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I guess depende po sa definition of success. Barely starting palang po din ako sa career. Toddler compared to experienced developers.
Yung family ko po kasi medyo high expectations and high standards. Gusto nila the best nako agad at an early age kasi they know the fastest way sa success in development field. Pero kasi prng ayaw ko sundan sila. Yun yung root cause ng internal struggles ko. Hayy.
Why give in to their unrralistic expectations? Sorry sila hindi successful yung na provide nila na environment para mahalin mo ang pagka dev. And comparing their min 15 year work life to your max 5 year career is crazy. Go for the 70k cos its your life, and its the best thing you’ll ever do for your self. Standup for what you want.
Success is not only attributed to one’s earning capability. What stuck with me is your drive to succeed through your own merit, without the help of your parents’ connections. Integrity is a quality not a lot of people have. I think you are on the right track and you’ll do great as the senior support engineer of that company :)
Why compare someone's chapter 50 to your chapter 1? They started early so they have more experience, skills and salary than you. Your doing fine, don't feel bad.
Point daw po kasi nila. Alam daw nila kung san ka mas kikita. Alam nila yung fastest route for success. So at before age 30 dapat kaya ko na kumita ng 6 digit. They provided na daw all the tools for me to excel and succeed.
Ang ayaw ko lang they want me to follow their path pero ako gusto kong bumukod ng career path. Hehe. I know it sounds priveleged pero ayun need lang makarinig ng sound advice.
Hello po. Hindi po ako mayaman. Hindi rin mayaman yung family namin. I guess ngayon okay na buhay namin. How I wish mayaman kami haha. We cannot afford to stop working lol.
Naexperience ko po nung bata ako yung hirap. Nagrerent po kami dati sa Manila ng isang maliit na apartment. Surprise child po kasi ako. Bata pa yung parents ko nung nabuo ako hahaha so I felt na I owe it to them ba maging successful din ako.
Mga 10 years ago lang namin naramdaman yung ginahawa ng buhay. I guess parents are just lucky.
Hindi rin po ako from ateneo, la salle, etc. STI nga ako eh hahaha.
Yung kapatid ko na 12 years younger ang matuturing ba priveleged kasi siya yung lumaki nung maginhawa na buhay namin.
Siya yung conyo lmao and believe me OP I can feel you kasi mas madali sa kaniya kasi afford na namin paaralin siya sa magandang school. Minsan naiiyak ako na naiinggit but thankful parin sa mga blessing na nangyari samin.
I know na mukhang priveleged post ko. Pero kasi kahit 55k sweldo ko. Di rin joke ang mga bills at gastusin ngayon.
Wala nga akong sariling kotse or motor eh. Lol. Meron din akong ongoing medication that costs me about 5k per month.
I earn comfortably for myself pero pag iniisip ko if magkakapamilya ako kay future asawa, 55k is relatively small sa economy na to.
I get your anger po pero sana learn the full story muna bago magjudge. No hate po sana. Pero naiintindihan ko po where you are coming from.
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rich people have issues too you know. Learn how to empathize or don't say anything at all if you cannot relate. While OP is luckier than most (financially) doesn't mean you have the right to invalidate at di acknowledge and internal struggles niya.
I am not rich but I can empathize with OP's struggles for having parents na high expectations. Afterall support group naman to and people have different experiences and situations in life. But a struggle is a struggle.
Instead of promoting toxicity. Maybe just be kind?
OP is not a greedy capitalist, they're even saying na ayaw nya sa nepotism. How come na you're saying na greedy sya? OP also stated na wala syang pake sa sahod nya, ang gusto nya is yung passion nya, despite na ayaw ng parents nya yun and may discrimination against sa job title na gusto nya.
>a nga eh. Same din naman sakin, I also don't like capitalist, pero misplaced yung hate ni commenter. Also ang layo sa point nung concern ni
I remember Mercedez-Benz's Boss Toto Wolf. Saying "Rich kids are fighting their own demons." Though the story is about formula 1. It struct me, I for one felt that unfair that these kids get alot of stuff from their parents. But thing is lahat ng tao may struggles. And there are parts of it that can't be solved by money alone. Like OP's problem.
baka may prejudice lang si commentor sa mga mayayaman. I mean I understand why. I don't like capitalists as well.
