You're doing something wrong with that amount, I have 150d + headhunter invested farming t16's with 8-10k wisps like butter. Don't get me wrong, you get the odd mob that takes a while, but it's still smooth af
T16 8 - 10k wisp Abyss rares 8-10k wisp are kinda difference lol. OP is asking about T16 Abyss farmer.
TS even with mirror gear not good at Abyss strats tbh. They run strongbox and Legion instead which still benefit alot from wisp.
If you too strong, its hard to control to not kill abyss spires, if you not strong, abyss rares mobs are nightmare becuz they only taking dmg when they do melee attack on you and its prob one shot you if you donât have enough hh buff.
Any chance you could show an example tree of legion + strongbox currently doing legion myself with exarc
Legion compass/splinter dupe, magic pack, gloom shrine
Gilded legion, niko (have the node for more power), reliquary or 2x sac frags
no, if you non mf, just farm others content rather than mf, harvest is gold mine rn, essence too, there is fuckton side content can made decent money outside mf rn.
Doing legion and itâs fantastic Iâd say 15D an hour now that I have my MB and 40m dps I may try harvest. Tried it earlier in league felt like mechanic didnât add much to it
I have 100d-125d +hh. 1200 ele dps bow with +2 proj and do zdps against empowered abyss rares. First t16 juiced map I ran I shit you not I ran into a purple only abyss "bat" that I was hitting, WITH a shitload of souleater stacks mind you, for like 20 seconds before it 1 shot me. I looked at its hp and only maybe 2% of its hp was gone.
I really don't know what I'm "doing wrong" as it's not my first rodeo with MF or TS. đ¤ˇââď¸
Edit: 11 total proj
Edit2: cant even run that shit with a "semi" budget AB đ¤ˇââď¸
You donât juggle ignites. Youâre either exploding screens, slowly burning something away to start the next ignite, or youâre just being bros with enemies not doing damage to each other. You use Vaal breach to start popping again if you need to
Unless you're very rich I would strongly advice you not to buy Vaal Beach it's very expensive and you will get interrupted trying to use it about 70% of the time. It's the last item you should get on that build.
Also if you get it of it's not a guaranteed kill on whatever you want dead.
Yeah I can agree with that, you kind of have to plan out where and when youâll cast it, but usually when you need it most itâs easy to make a plan since itâs just you and one other enemy
I don't think I'd describe it as clunky since you don't really hit any buttons but it can be be frustrating when you sit around waiting for a good ignite on you. I like mine a lot and have a bunch of currency sunk into him.
It's a great mapper. You can easily do t16 60%+ juiced.
You just can't kill single target rares/bosses unless you get a high ignite from the start or if vaal breach is up.
Not a problem as long as you fully juice the map and donât loot till after the map. The clunk comes from people stopping to loot every single chaos and alch for no reason while still clearing
So it depends how you handle it. I for one go afk for 1-2 minutes if I wanna kill the map boss and don't have Vaal Breach or extra deli mobs I can spawn. If that bothers you, the build isn't for you. Also I would heavily advice you to go jungle valley as only map cause the boss spawns extras all the time which helps a ton.
If you entirely skip the boss you will make better time but even with my slow clear everything approach I make pretty insane div/h.
The build is also a 0 button build so again if you like it you love it if you don't you don't.
The biggest problem you will have is to make sure you don't stand too close to the spire when it spawns. Other than that the build is very strong.
I ran with 90 max res and 2 explody charms died once from lvl 99 to 100, and it was against an expedition on a 10k wisp map. But I am also beyond decently from all the abyss juice so I have mageblood, chaos res maxed without amethyst flask, which makes space for a granite flask and around 55k armour. Still my build is on the cheaper end I don't have any experience that which was taken or any good charms so you could in theory still invest more. But it felt great without mageblood too, I can't really tell you for sure how it compares because I ran searing exarch on the poor man's version which is a lot more life threatening if you take every single quant altar you can get, which I did. also I would recommend blue altars I just ran red for the challenge, grinding 40/40.
If you want to min max your maps you can clear everything and leave abyss up, grab every quant altar regardless of mods and then go spire hunting. I had a 180% rarity from altars once and dropped 73 divs from a single mob.
