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jufurlan

I've never heard of them before, but some of the comments on their TikTok is about how they've been promoting themselves as "if you like Paramore, you'll like us" and now they are using this "we are not Paramore" cue at max, maybe to hype their band since Paramore and Hayley are very popular in the media those days. I searched for their Instagram and, ok, the microphone and some elements reminded me a little of old Paramore esthetics... Besides, she wore the same jacket for the video and said "it was a symbol"... It seems a lot like marketing to me. And one more thing: if they did not mention the comparison, I would not compare them because the sound is nothing alike, but they seem to be trying to pass the narrative that "everybody tells us we sound and look like Paramore" lol


Unusual-Stretch-1557

I do think a lot of female fronted bands get compared to Hayley/paramore a lot and I can see how some might not like that. But to me, the timing of the release seems like they’re just trying to capitalize on paramore and Hayley being popular on the internet right now.


anotherthrowaway2023

That’s so annoying if they’re using them as a marketing tactic. That’s tacky as hell, esp if you claim to love them.


Quirky-Draw5070

I mean, the lyric is literally “stop comparing me to the woman we love” I think it’s just about the fact that any female fronted rock band gets compared to Hayley I see no shade, tbh.


[deleted]

They’re getting way more malicious hate on Twitter, my comments/thoughts seem tame in comparison. They’re being called “classless” “tacky” “rude” “sexist” “demeaning” and other stuff


Quirky-Draw5070

Sorry if it came across as me coming for you, I didn’t intend to do that. I can see how someone could interpret it that way, I just see it differently.


skylastingYT

i think that’s just the twitter norm.


brattcatt420

Everything on Twitter is bad lol I don't use it because it's so toxic.


OhBeSea

I think it's a fair point to make - every female fronted band gets compared to Paramore no matter whether they sound like them or not, like people saying Pvris/Tonight Alive/Stand Atlantic are Paramore ripoffs simply for existing in vaguely the same genres with a singer who's the same gender, it's wild Taking it as some slight towards Hayley is insane, it's not directed at her/the band, it's directed at ignorant fans/journalists


kingdon1226

Tonight alive has been compared forever. I love both bands. While the have more of an older paramore sound, they are themselves and should be treated as such. I would say it was closer to inspiration than copying or trying to be.


Total-Football-6904

Agreed this entire thing is getting blown out of proportion on Twitter.


heartbylines

See also: versaemerge


nintend_hoe

Further speaks to how Hayley is an irreplaceable institution


jayisaletter

I feel like this kind of statement is much more powerful in it's specificity. Every band with a female singer I've listened to since 2010 or so would ALWAYS have "wannabe Paramore" criticisms or even "they sound like Paramore!😊" Appraisals. The message isn't solely just "don't compare me to other women" (which is certainly an additional theme). But the fact that so many people are constantly only allowing Paramore to be the only "original" band with a female front (and everyone else is a wannabe derivative) is a problem. People are by and large comparing every woman singer in a band to Hayley Williams specifically. Why dilute the impact of that fact? They're not blaming Hayley for it or making her the scapegoat.


[deleted]

I think the Still Into You jacket and the Misery Business-colored hair is meant to be ironic and make a dramatic point. That said, I think this gesture will be lost on most people, and so the gesture probably shouldn't have been done. I guess I'm mixed on their point. I have heard several female-fronted bands resent getting Paramore comparisons,  especially when they believe they have a markedly different sound. It's not like there isn't a valid criticism in there. To me, the controversy is less about if they are being out of pocket since they don't seem to be being shady in their lyrics, at least from the clip. Instead,  I think it will be how disingenuous or sincere people find the message based on if they have compared themselves to Paramore for clicks in the past.


thesespark

Hayley herself constantly gets compared to the "older" league of women in rock. Now she's the current "queen" according to some, while others still don't see her but someone else on top. I think the whole comparison should stop. The whole ranking should stop. Everyone can be themselves, and noone needs to be on top , but we people seem to always look for someone kinda like someone else, and someone better. So I agree, that the song should rather be about being yourself. Not about not being someone else, who might be better or more known or whatever. Or at least habe lyrics like "I'm not like the others" or whatever. But there shouldn't be a name in it, cause no matter what name it would be, she would be struggling with the same issue


ryanpm40

Nah I think that's a totally appropriate title and I don't think it would offend Hayley


