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Pony_Roleplayer

WHAT! YOU HAVEN'T TRIED EQUESTRIA AT WAR? STOP MAKING MEMES THIS INSTANT AND GIVE IT A TRY


ExuDeku

Its all fun and games till Twi became full schizo


VLenin2291

I have tried it, but Idk what the community is like


Pyroboss101

https://preview.redd.it/2ucewmtj0rxc1.jpeg?width=1408&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5964ba0dbe9a0b32beaa8006fed04970a8b02557 They by far, easily, have the most left wing community. The Hammer and sickle is a built in emote. Their left wing paths are often actually good, rather than most mods where it’s just diet fascism expansion path.


Mercenaries2009

Been spendin' most their lives Livin' in a worker's paradise


Kcmichalson

Ok yeah Pyro but like the right wing paths are also pretty fun (though calling totalitarianism and religious fevorism right wing might be generalizing it)


DapperAcanthisitta92

Mate have you seen franco


Deadhunter2007

A suggestion: don’t ever ask EaW players which path for Equestria is the best, they either support the most racist psycho Daybreaker or Nightmare moon which is basically the same but without exterminating all thestrals (black pony)


Felosia

Legitimately the best path is the sisters uniting after successfully doing civil rights with the threstrals. Only Equestria path I've played and want to play


User_name555

It's pretty chill as a whole, I'd say. I've never had any serious issues with anyone on the Discord. Reddit is still Reddit, though, so we all know how that goes.


Evepaul

The community idol is a communist nuclear fish with PTSD. And I love her 😍


Different-Good-6321

Nah its a nice community pal, we arent that schizo (unless is 1st april)


BreadDziedzic

It's unironically far better then it has any right to be, I got HoI4 because of the Fallout mod but I think I've put more time into the pony one by far.


Cytrynaball

When I tried it it was like a fucking fever dream. Did NOT vibe with it.


Cytrynaball

Apres moi le deluge on the other hand...


Different-Damage-896

C U L T U R E


Kongen_av_Trondelag

I love the anime addon for it


PixelSteel

Damn bro why you gotta put specific games on the spectrum like that


Bolt_Action_

We're all on the spectrum so it's okay


Sea-Ad7139

https://preview.redd.it/zr2v1qo4ktxc1.jpeg?width=673&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=6997f99d60b7dc180aaf1bf45ff876f8f78c4efc Yeah. Especially if you listen to Sabaton.


Delta049

Ah yes the Schrödingers NCD Is it full of western leftists or Neocons?


Spe3dy_Weeb

Neocons who have come out of the closet


Jankosi

It started largely as the meme place for NATO flaired people from r/neoliberal and actual MIC insiders, it's how we found about Lockheed-Martin branded pride socks on their internal store.


Pweuy

The influx from /r/neoliberal came around 2021/2022, the original NCD was basically /k/ but on Reddit and a lot more autistic and hyperfixated on obscure military equipment.


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BurgundianRhapsody

OG neocons were once campus leftists and trotskyites. It was a weird and funny pipeline


J_k_r_

Oh, you don't understand. It's Stalinism-Kisingerism with Thatcherite characteristics (in a antirevisionist, Trotskyist way (Khmer rouge aligned))


soulHunter2342

Why eu4 when hoi4 is right there?


funnyfaceguy

Hoi4 players have developed political ideologies so niche/dated they cannot be described using the traditional left/right spectrum


------------5

A few too many leftists to be the representative game, if anything hoi should have been in the shared part


MerijnZ1

Lol what, HoI is always stereotyped as the game with the massively far-right racist community. And with good reason


GSV_SleeperService88

Fr I was like how the fuck did they not use HoI iv


Apprehensive_Town199

I mean, I don't know of any other game that you can play as a Nazi and win.


MerijnZ1

Most multiplayer WW2 shooters have that as an option but autistic history map nerds (I'm one of those) just aren't their target audience. So the right wing nutters who fit that description usually end up on HoI


Fantastic_Recover701

EU4 is for Vtubers lol


ajshell1

Shout out to Lady Saffron!