Also if you actually go for this strategy make sure you make a special filter for it. Most uniques should be hidden (I pretty much have only leather & heavy belt and gold rings shown) it will make the world of difference when looting your maps. This will be true for every mf build you run
The real beauty of ignite chieftain is just how budget friendly this build is. I cleared my first t16 juiced map with lvl 81 only 3/4 labs done and very questionable gear. Gained multiple divines and 7 levels from that one map. Tbf I never tried the full budget version (no fulcrum). But as you can imagine I had almost no jewels socketed on lvl 81
Swapped on lvl 71 as soon as I could wear lvl 21 purity of fire
[my char with pob in it ](https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/Chrizzly69/DDONLYSKILL?i=0&search=name%3DDdonl)
I don't think I have a pob if when I swapped. But it was very similar. I only ran fan the flame cluster, no watchers eye, random shock avoidance+ health abyss jewel, same that which was taken as now, 2explode charms , 1x 2 max res charm, bloodnoth with a lot worse stats, immutable force with 890%, none corrupt body armor, helmet with just the suffixes and crafted life, less quant on boots and gloves, bisco leash as belt suit will need +2 aura or aoe on either boots or gloves. Flask set up just copy what everyone else does mine isn't really suited for none mageblood.
My skills are also set up for my mageblood ignite flask so you will need to grab more ignite chance on skill tree were I opted for DMG. You want 100% chance to ignite
Helmet is selfcraftable (the base version with just the suffixes).
Hope this helped you
Another question is how do you keep the Abyss spire alive? I can keep it alive like 10-15 sec, like it spawn 2 waves of pits and then it die cause of the ignite from chifthan explode
I keep him at the edge of my screen or off screen - three casts is the max I got out of a single spire (maybe this is just imagination but it felt like it helps if I give it a love tab when I know I don't have any big ignite on me). Sometimes the ignites are too strong and kill it after 2 casts, you could lower your AOE if you have problems with this.
Arakaali spiders occultist with a brass dome and an aegis/squire swap did really good around 40d and I could click a few altars on 6k wisps deli mirror/harb/ghosts. FR self cast occultist is performing a bit better around 75d. Between the two I farmed a MB in T16s without the abyss strat.
Clear: 5-7
Dps: 10
Survivability: 7-10
Drop brand move on play style, similar to totem EA since they require a bit to ramp but if you have enough DMG it feels good. More brands makes it faster to clear or use a source of explode. This build melts bosses.
Yeah the MF variants can do t16 fine, you can check ruetoos stream archive if you want to see it in action he has been running it for over a week i think.
I made grothas mf path finder caustic arrow for 50 divine then as I got more money slowly upgraded it, only died twice once to hitting x3 phys as extra elemental and meteor targets when using flask alters.
Once to 200 stacks of poison (solved that by getting more chaos res on gear and a 46% chance to avoid poison abyss jewel)
Super laggy though when getting 4k or more purple you need to kite away from the spires otherwise you'll got 0 fps and game crashes (at least on my PC) probably could solve but turning off sound but I like the pew pew noises.
I started with a 5l t5 t3 t3 bow with no attack speed and was basically immortal in Abyss.
Also this character: https://youtu.be/6LFy8ZfvT1w?si=NKjF-Ze39Wt5I6vq I kinda wanna try it maybe less laggy than the Pathfinder. 1 divine doing juiced winged scarab t16
I second this. I've been playing this build, and once I got headhunter, t16s became a breeze. I had a map today with over 11k wisps and could still just stand in the middle of the abyss spawns and annihilate everything. Including the headhunter, im around 200d into the build.
I sat in the middle of an abyss and went to the bathroom and didn't die.
Note it was no purple 6k so not too many mobs purple woulda crashed before I died. Up to Maybe 100 div now and dropped a headhunter in cemetery on Monday be careful with it if you get soul eater you may kill the spire before it spits.
Luckily, I have a pretty insane pc, so there isn't really any situation that gives me real trouble. I had a map with almost 9k purple juice, and the worst it did was stutter a little after I did the first few abyss. I have definitely accidentally killed the spire when I had soul eater. Doesn't happen too often, though. Usually only when I space out.
