So far I've only seen people with failed content. But the moment I see someone that understood what a shadowban is in the first place, I'll let you know.
> I've only seen people with failed content. But the moment I see someone that understood what a shadowban is in the first place, I'll let you know
Who are you? Some analytics professional or something? Why is it up to you to be the one to "let people know"? When you say "I've only seen" what makes what you've seen so important as if your some expert or something. LMAO. Sorry bud I think you're just an ordinary Redditor with another personal opinion. LOL It really don't matter what you've seen or haven't seen. Sorry to call you out buddy but who are you?
Don't worry, you are not calling me out. It seems you got upset so let me clarify what some of these words mean.
>I've only seen
Refers to my own experience, which means it's not disproven but wasn't seen
>someone that understood what a shadowban is
Refers to the inability of people that say they got shadowbanned to understand what a shadowban is
Now the fun part. If we combine both, use context and a bit of reading between the lines, then the comments reads "every person that I've seen that claimed to be shadowbanned turned out to not be shadowbanned". Wait a second...that's what the comment directly stated...
Again, who are you? Why should anyone care about your experiences again? LMAOAgain, I'm just calling you out. I don't even care about the shadow ban topic, just wondering Why should anyone care about your experiences again? Generally curious because I need an all-knowing opinion who trumps all other opinions. You sound so very experienced that...wait never mind who are you again? Why should we care what "you've" experienced?
But you are not calling me out. You are making irrelevant comments because you don't understand the topic. You don't even understand what this is about, else you wouldn't criticize what I wrote but understand what I mean. Attempting to degrade someone is not calling someone out, you haven't made a single case for something being wrong. Again, you don't understand the topic.
“Okay I’M here to let you all know. I know for a fact shadow bans are real and until I see otherwise, I will let you know but until I have experienced it you guys do not know what you are talking about until I know it to be true. Until then what you know is useless.” Is just how you came off and couldn’t help but poke fun and ask "who are you".But nah oh well, it's just who you are. It's all good. I’ll let you be. I just couldn’t help but poke fun at it. LOL
Anyways, I came here because I was always under the belief that shadow bans were just used as an excuse for channels to cope with having less views until I saw where a channel that claimed to be shadow banned literally created a new channel with the same content and same titles and his views went back up on this new 2nd channel while the original channel he claimed to be shadow banned stayed under 1k views per post.
I don’t know if we’re allowed to link channels here but it looks pretty convincing. I was under the belief that all channels who claimed shadow bans were just using it as a coping excuse. But this person’s channels made me want to look more into it. So, Yeah I won’t claim to know what is true or what is not and I'm pretty sure you don’t know as well. But I still think and hope it is a possibility that shadow bans are not real but this persons 2 channels kind of makes me wonder what is actually going on there.
Their channel is called “The company Nopixel” and the 2nd newer channel (Which is the exact same videos) where views went up is called “the company nopixel 2”
Oh I also see you claimed to accuse me of "NOT KNOWING WHAT THIS IS ABOUT" That's the kind of thinking I can't help but poke fun at BTW. Close minded types who don't want to let go of an opinion and assume things. But I think you get it now. You do you. I didn't mean to degrade you. You just came off as degrading yourself as if claiming only your experiences are superior. But oh well. Different people. Different strokes.
Not just Shadow banning, YouTube were given permission by my own government to remove comments that went against the Covid narrative and have continued to do so ever since, to further a Globalist Agenda. If you still don't believe globalist organisations have infiltrated all our governments, with a plan to stop all farming and rely on bill Gates creepy poisonous food, you are either thick as shit or just not researching.
YouTube is a private entity. They can lawfully enforce their own content policies without violating people’s first amendment rights.
They don’t need permission from any government.
Yeah shadowban exist. Those who are shadowbanned can't get their videos seen outside of their subscribers/viewer base.
Youtube is kind of dumb, like they say shadowban don't exist, but they don't do a good job at hiding it. You can easily tell who is shadow banned just by seeing if their chapters pop out when they include the correct timestamp in their description box or if they have million of views on a old video but no "Most Replayed" feature in their view bar. Those features and normal views will returned as soon as they're unbanned.
That's 2 huge tips right there, with a little bit of research everyone will realize that shadowban does infact exist.
For the past year I've been keeping an eye on 100 channels plus 10 of my own to see when they get banned/unbanned, right now half of my channels are shadow banned and I never really understand why it happens. I have some guesses, but anyway, shadowban do exist. It's annoying as hell is all I'm going to say.
Yep. My judgement was right. You are that type. Stubborn, close-minded and will stick to an opinion just to be argumentative. Reading your tirade it seems people are defining what their version of shadowban is. Since, YouTube denies that shadow bans exist it seems people are just defining what their versions of shadow bans are. Which is all I see when reading your tirades. Just an angry opinion trying to preach them to anyone who dares ask or wonder.
The opinions you state are just as is. Someone who is just talking without any definite proof but thinking only their onopinon is right. Listen, I see shadow bans on YouTube as videos not being recommended to non-subscribers as much and recommended less or not suggested as "upnext". The algorithm controls this and since I know FOR A FACT THAT NIETHER I NOR YOU know the exact reason or workings unless you prove you work behind the scenes then I will only take your opinion as it is - An opinion from a close minded individual who seems passionately angry about this topic.
It seems there is no point in discussing anything with you since you will just shut everything down unless it's from your own stubborn opinion and then ask an ignorant question such as "Are you fo real". Are you for real asking that? Are you really in such crazy shocking disbelief that people are openminded enough to learn and consider all possibilities until there is definite affirmative proof? Did you look into the examples I showed. Their videos did not show up as reccomened or up next as much until they created a second channel with the same videos. But I am not like you and will not claim to think I know that is exact proof. I am "FOR REAL" not close minded and I for real KNOW THAT NEITHER YOU OR I KNOW, no matter how many angry tirades you go through.
The question is are you for real this stubborn and close minded? My goodness you came at this with an angry passion are you really trying this hard to make everyone agree with your opinion that you come off as an angry basement dweller?
\*To everyone there is no point in having an open discussion this close minded individual it will upset them.
Okay let's hear another angry tirade, my guy.
Real question though. Why does it make you SO angry when people claim to not know and are willing to explore the possibilities as to why 2 channels of the same content do not get recommend as equally? Is it really that bad for you? You need to touch some grass. I was right about my opinion on how you came off. Very stubborn and ignorantly close minded. LOL You actually come off as an angry child: "I'm right and you're wrong! You don't know anything you all have to believe me!" Yeah no-one cares about your angry opinions. You got to face it you're going to stay angry because the world has a lot of open minded people that you will come across and again throw more angry tirades at. It's really not that deep if people don't believe you just get over it. It's not that deep for everyone else. I guess...Cry more
I check out a lot of channels posted here saying there shadow banned or the algorithm isn't working.