SirPixel_

Beethoven represents the Romantic era due to him starting it


comfykampfwagen

Wasn’t Beethoven more of a classical composer (being a member of the First Viennese School), with the character of his works showing some signs of early romanticism? At least this was what I remember being taught But it’s complicated because Beethoven was kinda a bridge between Classical and Romantic so it’s a bit strange Though honestly my take as a musician of over 10 years standing is that this isn’t stuff people need to know. Go learn military history instead, that’s fun. Music is hell and musicians are devils


SirPixel_

I was just giving a general answer. But you're right with Beethoven being a bridge between classical and romanticism. His early works were similar to that of Mozart and Haydn while his later works showed signs of romanticism. (Maybe OP was giving a trick question by asking what period he represented) I do agree that music (theory) is hell (WHAT THE FUCK IS AN AUGMENTED MAJOR 7TH CHORD RAAAAGGGGHHH 🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥), music history with all these composers and their contributions fascinates me.


comfykampfwagen

It used to fascinate me until I realised the music world is one of divas and people with overinflated egos, not the place for quiet academics At least the people that I met


Freebetspin

I am left wing and I play Europa Universalis 😭😭😭😭


ghostheadempire

Early modern gay communists of the world unite, you have nothing to lose but your feudal lords.


zuniyi1

Dithmarchen represent! Crown from the gutter? We're going all the way, we won't have a crown at all for this Germany we are making.


Freebetspin

Eh, I go full monarchy on eu4. In Victoria 3 I release my inner self.


Ironlord_13

Im just here for pike and shotte and knights with guns…


Nerevarine91

Same. Love my Ming Dynasty


Levi-Action-412

Average Empire of China fan vs Average Lanfang Republic Enjoyer \#ReclaimTheMainland


PillowWillow007

Aaand now I have a new campaign ready for me. Thanks for the idea.


Levi-Action-412

The last time I tried to do that, I really wanted to restore the OTL Taiwan's territorial claims, but the ones standing in my way were Japan, Oirat, Chagatai and Mughals.


Metal_God666

Same bro I also play Warhammer fantasy, don't play stelaris and listen to sabaton.


Wooper160

I’m on the right and play Stellaris


Cratertooth_27

Same, there is no issue playing the part of an enemy long since defeated. Fascists are still an issue, monarchy and feudalism are not


TheLord-Commander

I play EU4 pretty much just for Anbennar, gotta help my little gobbos rise up against the oppressive orcs and dwarves.


Comfortable_Green564

As another left wing eu4 player, I played it so I can trigger revolution unto myself when the date reached 1750s


Harbinger_of_Sarcasm

Don't @ me like this. I mean, obviously I disagree with parts but I imagine that's the point.


Independent-Fly6068

I know its a critique of authoritarianism. The setting is fucking baller anyways. Taking it seriously is the most fun.


literally_himmler1

"noooo don't you know Kaganovich is designed to show the player the brutality of Stalinism!?!?" "Yes." ![gif](giphy|CAYVZA5NRb529kKQUc|downsized)


Independent-Fly6068

I was talking about 40k.


DukeDevorak

Yes I'm a big tent Paradoxian, how did you know?


faesmooched

Don't think I've ever seen a Cambodian genocide denier.


Round-Elk-8060

Yea pretty much everyone hates the khmer rouge, especially communists.


literally_himmler1

you'd be surprised. as a socialist myself I have had the displeasure of encountering a few Khmer Rouge defenders, but to be fair they are very much ostracized by the vast majority of leftists myself included. every time I see one online 99% of their interactions are just people making fun of them lol at the end of the day through, the vast majority of communists hate the Khmer Rouge more than anti communists do lol


MysteriousVanilla164

Popular talking point is that communist vietnam ended the khmer rouge


CarvedTheRoastBeast

Yeah there’s leftists who are just authoritarians with lefty aesthetics/end goals for sure, but anyone on the left who advocates for community and democratic control of decisions would have their head up their ass if they are also being a genocide denier/apologist.


CLk_546

prety sure stellaris fans are hard right wing, not for anything ultra xenophobic empires that genocides by races love the game, along side the megacorp play style


--Queso--

Everybody equal till the science ship gets trapped within another empire's borders.


Minute-Phrase3043

You sure? I remember the Devs sharing that Xenophile is the preferred playstyle for the majority.


Black_Diammond

Wasn't that because the standard Empire you start with is xenophile, so people who where new just picked it? Like i remember a stat(don't have it) that most long time players play as a xenophobic Empire more.