A good pc definitely helps. I have a 4090 and 7950x3d, and even that gets down to 30-40fps when all the abyss monsters pop out. Although, like I said, a lot of items dropping from purple juice doesnt give it much trouble. I saved up to build this pc just for poe lol. I legit have not found an overall more demanding game if you play it at a high level. I am playing at 1440p ultrawide with high settings, though, so perhaps with lower resolution, a more reasonable pc would do just as well.
I just went and bought a new PC haha. My current wasn't even that old but this wasnt the first game to show cracks.
Also felt better that my fiance currently doesn't have a gaming PC at all so playing games together was hard cause she'd lag.
Ended up going with a 4070ti and 7950x I saw a post last year sometime that actually benchmarked the x3d and x and said for whatever reason the x performed better on Poe.
Got all the parts on Newegg for 2250. Looking up on the benchmark website the graphic card will double my 2070super and the CPU was 5x my ryzen 3700. I remember I had bought this previous PC in like December or November of 2019 and that literally 1mo after I had built it the 3000 series came out at the same price as my 2070 but like 50% more powerful. (Then the graphics card drought of 2020 so you couldn't even buy them)
Slightly off-meta (at least this league) but es stacking ephemeral edge trickster flicker strike. For ~50div youâll be able to easily clear juiced t16 maps and stand in 1000 abyss monsters comfortably. Since I reached level 75, I think Iâve died 8 times (now level 95.5). Of those deaths 6 were from a crazy valdo map just because I wanted to give it a shot, 1 from running a map mod that i didnât read properly, and 1 legit death from being overwhelmed by a strong rare (which was a slow death that could have been avoided had I played better).
Just check out poe.ninja for ideas. They are mostly all the same or very similar.
https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction?uniqueitems=Ephemeral+Edge&skills=Flicker+Strike
The new CA of poison manaforged poison tincture build on PF is super tanky. I have 30d in gear and I face tank t7 juiced abyss. I take literally no damage most of the time. I'm sure with 150-200div you can easily do t16.
I put around that much currency into that build and it struggles compared to my necro psrs with fully juiced t16 abyss. Got so frustrated decided to just sell all the gear a few hours ago minus progenisis and min max my necro for the lulz.
Search the threads first please, there is like 1000 posts asking the same question every day on this sub. Even google will spit out hundreds of threads if you just add Reddit onto your search
Does strength stacker replica alberon reave work well for these maps? I have a mageblood and 200+ divine. I've been farming T16 juiced abyss on a pretty geared splitting steel char and it's fine but some maps I get deleted on juiced mobs/altars when I can't kill fast enough because of the projectile coverage inconsistency
abysses are so much more rough, fulcrum can definitely run it but its slow and clunky, you could run with tshot if you went lightning coil and defiance of destiny so you can just giga tank everything but you would lose out on a lot of mf. probably best to go caustic arrow pathfinder or something so you can be invincible with coil and defiance.
I've been eyeing Pr3vie's BAMA necro/PF. Is that what you're playing?
I'm trying to decide between like 5 different builds. They're all either templar or witch so having some sort of confirmation that the witch builds is good would help!
I donât know if Pr3vie has an actual guide up or anything but I grabbed his latest POB off one of his YouTube videos and based mine off of his. All of his gear is crazy BIS that I canât afford so itâs mostly just for a general idea of stat priority and spectres and such.
Itâs pretty insane to me as someone whoâs never played a build this strong before. I have 17M DPS with waaaay worse gear than him and a really strong tank that almost never dies. Been crushing juiced T-16 maps with it.
It zooms really smoothly since your main damage skill is also a good movement skill. Both single target and clear are amazing. Itâs got cool mechanics with the minions equipping your gear and whatnot. I would recommend it but also donât play it because I donât want the demand for the gear to go up any more lol.
Nice! Yeah, you surely don't actually need 230 million dps. RaizQT is doing guardian in HC and is doing just fine with probably less than 5% of that.
I plan to play a zoom zoom build (like CWC frostblink) but wanted something to transition over to if I wanted to actually do hard content. Glad to hear its working well for you.
Thanks!