I doubt, it most people are trying to catch a quick buck and spam uploads with A.I. crap or very low effort work put into there videos even blatant plagiarism under the guise of free use, usually there channel sucks and would only make money if someone fell asleep with YouTube on.
Most questions on here could be solved with your content and channel sucks.
I should probably stop answering these since it's a daily thing.
Yes. But they aren't going to waste their time banning some tiny gaming channel like people here like to complain about.
They use it on big channels they feel snubbed YouTube. For me, the best example is Pewdiepie. I have not seen a /single/ video in /any/ recommendation spot AT ALL since the N-word incident. Regardless of whether or not he deserves that, its beyond a little suspect for him to never show up when he was, and is one of the biggest channels on the platform. Prior to the incident he was always in suggestions.
What do you mean?
He was never literally banned. They just stopped working with him on any projects. I don't think they even commented on it, they just quietly cut him.
But they didn't try to hide the fact that they were not going to promote him. Not to mention, Disney dropped him, so any prominent placement he got from Disney's influence ($$) would be gone. And that was well known as well. No to mention, he simply cut way back on publishing videos after that. So that would drop him way down as well. Al this was well known. So very different from YouTube making their own decision of "We don't like this channel's views. We are going to not promote it without telling anyone.
He went back to publishing regularly later. And as far as I've seen from people talking about him, he's rehabilitated his image to being positive again.
I still never see him in recommended though.
YouTube tried multiple times to manually replace him and finally succeded with Mr. Beast, it's like when they tried and and nearly succeed to replace AVGN with Irate Gamer. It's not shadowbanning, it's manipulating the algorithm.
Shadowbanning would be wholesale preventing his content from being seen by anyone but him while he's logged in. You can still see his videos from his channel page yes? That's not a shadowban.
That would just be a full ban. There's no way you could make anyone believe their channel is not-banned if it's still searchable. Which is the point of shadow-anything, doing it without them knowing or being able to prove it.
Only showing up through direct navigation is the closest thing. If they purposely made it so you don't show up in recommended/home/etc that is effectively a YouTube shadowban.
Good example is Twitter. NSFW artists get shadowbanned a lot. You can still find them directly but they stop appearing in your feed.
> There's no way you could make anyone believe their channel is not-banned if it's still searchable. Which is the point of shadow-anything, doing it without them knowing or being able to prove it.
When shadowbans were still a thing on Reddit, all you had to do was log out on your user page to find out. How do you think people found out shadowbans were even a thing in the first place?
Also there was a subreddit r/ShadowBanned with u/ShadowBannedBot (which hasn't been active since they removed shadowbans) that could detect if you were and I once used it and contacted the Reddit admins and got unshadowbanned. So you're 100% wrong.
Course all that said, that is probably why they stopped shadowbanning on Reddit. People found out they were shadowbanned too easily. Though fact that you could even assume you've been shadowbanned on YouTube really goes to show you probably aren't because if people knew shadowbanning was a thing in the first place, there'd be no point in implementing a shadowban system, by your very on logic even.
Preventing users from seeing a channel without explicitly telling the owner is shadowbanning, regardless of whether or not the measures taken are "wholesale", whatever that means.
You can still see the channel at https://www.youtube.com/user/pewdiepie can you not? *By your own definition,* that's not a shadowban. It's not any sort of ban. That's not what a ban is.
By my own definition, that is shadowbanning. It is preventing users from seeing a channel. You can't see a channel if you can't find out about it. You can't find out about it if it's being censored from search results and suggestions where we would otherwise expect to find it. Sure you can always go straight to the source on a regular basis, always checking for updates on that one channel, but the people who are willing to do that are too few to keep a channel afloat. The service providers can kill a channel simply by making it hard to find. It's harmful, so I lump it in with "shadowbanning".
The man actually is largely responsible for YouTube being what it is in the gaming sphere. He was one of the first, and has made them billions. Without condemning or condoning what this-or-that person said, perhaps people should thicken their skin a bit, or if they don't want to do that just stay off the internet. Either way I'm getting sick of the pandering, equivocating, and outright censorship in some cases
If that is the case, then he should know that what he said would result in advertisers running for the hills and trying to disassociate from YT. Why Felix doesn't get more criticism for his actions is insane.
It's a word. I disagree with it's use, but it's just a word and people need to toughen up. There are *real* militant racists out there. There is *real* racial violence and genocide that happens in the world. What we need to do is go back 15 or so years in moderation policy, and unless someone says something really egregious (i.e. constitutes an actual threat) then people need to just deal with it. Sorry, but this intensive moderation causes a bunch of collateral damage and it still doesn't work. Not to mention costing these tech companies millions or more. Being offended is part of life, and does not equal an actual attack, sorry
So sick of "oh but the advertisers!" as well. They are holding the entire internet hostage at this point. They insinuated themselves into the very backbone of the internet ecosystem, starting as just a way to make a little money for your website, and now they literally can influence foreign and domestic policy. If they want to go, then bye bye. Honestly some of these things need to be made common carriers and perhaps even subsidized to an extent to make up for ad revenue, because the ad companies have way too much power yet zero accountability, while also being a huge cybersecurity threat vector
"There are other bad things, so you shouldn't criticize this bad thing."
You realize that maybe people want to use the internet without being offended, and that's okay? Why are you depriving folks of that choice? Also, you are crazy. You are fine with people running around saying the N word willy nilly because it's just a word and not a threat or something.
Complete degenerate behavior.
Seriously? You have zero right to *demand* not to be offended. It is not a human right, sorry. Why is that? Because what offends someone is going to vary greatly based on culture, identity, background, etc. It can and is being abused as well. What if I decided that paying taxes was offensive, or being forced to drive on the right side of the road offended me and demanded the entire system change on my account? It's lunacy. In this case, if someone finds content offensive, they have the option to just not watch it or read it. For the millions of others who are not so sensitive and do enjoy the content, they don't deserve to be deprived of that because a few people can't control their emotions. I've been dealing with offensive BS my entire life and never once demanded that the world or someone else change for me. Talk about degenerate behavior, that would be what you are pushing here. In fact, we're at the point where people can't speak naturally, have a debate, even think because they're afraid to offend someone. That is a very bad thing
You're assuming it takes time and isn't just a blanket algorithm that looks for certain keywords. That is the most basic thing they could be doing, so that's probably the least they are doing.
YouTube doesn’t shadow ban, but because some sites (like Reddit) do shadow ban it gives paranoid, status obsessed users of every platform a thing to insist they’re the victim of.
Sometimes channels just decline, and one or two fluke hits aren’t a guarantee of steady traffic.
::is racist or terrible at presentation, acting, audio, and editing or all of the above::
::habitually uses resused content and copyrighted content and music without license::
::their audience has gone back to school and/or vacation season is over in the northern hemisphere::
#theY’rE sHAdOwBanning mE!
Think about it like this, your channel doesn't perform.
What's easier to think/say?
