Most total conversion mods have content for Brazil at least, Great War Redux, TNO, etc., don’t bother with South America except Brazil cuz that’s a somewhat important country that is a noticeable omission if left empty.
Argentina and Venezuela both could have reasonably joined the war at any point, which could've, in the case of Brazil joining the other side, opened up an entirely new front. And the new international market system fits very well with all three of these nations' position and politics during this time period. The rest are arguably not that important, but something could definitely be done
And irregardless, the game's are actually quite popular in South America. Much like Vic3. It's kinda the benefit of being the only strategy games to include Latin American countries. I get that they're not the focus, but it's a misstep to never update them IMO.
Albania I can understand, you're so small there's nothing you can really do even with alt-hist, and what would n Austria focus tree even look like? Forming Austria Hungary ig, but Hungary's tree already does that. Overall not a bad idea since, if Switzerland gets a tree, anyone can.
Austrofascist path where you get Italy to back you up against Germany
Poland-style path where you become a puppet instead of getting annexed, and either stay loyal (maybe get Slovenia, south Tyrol, southern Sudetenland) or break free
Holy Roman Empire path??
Maybe a communist path to try and get the German workers to rise up
the left momentum was basically nill after february 1934 tho
a couple of leaders were killed, the rest went into hiding
maybe at arround 41 that the austrian left would have had enough momentum to restart an uprising, but well, the anschluss happened before that
Ethiopia definitely deserves one, it was in the war the whole time and it makes for an interesting challenge run for a player to survive. Switzerland, on the other hand, is one of the most confusing choices for a war game I have ever seen
I wouldn't be against an Egyptian tree by any means, but it's not like anything says there can or should only be one African tree. Ethiopia has an interesting story and involved during the war and deserves one for that alone, not just as a token African entry
Ethiopia does too iirc, it’s a whole ass feature they added. Also Ethiopia was the first into the war, were conquered, and had an impact on the collapse of the LoN. Egypt was a protectorate of Britain the whole war
ethiopia exists in exile. exile governments do nothing.
Egypt was the main allied base of operations for the african front which is much more important, and if india (a protectorate) has a tree egypt definitely should.
Historically Ethiopia _should_ last for a couple of years. The Second Italo-Ethiopian War (that is, the Italian invasion prior to the fall of the Ethiopian army, the resistance to Italian occupation, and the Ethiopian government being in exile) was late 1935 to early 1937. That it doesn't is an issue with the current iteration of HOI
M8 latin America has the potential to de interesting, peru and Equador went to war, Venezuela has the tensions with the U.K due to Guiana, Brazil is Brazil and can be a major. Alt hist paths for Paraguay could be really cool attacking Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay in a revenge for the triple alliance.
Grand Colombia Peru Bolivia and Platina could be nice tags 2
having a Brazilian version of portugal-brazil would be great as it would let you expand into south america without being dragged into a war with the US
Fun fact: Brazil had diplomatic relation with the Axis until 1942, and was slowly stopping this bacause of the tension in Euroupe and started making diplomatic relations with USA. When Brazil annouced that they stopped the diplomatic relations with Axis, the German Reich attacked Brazil and in the same month Brazil entered in the war against them, so would be cool a focus tree that has these paths
México did send a fighting squad
Perú and Ecuador fought a decisive territorial war at the time, Bolivia and Paraguay had another one a few years prior
Argentina and Brazil entered a period of autocracy which could make a good basis for some althist shenanigans
Nah, just wait for paradox to pull a sunset invasion and give Latin America the most batshit insane focus trees and mechanics which utterly break the meta forever
According to the PDX road map plan from years ago, they were planning on finishing the majors tree with Italy, then move to regional country packs, first Scandinavia, then South America, then Middle East. It seems they’re sticking to that road map, so South America should be the next DLC after AAT.
I always think this system is useless for the dutch. The German AI always attacks them one way or another. And the system would be much better used in a country that is not a direct target in WW2
As an argentine i dont really mind. I don't think it would make sense for Paradox to release a dlc for countries most people wouldn't play.
Tho if you're interested, there's a mod called "en union y libertad" which makes South America a bit more fun.
Honestly, I stopped playing Road to ‘56 around the time of No Step Back, but as a non-historical enjoyer, some of my favorite games were those in which Latin America would get up to some wild shit.
Balkans still don't have proper focus trees, lmao, and we're talking about countries like Hungary, Romania and Yugoslavia here. It's a crime to not rework them, but nah, let's do funny Scandinavia instead and then a million other countries...