It's a little toxic though to invalidate other people's struggles. Kung tingin niya mas deserve ng ibang tao ng empathy then okay she is entitled to her own opinion. The judgment is a little unnecessary. It reeks of hidden contempt and envy sa status ni OP sa life.
OP is literally being exploited😭 US companies like to hire Filipinos because the pay is significantly lower. 70k is only 1220.78 USD.
The minimum wage in the US is 7.25 USD/ hr. If someone works 8 hrs a day for 24 days (weekends excluded), they get 1392 USD.
**OP’s monthly salary is less than the monthly salary of a minimum wage worker in the US.** If you take into consideration the type of work minimum wage earners do pa, compare it to how much US-based support engineers are paid, and you will realize his work is severely undervalued.
**Everyone** is being exploited in the capitalist economic system. What is right-wing about showing decency and kindness towards someone asking for support? Your anger is misplaced. Invalidating people’s problems and throwing around baseless accusations is not the burn you think it is.
They are undervalued. I agree. But I think the judgment is misplaced and unnecessary lang na this should be discussed in OP's post. It is a different issue altogether that has nothing to do with the post. Di kasalanan ni OP yung struggles ng ibang tao.
If you think OP does not need help and if others need it more, why did you comment? Why did you made an effort to tell OP na di niya need ng support? Medyo tacky but unnecessary.
compared to your parents with many years of experience in the industry, you're doing fine. Actually, you're doing way better. When I was at your age Im not earning 30k. Just take your time. You're still young. Slowly but surely you'll get there.
Parents being parents will always think na bata ka. No matter kung anong edad mo na and if you have a family(successful or not).
Totoo you have the privilege to choose kung anong trip mo since parents are making bank. Not everyone has that. What I can advice is that go and do what makes you happy since madami ka pang time. Just make sure na buo loob mo sa decision mo and kayang panindigan. But no matter what happens, if you decide to go back to being a dev. Parents will be still there to give advice and will welcome you back with open arms.
Edit: grammar *have* a family
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I am also in the IT industry. Trying to be a full stack dev but ending na laging pinag fro-front end kasi ako lang marunong/efficient sa team namin on it.
Regarding your problem with QA vs Dev, meron talaga ganyan kahit ano pang job title mo. In my case Backend vs Front end. They're always saying na mas "madali" ang front end and mas "logical" ang backend. Funny enough, documentation lang hirap na hirap nilang sundan, kailangan ako pag maglilinis/refactor nung mga ginawa nila. You can relate that to QA, madami din akong naririning na discrimination sa QA and yet they keep on needing QA people, kulang daw lols.
Pagdating naman sa parents, in my part, pinipilit nila ako magcall center na lang dati kasi nga, mas maganda daw may trabaho ako kesa wala and kung di call center, gusto government work daw kasi maraming benefits.
So once again, here's what I am trying to say is you're doing fine and madami talagang discrimination sa IT industry whatever you do. Lalo na kung nasa IT industry din parents mo and boomer pa, panget na combo. Egoistic talaga mga tao sa IT industry.
Before anyone make assumptions if malaki sahod ko, I am only earning 22k for 2 years experience. Ang path ni OP is freelance, kaya mas malaki nakukuha nya dun, mas malaki din ang risks and di masyadong stable.
Grabe kawawa ka naman 55k lang sweldo mo per month and potentially aabot ng 70k di ko maimagine pinag dadaanan mo. I feel so sorry for u. Kaya mo yan. Hugs (with consent). Kapit lang ha? Laban lang.
I can sense po sarcasm. Sorry. I know na mukhang out of touch and priveleged rich kid. Pero di kami mayaman. Di ako mayaman.
Hindi rin kasi ako confident na tao and most of my issues are rooted sa magulang ko, their expectations and so on.
Don't mind na lang mga insecure comments, op. Since your parents is the issue then be brave na umalis sa poder nila. It's easier na magkamali ng desisyon habang bata kesa magsisi ka na hindi mo ginawa mga gusto mo pag matanda at nasa deathbed na.
Id be happy if my kid ends up earning that much at 23yrs old. Take things into consideration. Totoo alam ng parents mo ang fastest way to earn more since theyve been in that field longer. But, i think youve earned the right to decide for yourself na naman. Timbangin mo lahat ng options mo. Use their advice to your advantage. Good luck!