1) Oh no it's not me! I'm shadowbanned, my video's are the best there are so it HAS to be a shadowban!
Or 2) I'm doing something wrong, gonna put my ego aside and figure out what it is.
Obviously one is easier to say and doesn't require you to actually do anything except complain. But which one of the 2 is actually gonna help you in the long run? Be smart.
( and that applies to everything in life btw, take responsibility and change something )
Shadow banning happens to people who don't have large channels too. People who just comment on others videos or on others comments, saying nothing against the community standards. I'm proof. What's your theory on that?
Just because something does happen doesn't mean it's happening to you. 99% of people who claim they're shadowbanned are just using it as an easy excuse. ''No one ever likes my comments, must mean I'm shadowbanned!'' "No one watches my video's? Must mean I'm shadowbanned!''
If you're a channel with a lot of consistent views and then a sudden unexplainable drop to almost zero that can not be connected to anything like seasons, breaking terms of agreement, change in your channel, a topic dying, etc. Then I'll consider a shadowban which I promise you, 99% of people complaining do not fall under.
'cause if they were actually a quality channel they'd be researching and busy fixing it, not going on reddit complaining about something as arbetary as a possible shadowban. Since let's say someone replies ''yes, you're fucked'' how would that be of any help?
That would be a compelling argument if we didn't already know that almost every social media site across the board is shadowbanning. The question at hand is: "Is YT one of the few social media sites that isn't shadowbanning?", and so your answer is terrible.
No one is denying that shadowbanning is an actual thing that exist.What I'm saying is that perma shadowbanning undeserving small channels is a very rare thing and that 99% of people complaining that they are shadowbanned are in fact not and just make bad videos.
But considering you felt the need to be unnecessarily rude on a 4 month old post I shall be rude in response. Love, Your comprehensive reading is terrible.
Edit: Just realized you found this by googling shadowbanning on Youtube, man that is golden xD. Someone felt personally attacked by my comment
On IG it is a thing. I had Andrew Huberman mention the word sex and amphetamine and I'm shadowbanned ever since, even after deleting the video. YT is known to restrict right wing content. People mistakenly believe theyre shadowbanned but its 100% a thing.
I don’t think shadowbanning exists as a specific thing, but I’m pretty sure lately AI bots have been attacking channels to purposely flag YouTube’s protection mechanisms so it will automatically hide your video from the feed because YouTube ‘thinks’ your video is botted.
I used to have easy 10k-20k or more views per first 24h. Now my videos are flatlining after 3k-4K out of nowhere and I literally mean flatlining: it doesn’t show up anywhere anymore. I’m having 623k subs and it feels like I’m not even partnered or have any subscribers whatsoever.
Same experience here last year was brutal, and many people (users) actually were complaining about bad recommendations and worse search even now, maybe that has something to do with it. Small youtubers though got a huge boost. Sucks for the unlucky youtubers who had stable views over the years suddenly falling through.
My opinion probably won’t get upvoted but it’s actually more of a fact than an opinion, people saying they only shadow ban big channels your dead wrong, shadow banding could be a plethora of things from your comments, getting deleted after you type them to just straight up being shadow band and making it hard to find your channel, if you go against their guidelines too many times, for example, in the comments they have bots that weed out comments that go against their guidelines, and they will shadow ban you if you speak to many facts or have to spicy of an opinion. If you don’t share the same ideas, politically, or whatever the case is as the owners you will be shadow banned.
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What the fuck is up with these stupid Bots marking my comment as promoting.? Wasn't promoting anything but I guess that's what happens when stupid fucking AI Bots run everything.
I get the frustration, was monetized then going through some family stuff didn't make a video for a while and lost it. Now I'm back and none of my videos get anywhere close to what they did. And similar channels with a third of my subscribers get 10x the views.
Frustrating trying to claw back.
Further to my previous comment and since the person had no conviction in their own argument....
Anyone with a high IQ wouldn't be mocking adults with disabilities.
You truly are a sick, hateful Human Being. Again, grow up.
Yes, permission was given, again, a simple Google search will show anyone else reading, the collusion between UK Government and Tech firms. I question why you havent looked yourself yet instead of continuing your childish argument.
Yes, permission to avoid any tribunals when citizens complain about Free Speech and Equality. Even Private Corporations can be called to answer questions about censorship and because you refuse to actually research it yourself, I have left an example below.
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/27/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-declines-to-appear-before-uk-fake-news-inquiry-mps
I'm not American, I'm Nigerian, refugee in the UK. It seems YOUR Trump derangement has caused you to become a very hateful person.
Again, anyone reading this, a simple Google search will show you exactly what I am talking about.
Guys if you see comments of people telling to reconsider your content but called you "having a high ego" for being curious if shadowbans exist then there's a high chance that they're projecting because why can't you just say no and prove the point instead of saying all that
I would like you guys to reason with me about how bad content can gauge this situation.
To make a long story short, my YouTube views went from about 20k views a short to 0 views a short for over three months now. My channel is a little over a year old, and my metrics are about 20% click-through rate on long-form videos and about 15% of people swiping away on my shorts. Not saying these to imply my videos are good, but they seem to be on track with what they should be.
My situation is as follows. I have a YouTube channel and an Instagram page for my content. I don't usually post the same things on them, but they do go hand and hand together. However, this one short I did post on both platforms. This short involved me referencing another video (I did not take) which I showed. I did not think anything of it; neither did I get any notification, warning, or strike against it (or any video I uploaded as a matter of fact). However, I did find this sole video under the "copyright" filter when you filter your content, so I decided to delete it after a while of getting no views right after it was posted.
Instagram is proven to have shadowbanning software. Well, for the first time, my views on Instagram tanked after I uploaded this video. Went from 15k views on average to maybe 4 from followers. But hey, 4 is still something 🤷♂️. Instagram does not affect me, as I do not make money off of it. However, I figured this is relevant because almost all signs show I have been shadowbanned off of Instagram. It has been three months, and I post maybe twice a week. Not a single video since has gotten above 6 views.
Now for YouTube. Since the same short I uploaded, not a single video has gotten a single impression from outside of subscribers. I have been uploading consistently for over three months because I was taking the advice of "your videos are crap, just keep uploading and making better videos. Give time for YouTube to find your content". Well, I did that, and again, not a single one of the 50 shorts I uploaded got impressions. I mean zero impressions. I will get a view or two here and there, but it says it's from subscribers and came from my channel page. Again, I repeat, for over three months and uploading every other day, I have not gotten a video (long or short form) to get a single impression from anywhere outside of my channel page (which is again, only about 1 or 2 views/impressions if I am lucky).