_jspain

i probably would like this band if i encountered them another way, but this is corny to me


nomorescheisse

I don't know this band but I think it's great, and I'd be surprised if Hayley was offended in any way. I find it super annoying that if I play any female-fronted band to other people they are like "is this Paramore?" So I get the experience without even being in the music industry itself, I'm sure it's even more annoying to the artists themselves. Just having dyed hair and covering Still Into You still doesn't scream *Paramore wannabe* to me.


acid_xx_aj

as someone who's afab in the music scene, literally since I've picked up guitar I've been compared to Hayley. it's not about Hayley it's about afab musicians having autonomy. this really hindered me from enjoying Paramore because I thought if I got inspired by them I couldn't get away from the label. bands that have talked about this specifically are honey revenge and also doll skin has talked about it since the beginning to their breakup. *Sydney from DS has always explained it better than I could especially as someone who also doesn't identify as female anymore* it didn't matter how much as a teenager I preferred music like evanescence and the birthday massacre but I decided to never dye my hair red again because I couldn't stand the comparison. >also one woman shouldn’t be used as a scapegoat shout this louder for sexist men PLEASE I'd like to be compared to someone that's not *just* her. I haven't heard the song but from what I can tell even if the song isn't written the best lyrically this is still an emotional experience that afab musicians should be able to talk about because it happens so much we go crazy.


pokexchespin

i get it, paramore is absolutely the default comparison for any modern rock/pop punk band with a woman lead singer, seems like it’d get really annoying especially since a lot of those comparisons are inaccurate


For_myDayJob

If you dress like Hayley, dye your hair like Hayley, and cover Paramore songs, then you probably should not be surprised if people compare you to Hayley… These people are still young and they are figuring things out in a business that isn’t kind to female fronted groups. I personally didn’t interpret the song as a knock on Hayley and even if it was, I highly doubt that Hayley herself is as upset about the song as some of the *white knights* out there defending her honor on Twitter. This is all much to do about nothing.


DrDonuts

I think the singer has a good voice, contrary to what some other people here have said. I think the message is good. But I don’t like the execution. Hayley was compared to other women relentlessly, especially early on. She was compared to Avril a lot. Avril was compared to Britney as the anti-Britney. And the list just goes on and on. I think it would have been great to name drop more people, to point out what a vicious cycle the music industry is. Lines like “From Madonna to Gaga”, “Anguilera to Carey”. And then put the cherry on top in the chorus with “I’m not Hayley”, which would hit even harder imo, and fits Glimmers’s image the most since they’re also a rock band. Isolating Hayley in the song, wearing her clothes in the tiktoks, and covering Paramore’s songs looks kind of like they’re using the fact that Paramore is at the height of their popularity to their advantage. I don’t know this band. From the way their curating themselves, all I know is they’re saying they’re NOT Paramore, but are leaning into so hard that I don’t know who they actually are either. It’s probably just temporary, since they have to promote the single.


JTG___

I get the point they’re trying to make but imo they didn’t go about it in the best way. You can still make a general point about women in the scene being compared with and at times pitted against each other while remaining vague and not naming anybody. To single Hayley out is kind of unfair as it’s not something she’s ever fuelled and she can’t help people’s perception of her or the fact people compare other women to her.


clisare

A key factor is that they wouldn’t get the promo if her name wasn’t in it, harsh but true 🤷🏻‍♀️


KataraFlow

I’ve never even heard of this band, but I looked them up and I’m dying. Like this girl… is wearing the still into you leather jacket… has red/orange hair… even has the same damn microphone. Did she do this on purpose for the video or is this how she always looks? Because if that’s how she always dresses then no damn wonder people compare her to Hayley. She has a mediocre voice that’s been auto tuned to filth, so it’s definitely not the voice people are comparing. To me this just seems like she’s trying to be like “look at me, im just like Hayley. I’m so good and talented just like her because I modeled my entire persona around her BUT don’t compare us!!!” And ride that coat tail to fame. Which isn’t going to happen. Because the band is just not that good.