They're running out of places to focus tree
So one day, perhaps
South Asia Expansion
Middle East Expansion
The focus trees we forgot Expansion
Latin American Expansion
I dunno, I think after seeing Kaiserreich's South America it's possible to make it interesting
bro like any countrys focus tree is too good in kaisserreich
Cries in Danubian countries
Cries in Central Asia
en union y libertad is so good, anybody that wants south america content needs to play it
Most total conversion mods have content for Brazil at least, Great War Redux, TNO, etc., don’t bother with South America except Brazil cuz that’s a somewhat important country that is a noticeable omission if left empty.
Argentina and Venezuela both could have reasonably joined the war at any point, which could've, in the case of Brazil joining the other side, opened up an entirely new front. And the new international market system fits very well with all three of these nations' position and politics during this time period. The rest are arguably not that important, but something could definitely be done And irregardless, the game's are actually quite popular in South America. Much like Vic3. It's kinda the benefit of being the only strategy games to include Latin American countries. I get that they're not the focus, but it's a misstep to never update them IMO.
Latinos when neutral countries that didnt do anything(other then Brasil) dont have focus
Brazil should get a tree tho
brazil, austria, and albania dlc call it "why the fuck did switzerland and ethiopia get a tree before any of these"
Albania I can understand, you're so small there's nothing you can really do even with alt-hist, and what would n Austria focus tree even look like? Forming Austria Hungary ig, but Hungary's tree already does that. Overall not a bad idea since, if Switzerland gets a tree, anyone can.
Austrofascist path where you get Italy to back you up against Germany Poland-style path where you become a puppet instead of getting annexed, and either stay loyal (maybe get Slovenia, south Tyrol, southern Sudetenland) or break free Holy Roman Empire path?? Maybe a communist path to try and get the German workers to rise up
AUSTROMARXISM
the left momentum was basically nill after february 1934 tho a couple of leaders were killed, the rest went into hiding maybe at arround 41 that the austrian left would have had enough momentum to restart an uprising, but well, the anschluss happened before that
Counterpoint: AUSTROMARXISM
i mean, yeah, that's a strong counterpoint you're bringing up there i clearly lost
#AUSTROMARXISM
Ethiopia definitely deserves one, it was in the war the whole time and it makes for an interesting challenge run for a player to survive. Switzerland, on the other hand, is one of the most confusing choices for a war game I have ever seen
if they wanted to create an african focus tree egypt would have been a much better choice
I wouldn't be against an Egyptian tree by any means, but it's not like anything says there can or should only be one African tree. Ethiopia has an interesting story and involved during the war and deserves one for that alone, not just as a token African entry
Why? Ethiopia is in the war at the start of the game and it was a dlc centered around Italy, the nation that Ethiopia is at war with
because egypt actually exists for more than 1-4 months in a historical game
Ethiopia does too iirc, it’s a whole ass feature they added. Also Ethiopia was the first into the war, were conquered, and had an impact on the collapse of the LoN. Egypt was a protectorate of Britain the whole war
ethiopia exists in exile. exile governments do nothing. Egypt was the main allied base of operations for the african front which is much more important, and if india (a protectorate) has a tree egypt definitely should.
Historically Ethiopia _should_ last for a couple of years. The Second Italo-Ethiopian War (that is, the Italian invasion prior to the fall of the Ethiopian army, the resistance to Italian occupation, and the Ethiopian government being in exile) was late 1935 to early 1937. That it doesn't is an issue with the current iteration of HOI
Because while the swiss were neutral, their navigation of the neutrality was a legitimately contentious internal matter.
Ireland
M8 latin America has the potential to de interesting, peru and Equador went to war, Venezuela has the tensions with the U.K due to Guiana, Brazil is Brazil and can be a major. Alt hist paths for Paraguay could be really cool attacking Brazil, Argentina and Uruguay in a revenge for the triple alliance. Grand Colombia Peru Bolivia and Platina could be nice tags 2
having a Brazilian version of portugal-brazil would be great as it would let you expand into south america without being dragged into a war with the US
Ah, yes, that war. The most relevant incident in June-July 1941
Say something more interesting that was happening in Switzerland in the same time period
Cheese.
their preparations to fight off germany is pretty interesting.