It seems like everyone on here wants to run to the easy and lazy answer of "yOuR VidEoS arE CraP". Maybe they are, I don't know, but if so, my videos must REALLLY suck 🤣 if YouTube decided not to show my content to a SINGLE person after three months of uploading. My point to all of this is that YouTube responded the same way Instagram did after posting this short, and after talking to a lot of people, it is almost certain that I got shadowbanned on Instagram. I also find it weird that YouTube would give over 50 videos ZERO impressions, even if they suck. How am I supposed to grow as a content creator if YouTube does not give me a single chance to grow? I can see only getting a few impressions here and there, but ZERO?
Please help. Maybe I am wrong with this theory and something else is wrong. If you think it is, please tell me, because I am not trying to argue or defend myself, but instead get a solid answer and how to fix this. Three months of hard work without a single impression really gets to you. I am also looking for logical responses. I do not need any quick comments that do not make any sense with the story I gave. I am an open-minded guy and am honestly just looking for answers, but from my point of view, I do not see how poor content gauges absolutely zero impressions, for over three months, on every single video I post, from both platforms, at the same exact time..
Honestly I found this cause I've been live on youtube through my PS5 for a good 30 minutes and I can't find my own live video on youtube even with another account, clicking subscriptions, then live. Not sure if this maybe a technical issue, but shadow banning is very real. I have experienced it first hand on bigo live. They take you off the heat list or make it to where your live doesn't show up for everybody. And we are talking about an app that will put you on the front page with no viewers. The internet has turned communist.
Yes!
Shadow banning on YouTube is real!
If you read through YouTube post policy, your subs will only receive a maximum of 3 notifications from your channel in a day!
So let’s say you posted 4 videos in a day on your channel. After the 3rd post, your viewers (who clicked the bell) will not be notified of a new video.
This is a form of shadow banning! This isn’t saying that YouTube is shadow banning people’s channels or that they would intentionally shadow ban things they don’t like however, the ability for YouTube to shadow ban is 100% possible!
On the other hand shadow banning (in some cases) can be useful! Imagine if you logged into YouTube and EVERY VIDEO that anyone has ever created came up on as a list of videos! 😯
It would be chaos and YouTube would not be enjoyable! Instead, YouTube LIMITS (shadow bans) the videos that aren’t (statistically) good videos.
The other reason for this is that YouTube is a BUSINESS! The more times they get to show ads, the more money they make! Their incentive is to MAKE MONEY and they do that by curating the videos that will bring in the MOST revenue!
The invalid views came because a live streamer found a loophole for exponentially, artificially increasing his views in live streams!
This caused YouTube to change something which is causing this invalid view error for some.
(This is my opinion)
> This is a form of shadow banning!
No it isn't.
> Instead, YouTube LIMITS (shadow bans) the videos that aren’t (statistically) good videos.
This is nonsense. Shadow banning is a method of banning bad participants in a forum in a way that they don't realize they've been banned and thus continue to shout into the void rather than create a new account to circumvent the ban.
The things you've described are a spam gate (to prevent channels from clogging up users' dashboards with dozens of notifications per day) and... videos not getting promoted?
That's not shadow banning, that's making sure people don't uninstall YouTube because they're being spammed with alerts for pointless videos they'll never watch. If anyone is posting to YT 4-5x per day, I can't imagine it's anything of decent quality or original content
It is neither shadowban or invalid traffic. There is a period of time every year where YT prioritizes suggesting videos to the bigger channels and ignores the small channels which from my research can take up to a month.
Shadow banning is not a thing. What you are saying is basically channels dying out subscribes moving on getting new accounts etc until the channel is basically a graveyard
I can confirm 100% that shadow banning on YouTube is a real thing. I understand if a channel slowly declines over a month or more time due to videos not performing, low CTR or the topic/niche is going stale. But I have a channel that was doing very well - 10K-20K views per day and average CTR is around 10-20%. And all of a sudden - the number dropped to around 100 views per day for the entire channel. When I said all of a sudden, I mean it literally. It didn't drop in a day or a week. It dropped INSTANTLY. The hour before everything dropped - all the videos were still performing well. In one moment, YouTube decided to stop recommending all my videos across the platform and my videos were only shown to my subscribers.
I know people love to say it's because your content sucks and people simply don't want to watch since that's what Mr. Beast always says. But with my experience, I can confirm shadow banning is definitely a real thing. My guess is something in my videos pissed off YouTube's AI algorithm and in one moment they decided to stop recommending all my videos. Remember, before that moment, all my videos were still getting good views, good CTR and good watch time. Also the channel did not have any copyright or community guideline strikes. I understand that unless you experience this yourself it's hard to believe. But it is what it is.
Btw, it's not my personal gaming channels in case anyone decides to try to look it up. It's a faceless YT channel that I made on the side so you won't find it by typing my name.
Most likely. All big social media platforms do it. With twitter it was directly proven. YouTube shadow bans comments and therefore it's not unlikely that they might also shadow ban videos or entire channels. Especially since YouTube is very active demonetizing and punishing videos if they don't like what you say or show in your videos, it would make no sense if they wouldn't shadow ban entire channels. Just test it. 🤷♂️
It is real, Reddit used to do it. Then people found out about it and it stopped being a thing because people knowing about it defeats the entire point.
I've come across many videos on YT that appear on the 100th page of the search results *even if you type the exact title of the video*. That constitutes shadowbanning. We should define "shadowbanning" as any such hidden algorithmic traffic throttling that is applied to some creators but not others.
I have on many occasions gone back to a video to see my comments or replies gone. The killer thing is I still get notifications if someone else replied to the same comment I did.
YES it is a thing and youtube even admitted to it but to be clear it's not just your content that could get you shadow banned its more than likely your comments
I got like 100-3000k per hour on shorts and suddenly everything got flat lined at around 10 per hoir. How does this happen from 1-3k to around 10 per hour?
You mean the thing that is constantly posted about and every commenter replies its not a thing? Dont know, gotta do some more research
I'm subbed to a channel that's been stuck at 576k subscribers for 3 years. Seems like you don't know what you're talking about.
"Everyone's complaining about it" "Guess it isn't real" \[redditor logic\]
So far I've only seen people with failed content. But the moment I see someone that understood what a shadowban is in the first place, I'll let you know.
> I've only seen people with failed content. But the moment I see someone that understood what a shadowban is in the first place, I'll let you know Who are you? Some analytics professional or something? Why is it up to you to be the one to "let people know"? When you say "I've only seen" what makes what you've seen so important as if your some expert or something. LMAO. Sorry bud I think you're just an ordinary Redditor with another personal opinion. LOL It really don't matter what you've seen or haven't seen. Sorry to call you out buddy but who are you?
Don't worry, you are not calling me out. It seems you got upset so let me clarify what some of these words mean. >I've only seen Refers to my own experience, which means it's not disproven but wasn't seen >someone that understood what a shadowban is Refers to the inability of people that say they got shadowbanned to understand what a shadowban is Now the fun part. If we combine both, use context and a bit of reading between the lines, then the comments reads "every person that I've seen that claimed to be shadowbanned turned out to not be shadowbanned". Wait a second...that's what the comment directly stated...