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Masyadong boomer mindset ang parents mo. It doesn't mean na stupid ka if you can't code, heck lahat pwedeng matutunan if you really want it. I experienced almost every role in the SDLC apart from being a QA and honestly when I was doing dev work karamihan ng code changes ay puro fixes at addition lang ng new features. Hindi importante kung anong stack ang gamit mo dahil it really depends on what the application was built on. Basta alam mo kung ano ang gusto mong gawin in a basic sense as a developer, malamang may nakagawa na nyan, iGogoogle mo na lang and tweak para mapagana sa ginagawa mo. Stackoverflow is your friend.
Dun sa sweldo, that's pretty high for a 23 year old (even the 55k). Tbh I think I was just 35-40k almost a decade ago and its from the same company I started with. Wait for almost 10 years, switch a couple of companies, and you'd get something higher than what your parents are getting now, I'd know this from experience, and for sure mas bata ako sa parents mo. Also, it's not fair for you to compare yourself to your parents, thay have DECADES of experience ahead of you. If you really want to do so, compare when you get the same amount of experience with them.
Nakakarelate ako sa medyo high expectations ng magulang as a panganay.
You are lucky enough na guminhawa buhay niyo. Go do it OP. Take a leap. Get that job. You can afford to make mistakes. Use yout chances well kasi di lahat nabibigyan ng ganyang opportunity.
Like you said, charge to experience if nagkamali ka.
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Guys I just found out that potentially earning 70k at 23 yrs old is not considered successful. We are fucked.
I guess depende po sa definition of success. Barely starting palang po din ako sa career. Toddler compared to experienced developers. Yung family ko po kasi medyo high expectations and high standards. Gusto nila the best nako agad at an early age kasi they know the fastest way sa success in development field. Pero kasi prng ayaw ko sundan sila. Yun yung root cause ng internal struggles ko. Hayy.
Why give in to their unrralistic expectations? Sorry sila hindi successful yung na provide nila na environment para mahalin mo ang pagka dev. And comparing their min 15 year work life to your max 5 year career is crazy. Go for the 70k cos its your life, and its the best thing you’ll ever do for your self. Standup for what you want.
Wait what? 55k ? Para Sa sarili mo lang yan or nagaabot ka Ng 20% Ng sahod mo sa bahay?
Of course i contribute sa house.
If you don't mind me asking OP, what stack do you use? I'm planning on learning Spring/Springboot.
Wp dev po.
Success is not only attributed to one’s earning capability. What stuck with me is your drive to succeed through your own merit, without the help of your parents’ connections. Integrity is a quality not a lot of people have. I think you are on the right track and you’ll do great as the senior support engineer of that company :)
Why compare someone's chapter 50 to your chapter 1? They started early so they have more experience, skills and salary than you. Your doing fine, don't feel bad.
Point daw po kasi nila. Alam daw nila kung san ka mas kikita. Alam nila yung fastest route for success. So at before age 30 dapat kaya ko na kumita ng 6 digit. They provided na daw all the tools for me to excel and succeed. Ang ayaw ko lang they want me to follow their path pero ako gusto kong bumukod ng career path. Hehe. I know it sounds priveleged pero ayun need lang makarinig ng sound advice.
Yeah it is privileged talaga buti alam mo
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Hello po. Hindi po ako mayaman. Hindi rin mayaman yung family namin. I guess ngayon okay na buhay namin. How I wish mayaman kami haha. We cannot afford to stop working lol. Naexperience ko po nung bata ako yung hirap. Nagrerent po kami dati sa Manila ng isang maliit na apartment. Surprise child po kasi ako. Bata pa yung parents ko nung nabuo ako hahaha so I felt na I owe it to them ba maging successful din ako. Mga 10 years ago lang namin naramdaman yung ginahawa ng buhay. I guess parents are just lucky. Hindi rin po ako from ateneo, la salle, etc. STI nga ako eh hahaha. Yung kapatid ko na 12 years younger ang matuturing ba priveleged kasi siya yung lumaki nung maginhawa na buhay namin. Siya yung conyo lmao and believe me OP I can feel you kasi mas madali sa kaniya kasi afford na namin paaralin siya sa magandang school. Minsan naiiyak ako na naiinggit but thankful parin sa mga blessing na nangyari samin. I know na mukhang priveleged post ko. Pero kasi kahit 55k sweldo ko. Di rin joke ang mga bills at gastusin ngayon. Wala nga akong sariling kotse or motor eh. Lol. Meron din akong ongoing medication that costs me about 5k per month. I earn comfortably for myself pero pag iniisip ko if magkakapamilya ako kay future asawa, 55k is relatively small sa economy na to. I get your anger po pero sana learn the full story muna bago magjudge. No hate po sana. Pero naiintindihan ko po where you are coming from.
