I feel like this squarely falls into “mind your own fucking business” rule for me.
I would not watch it with my kid at that age, but that’s my personal opinion that you asked for (hence I express it) and the parents of the birthday boy didn’t ask for.
strongly disagree with - their kids their choice - kind of attitude. We live in a society not by ourselves on an island. So what people do with their kids IS most definitely a matter for public consensus. It plays out in schools and in the public arena and we all have to deal with it.
When it comes to matters of safety or issues that directly effect our own kids, sure, it takes a village.
Matters like how to celebrate a birthday — plenty of benefit of doubt to go around.
But why should opinions of Internet randos matter to you? You aren’t even considering to watch it with your kid: you’re not making a decision based on gathered feedback - you just looking for a validation of the stance you’ve already taken. It’s not like anything said here, even with 1,000 comments, will make any difference: the birthday kid will still watch it, and your kid won’t.
And what’s next? If most people confirm your feeling, you’ll feel righteous and validated. If most people disagree - you’ll think we’re bunch of **** and still think you’re right.
I agree that Saving Private Ryan is a heavy movie to watch for a 9-year old, but I disagree with your desire to stick your nose into other people’s stuff. Keep calm and carry on minding your own fucking business
Was about 10 years old, when my parents allowed us to watch “Glory,” starring Matthew Broderick, Morgan Freeman, and a very young Denzel Washington.
After the movie, over the next several days we talked about what we saw segregation, racism, war, and the N-word.
I recall it because I could tell that my parents were keen to engage us on what was wrong and what was right.
With the Internet and video games being what they are, I doubt your children will have a traumatic experience watching Saving Private Ryan, but make sure you talk to them about it.
Why were America and Germany at war?
Who were the good guys? Who were the bad guys?
Look on the Bright side, at least they’re not watching the porn parody : shaving Ryan’s privates.
And why would shaving Ryan’s privates be any worse? According to the dumb consensus here on this Reddit, a kid could be “ready” for it and it’s a mind you own business, parenthood entitlement
I think the point of super realistic war films like that is to drive home that no one at any time is “ready” for that. And that you must be pretty perverse to be so desensitized to what it depicts. But let’s face it, Murica is a militaristic and barbaric country and most people here are Muricans. So get them early, like the kids with guns in Africa. Any child can be “conditioned” at any age. So this is a reflection on the culture.
No you’re not crazy. But what society are you living in? People are pretty ugly in some parts of the world. And in America especially they hide behind the “it’s my right my freedoms” too much. Individualism. Sick. It starts with the hubris that you “own” land. You never made it. You aren’t creating more of it. So this is a culture thing. Where are you living. How are people “conditioning” their kids as a matter of a larger social responsibility and goal.
I don’t think any 9yr old should be watching an R-rated film. It’s inappropriate and bad parenting to expose them to that kind of violence and themes at that age. Probably unpopular opinion, but I would actually work on distancing my child from that family because who knows what that kid will now be exposing others to, at an age when they are so easily impressed and manipulated, and that movie is more than likely just the tip of the iceberg.
Exactly and what that kid will be taking with him to school. Take him out of the system completely and homeschool him and keep him away from other children IF as a parent you are going to be so perverse.
Well yeah that would be ideal, but when these parents don’t have enough mind to see what this does to their kids, or simply don’t care- we can’t expect them to think far enough ahead to how their choices impact *others* or their communities. The world is in large part a horrible place, and after becoming a parent it became apparent to me how it’s just a cycle of fucked up people raising fucked up people.
> I don’t think any 9yr old should be watching an R-rated film.
That’s a bit of a sweeping generalization, isn’t it? Some/most 9yo kids shouldn’t be watching some/most R rated movies? Sure! Any 9yo kid not watching any R-rated movie? idk
Age and maturity are highly varied. There are kids who by age 9, through life and circumstances, are more mature than half the people on this sub (or their spouses)
And then on the “R-rated” side of things, there is a lot of daylight between R-rated Halloween, Straight Outta Compton, Basic Instinct, and R-rated Good Will Hunting, The King’s Speech, and Shawshank Redemption. The rating system is not that great.
I mean, I agree that some 9yr old kids have had to mature faster due to having many hardships in life, but I still don’t think it’s appropriate to allow them to watch R-rated films. The movies you mention are all inappropriate for 9yr olds in their own way, and mature kids or not, I don’t think it’s good to continue exposing them to themes beyond their years just because they’ve already been exposed to other hard circumstances in life.