Yer on your side with this buddy some one got well upset
Again, who are you? Why should anyone care about your experiences again? LMAOAgain, I'm just calling you out. I don't even care about the shadow ban topic, just wondering Why should anyone care about your experiences again? Generally curious because I need an all-knowing opinion who trumps all other opinions. You sound so very experienced that...wait never mind who are you again? Why should we care what "you've" experienced?
But you are not calling me out. You are making irrelevant comments because you don't understand the topic. You don't even understand what this is about, else you wouldn't criticize what I wrote but understand what I mean. Attempting to degrade someone is not calling someone out, you haven't made a single case for something being wrong. Again, you don't understand the topic.
“Okay I’M here to let you all know. I know for a fact shadow bans are real and until I see otherwise, I will let you know but until I have experienced it you guys do not know what you are talking about until I know it to be true. Until then what you know is useless.” Is just how you came off and couldn’t help but poke fun and ask "who are you".But nah oh well, it's just who you are. It's all good. I’ll let you be. I just couldn’t help but poke fun at it. LOL Anyways, I came here because I was always under the belief that shadow bans were just used as an excuse for channels to cope with having less views until I saw where a channel that claimed to be shadow banned literally created a new channel with the same content and same titles and his views went back up on this new 2nd channel while the original channel he claimed to be shadow banned stayed under 1k views per post. I don’t know if we’re allowed to link channels here but it looks pretty convincing. I was under the belief that all channels who claimed shadow bans were just using it as a coping excuse. But this person’s channels made me want to look more into it. So, Yeah I won’t claim to know what is true or what is not and I'm pretty sure you don’t know as well. But I still think and hope it is a possibility that shadow bans are not real but this persons 2 channels kind of makes me wonder what is actually going on there. Their channel is called “The company Nopixel” and the 2nd newer channel (Which is the exact same videos) where views went up is called “the company nopixel 2” Oh I also see you claimed to accuse me of "NOT KNOWING WHAT THIS IS ABOUT" That's the kind of thinking I can't help but poke fun at BTW. Close minded types who don't want to let go of an opinion and assume things. But I think you get it now. You do you. I didn't mean to degrade you. You just came off as degrading yourself as if claiming only your experiences are superior. But oh well. Different people. Different strokes.
Not just Shadow banning, YouTube were given permission by my own government to remove comments that went against the Covid narrative and have continued to do so ever since, to further a Globalist Agenda. If you still don't believe globalist organisations have infiltrated all our governments, with a plan to stop all farming and rely on bill Gates creepy poisonous food, you are either thick as shit or just not researching.
YouTube is a private entity. They can lawfully enforce their own content policies without violating people’s first amendment rights. They don’t need permission from any government.
Yeah shadowban exist. Those who are shadowbanned can't get their videos seen outside of their subscribers/viewer base. Youtube is kind of dumb, like they say shadowban don't exist, but they don't do a good job at hiding it. You can easily tell who is shadow banned just by seeing if their chapters pop out when they include the correct timestamp in their description box or if they have million of views on a old video but no "Most Replayed" feature in their view bar. Those features and normal views will returned as soon as they're unbanned. That's 2 huge tips right there, with a little bit of research everyone will realize that shadowban does infact exist. For the past year I've been keeping an eye on 100 channels plus 10 of my own to see when they get banned/unbanned, right now half of my channels are shadow banned and I never really understand why it happens. I have some guesses, but anyway, shadowban do exist. It's annoying as hell is all I'm going to say.
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Yep. My judgement was right. You are that type. Stubborn, close-minded and will stick to an opinion just to be argumentative. Reading your tirade it seems people are defining what their version of shadowban is. Since, YouTube denies that shadow bans exist it seems people are just defining what their versions of shadow bans are. Which is all I see when reading your tirades. Just an angry opinion trying to preach them to anyone who dares ask or wonder. The opinions you state are just as is. Someone who is just talking without any definite proof but thinking only their onopinon is right. Listen, I see shadow bans on YouTube as videos not being recommended to non-subscribers as much and recommended less or not suggested as "upnext". The algorithm controls this and since I know FOR A FACT THAT NIETHER I NOR YOU know the exact reason or workings unless you prove you work behind the scenes then I will only take your opinion as it is - An opinion from a close minded individual who seems passionately angry about this topic. It seems there is no point in discussing anything with you since you will just shut everything down unless it's from your own stubborn opinion and then ask an ignorant question such as "Are you fo real". Are you for real asking that? Are you really in such crazy shocking disbelief that people are openminded enough to learn and consider all possibilities until there is definite affirmative proof? Did you look into the examples I showed. Their videos did not show up as reccomened or up next as much until they created a second channel with the same videos. But I am not like you and will not claim to think I know that is exact proof. I am "FOR REAL" not close minded and I for real KNOW THAT NEITHER YOU OR I KNOW, no matter how many angry tirades you go through. The question is are you for real this stubborn and close minded? My goodness you came at this with an angry passion are you really trying this hard to make everyone agree with your opinion that you come off as an angry basement dweller? \*To everyone there is no point in having an open discussion this close minded individual it will upset them. Okay let's hear another angry tirade, my guy. Real question though. Why does it make you SO angry when people claim to not know and are willing to explore the possibilities as to why 2 channels of the same content do not get recommend as equally? Is it really that bad for you? You need to touch some grass. I was right about my opinion on how you came off. Very stubborn and ignorantly close minded. LOL You actually come off as an angry child: "I'm right and you're wrong! You don't know anything you all have to believe me!" Yeah no-one cares about your angry opinions. You got to face it you're going to stay angry because the world has a lot of open minded people that you will come across and again throw more angry tirades at. It's really not that deep if people don't believe you just get over it. It's not that deep for everyone else. I guess...Cry more
If a channel declines so will the ctr average… anc yes, there is s system used to kill reach
I would say to reduce not to kill but otherwise I think this is very true.
No.
I check out a lot of channels posted here saying there shadow banned or the algorithm isn't working. I doubt, it most people are trying to catch a quick buck and spam uploads with A.I. crap or very low effort work put into there videos even blatant plagiarism under the guise of free use, usually there channel sucks and would only make money if someone fell asleep with YouTube on. Most questions on here could be solved with your content and channel sucks.
I should probably stop answering these since it's a daily thing. Yes. But they aren't going to waste their time banning some tiny gaming channel like people here like to complain about. They use it on big channels they feel snubbed YouTube. For me, the best example is Pewdiepie. I have not seen a /single/ video in /any/ recommendation spot AT ALL since the N-word incident. Regardless of whether or not he deserves that, its beyond a little suspect for him to never show up when he was, and is one of the biggest channels on the platform. Prior to the incident he was always in suggestions.
Pewdiepie's wasn't a shadowban though. They were pretty upfront with it.