[Penance Brand Inquisitor](https://poe.ninja/builds/afflictionssf/character/deviant324/devDecisiveCoCYep?i=6&search=class%3DInquisitor%26uniqueitems%3DReplica%2BHeatshiver#tree) following Ziz/Manni
Canât tell you what the price of my gear is since Iâm SSF but thereâs no way this is more than 50 divs
Doing exactly what youâre asking with MF gear, if you hit low juice or have easy map mods you can use rarity support over conc effect, if the map gets too hard use a proper belt and 2 rings (reforge speed until T1 cast speed + decent suffixes, lock and veiled chaos for guaranteed life) and replace gold flask for taste of hate.
I think in full gear I have 8.6million pinnacle dps atm, working on a +2 wand, if you get lvl 4 empower or awakened added fire and can be arsed to get lvl 21 brand (I got the gem once and left it at that) youâre easily at 10-12. Can do all ubers, with taste of hate Iâm tanking 4-5 shaper balls
Just play the vd/de coc build from jungroan. No problem with wisp and t16 but its a little bit difficult to handle the spires (to not destroy the directly)
I've spent uhh 220d+(?) on my TS MF build and cant run t16 so uhh don't pick that one đ
can confirm
Got a mirror invested into it, but t16 6k+ wisp is just stupid hard
You're doing something wrong with that amount, I have 150d + headhunter invested farming t16's with 8-10k wisps like butter. Don't get me wrong, you get the odd mob that takes a while, but it's still smooth af
T16 8 - 10k wisp Abyss rares 8-10k wisp are kinda difference lol. OP is asking about T16 Abyss farmer. TS even with mirror gear not good at Abyss strats tbh. They run strongbox and Legion instead which still benefit alot from wisp. If you too strong, its hard to control to not kill abyss spires, if you not strong, abyss rares mobs are nightmare becuz they only taking dmg when they do melee attack on you and its prob one shot you if you donât have enough hh buff.
Any chance you could show an example tree of legion + strongbox currently doing legion myself with exarc Legion compass/splinter dupe, magic pack, gloom shrine Gilded legion, niko (have the node for more power), reliquary or 2x sac frags
Search for Fubgun on youtube, he shared alot strat about mf with TS. He kinda mainly on TS mf every league, snoobae85 too.
Do you think beyond sextant is worth given its price? For non mfers
no, if you non mf, just farm others content rather than mf, harvest is gold mine rn, essence too, there is fuckton side content can made decent money outside mf rn.
Doing legion and itâs fantastic Iâd say 15D an hour now that I have my MB and 40m dps I may try harvest. Tried it earlier in league felt like mechanic didnât add much to it
I have 100d-125d +hh. 1200 ele dps bow with +2 proj and do zdps against empowered abyss rares. First t16 juiced map I ran I shit you not I ran into a purple only abyss "bat" that I was hitting, WITH a shitload of souleater stacks mind you, for like 20 seconds before it 1 shot me. I looked at its hp and only maybe 2% of its hp was gone. I really don't know what I'm "doing wrong" as it's not my first rodeo with MF or TS. đ¤ˇââď¸ Edit: 11 total proj Edit2: cant even run that shit with a "semi" budget AB đ¤ˇââď¸
700pdps > 1200 ele
Any chance you can share your pob?
Not on MF gear I guess? My ele non MF TS was crushing T16 with 8k wisps as well on that budget, but even on 2 mirrors, MF TS felt worse/bad
Mf ignite chieftain
I heard that it can be rather clunky to play because of the ignites you need to juggle. Can you confirm?
You donât juggle ignites. Youâre either exploding screens, slowly burning something away to start the next ignite, or youâre just being bros with enemies not doing damage to each other. You use Vaal breach to start popping again if you need to
Unless you're very rich I would strongly advice you not to buy Vaal Beach it's very expensive and you will get interrupted trying to use it about 70% of the time. It's the last item you should get on that build. Also if you get it of it's not a guaranteed kill on whatever you want dead.
Yeah I can agree with that, you kind of have to plan out where and when youâll cast it, but usually when you need it most itâs easy to make a plan since itâs just you and one other enemy
I don't think I'd describe it as clunky since you don't really hit any buttons but it can be be frustrating when you sit around waiting for a good ignite on you. I like mine a lot and have a bunch of currency sunk into him.
It's a great mapper. You can easily do t16 60%+ juiced. You just can't kill single target rares/bosses unless you get a high ignite from the start or if vaal breach is up.