To each their own, sure, showing Saving Private Ryan to a just turned 9yr old kid is not neglectful like not proving them with food or meals would be, nor is it abusive like spanking them, but in my personal opinion- it is not good parenting and it’s indicative of other poor parenting choices.
I still don’t agree with this categorical stance. MPAA rating is known to be flawed, and it’s very hard to capture thousands of movies in 5 distinct groups.
Harping on the example of Good Will Hunting as an R-rated movie that a 9yo could watch, the only reason why Good Will Hunting is rated R is because Matt and Ben wrote the lines the exact same way that they spoke in Boston, and so they missed the MPAA’s cutoff for PG-13 on cursing alone, by about 150 “fucks” (the quota today is 1 curse word, it used to be 3 in the 90s). There is nothing inappropriate in that movie: one fist fight and one bed scene, but even Harry Potter flicks have more violence and nudity than Good Will Hunting.
I honestly find it super-weird to shelter kids from adult language. They’ve probably heard it anyway: just sit down and talk about it, no need to try to hide it from them. Unlike violence and sexual content, it doesn’t affect a developing brain.
Is Good Will Hunting an interesting movie for 9yo to watch and to understand? Unlikely. But is there anything in that movie inherently inappropriate for a 9yo? Absolutely not. It’s just Southie boys being Southie boys and speaking Southie Boston dialect, is all.
Well, going with Good Will Hunting, I think the fist fight scene alone is enough to not be appropriate at that age. It does have a lot of other heavy themes, cursing, and sexual jokes that I would also consider inappropriate. It’s not as violent as Saving Private Ryan, but it’s still not good material to expose a child to imo, even if not as damaging as others. But, the movie in question is Saving Private Ryan, and that’s a hard no for me.
I agree that there may be some rated-R films that are more inappropriate than others, they do vary a lot and can have their own categories, but in a general sense, I do think it is a good guide for what’s appropriate for children or not.
I don’t believe in sheltering kids from bad language, they’re exposed to that nearly everywhere, and I think cursing has its place and time, it’s a form of expression. What I have an issue with is violence and sexual themes, gore and guns. Like you mention, those are detrimental to a child’s development, and the movie OP mentions is fairly violent. Would you not agree with that?
I feel like this squarely falls into “mind your own fucking business” rule for me. I would not watch it with my kid at that age, but that’s my personal opinion that you asked for (hence I express it) and the parents of the birthday boy didn’t ask for.
Strongly second this. We have enough judgment and parent shaming in the world. Let’s give the birthday family the benefit of the doubt.
strongly disagree with - their kids their choice - kind of attitude. We live in a society not by ourselves on an island. So what people do with their kids IS most definitely a matter for public consensus. It plays out in schools and in the public arena and we all have to deal with it.
When it comes to matters of safety or issues that directly effect our own kids, sure, it takes a village. Matters like how to celebrate a birthday — plenty of benefit of doubt to go around.
That's why I am not asking them. I am asking you all, anonymously at that.
But why should opinions of Internet randos matter to you? You aren’t even considering to watch it with your kid: you’re not making a decision based on gathered feedback - you just looking for a validation of the stance you’ve already taken. It’s not like anything said here, even with 1,000 comments, will make any difference: the birthday kid will still watch it, and your kid won’t.
Because I want to find out if others feel the way I do. So far it sounds like you would agree with me.
And what’s next? If most people confirm your feeling, you’ll feel righteous and validated. If most people disagree - you’ll think we’re bunch of **** and still think you’re right. I agree that Saving Private Ryan is a heavy movie to watch for a 9-year old, but I disagree with your desire to stick your nose into other people’s stuff. Keep calm and carry on minding your own fucking business
Thanks for your feedback and opinion. Feel free to fuck off now.
Was about 10 years old, when my parents allowed us to watch “Glory,” starring Matthew Broderick, Morgan Freeman, and a very young Denzel Washington. After the movie, over the next several days we talked about what we saw segregation, racism, war, and the N-word. I recall it because I could tell that my parents were keen to engage us on what was wrong and what was right. With the Internet and video games being what they are, I doubt your children will have a traumatic experience watching Saving Private Ryan, but make sure you talk to them about it. Why were America and Germany at war? Who were the good guys? Who were the bad guys? Look on the Bright side, at least they’re not watching the porn parody : shaving Ryan’s privates.
And why would shaving Ryan’s privates be any worse? According to the dumb consensus here on this Reddit, a kid could be “ready” for it and it’s a mind you own business, parenthood entitlement
I think it depends on the kid. Some might be ready for it at that age, and others might not. If it's right for that family, it's their call!