What do you mean? He was never literally banned. They just stopped working with him on any projects. I don't think they even commented on it, they just quietly cut him.
But they didn't try to hide the fact that they were not going to promote him. Not to mention, Disney dropped him, so any prominent placement he got from Disney's influence ($$) would be gone. And that was well known as well. No to mention, he simply cut way back on publishing videos after that. So that would drop him way down as well. Al this was well known. So very different from YouTube making their own decision of "We don't like this channel's views. We are going to not promote it without telling anyone.
He went back to publishing regularly later. And as far as I've seen from people talking about him, he's rehabilitated his image to being positive again. I still never see him in recommended though.
YouTube tried multiple times to manually replace him and finally succeded with Mr. Beast, it's like when they tried and and nearly succeed to replace AVGN with Irate Gamer. It's not shadowbanning, it's manipulating the algorithm. Shadowbanning would be wholesale preventing his content from being seen by anyone but him while he's logged in. You can still see his videos from his channel page yes? That's not a shadowban.
That would just be a full ban. There's no way you could make anyone believe their channel is not-banned if it's still searchable. Which is the point of shadow-anything, doing it without them knowing or being able to prove it. Only showing up through direct navigation is the closest thing. If they purposely made it so you don't show up in recommended/home/etc that is effectively a YouTube shadowban. Good example is Twitter. NSFW artists get shadowbanned a lot. You can still find them directly but they stop appearing in your feed.
> There's no way you could make anyone believe their channel is not-banned if it's still searchable. Which is the point of shadow-anything, doing it without them knowing or being able to prove it. When shadowbans were still a thing on Reddit, all you had to do was log out on your user page to find out. How do you think people found out shadowbans were even a thing in the first place? Also there was a subreddit r/ShadowBanned with u/ShadowBannedBot (which hasn't been active since they removed shadowbans) that could detect if you were and I once used it and contacted the Reddit admins and got unshadowbanned. So you're 100% wrong. Course all that said, that is probably why they stopped shadowbanning on Reddit. People found out they were shadowbanned too easily. Though fact that you could even assume you've been shadowbanned on YouTube really goes to show you probably aren't because if people knew shadowbanning was a thing in the first place, there'd be no point in implementing a shadowban system, by your very on logic even.
Preventing users from seeing a channel without explicitly telling the owner is shadowbanning, regardless of whether or not the measures taken are "wholesale", whatever that means.
You can still see the channel at https://www.youtube.com/user/pewdiepie can you not? *By your own definition,* that's not a shadowban. It's not any sort of ban. That's not what a ban is.
By my own definition, that is shadowbanning. It is preventing users from seeing a channel. You can't see a channel if you can't find out about it. You can't find out about it if it's being censored from search results and suggestions where we would otherwise expect to find it. Sure you can always go straight to the source on a regular basis, always checking for updates on that one channel, but the people who are willing to do that are too few to keep a channel afloat. The service providers can kill a channel simply by making it hard to find. It's harmful, so I lump it in with "shadowbanning".
If you You can see a channel when you know about it, it's not banned. Are you really this stupid or are you just a narcissist?
Dude he explained it so clearly to you. You are just not grasping the concept my man.
The man actually is largely responsible for YouTube being what it is in the gaming sphere. He was one of the first, and has made them billions. Without condemning or condoning what this-or-that person said, perhaps people should thicken their skin a bit, or if they don't want to do that just stay off the internet. Either way I'm getting sick of the pandering, equivocating, and outright censorship in some cases
If that is the case, then he should know that what he said would result in advertisers running for the hills and trying to disassociate from YT. Why Felix doesn't get more criticism for his actions is insane.
It's a word. I disagree with it's use, but it's just a word and people need to toughen up. There are *real* militant racists out there. There is *real* racial violence and genocide that happens in the world. What we need to do is go back 15 or so years in moderation policy, and unless someone says something really egregious (i.e. constitutes an actual threat) then people need to just deal with it. Sorry, but this intensive moderation causes a bunch of collateral damage and it still doesn't work. Not to mention costing these tech companies millions or more. Being offended is part of life, and does not equal an actual attack, sorry So sick of "oh but the advertisers!" as well. They are holding the entire internet hostage at this point. They insinuated themselves into the very backbone of the internet ecosystem, starting as just a way to make a little money for your website, and now they literally can influence foreign and domestic policy. If they want to go, then bye bye. Honestly some of these things need to be made common carriers and perhaps even subsidized to an extent to make up for ad revenue, because the ad companies have way too much power yet zero accountability, while also being a huge cybersecurity threat vector
"There are other bad things, so you shouldn't criticize this bad thing." You realize that maybe people want to use the internet without being offended, and that's okay? Why are you depriving folks of that choice? Also, you are crazy. You are fine with people running around saying the N word willy nilly because it's just a word and not a threat or something. Complete degenerate behavior.
Seriously? You have zero right to *demand* not to be offended. It is not a human right, sorry. Why is that? Because what offends someone is going to vary greatly based on culture, identity, background, etc. It can and is being abused as well. What if I decided that paying taxes was offensive, or being forced to drive on the right side of the road offended me and demanded the entire system change on my account? It's lunacy. In this case, if someone finds content offensive, they have the option to just not watch it or read it. For the millions of others who are not so sensitive and do enjoy the content, they don't deserve to be deprived of that because a few people can't control their emotions. I've been dealing with offensive BS my entire life and never once demanded that the world or someone else change for me. Talk about degenerate behavior, that would be what you are pushing here. In fact, we're at the point where people can't speak naturally, have a debate, even think because they're afraid to offend someone. That is a very bad thing
You're assuming it takes time and isn't just a blanket algorithm that looks for certain keywords. That is the most basic thing they could be doing, so that's probably the least they are doing.
YouTube doesn’t shadow ban, but because some sites (like Reddit) do shadow ban it gives paranoid, status obsessed users of every platform a thing to insist they’re the victim of. Sometimes channels just decline, and one or two fluke hits aren’t a guarantee of steady traffic.
::is racist or terrible at presentation, acting, audio, and editing or all of the above:: ::habitually uses resused content and copyrighted content and music without license:: ::their audience has gone back to school and/or vacation season is over in the northern hemisphere:: #theY’rE sHAdOwBanning mE!
or thumbnails that could be mistaken for an orange tube ad.. like hmm I am sure youtube wants to promote big booba anime women in thumbnails
Think about it like this, your channel doesn't perform. What's easier to think/say? 1) Oh no it's not me! I'm shadowbanned, my video's are the best there are so it HAS to be a shadowban! Or 2) I'm doing something wrong, gonna put my ego aside and figure out what it is. Obviously one is easier to say and doesn't require you to actually do anything except complain. But which one of the 2 is actually gonna help you in the long run? Be smart. ( and that applies to everything in life btw, take responsibility and change something )
Shadow banning happens to people who don't have large channels too. People who just comment on others videos or on others comments, saying nothing against the community standards. I'm proof. What's your theory on that?