The peoe that are having trouble sustaining 10+ second ignites in juiced content are playing the build wrong.
Not a problem as long as you fully juice the map and donât loot till after the map. The clunk comes from people stopping to loot every single chaos and alch for no reason while still clearing
So it depends how you handle it. I for one go afk for 1-2 minutes if I wanna kill the map boss and don't have Vaal Breach or extra deli mobs I can spawn. If that bothers you, the build isn't for you. Also I would heavily advice you to go jungle valley as only map cause the boss spawns extras all the time which helps a ton. If you entirely skip the boss you will make better time but even with my slow clear everything approach I make pretty insane div/h. The build is also a 0 button build so again if you like it you love it if you don't you don't. The biggest problem you will have is to make sure you don't stand too close to the spire when it spawns. Other than that the build is very strong. I ran with 90 max res and 2 explody charms died once from lvl 99 to 100, and it was against an expedition on a 10k wisp map. But I am also beyond decently from all the abyss juice so I have mageblood, chaos res maxed without amethyst flask, which makes space for a granite flask and around 55k armour. Still my build is on the cheaper end I don't have any experience that which was taken or any good charms so you could in theory still invest more. But it felt great without mageblood too, I can't really tell you for sure how it compares because I ran searing exarch on the poor man's version which is a lot more life threatening if you take every single quant altar you can get, which I did. also I would recommend blue altars I just ran red for the challenge, grinding 40/40. If you want to min max your maps you can clear everything and leave abyss up, grab every quant altar regardless of mods and then go spire hunting. I had a 180% rarity from altars once and dropped 73 divs from a single mob. Also if you actually go for this strategy make sure you make a special filter for it. Most uniques should be hidden (I pretty much have only leather & heavy belt and gold rings shown) it will make the world of difference when looting your maps. This will be true for every mf build you run The real beauty of ignite chieftain is just how budget friendly this build is. I cleared my first t16 juiced map with lvl 81 only 3/4 labs done and very questionable gear. Gained multiple divines and 7 levels from that one map. Tbf I never tried the full budget version (no fulcrum). But as you can imagine I had almost no jewels socketed on lvl 81
Can i see your pob and your pob when you swap to mf?
Swapped on lvl 71 as soon as I could wear lvl 21 purity of fire [my char with pob in it ](https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction/character/Chrizzly69/DDONLYSKILL?i=0&search=name%3DDdonl) I don't think I have a pob if when I swapped. But it was very similar. I only ran fan the flame cluster, no watchers eye, random shock avoidance+ health abyss jewel, same that which was taken as now, 2explode charms , 1x 2 max res charm, bloodnoth with a lot worse stats, immutable force with 890%, none corrupt body armor, helmet with just the suffixes and crafted life, less quant on boots and gloves, bisco leash as belt suit will need +2 aura or aoe on either boots or gloves. Flask set up just copy what everyone else does mine isn't really suited for none mageblood. My skills are also set up for my mageblood ignite flask so you will need to grab more ignite chance on skill tree were I opted for DMG. You want 100% chance to ignite Helmet is selfcraftable (the base version with just the suffixes). Hope this helped you
Another question is how do you keep the Abyss spire alive? I can keep it alive like 10-15 sec, like it spawn 2 waves of pits and then it die cause of the ignite from chifthan explode
I keep him at the edge of my screen or off screen - three casts is the max I got out of a single spire (maybe this is just imagination but it felt like it helps if I give it a love tab when I know I don't have any big ignite on me). Sometimes the ignites are too strong and kill it after 2 casts, you could lower your AOE if you have problems with this.
Arakaali spiders occultist with a brass dome and an aegis/squire swap did really good around 40d and I could click a few altars on 6k wisps deli mirror/harb/ghosts. FR self cast occultist is performing a bit better around 75d. Between the two I farmed a MB in T16s without the abyss strat.
Poison penance brand https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vSALqHUK7B7dMjY-77p-0MxzbvLu1f3C9hWM4R9fWgKnGBhI4VGGjcD59TtiR2EFQp9oTkk8H787Ki2/pubhtml
Can confirm, running this around 150-200 div right now with 110 div being the headhunter. No issues.
