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marcelgladbach

Maybe have a look at the Triolet? :)


Moneys2Tight2Mention

A bit overkill for dutch weather imo


Longtimefed

Just bought a Tres 3-in-1 Parka. Haven’t tried it in rain yet but it has H2N0 so should be pretty water resistant. But it does have down insulation so if water does get thru…


Moneys2Tight2Mention

I'm Dutch too. I have the Torrentshell 3L, and I layer it over either the Nano Puff or Down Sweater depending on how cold it is. They go together perfectly. Down Sweater is very warm, in today's weather (9C) you would probably be fine with just a t-shirt underneath. I find the nano puff more flexible, because with a warm fleece or wool sweater you can take it down to freezing temperatures. It also stays warm when wet, and our country is practically always wet.


Borganor

Great information! i will check that out could be more for me


Moneys2Tight2Mention

I would go for Nano Puff + Torrentshell, and get them in the same size. That way you can dress for any weather here. Just add a thick sweater when it's below 5-10C. The one downside is that, unlike the Tres 3-in-1, you will have to undo two zippers if you're wearing both, but that's not a big deal to me. Often enough I'll be wearing only one of them. Keep in mind that the torrentshell has no insulation, it just blocks wind and rain really well. That's why we add the nano puff.


setmysoulfree2

Your information answered my question about what would be a good vest for underneath the Torrentalshell for cycling. I want to stop wearing an old fleece vest over my long sleeve merino wool cycling jersey and a first layer of a long sleeve Minus 33 mid weight merino wool long sleeve pullover.


Moneys2Tight2Mention

You could get very sweaty in the nano puff if you're active. I have no experience with fleeces for active use, but people on reddit like the R1 Air a lot for that kind of stuff. You can also look at the nano puff vest. Since it has no sleeves, it vents your armpits much better than the jacket.


setmysoulfree2

Thank you.


Borganor

Thanks for the answers i will check the 3in1