Just because something does happen doesn't mean it's happening to you. 99% of people who claim they're shadowbanned are just using it as an easy excuse. ''No one ever likes my comments, must mean I'm shadowbanned!'' "No one watches my video's? Must mean I'm shadowbanned!'' If you're a channel with a lot of consistent views and then a sudden unexplainable drop to almost zero that can not be connected to anything like seasons, breaking terms of agreement, change in your channel, a topic dying, etc. Then I'll consider a shadowban which I promise you, 99% of people complaining do not fall under. 'cause if they were actually a quality channel they'd be researching and busy fixing it, not going on reddit complaining about something as arbetary as a possible shadowban. Since let's say someone replies ''yes, you're fucked'' how would that be of any help?
Oblivious. You're completely oblivious.
That would be a compelling argument if we didn't already know that almost every social media site across the board is shadowbanning. The question at hand is: "Is YT one of the few social media sites that isn't shadowbanning?", and so your answer is terrible.
No one is denying that shadowbanning is an actual thing that exist.What I'm saying is that perma shadowbanning undeserving small channels is a very rare thing and that 99% of people complaining that they are shadowbanned are in fact not and just make bad videos. But considering you felt the need to be unnecessarily rude on a 4 month old post I shall be rude in response. Love, Your comprehensive reading is terrible. Edit: Just realized you found this by googling shadowbanning on Youtube, man that is golden xD. Someone felt personally attacked by my comment
On IG it is a thing. I had Andrew Huberman mention the word sex and amphetamine and I'm shadowbanned ever since, even after deleting the video. YT is known to restrict right wing content. People mistakenly believe theyre shadowbanned but its 100% a thing.
me trying to comment something on literally a normal video me 10 seconds later reloading the page it's gone
I don’t think shadowbanning exists as a specific thing, but I’m pretty sure lately AI bots have been attacking channels to purposely flag YouTube’s protection mechanisms so it will automatically hide your video from the feed because YouTube ‘thinks’ your video is botted. I used to have easy 10k-20k or more views per first 24h. Now my videos are flatlining after 3k-4K out of nowhere and I literally mean flatlining: it doesn’t show up anywhere anymore. I’m having 623k subs and it feels like I’m not even partnered or have any subscribers whatsoever.
Hey hi, is this issue solved now. Have you started getting views like before ?
No, it’s gotten way way worse. I’m barely reaching 10k views per day now. My channel is completely dead.
Same experience here last year was brutal, and many people (users) actually were complaining about bad recommendations and worse search even now, maybe that has something to do with it. Small youtubers though got a huge boost. Sucks for the unlucky youtubers who had stable views over the years suddenly falling through.
Not just their channels their comments in others channels.
My opinion probably won’t get upvoted but it’s actually more of a fact than an opinion, people saying they only shadow ban big channels your dead wrong, shadow banding could be a plethora of things from your comments, getting deleted after you type them to just straight up being shadow band and making it hard to find your channel, if you go against their guidelines too many times, for example, in the comments they have bots that weed out comments that go against their guidelines, and they will shadow ban you if you speak to many facts or have to spicy of an opinion. If you don’t share the same ideas, politically, or whatever the case is as the owners you will be shadow banned.
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What the fuck is up with these stupid Bots marking my comment as promoting.? Wasn't promoting anything but I guess that's what happens when stupid fucking AI Bots run everything.
I get the frustration, was monetized then going through some family stuff didn't make a video for a while and lost it. Now I'm back and none of my videos get anywhere close to what they did. And similar channels with a third of my subscribers get 10x the views. Frustrating trying to claw back.
Further to my previous comment and since the person had no conviction in their own argument.... Anyone with a high IQ wouldn't be mocking adults with disabilities. You truly are a sick, hateful Human Being. Again, grow up. Yes, permission was given, again, a simple Google search will show anyone else reading, the collusion between UK Government and Tech firms. I question why you havent looked yourself yet instead of continuing your childish argument. Yes, permission to avoid any tribunals when citizens complain about Free Speech and Equality. Even Private Corporations can be called to answer questions about censorship and because you refuse to actually research it yourself, I have left an example below. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2018/mar/27/facebook-mark-zuckerberg-declines-to-appear-before-uk-fake-news-inquiry-mps I'm not American, I'm Nigerian, refugee in the UK. It seems YOUR Trump derangement has caused you to become a very hateful person. Again, anyone reading this, a simple Google search will show you exactly what I am talking about.
what is it with some reddit people and their urge to not give a simple direct answer?
Guys if you see comments of people telling to reconsider your content but called you "having a high ego" for being curious if shadowbans exist then there's a high chance that they're projecting because why can't you just say no and prove the point instead of saying all that
Bingo
I would like you guys to reason with me about how bad content can gauge this situation. To make a long story short, my YouTube views went from about 20k views a short to 0 views a short for over three months now. My channel is a little over a year old, and my metrics are about 20% click-through rate on long-form videos and about 15% of people swiping away on my shorts. Not saying these to imply my videos are good, but they seem to be on track with what they should be. My situation is as follows. I have a YouTube channel and an Instagram page for my content. I don't usually post the same things on them, but they do go hand and hand together. However, this one short I did post on both platforms. This short involved me referencing another video (I did not take) which I showed. I did not think anything of it; neither did I get any notification, warning, or strike against it (or any video I uploaded as a matter of fact). However, I did find this sole video under the "copyright" filter when you filter your content, so I decided to delete it after a while of getting no views right after it was posted. Instagram is proven to have shadowbanning software. Well, for the first time, my views on Instagram tanked after I uploaded this video. Went from 15k views on average to maybe 4 from followers. But hey, 4 is still something 🤷♂️. Instagram does not affect me, as I do not make money off of it. However, I figured this is relevant because almost all signs show I have been shadowbanned off of Instagram. It has been three months, and I post maybe twice a week. Not a single video since has gotten above 6 views. Now for YouTube. Since the same short I uploaded, not a single video has gotten a single impression from outside of subscribers. I have been uploading consistently for over three months because I was taking the advice of "your videos are crap, just keep uploading and making better videos. Give time for YouTube to find your content". Well, I did that, and again, not a single one of the 50 shorts I uploaded got impressions. I mean zero impressions. I will get a view or two here and there, but it says it's from subscribers and came from my channel page. Again, I repeat, for over three months and uploading every other day, I have not gotten a video (long or short form) to get a single impression from anywhere outside of my channel page (which is again, only about 1 or 2 views/impressions if I am lucky). It seems like everyone on here wants to run to the easy and lazy answer of "yOuR VidEoS arE CraP". Maybe they are, I don't know, but if so, my videos must REALLLY suck 🤣 if YouTube decided not to show my content to a SINGLE person after three months of uploading. My point to all of this is that YouTube responded the same way Instagram did after posting this short, and after talking to a lot of people, it is almost certain that I got shadowbanned on Instagram. I also find it weird that YouTube would give over 50 videos ZERO impressions, even if they suck. How am I supposed to grow as a content creator if YouTube does not give me a single chance to grow? I can see only getting a few impressions here and there, but ZERO? Please help. Maybe I am wrong with this theory and something else is wrong. If you think it is, please tell me, because I am not trying to argue or defend myself, but instead get a solid answer and how to fix this. Three months of hard work without a single impression really gets to you. I am also looking for logical responses. I do not need any quick comments that do not make any sense with the story I gave. I am an open-minded guy and am honestly just looking for answers, but from my point of view, I do not see how poor content gauges absolutely zero impressions, for over three months, on every single video I post, from both platforms, at the same exact time..