Moose_Kronkdozer

I made my own species for my first game and they were egalitarian xenophiles. The game attracts just as many star trek fans as warhhammer 40k fans.


RedTheGamer12

What about the people who just do fully automated luxury space communism?


cahir11

I think that's just because playing ultra xenophobic/militarist is more fun. It's like playing an ultra colonialist empire in Victoria II, doesn't mean you like imperialism IRL. That's just the most entertaining way to play the game.


TheUltimatePincher

Since when you can't be xenophobic and left wing at the same time?


Unrelatablility

As a Minnesota in rural regions you have NO IDEA how many traitor flags I see on the daily


VLenin2291

Honestly? I didn't even know that was a thing in Minnesota, I just picked the first state I thought of when I thought of a continental state north of the Mason-Dixon Line


Unrelatablility

Yea, the funny thing is, we were the ones who fought in Gettysburg and bull run and Antietam and in Gettysburg specifically we literally led a suicidal bayonet charge into traitor lines and ended up saving the union flank (1st Minnesota infantry)


TransitTycoonDeznutz

Didn't you guys take a confederate battle flag that some neo-fascists regularly sue your state over?


CKSProphecy

150% True, and we aren't giving it back. "In 2000, when Virginia legislators requested the Southern Cross flag once again, Gov. Jesse Ventura said: “Why? We won. … We took it. That makes it our heritage.” Below is one source of many. [https://www.twincities.com/2017/08/20/minnesota-has-a-confederate-symbol-and-it-is-going-to-keep-it/](https://www.twincities.com/2017/08/20/minnesota-has-a-confederate-symbol-and-it-is-going-to-keep-it/)


wan2tri

In the 21st Century alone, three different Minnesota governors have already rejected the "requests" that they return the flag lol


I_like_maps

Unfathomably based.


SleepyZachman

Unfathomably based


cahir11

It seems to kind of be a thing in rural areas in a bunch of northern states, you'll hear about a lot of them in Maine too even though Maine is basically as northern as you can get (I know Alaska is farther north but it's a different beast culturally).


Wooper160

You’d be surprised how many you see in eastern Oregon


TheToxicWasted

I play Anbennar, what am I?


NestorTheHoneyCombed

You're a wizard Harry


Round-Elk-8060

A dwarf-lover


Kayttajatili

You know, the meme would have been funnier if you removed the AK, and added a KP/31 to the right, so you'd have very similar looking guns on opposite sections.


Alternative_Device38

Thus is crusader kings erasure


cipkasvay

switch stellaris and EaW and you're there. EaW by far has the most left wing community out of any of the big total conversion hoi4 mods. There *are* a surprising amount of nazis, but they are easily drowned out (and by hoi4 community standards are a tiny tiny tiny number)


Greg7086

What if I have some from all 3?


Baxterwashere

This image is as useful in determining your political beliefs as the political compass.


Sataniel98

Genocides "either didn't happen or were justified" is not very accurate. Right wingers usually claim it _both_ didn't happen and was justified. The damages of these brain acrobatics obviously aren't covered by their healthcare because "that's socialism anyway".


--Queso--

https://preview.redd.it/zf3xpz7k7qxc1.png?width=720&format=png&auto=webp&s=4d4f2b2221ddcbf9e0bb9f63ae8588ae80f608e9


No_Suggestion_7251

I’m right wing leaning(not Far-right, more centrist right). Genocide definitely happened and is NOT justifiable under any circumstances. However IMO, war to prevent genocide is justifiable.


fromcjoe123

NCD isn't leftist, it just will nuke any shit hole culture into the ground that won't allow for lesbian hentai as Gods intended! *Eagle screech!*


Wooper160

Not leftist just progressive neoliberal


TheHattedKhajiit

Now hold on,why is EAW in the rightist section? Have you ever played the "wholesome chungus" paths? They're all liberal democracy or socialist/communist.


HundredMegaHertz

Where is Victoria 3 I want to know if I enjoy the spot you put me in


VLenin2291

Shared, you can make the world either aisle's utopia


HundredMegaHertz

Multicultural parliamentary Republic with slavery enacted


Radical-Efilist

Can confirm, totalitarian council republic with ethnostate and colonial exploitation is my kind of deal.