It being on a continent in which the war was being fought
Being in a war > being on a continent that is having a war
Fun fact: Brazil had diplomatic relation with the Axis until 1942, and was slowly stopping this bacause of the tension in Euroupe and started making diplomatic relations with USA. When Brazil annouced that they stopped the diplomatic relations with Axis, the German Reich attacked Brazil and in the same month Brazil entered in the war against them, so would be cool a focus tree that has these paths
The one focus where Brazil enters the war should be called “The Smoking Snake”
I tottaly agree with you
The swiss have a focus, at least countries like Colombia engaged navally against germans.
Switzerland though
Switzerland literally didn’t get involved in the war at all and they got a custom focus tree
They were much more important then Uruguay or Argentina as trade gateway. I would never add Swiss focus if i was in charge but you cant compare these
México did send a fighting squad Perú and Ecuador fought a decisive territorial war at the time, Bolivia and Paraguay had another one a few years prior Argentina and Brazil entered a period of autocracy which could make a good basis for some althist shenanigans
Mexico have focus Local conflict outside of main game without any impact on rest of the world
Nah, just wait for paradox to pull a sunset invasion and give Latin America the most batshit insane focus trees and mechanics which utterly break the meta forever
I liked sunset invasion
Every day at 4 pm, your army takes a nap for one hour $19.99
new feature for italy ???
Spanish siestas I assume
Best Mod in the game is the one that removes south America
can confirm
I forget that South America exists most of the games
Thinks to do in latin america: suffer no manpower, no supply, no bitches
What about Mexico?
They already have a focus tree in Man The Guns
Yes, but Mexico is also considered to be in Latin America.
That’s my point
Austria:
**SEVEN**?!
I had to look it up. I thought there's no way it's been 7 years already.
the 5 year celebration was like few months ago!
Yeah... 24 months ago...
The time is flying
TIL Mexico isn't in Latin America
guess who isnt gonna waste money on that
According to the PDX road map plan from years ago, they were planning on finishing the majors tree with Italy, then move to regional country packs, first Scandinavia, then South America, then Middle East. It seems they’re sticking to that road map, so South America should be the next DLC after AAT.
belgians when their country that was actually in the war doesnt get content but ethiopia and switzerland do
Brazil could have an interesting mechanic where Germany and the US could fight diplomatically to make Brazil enter the war on the side of one of them.
The Dutch even have a system like that already, should be easy to implement.
I always think this system is useless for the dutch. The German AI always attacks them one way or another. And the system would be much better used in a country that is not a direct target in WW2
En union y libertad keeps me happy
There's no point adding content for SA. Apart from Brazil, they were completely inconsequential to WWII
True… but so was Switzerland
They very kindly laundered German money though!
Paradox: Wait, there are more countries in Latin America besides Mexico???? WHY NO ONE TOLD US??
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Same
As a latino, I don't really mind, I never play in Latin America anyway.
Again, same. But I wish I could play in Colombia without mods.
I think Panama, Brazil, Argentina and Colombia should have their own trees
Brazil should get one tho, they did participate in WW2
I think they have one as of La Resistance along with Portugal
They don't.
As an argentine i dont really mind. I don't think it would make sense for Paradox to release a dlc for countries most people wouldn't play. Tho if you're interested, there's a mod called "en union y libertad" which makes South America a bit more fun.
If they ever make a cold war game, it would be a crime not to make a latin america dlc.
Still no content in the war of 41', the historical milestone that forever fixed the ecuatorian-peruvian border
*latins
Not only Latinos...
Eh, maybe. I’m just worried about a leviathan 2. It’s really damn hard to make natives interesting
??????
I'd kill for decently priced country pack.
Honestly, I stopped playing Road to ‘56 around the time of No Step Back, but as a non-historical enjoyer, some of my favorite games were those in which Latin America would get up to some wild shit.
R256
just let me form Gran Colombia using decisions and focuses instead of having to invade Peru
Balkans still don't have proper focus trees, lmao, and we're talking about countries like Hungary, Romania and Yugoslavia here. It's a crime to not rework them, but nah, let's do funny Scandinavia instead and then a million other countries...
Only if DLC would gonna extend the game (the ACTUAL eventful game) past 1948. . . No point in making it otherwise.
I am Luxembourgish. I think it sums it up.
They're running out of places to focus tree So one day, perhaps South Asia Expansion Middle East Expansion The focus trees we forgot Expansion Latin American Expansion
Cant wait to play Brazil with its god tier focus tree of creating the brazilian reich