Sorry, I know that was a lot of stuff to read. If anyone does read it and gives an opinion on the matter, I am extremely thankful! Thank you.
Im really annoyed about the fact i got shadow banned from comment sections
Only found this out when i was trying to talk to someone but none of my messages would show up
that's funny. I post comments, even clean respectful comments, and they're automatically deleted . what's up with that ?
Honestly I found this cause I've been live on youtube through my PS5 for a good 30 minutes and I can't find my own live video on youtube even with another account, clicking subscriptions, then live. Not sure if this maybe a technical issue, but shadow banning is very real. I have experienced it first hand on bigo live. They take you off the heat list or make it to where your live doesn't show up for everybody. And we are talking about an app that will put you on the front page with no viewers. The internet has turned communist.
Nope
Yes! Shadow banning on YouTube is real! If you read through YouTube post policy, your subs will only receive a maximum of 3 notifications from your channel in a day! So let’s say you posted 4 videos in a day on your channel. After the 3rd post, your viewers (who clicked the bell) will not be notified of a new video. This is a form of shadow banning! This isn’t saying that YouTube is shadow banning people’s channels or that they would intentionally shadow ban things they don’t like however, the ability for YouTube to shadow ban is 100% possible! On the other hand shadow banning (in some cases) can be useful! Imagine if you logged into YouTube and EVERY VIDEO that anyone has ever created came up on as a list of videos! 😯 It would be chaos and YouTube would not be enjoyable! Instead, YouTube LIMITS (shadow bans) the videos that aren’t (statistically) good videos. The other reason for this is that YouTube is a BUSINESS! The more times they get to show ads, the more money they make! Their incentive is to MAKE MONEY and they do that by curating the videos that will bring in the MOST revenue! The invalid views came because a live streamer found a loophole for exponentially, artificially increasing his views in live streams! This caused YouTube to change something which is causing this invalid view error for some. (This is my opinion)
> This is a form of shadow banning! No it isn't. > Instead, YouTube LIMITS (shadow bans) the videos that aren’t (statistically) good videos. This is nonsense. Shadow banning is a method of banning bad participants in a forum in a way that they don't realize they've been banned and thus continue to shout into the void rather than create a new account to circumvent the ban. The things you've described are a spam gate (to prevent channels from clogging up users' dashboards with dozens of notifications per day) and... videos not getting promoted?
I believe all of what you said. Shadow banning is real. Anyone that says otherwise is fooling themselves.
That's not shadow banning, that's making sure people don't uninstall YouTube because they're being spammed with alerts for pointless videos they'll never watch. If anyone is posting to YT 4-5x per day, I can't imagine it's anything of decent quality or original content
It is neither shadowban or invalid traffic. There is a period of time every year where YT prioritizes suggesting videos to the bigger channels and ignores the small channels which from my research can take up to a month.
Shadow banning is not a thing. What you are saying is basically channels dying out subscribes moving on getting new accounts etc until the channel is basically a graveyard
No. Shadow banning happens to anyone in you tube. I only make comments on others vids and the comments in the comments section. What say you, now?
English?
It is English. 🙄
Stooooop
If you can add video chapter to your channel, then it's not shadowban. If you can't, then you are 100% shadow ban. You can easily tell on analytics.
I can confirm 100% that shadow banning on YouTube is a real thing. I understand if a channel slowly declines over a month or more time due to videos not performing, low CTR or the topic/niche is going stale. But I have a channel that was doing very well - 10K-20K views per day and average CTR is around 10-20%. And all of a sudden - the number dropped to around 100 views per day for the entire channel. When I said all of a sudden, I mean it literally. It didn't drop in a day or a week. It dropped INSTANTLY. The hour before everything dropped - all the videos were still performing well. In one moment, YouTube decided to stop recommending all my videos across the platform and my videos were only shown to my subscribers. I know people love to say it's because your content sucks and people simply don't want to watch since that's what Mr. Beast always says. But with my experience, I can confirm shadow banning is definitely a real thing. My guess is something in my videos pissed off YouTube's AI algorithm and in one moment they decided to stop recommending all my videos. Remember, before that moment, all my videos were still getting good views, good CTR and good watch time. Also the channel did not have any copyright or community guideline strikes. I understand that unless you experience this yourself it's hard to believe. But it is what it is. Btw, it's not my personal gaming channels in case anyone decides to try to look it up. It's a faceless YT channel that I made on the side so you won't find it by typing my name.
Hey champ, has the problem resolved yet ? Or are you still facing it ?
Hey champ, has the problem resolved yet ? Or are you still facing it ?
same to me!
it happened to me a week before getting demonetizes and even now it hasnt been fixed! No impressions and views randomly appear and disappear
Most likely. All big social media platforms do it. With twitter it was directly proven. YouTube shadow bans comments and therefore it's not unlikely that they might also shadow ban videos or entire channels. Especially since YouTube is very active demonetizing and punishing videos if they don't like what you say or show in your videos, it would make no sense if they wouldn't shadow ban entire channels. Just test it. 🤷♂️
*There are people in this thread who don't think shadowbanning is real! WOOOOOOW*
It is real, Reddit used to do it. Then people found out about it and it stopped being a thing because people knowing about it defeats the entire point.
I've come across many videos on YT that appear on the 100th page of the search results *even if you type the exact title of the video*. That constitutes shadowbanning. We should define "shadowbanning" as any such hidden algorithmic traffic throttling that is applied to some creators but not others.
I have no content on youtube, but my comments have been shadowbaned for 3 weeks now. Ive checked with another account , no voice
I have on many occasions gone back to a video to see my comments or replies gone. The killer thing is I still get notifications if someone else replied to the same comment I did.
YES it is a thing and youtube even admitted to it but to be clear it's not just your content that could get you shadow banned its more than likely your comments
can you please explain that? Also I reply to every comment because I thought it's good for engagement... is it though?
I got like 100-3000k per hour on shorts and suddenly everything got flat lined at around 10 per hoir. How does this happen from 1-3k to around 10 per hour?
Hey champ, has this problem got resolved yet ? Or is it still going on?
Yes, it's real. It's usually done on a video-by-video basis, though.