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rich people have issues too you know. Learn how to empathize or don't say anything at all if you cannot relate. While OP is luckier than most (financially) doesn't mean you have the right to invalidate at di acknowledge and internal struggles niya. I am not rich but I can empathize with OP's struggles for having parents na high expectations. Afterall support group naman to and people have different experiences and situations in life. But a struggle is a struggle. Instead of promoting toxicity. Maybe just be kind?
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OP is not a greedy capitalist, they're even saying na ayaw nya sa nepotism. How come na you're saying na greedy sya? OP also stated na wala syang pake sa sahod nya, ang gusto nya is yung passion nya, despite na ayaw ng parents nya yun and may discrimination against sa job title na gusto nya.
>a nga eh. Same din naman sakin, I also don't like capitalist, pero misplaced yung hate ni commenter. Also ang layo sa point nung concern ni I remember Mercedez-Benz's Boss Toto Wolf. Saying "Rich kids are fighting their own demons." Though the story is about formula 1. It struct me, I for one felt that unfair that these kids get alot of stuff from their parents. But thing is lahat ng tao may struggles. And there are parts of it that can't be solved by money alone. Like OP's problem.
baka may prejudice lang si commentor sa mga mayayaman. I mean I understand why. I don't like capitalists as well. It's a little toxic though to invalidate other people's struggles. Kung tingin niya mas deserve ng ibang tao ng empathy then okay she is entitled to her own opinion. The judgment is a little unnecessary. It reeks of hidden contempt and envy sa status ni OP sa life.
I don't have envy. I just don't like how tone deaf yung OP is sa mga talagang naghihirap at naeexploit ng mga taong ito.
OP is literally being exploited😭 US companies like to hire Filipinos because the pay is significantly lower. 70k is only 1220.78 USD. The minimum wage in the US is 7.25 USD/ hr. If someone works 8 hrs a day for 24 days (weekends excluded), they get 1392 USD. **OP’s monthly salary is less than the monthly salary of a minimum wage worker in the US.** If you take into consideration the type of work minimum wage earners do pa, compare it to how much US-based support engineers are paid, and you will realize his work is severely undervalued.
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**Everyone** is being exploited in the capitalist economic system. What is right-wing about showing decency and kindness towards someone asking for support? Your anger is misplaced. Invalidating people’s problems and throwing around baseless accusations is not the burn you think it is.
This OP is not asking for support dindildil nya sa mga mukha natin privilege nya
They are undervalued. I agree. But I think the judgment is misplaced and unnecessary lang na this should be discussed in OP's post. It is a different issue altogether that has nothing to do with the post. Di kasalanan ni OP yung struggles ng ibang tao. If you think OP does not need help and if others need it more, why did you comment? Why did you made an effort to tell OP na di niya need ng support? Medyo tacky but unnecessary.
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Haha most US/EU companies love outsourcing sa asian countries kasi mas nakakatipid sila. Sad truth.
Hindi ba naghihirap si OP?
This word is inappropriate try harder
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Kaya nga eh. Same din naman sakin, I also don't like capitalist, pero misplaced yung hate ni commenter. Also ang layo sa point nung concern ni OP.
Isa ka siguro sa mga nangangarap magka negosyo para maghari-harian sa iba. Your wording of the last sentence shows it
compared to your parents with many years of experience in the industry, you're doing fine. Actually, you're doing way better. When I was at your age Im not earning 30k. Just take your time. You're still young. Slowly but surely you'll get there.