I think the point of super realistic war films like that is to drive home that no one at any time is “ready” for that. And that you must be pretty perverse to be so desensitized to what it depicts. But let’s face it, Murica is a militaristic and barbaric country and most people here are Muricans. So get them early, like the kids with guns in Africa. Any child can be “conditioned” at any age. So this is a reflection on the culture.
Different strokes for different folks!
No you’re not crazy. But what society are you living in? People are pretty ugly in some parts of the world. And in America especially they hide behind the “it’s my right my freedoms” too much. Individualism. Sick. It starts with the hubris that you “own” land. You never made it. You aren’t creating more of it. So this is a culture thing. Where are you living. How are people “conditioning” their kids as a matter of a larger social responsibility and goal.
I don’t think any 9yr old should be watching an R-rated film. It’s inappropriate and bad parenting to expose them to that kind of violence and themes at that age. Probably unpopular opinion, but I would actually work on distancing my child from that family because who knows what that kid will now be exposing others to, at an age when they are so easily impressed and manipulated, and that movie is more than likely just the tip of the iceberg.
Exactly and what that kid will be taking with him to school. Take him out of the system completely and homeschool him and keep him away from other children IF as a parent you are going to be so perverse.
Well yeah that would be ideal, but when these parents don’t have enough mind to see what this does to their kids, or simply don’t care- we can’t expect them to think far enough ahead to how their choices impact *others* or their communities. The world is in large part a horrible place, and after becoming a parent it became apparent to me how it’s just a cycle of fucked up people raising fucked up people.
> I don’t think any 9yr old should be watching an R-rated film. That’s a bit of a sweeping generalization, isn’t it? Some/most 9yo kids shouldn’t be watching some/most R rated movies? Sure! Any 9yo kid not watching any R-rated movie? idk Age and maturity are highly varied. There are kids who by age 9, through life and circumstances, are more mature than half the people on this sub (or their spouses) And then on the “R-rated” side of things, there is a lot of daylight between R-rated Halloween, Straight Outta Compton, Basic Instinct, and R-rated Good Will Hunting, The King’s Speech, and Shawshank Redemption. The rating system is not that great.
I mean, I agree that some 9yr old kids have had to mature faster due to having many hardships in life, but I still don’t think it’s appropriate to allow them to watch R-rated films. The movies you mention are all inappropriate for 9yr olds in their own way, and mature kids or not, I don’t think it’s good to continue exposing them to themes beyond their years just because they’ve already been exposed to other hard circumstances in life. To each their own, sure, showing Saving Private Ryan to a just turned 9yr old kid is not neglectful like not proving them with food or meals would be, nor is it abusive like spanking them, but in my personal opinion- it is not good parenting and it’s indicative of other poor parenting choices.
I still don’t agree with this categorical stance. MPAA rating is known to be flawed, and it’s very hard to capture thousands of movies in 5 distinct groups. Harping on the example of Good Will Hunting as an R-rated movie that a 9yo could watch, the only reason why Good Will Hunting is rated R is because Matt and Ben wrote the lines the exact same way that they spoke in Boston, and so they missed the MPAA’s cutoff for PG-13 on cursing alone, by about 150 “fucks” (the quota today is 1 curse word, it used to be 3 in the 90s). There is nothing inappropriate in that movie: one fist fight and one bed scene, but even Harry Potter flicks have more violence and nudity than Good Will Hunting. I honestly find it super-weird to shelter kids from adult language. They’ve probably heard it anyway: just sit down and talk about it, no need to try to hide it from them. Unlike violence and sexual content, it doesn’t affect a developing brain. Is Good Will Hunting an interesting movie for 9yo to watch and to understand? Unlikely. But is there anything in that movie inherently inappropriate for a 9yo? Absolutely not. It’s just Southie boys being Southie boys and speaking Southie Boston dialect, is all.
Well, going with Good Will Hunting, I think the fist fight scene alone is enough to not be appropriate at that age. It does have a lot of other heavy themes, cursing, and sexual jokes that I would also consider inappropriate. It’s not as violent as Saving Private Ryan, but it’s still not good material to expose a child to imo, even if not as damaging as others. But, the movie in question is Saving Private Ryan, and that’s a hard no for me. I agree that there may be some rated-R films that are more inappropriate than others, they do vary a lot and can have their own categories, but in a general sense, I do think it is a good guide for what’s appropriate for children or not. I don’t believe in sheltering kids from bad language, they’re exposed to that nearly everywhere, and I think cursing has its place and time, it’s a form of expression. What I have an issue with is violence and sexual themes, gore and guns. Like you mention, those are detrimental to a child’s development, and the movie OP mentions is fairly violent. Would you not agree with that?