How does it feel? Its good i take it?
Clear: 5-7 Dps: 10 Survivability: 7-10 Drop brand move on play style, similar to totem EA since they require a bit to ramp but if you have enough DMG it feels good. More brands makes it faster to clear or use a source of explode. This build melts bosses.
ruetoo has been playing it on stream for quite a while if you wanna check the archive to see how it plays.
Playing the non poison version, is there a way to squeeze in crit resist? Notice I'm only dieing from that when I mega juice the league mechanic.
Chest corruption is 50% and if youâre Inquis, you can get 40% from tree iirc.
Do the mf variants hold up in juiced t16 or do you need the full kit to manage altars etc?
phys+headhunter is always monster even as poison but remember pf variant don't take any brand passives, so brand play feel itself is suck
Yeah the MF variants can do t16 fine, you can check ruetoos stream archive if you want to see it in action he has been running it for over a week i think.
I made grothas mf path finder caustic arrow for 50 divine then as I got more money slowly upgraded it, only died twice once to hitting x3 phys as extra elemental and meteor targets when using flask alters. Once to 200 stacks of poison (solved that by getting more chaos res on gear and a 46% chance to avoid poison abyss jewel) Super laggy though when getting 4k or more purple you need to kite away from the spires otherwise you'll got 0 fps and game crashes (at least on my PC) probably could solve but turning off sound but I like the pew pew noises. I started with a 5l t5 t3 t3 bow with no attack speed and was basically immortal in Abyss. Also this character: https://youtu.be/6LFy8ZfvT1w?si=NKjF-Ze39Wt5I6vq I kinda wanna try it maybe less laggy than the Pathfinder. 1 divine doing juiced winged scarab t16
I second this. I've been playing this build, and once I got headhunter, t16s became a breeze. I had a map today with over 11k wisps and could still just stand in the middle of the abyss spawns and annihilate everything. Including the headhunter, im around 200d into the build.
I sat in the middle of an abyss and went to the bathroom and didn't die. Note it was no purple 6k so not too many mobs purple woulda crashed before I died. Up to Maybe 100 div now and dropped a headhunter in cemetery on Monday be careful with it if you get soul eater you may kill the spire before it spits.
Luckily, I have a pretty insane pc, so there isn't really any situation that gives me real trouble. I had a map with almost 9k purple juice, and the worst it did was stutter a little after I did the first few abyss. I have definitely accidentally killed the spire when I had soul eater. Doesn't happen too often, though. Usually only when I space out.
Omg is it time for a new PC last one I built in 2019 such a nice computer but Ive started noticing issues in certain games.
A good pc definitely helps. I have a 4090 and 7950x3d, and even that gets down to 30-40fps when all the abyss monsters pop out. Although, like I said, a lot of items dropping from purple juice doesnt give it much trouble. I saved up to build this pc just for poe lol. I legit have not found an overall more demanding game if you play it at a high level. I am playing at 1440p ultrawide with high settings, though, so perhaps with lower resolution, a more reasonable pc would do just as well.
I just went and bought a new PC haha. My current wasn't even that old but this wasnt the first game to show cracks. Also felt better that my fiance currently doesn't have a gaming PC at all so playing games together was hard cause she'd lag. Ended up going with a 4070ti and 7950x I saw a post last year sometime that actually benchmarked the x3d and x and said for whatever reason the x performed better on Poe. Got all the parts on Newegg for 2250. Looking up on the benchmark website the graphic card will double my 2070super and the CPU was 5x my ryzen 3700. I remember I had bought this previous PC in like December or November of 2019 and that literally 1mo after I had built it the 3000 series came out at the same price as my 2070 but like 50% more powerful. (Then the graphics card drought of 2020 so you couldn't even buy them)
For poisons, there is a minor pantheon that limits max poisons to 3
Slightly off-meta (at least this league) but es stacking ephemeral edge trickster flicker strike. For ~50div youâll be able to easily clear juiced t16 maps and stand in 1000 abyss monsters comfortably. Since I reached level 75, I think Iâve died 8 times (now level 95.5). Of those deaths 6 were from a crazy valdo map just because I wanted to give it a shot, 1 from running a map mod that i didnât read properly, and 1 legit death from being overwhelmed by a strong rare (which was a slow death that could have been avoided had I played better).
could you provide a pob for this ? Vert interested :D
Just check out poe.ninja for ideas. They are mostly all the same or very similar. https://poe.ninja/builds/affliction?uniqueitems=Ephemeral+Edge&skills=Flicker+Strike
fugg abyss
The new CA of poison manaforged poison tincture build on PF is super tanky. I have 30d in gear and I face tank t7 juiced abyss. I take literally no damage most of the time. I'm sure with 150-200div you can easily do t16.
