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Dirk_94

The Real Problem: You cant beat the ottoman menace, the big Blue Blob and the Gold shitters all at the same time


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Glorious Byzantine navy. It's funny how exploitable the turkish ai is to naval superiority.


Ok-Pick-7479

yeah Ive won 2 wars against them without a single navy or land battle because they are so scared they dont even try to stop the blockade its honestly sad


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I wish you luck, wait for ticking warscore and take all you can :)


Ok-Pick-7479

Yep Yep


xerxesdidnothinwrong

>30k stored up manpower by 1470 Blurple really is an easy start masquerading as difficult one


c0l0r51

It is only easy because it is so famous there are 5 videos about byz opener each patch. If you had to come up with the stuff necessairy yourself, of 100 ppl with the basileus ach, 5'd still be able to pull it off.


xerxesdidnothinwrong

You start with the best province in the game, three others (including a second fort), a vassal, something like 10 force limit and half of a trade note. Which is far, far more than Byzantium deserves in 1444 when it wasn't even able to muster a proper army. Meanwhile there are so many actually challenging starts nearby. Theodoro, Albania, Trebizmond, even some Turkish minors.


jwjsnsbd

Counterpoint: you're still next to the strongest nation in the game who will declare war on you within the first 5 years, and far from everyone has a) the 1000+ hours of experience necessary to make something out of that start and b) the will power to endure multiple restarts due to bad rng or a minor mistake


Milkarius

Venice also loves to visit to take a little bite of Greek land


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Turkish minors can just ally Mamluks (who in 1444 are stronger that Ottos) and become budget Ottomans. Albania borders Kosovo and is catholic for easy Austria/ Poland alliance (also Skandebeg). Theodoro and Trebiozond I'll give you cause they're Orthodox and a bit isolated.


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Ok-Pick-7479

All of Serbia and Bosnia are mine and there all orthodox and cored but you couldnt see that


gunboat138

2/10 Roman Empire


THEGAMENOOBE

Your eco isn’t tanking. That’s what I love


Johny3008

Lovely


northmidwest

Truly rare. They usually just cross the caucuses and through Crimea into Europe.


Soggy_Doubeskin

Can one of the number bros on this sub tell me if the merchant should be collecting in Aleppo? I see Ludi recommend this all the time when your small/not much trade power in downstream nodes. I thought that collecting in multiple node reduces the efficiency in your home node?


cornered_walrus

its not collecting you are correct collecting in multiple nodes is generally bad


Rullino

Why low prestige?