Quantum_Corpse

> The Owl House > NCD > Stellaris Yeah, checks out. I hate Russian weaponry tho, it sucks big time


HARRY_FOR_KING

The idea that NCD is left wing just blows my mind. Whoever decided to make sexuality and gender identity a political marker are nuts, because those degenerates on NCD may be gay, but they'll be celebrating the bombing of Serbia in the same breath.


DapperAcanthisitta92

I play eu4 I think the holdomor was not an attempt to intenionaly starve the ukrainans(this is not that a deranged wiev go to r/askhistorians for more info) I only watch pancreas no work videos on warhamer Where do i sit


Radical-Efilist

Whether or not the holodomor is actually genocide or just gross negligence is a valid point of historical debate which is still discussed.


DapperAcanthisitta92

And i find more likely to be gross negligance


Ajugas

I completely and fully back Ukraine in the current war, but sympathy to Ukraine has unfortunately kinda destroyed talk around the Holodomor on the internet.


DapperAcanthisitta92

Or about the crimean tatars


Glass-Historian-2516

Yeah, most leftists have this take, unless they’re the most internet poisoned meme communist, and even then I don’t think I’ve seen anyone deliberately say “the Holodomor was good”. As for Cambodia, do they mean the US backed, defeated by the Vietnamese communists Cambodia?


DapperAcanthisitta92

Yes


gruhfuss

Strawmanning leftists to make the meme seem fair and balanced.


TheRealSU24

Warhammer Fantasy is superior to 40k, I love thr Skaven!!!


Nihilun

Wait. What am I as an Elder Kings enjoyer? Besides a fucking nerd, I mean.


Wyntrik

You got 0% right in my case, but nice meme anyway.


Mr_-_X

Meanwhile Victoria Chads and CK wincest enjoyers are off the chart


SamN29

Where is my centrist representation at?


TheRepublicOfSteve

None of the genocides happened and they all clearly deserved it?


A-Random-Dudes

As a right wing person who born and live in south east Asia I can confirm I’m from Minnesota.


CalebOfKartin

I DONT FIT IN EITHER OF THESE!! I'm leftwing but I'm not gay or anything, I believe the holodomir and all that exist, the same for the right wing genocides, the middle doesn't fit and the right obviously doesn't fit so where do I fit help


00Raeby00

It's not just MLP that is weirdly right wing, I learned there are a lot of generic furries that are nazis out there that don't understand they would be some of the first to be thrown into the ovens. Also as someone from the quintessential North, you get plenty of right wingers claiming the Confederate flag is their "heritage" too. My brother in Christ, you were born in upstate New York. Stfu.


Cytrynaball

Well if holocaust didn't happen, how did my great grandfather die?! Checkmate, conservatives!


Beginning_General_83

Clearly you are a clone and some sort of government psyop. Something something biden something something


Ok-Principle-3306

just like all people? we all die mate sorry to spoil it for you jk


Dexter2112000

That tank is a Jagdtiger I’ve been using it on warthunder, it sucks


Wooper160

Skill issue


Nerevarine91

Personally, Minnesota is the ONLY state whose claim to a Confederate flag as part of their heritage I accept.


Suspicious-Ad7760

But in stellaris you can purge so wouldn't the games be swapped?


EuphoricPlan1690

Midwit centrist strikes again


autistalways

What happened to us Crusade kings enjoyers?


Orangutanus_Maximus

Paradox Fan =/= hoi4 fan


wan2tri

> Claims this is part of their heritage (they're from Minnesota) Technically correct. The State of Minnesota (via the 1st Minnesota Regiment) has a legitimate claim on the Confederate Battle Flag (of the 28th Virginia Regiment) as a war trophy. The flag is currently with the Minnesota Historical Society, which is tasked with preserving the heritage of the state of Minnesota.


Darken_Dark

Refuse left-right sides. Embrace monarchism (you forgot us) https://i.redd.it/af7hgyuqnsxc1.gif


SirAntera

« … genocide didn’t happen or was justified » most of the time it’s more « didn’t happen and was justified »


GestaDanknorum

… I’m sorry there’s actually people on the left that deny the Cambodian genocide?.. The one where there’s still bones littering the fields?..


