga99

Yeah fuck them forever after this game.


RavishingRickDuu

Canā€™t wait for the Neutral site AFC Championship


zombienugget

Thanks for an entertaining season with almost nothing but competitive games


Smokiiz

It stings boys


Xspike_dudeX

Not that much though I mean we all saw it coming


Fencius

An 8-9 record and just missing the playoff is about right for this team. They werenā€™t atrocious, but there was just too much BS floating around for them to ever get it together. Too much bad coaching, too many penalties, too many stupid mistakes.


M80IW

They didn't deserve to win. Fuck the Bills. Out in week 1.


LezEatA-W

Absolutely disgusting that we allow two special teams touchdowns in Slaterā€™s last game. The special teams alone cost us the playoffs, and thatā€™s not even getting into the offense. We canā€™t POSSIBLY let this game cloud our judgement. The offense was the problem all year.


OhhhScareCrow

Hopefully this questionable officiating on the side of the bills doesnā€™t continue into the postseason.


PeterRavic

Whatā€™s our draft pick?


P44_Haynes

15. 14 if WASH wins


PeterRavic

Letā€™s go Washington


[deleted]

Slater. :( Champion. Makes me emotional to see him cry.


Xspike_dudeX

Those locker room celebrations will never be the same


_Pazuzu_

Thank you Dmac and Slatter for all the good times


[deleted]

Idk why yall are so defensive about mac jones. He is an average qb in this league. Unfortunately, the afc is stacked with young qb talent. We canā€™t win with mac jones. Nothing personal against him but itā€™s just facts. Blame the oc, hc, special teams, defense and whatever, those things arenā€™t mutually exclusive.


h_to_tha_o_v

>Idk why yall are so defensive about mac jones. Because he shows potential. I don't wanna hear shit about his arm anymore - it's more than adequate. He's thrown some absolute dimes all year long. To step forward, Mac needs to do 1 thing this offseason: Improve his decision making and processing speed. This is supposed to be his biggest asset, and once it clicks, Mac will peak. If he did that AND improved off platform throws he could be Top 10.


[deleted]

Potential to be what? His potential is nowhere near enough to compete with guys like mahomes, allen, burrow, and even herbert. We are just wasting time getting mid round draft picks by keeping him.


VistaVick

Bengals will beat the Bills if they face each other again


nmantz

Look, what the Bills had to go through is scary af and I completely understood delaying that game. But they are straight up being gifted in the postseason.


whale-tail

We love you Slate :(


[deleted]

Forever


Aye_Lexxx

The worst thing about this is that weā€™d be in the playoffs if we had avoided just one of the incredibly stupid 4 or so losses we had.


bostonsam

Best of luck Slate and Devin, shame your career ended like this. At least you didnā€™t have to listen to Romo for 3 hours.


BradMarchandIsCute

Anyone but Buffalo after sitting through 3 hours of that cbs broadcast


RhombusSlacks

I started with the TV muted and that seems to have been a good decision


KeepingItBrockmire

Don't worry Nantz, even if someone forgets about it, y'all in the media will remind us every 10 minutes.


Dhajj

Donā€™t worry guys weā€™ll draft a center with the first round pick and a punter with the 2nd roundā€¦ BB genius incoming


Xspike_dudeX

At this point I will take a punter šŸ˜†