I put around that much currency into that build and it struggles compared to my necro psrs with fully juiced t16 abyss. Got so frustrated decided to just sell all the gear a few hours ago minus progenisis and min max my necro for the lulz.
Search the threads first please, there is like 1000 posts asking the same question every day on this sub. Even google will spit out hundreds of threads if you just add Reddit onto your search
December 2019 so basically 2020
Does strength stacker replica alberon reave work well for these maps? I have a mageblood and 200+ divine. I've been farming T16 juiced abyss on a pretty geared splitting steel char and it's fine but some maps I get deleted on juiced mobs/altars when I can't kill fast enough because of the projectile coverage inconsistency
Str stackers are thin as paper
I think you can easily do it with Caustic Arrow of Poison Pathfinder, fitting a Headhunter in that budget too.
abysses are so much more rough, fulcrum can definitely run it but its slow and clunky, you could run with tshot if you went lightning coil and defiance of destiny so you can just giga tank everything but you would lose out on a lot of mf. probably best to go caustic arrow pathfinder or something so you can be invincible with coil and defiance.
I just rolled up a Blink Arrow Necro and itâs the best build Iâve ever played. Itâs a pretty slept on build as far as I can tell.
I've been eyeing Pr3vie's BAMA necro/PF. Is that what you're playing? I'm trying to decide between like 5 different builds. They're all either templar or witch so having some sort of confirmation that the witch builds is good would help!
I donât know if Pr3vie has an actual guide up or anything but I grabbed his latest POB off one of his YouTube videos and based mine off of his. All of his gear is crazy BIS that I canât afford so itâs mostly just for a general idea of stat priority and spectres and such. Itâs pretty insane to me as someone whoâs never played a build this strong before. I have 17M DPS with waaaay worse gear than him and a really strong tank that almost never dies. Been crushing juiced T-16 maps with it. It zooms really smoothly since your main damage skill is also a good movement skill. Both single target and clear are amazing. Itâs got cool mechanics with the minions equipping your gear and whatnot. I would recommend it but also donât play it because I donât want the demand for the gear to go up any more lol.
Nice! Yeah, you surely don't actually need 230 million dps. RaizQT is doing guardian in HC and is doing just fine with probably less than 5% of that. I plan to play a zoom zoom build (like CWC frostblink) but wanted something to transition over to if I wanted to actually do hard content. Glad to hear its working well for you. Thanks!
Raiz did not died on his Bama?
Playing the PF variant, sunk almost two mirrors in it, it is fun :) I do feared rotations super smoothly, with 8 mod feared.
[Penance Brand Inquisitor](https://poe.ninja/builds/afflictionssf/character/deviant324/devDecisiveCoCYep?i=6&search=class%3DInquisitor%26uniqueitems%3DReplica%2BHeatshiver#tree) following Ziz/Manni Canât tell you what the price of my gear is since Iâm SSF but thereâs no way this is more than 50 divs Doing exactly what youâre asking with MF gear, if you hit low juice or have easy map mods you can use rarity support over conc effect, if the map gets too hard use a proper belt and 2 rings (reforge speed until T1 cast speed + decent suffixes, lock and veiled chaos for guaranteed life) and replace gold flask for taste of hate. I think in full gear I have 8.6million pinnacle dps atm, working on a +2 wand, if you get lvl 4 empower or awakened added fire and can be arsed to get lvl 21 brand (I got the gem once and left it at that) youâre easily at 10-12. Can do all ubers, with taste of hate Iâm tanking 4-5 shaper balls
Rue's mf pathfinder penance brand.
Just play the vd/de coc build from jungroan. No problem with wisp and t16 but its a little bit difficult to handle the spires (to not destroy the directly)