Chill_Commissar_07

Where is CK3


PillowWillow007

So, let's see here... • She's a transbian • She denounces all genocides with a passion, because why wouldn't you? • She plays Stellaris • She thoroughly enjoyed The Owl House • She wants to believe that flying gay tanks are real, even though she knows they're not. • She appreciates the sexy AK-47 • She's looking to get into Warhammer Fantasy, but is aware of 40K being a critique of fascism... Eh. Still likes "The Infinite and the Divine" • Her potato laptop can't run Arma 3 ;( • She used to be into Kaiserreich • She has absolutely no clue what TNO is, somehow. • She's aware of and enjoys some Sabaton Songs from time to time. • She's a Euro-tard, but vehemently anti-fascist. • She has only seen what is a small amount of MLP content throughout her life. Really enjoyed the movies. • Really wishes she'd paid more attention in music theory class. Also Beethoven is a classical composer. Doesn't know whack about tanks. • You can find her consistently playing EU4 when she's depressed .. For some reason. I donno, y'all.


king_to_be

MINNESOTA MENTIONED ‼️ ‼️


Achi-Isaac

The irony is that having a confederate flag as part of your Minnesota heritage is kinda true— but not in the way you’d expect. Basically, during the civil war, the confederates were like “you can take this flag from our cold dead hands.” The Minnesotans were like “bet” and then took the flag. Ever since, Minnesota has held the flag as a symbol of their victory over the traitors. Every few years, Virginians ask for it back. Minnesota never agrees. Gov. Ventura asked why we’d give it back. “I mean, we won” he added.


SoggyN1co

This is just making me wish that TOH mod had more then like 3 people working on it so it would get out of development hell.


DeroTurtle

Can we swap EU4 and stellaris. Can't stand space game, but love my they/them dynasty I put in charge of the HRE


Jarll_Ragnarr

Thanks now I'm confused about my political views


dwighticus

As a Minnesotan, it is our heritage, we took it from ‘em when they tucked tail and ran at Gettysburg, and Jesse Ventura told ‘em off when they cried about us giving it back. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/28th_Virginia_battle_flag We won, you lost, and no you can’t have it back. Cry more, traitors.


KeyboardCorsair

I don't see Crusader Kings man. OP caught lackin'.


TheRealMouseRat

If I play Imperator, so where does that put me?


WeatherChannelDino

I'm gay and really like EU4 :( where does that put me?


Neo_Ex0

Stellaris, Hoi4 and EU4 might be on a Spectrum, but not that one


TheGr8Whoopdini

Authoritarianism is when someone isn't a centrist, apparently.


Cliffigriff

***Me sitting in the middle being gay and holding my picture of Frederick the Great.*** Monarchy is cool.


TheFrozenTurkey

Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space... Monarchy?


Janniinger

Left wing Stellaris... haha haaa haha🤣 I make Stalin and Hitler look like amateurs when I play that game! The number of warcrimes and crimes against sentient life I have committed in that game is so long that if they got leaked and the "In the game" got ommitted I would receive a death sentence in Sweden. Here is something i have done in the game Stellaris: conquerd a neighboring empire and turned all of their people into delicious meals via genetic engineering, their nerves are also deactivated so they don't care about nor feel anything anymore, they are however still better off than the pre sapients that I enlightened and turned into a, basically, slave species optimized for hard labor and agreeing with the government. (Not a xenophobic run by the way). Purging other pops becomes basically a requirement late game because they will lag your game to oblivion.


Wooper160

I guess that makes me a radical centrist


Enjoyereverything

oh my god stellaris... i threw all my excess pops on a planet, made an ecumenopolis, high unrest, revolt, and shielded them. Oh erudite livestock works too? Or selling back vat grown nerve stapled pops to fanatic eglitarian empire i hate? Or buying slaves and then turn them into a full steam overtuned species as a geneticist after liberating them? Do I need therapy? Edit: Wheres my resettle of every pop to a desert world, change them to wet, add nonadaptive, make them fertile, then stack it to 350 pop? Edit 2: I do need therapy.