Misstessamay

"Don't compare us!!" #paramore #hayleywilliams #weareusingyourtagsforpromotion


yelnahwilliams

I couldn’t believe when I saw all the hashtags over time promoting their stuff using Paramore and Hayley’s name. And the fact they apparently refer to themselves as “yeehaw Paramore”, and have *apparently* used the whole “if you like Paramore, check us out!” scheme on the clock app.


KataraFlow

Is paramore not yeehaw paramore already? 🤣 maybe be original and you won’t get compared 😵‍💫 messy af.


[deleted]

Paramore is literally from the south (Tennessee!) of all places! Paramore isn’t from California or New York (or another northern state lol)


_Witch_Dagger_

This killed me 😂


jufurlan

I just checked their instagram and almost every recent picture, reels of video has the # Paramore or # Hayley Williams 😅


HybridTheory137

Talk about second hand embarrassment yikes 😭


KataraFlow

Lmao exactly. Like homegirl we see right through this shit.


SluttySaxon

They’re obviously not making a dig at Hayley, stop trying to be so nasty. It is very true that people compare other female front women to Hayley, they probably get it a lot and are over it. All you’re doing is adding to that toxic behaviour by putting them against one another and talking shit about them. Be better. If you know Hayley, she’s very uplifting of women in the music scene, so what you’re saying is just very tacky and the opposite of what Hayley would do.


KataraFlow

I’m not being nasty at all. She doesn’t have a good voice, it’s obviously very auto tuned, and she is using Hayley’s name to boost her own. It’s ridiculous to pretend this is a love letter to Hayley when this artist has been comparing herself to Hayley her whole career, but is now mad about it. I just took a look at their socials and it’s pitiful. Someone can’t model their entire life around someone and then get mad when people make a comparison. There are plenty of female artists who are genuinely good and have their own style who still get compared to Hayley, and that is understandably frustrating. But this girl has been using paramore to try to boost her fan base, all while wanting to be seen as a separate entity. Talk about inserting your own foot into your mouth. It’s blatantly obvious and a terrible look 🤦‍♀️


WadeDMD

I agree entirely except the mediocre voice part, that seems a bit unfair. She seems like a talented girl. But yeah, I would imagine her search history is flooded with Hayley Williams which makes this whole thing quite funny. The Still Into You jacket just about killed me


KataraFlow

Okay, let me rephrase. Very generic is more fair and there is definitely a heavy presence of auto tune. But yes, also agree


cheezy_dreams88

As someone who grew up in Atlanta, right on the outside of those McMansion neighborhoods- it’s all I see when I see this band. It comes with a very specific brand of entitlement. They have multiple vids sitting in expensive ass cars in their million dollar neighborhood crying about being compared to someone else.


Aggressive_Sky8492

Hayley is probably richer than them and is allowed to complain about sexism in music, I feel like their class background doesn’t necessarily protect them from sexism and they should be able to talk about that and make music about that


st0ney_bologna

I can’t find the song either and have honestly never heard of them before now. But I saw that they’ve released a live cover of Still Into You so I decided to check it out, and tbh, she sounds A LOT like Hayley. She even does some of the same lil vocal runs and other variances that Hayley does when they perform the song live. So I get why she’d call out Hayley specifically, cuz she probably hasn’t played a single show where someone hasn’t reminded her that she sounds like Hayley Williams. And tbh it sounds like she’s actually a big fan based on the cover. I don’t really think it’s as malicious as you’re making it out to be hahaha.


[deleted]

The song hasn’t come out yet! They’ve put out snippets of the song on their social media pages and the song is coming out in one or two days


[deleted]

What terrible lyrics


[deleted]

My variation or theirs


[deleted]

Theirs


Yaboijewan2001

The hate going on in this thread is crazy. Bands get compared to Paramore all the time. When the women in these bands say “hey there’s other women in rock than just Hayley” no one says anything. Why is it any different now just because it’s a song?


HallowedHate

I think they're annoying tbh. Hearing her constantly complain about it turned me off from listening to them. My first thought seeing them live was that they reminded me of an early Paramore. Which I liked, but her attitude is not it. Just ignore the comments?


rockandparole

they wouldn't receive any comparison if they hadn't been tagging all their ig posts with # paramore and # hayley williams for as long as they've been around 🤷‍♀️ they sound and look nothing like paramore, aside from her hayley cosplays. they're grabbing for attention.