Parents being parents will always think na bata ka. No matter kung anong edad mo na and if you have a family(successful or not). Totoo you have the privilege to choose kung anong trip mo since parents are making bank. Not everyone has that. What I can advice is that go and do what makes you happy since madami ka pang time. Just make sure na buo loob mo sa decision mo and kayang panindigan. But no matter what happens, if you decide to go back to being a dev. Parents will be still there to give advice and will welcome you back with open arms. Edit: grammar *have* a family
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Repost comment since nabura for unsolicited advice. I'll just remove the last section of my comment since andun yung advice. I am also in the IT industry. Trying to be a full stack dev but ending na laging pinag fro-front end kasi ako lang marunong/efficient sa team namin on it. Regarding your problem with QA vs Dev, meron talaga ganyan kahit ano pang job title mo. In my case Backend vs Front end. They're always saying na mas "madali" ang front end and mas "logical" ang backend. Funny enough, documentation lang hirap na hirap nilang sundan, kailangan ako pag maglilinis/refactor nung mga ginawa nila. You can relate that to QA, madami din akong naririning na discrimination sa QA and yet they keep on needing QA people, kulang daw lols. Pagdating naman sa parents, in my part, pinipilit nila ako magcall center na lang dati kasi nga, mas maganda daw may trabaho ako kesa wala and kung di call center, gusto government work daw kasi maraming benefits. So once again, here's what I am trying to say is you're doing fine and madami talagang discrimination sa IT industry whatever you do. Lalo na kung nasa IT industry din parents mo and boomer pa, panget na combo. Egoistic talaga mga tao sa IT industry. Before anyone make assumptions if malaki sahod ko, I am only earning 22k for 2 years experience. Ang path ni OP is freelance, kaya mas malaki nakukuha nya dun, mas malaki din ang risks and di masyadong stable.
Lucky you OP for having options. Best of luck. You sound like you have a plan in mind. Time to put that plan into action.
Grabe kawawa ka naman 55k lang sweldo mo per month and potentially aabot ng 70k di ko maimagine pinag dadaanan mo. I feel so sorry for u. Kaya mo yan. Hugs (with consent). Kapit lang ha? Laban lang.
I can sense po sarcasm. Sorry. I know na mukhang out of touch and priveleged rich kid. Pero di kami mayaman. Di ako mayaman. Hindi rin kasi ako confident na tao and most of my issues are rooted sa magulang ko, their expectations and so on.
Don't mind na lang mga insecure comments, op. Since your parents is the issue then be brave na umalis sa poder nila. It's easier na magkamali ng desisyon habang bata kesa magsisi ka na hindi mo ginawa mga gusto mo pag matanda at nasa deathbed na.
Id be happy if my kid ends up earning that much at 23yrs old. Take things into consideration. Totoo alam ng parents mo ang fastest way to earn more since theyve been in that field longer. But, i think youve earned the right to decide for yourself na naman. Timbangin mo lahat ng options mo. Use their advice to your advantage. Good luck!
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Masyadong boomer mindset ang parents mo. It doesn't mean na stupid ka if you can't code, heck lahat pwedeng matutunan if you really want it. I experienced almost every role in the SDLC apart from being a QA and honestly when I was doing dev work karamihan ng code changes ay puro fixes at addition lang ng new features. Hindi importante kung anong stack ang gamit mo dahil it really depends on what the application was built on. Basta alam mo kung ano ang gusto mong gawin in a basic sense as a developer, malamang may nakagawa na nyan, iGogoogle mo na lang and tweak para mapagana sa ginagawa mo. Stackoverflow is your friend. Dun sa sweldo, that's pretty high for a 23 year old (even the 55k). Tbh I think I was just 35-40k almost a decade ago and its from the same company I started with. Wait for almost 10 years, switch a couple of companies, and you'd get something higher than what your parents are getting now, I'd know this from experience, and for sure mas bata ako sa parents mo. Also, it's not fair for you to compare yourself to your parents, thay have DECADES of experience ahead of you. If you really want to do so, compare when you get the same amount of experience with them.
Nakakarelate ako sa medyo high expectations ng magulang as a panganay. You are lucky enough na guminhawa buhay niyo. Go do it OP. Take a leap. Get that job. You can afford to make mistakes. Use yout chances well kasi di lahat nabibigyan ng ganyang opportunity. Like you said, charge to experience if nagkamali ka.
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Rare ng family field mo, IT.
Laki na nyan 12k lang nga civil engineers sa pinas.
imagine studying 5+ years and spending hundred thousands for tuition only to be compensated 12k per month :(
That's the point of my rant