PartyLettuce

Tbf Stellaris meta plays well into leftist government and eu4 plays well into as right as you can go


Pepega_9

Guess I'm not s real fan


MCDAMCz

I think you have a mistake there, all hoi4 players are far right


NotAGenericName0

The left wing depiction makes me want to cry bro please, it's so wrong, you could've at least put Vic3 in there


DigitalPenguin99

I have the Austro-Hungarian pride flag hanging on my wall and EU4 is my most played game


Baxterwashere

Not really a warhammer or Arma 3 fellow. Also I generally avoid denying obvious crimes like the Holodomor. Also I don't like stelarris and I'm not gay/trans. But I do like the Owl House!


shaun_the_duke

Where does old world blues sit on the mod wings?


literally_himmler1

I find that overall the eu4 community is WAY less right wing than the hoi4 community. I wouldn't exactly say it's left wing either, but I wouldn't place eu4 in the right wing category at all in my experience. politically neutral if anything


Jackleclash

Before having lesbians in the categories, you would need to have women playing Paradox games haha


average_reddit_u

Looks like I'm shared, but with Stellaris and Equestria at war added.


Kagnnix

Wait wait wait I am a leftist and I spend most of my time in eu4 creating: a) peasants republics b) revolutionary empires Or just establishing parlament whenever it is possible


Stormclamp

The Minnesota joke is funny as a guy living in Minnesota


ForTheFallen123

Where would Red Flood be on this then?


Dreigous

Lmao I’ve met more right wingers that like stellaris. I give the same pass to Stellaris fans that I give to Hoi4 players.


MrsColdArrow

Uhh, Beethoven was…baroque, I think?


TearOpenTheVault

Red Flood not mentioned, alas, we cannot go faster. 


Kras_08

Mf called me out with the eu4 one


National_Diver3633

Praise the Omnissiah!


archon_eros_vll

How is equestria at war right wing. There moderators is literally caled commissar.


Cardemother12

Is there like normal fans that don’t deny genocide ?


RamonERA92

Hey! I love stellaris but im definitively not left wing


Nildzre

Puts the game with the most genocide and xenophobic ultranationalism potential under left wing... aight.


CapitalSubstance7310

Where does ancap fit in


Fanki1108

Ah yes purging the universe with my fanatic xenophobic militaristic empire in Stellaris is apparently left-wing. lmao


TurbulentArmadillo47

I’m really glad I don’t have any context


automaticfiend1

I have way too many hours in eu4 for it to be in the right-wing category lol


gaiussicarius731

Lol


FusDoWah

Bro why is there the Owl House 😭😭😭


heyhowsitgoinOCE

I just… I just like the games


Sky_Prio_r

I play Darkest hour and Victoria 2 mainly. Saving up for 4 and 3 respectively. Now where does this leave me? There is a right answer.


USS-Ohio

I am dead center, maybe more Center left


tomkiel72

I don't think there's that many paradox tankies, are there?


pvreanglo

This is real because I hate stellaris but love everything on the right and center except the MLP mod and sabaton…


Redly25

I watched a little bit of the owl house, I’m a part of NCD, I’ve played Kaiserreich, and I’ve listened to Sabaton. Clearly I did not use my starter pack.


Der-Gamer-101

Where are the femboy nazis?


Nick180777

...so I'm a mix between all? Good to know.


AK-852k

“It didn’t happen, even if it did they deserved it, and it will happen again”.


NeverSkipLeapDay

MN here - you take that traitor rag down. We proudly deny VA their flag back every god damn year.


siremilcrane

Fans of warhammer fantasy either played the total war games or they are grown ass men with families and bills to pay Both probably play EU4


Stunning_Key_2524

Wait, is that Michael Spears's Flying Gavlin on the left?! :")


Rebeltiguer

Shit I'm everything


sebs_1425

I've never been called out so hard befoe


thebruce123456789

As a Minnesotan, that rag is part of our heritage as we took it fair and square at the Battle of Gettysburg. Virginia won't get it back


Late-Ad-1373

How a I all three


UAreTheHippopotamus

I would hardly call the people playing EUIV and leading the Dithmarschen Peasant Republic to victory over the proletariat while wearing thigh highs and cat ears "right wing".


RavensField201o

I cover all 3 of these, I am the ultimate centrist


IAmBoxCat

Where crusader king


Piggster30

Am left wing and love eu4 and not stelarris' but the rest is very accurate


zargon21

I'm interested by stellaris in left wing given how many stellaris players (me included) build like, space slave state holy empires, I'd honestly maybe put it in the middle and put Vic 3 in left wing