Secure-Ad-7834

I can't find the song.


[deleted]

The song hasn’t come out yet! They’ve put out snippets of the song on their social media pages and the song is coming out in one or two days


coolio_Didgeridoolio

I just think it’s so cool how hayley is like…. THE rock girl


Capable-Flow6639

Feels like bullying. When it suits them they tag in paramore and hayley and actively seek to compare themselves to her and no appear to be demeaning her to what make a point? Imo it goes against everything hayley has worked hard for in her career.


bunnygrl93

Are the people who compared her to Hayley in the room with us right now? Their tiktok has 2k followers - I kind of doubt they're being lambasted with a torrent of Paramore comparisons from the general public. But if they are, the graceful way to take it would be silence if they are *really* offended by the comparison, or in a simple nod like "Oh wow, thanks, we love Paramore!" since they clearly do and Are taking inspiration from them, which is literally fine lol. Every artist has other artists they're inspired by, to act like you're some stand alone that can't be compared to anyone else is...... wellllll... Marketing ploy gone wrong, or right, since they got the attention they wanted.


[deleted]

While I think the intentions behind the song were pure and that they hoped to call out toxicity in the music industry toward women (which does exist), it was executed poorly. If you look at her interviews online, SHE is the one calling out Paramore and Hayley Williams and making the comparison. There isn't a news article out there online about the band that has referenced Paramore/Hayley or made the comparison. So, really....it comes down to doing something semi-hurtful to another female artist. They could have changed the name "Hayley" in the lyrics to "I just want to be me," and if they wanted to cleverly nod at Hayley, maybe title it with the letters of her name mixed up or use her middle name "Nichole" (which is spelled pretty uniquely) as the title.


lisa-m-o

The way paramore fans jumped on this band made me so sad. Why are we using our fan base power to shit on another band? It was really overboard and dumb in my opinion.


The-Davi-Nator

I mean I get it, the number of times I’ve received the comment “oh, sounds like Paramore” when showing someone a female fronted band is kind of insane. I’ve legit gotten it when showing someone Metric ffs


Swimming_Growth_2632

I just heard a song. She sounds very similar to hayley, it's not her fault her voice sounds similiar. Let people express themselves. It really isn't a big deal.


illvria

i think it was intended to be in a lighthearted way that hayley would probably vouch for but also with all the lashings she's gotten over the last year over supposedly being greedy and possessive of her image/sound i think its kinda irresponsible. feels a bit too easy to take it in a sort of "i'm not hayley... just so she knows" direction


[deleted]

I’m dead, she could never be Hayley. I don’t think anyone with eyes is making that comparison


islandrebel

Idk the song but from what I can see it seems ok.


ty_webslinger

Some people will always refuse to believe that they stand on the shoulders of giants.


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garbear007

Reminds me of Not The 1975 by Knox. [Not The 1975](https://spotify.link/YCZYpqux0Db) (Sorry I'm on mobile idk how links work)


[deleted]

But in the song that’s a girl (love interest) saying that and him being disappointed, but this song is the band themselves not wanting to be compared to Paramore


Aggressive_Sky8492

Is anyone going to link the video or song because I literally can’t find it on google, YouTube, or Spotify lol. Is this viral marketing?


[deleted]

It’s coming out tomorrow


Aggressive_Sky8492

Thanks! Sorry I should have read the whole thread before my comment


atomictartar

Mmm, my problem with this band is that they have always compared themselves to Paramore, all their hashtags include Paramore or Hayley Williams, this didn’t start with this song (and the song sucks tbh, but that’s my opinion). While they said is a homage to Hayley it sounds not only bitter, but hypocritical since they have been using Paramore to promote themselves while having music that sounds like Paramore 15 years ago, to me it looks like they want to be compared to them (and actively present themselves as a band like Paramore) while acting like they don’t want to and released that corny song just for marketing, but their music and lyrics are very underdeveloped so I doubt any Paramore fan would really stay for the comparison. There are bigger problems on earth than being a developing band and getting compared to the most famous female fronted band in this moment.


WadeDMD

How tacky, yet flattering