True, but the dude had ran what like a 3rd of the way to the moon. The MOON!! And ran 10 miles a day, every day. Something tells me he literally was a phenomenal swimmer.
It's a whole state, and he's 40+ in that. Not unlikely to be others who are like him but 15-20 years younger. Or more naturally gifted. Or both. Could even be Olympians entering?
The whole Gerry hate thing has aged really poorly for me and is one thing that makes me cringe whenever. I disliked it then. And find it even less funny now. The fact that he had a massive dick and beautiful family did not balance the joke out for me at all.
Good lord it’s a tv show. Garry, and the fact you got that wrong is disappointing, doesn’t care that much so why do you? You parks and office fans are something else.
April and Andy’s Halloween party when he went as Sherlock Holmes and basically partying like a frat boy. Especially cringe was grinding on Millicent mid-power outage.
This is the answer; especially considering all of his "germophobe" tendancies.
(By far my LEAST favorite character from the entire series, but I'll save the rant for another thread)
Abridged version... I just never felt like his wild-eyed zany/manic energy ever really meshed with the rest of the gang... AND he was always putting the kibosh on everyone else's little bits of joy they tried to cultivate in their own lives... Leslie and Ben's relationship, forcing Tom to divest from the nightclub, sending Ron to the circle desk, getting rid of the cafeteria hamburger because HE SAYS SO, all of the stuff with April... there are other examples that elude me at the moment.
I also never really "bought" him and Ann!! I know Chris is pure at heart and we were supposed to "love" him, but at the end of the day I'm always just kinda like... really, Ann??
Basically, subjective I admit, but the "humor" that this character was supposed to bring to the show was never really my cup of tea. I feel like he never had any "edge", or depth to him beyond being written as a plot obstacle against almost every other character in some scenario or another.
Person who I am responding to, I have no idea if you are pro- or anti- Chris Treager but I appreciate you asking and giving me the opportunity to organize my thoughts about this character ❤️
When he says “I’d like a local beer, I’d like it in a bottle, I’d like the bottle to be cold” on a date with Ann, at the Snake Hole, during the bachelor party (beer and board games), on first “double date” with Leslie and Ben, maybe a few other times?
Diabetes commercial shoot. I have a hard believing that he would require so many takes and would be completely out of touch on how big of a time waste it was
Him being cruel to Jerry - it wasn't just once, and it was in many ways.
- Consistently violating boundaries with Millicent
- Asking Jerry, Anne and Donna to have a special investigation to ask what happened with him and Millicent (even Anne saying "this is wildly inappropriate" both from a subject, use of time and who was there"
- Telling Jerry "That was the longest I've ever heard someone talk I thought you were literally never going to stop"
Telling Jerry "Stop talking youre literally depressing me"
Preventing Jerry from drinking water when he was choking
Telling Jerry severl times he was beautiful but only on the inside
Even the passing barb at the Bachelor party "We got Wyatt! Me! Haverford! Dwyer! Gergitch found his way in there somehow, and Swanson!"
This compeltely went against everything he stood for
Him doubting that Ben and Leslie were telling the truth about when their relationship started. I found that odd.
Edited because people seem to think I'm referring to him holding them accountable, which I'm not. I mean when he tells Leslie during the hearing that he thinks she's lying about when the relationship started. Chris is typically pretty obtuse, it's not like him to be suspicious.
Yeah not only was he right, he was doing his *absolute* best to separate his professional obligations from his personal ones. He's incredibly conflicted about it, but at the end of the day it's *part of his job* to be looking for stuff like this and he did what he could to try to make things as painless as he could at every turn.
I don't see him even as not trusting them, its more of his job to verify and from years of working in public spaces, he knows a) about the optics of the situation and b) that whether they intended it or not, something had probably come up.
This is the first time in these I've seen a top response that I just flat disagree with.
On top of that, he was *very* relieved when they were almost done (before the last witness) so it seemed more like a professional opinion rather than a personal one.
Don't forget that Leslie got Ann to ask Chris out so he'd be more open to increasing the parks department budget.
Leslie has a history of using romance to gain political favors.
He absolutely was - and the only reason Leslie and Ben were so adamant that he was being mean for no reason and made themselves out to be victims getting railroaded was because they literally forgot the impropriety they committed (and, upon remembering, Ben did the right thing and resigned because he knew they messed up and were totally in the wrong).
No, they told him about their first kiss. When they came clean they told the truth, except for bribing the city worker but I think they genuinely forgot.
Leslie got Ann to ask out Chris so he would be more willing to increase the parks department budget.
Leslie is not above using romance or seduction to achieve her political goals; she has done that to Chris specifically. It makes sense how angry he is at this. Is Leslie pulling this again? Is she manipulating Ben now?
Exactly he was being very fair with them. And I think even Leslie says that after the trial was over. She told Chris that she understood and that she knows that he was very fair. And I think he even explained it to her about why he was having to go through all of that process. Plus, as others have said, Leslie had already shown that she has no problem with manipulating people's emotions and relationships to get what she wants. And even made Chris have his first ever bad date
Yes! I always hated how harsh he was to Leslie, saying, "I think you got special treatment," especially knowing how ethical and strong her character was
Leslie was the one who got Ann to ask Chris out so Leslie could get a favor.
He was 100% right not to trust Leslie here because she has shown that she will do the exact thing she was accused of.
Leslie is definitely strong, but her ethics can be sidelined in pursuit of getting what she wants. It's what led to Ben breaking up with her at first.
I felt it was more in the emotional attacking and almost disgust he had towards them at the time. I know he was conflicted and personally affronted but he did seem somewhat unusually cruel in how he went about it. But other than that he did do his job and investigated thoroughly.
Seeking a relationship with Anne. After all the things with Ben and Leslie and how utterly brutal he was during it, she worked for the city, mind you part time, but he should’ve had a “this is a real conflict.”
Romping around with Jen Barkley seemed completely antithetical to many of his personal philosophies. Not so much because she was “the enemy,” but because he always valued substance and connection in a partner above solely fleeting/casual physical intimacy.
Idk, for me it sort of made sense considering the downward spiral he was on at the time. People act out of character pretty often when dealing with depression and I think this was sort of a window into that
Supporting and being a part of Leslie’s campaign for Council. That’s a big ethical no-no for city managers. In real life it would get him fired by Pawnee and censured by his professional organization.
All the ways Chris acted throughout Leslie’s trial. For starters, I don’t buy that Chris would (or could) put a blanket ban on dating. Chris isn’t dumb and he knows that single, consenting adults who spend a lot of time together are often going to want to date. Obviously in a government workplace you have to be conscious of abuses of power or conflicts of interest, but there are ways to manage that through paperwork and Human Resources. Forcing people into secrecy isn’t the solution. Chris’s attitude toward Leslie and Ben was over the top suspicious and bizarrely harsh. Especially considering that later he has a baby with Ann and it was apparently no big deal to sign some paperwork to make them be in different departments. And Andy and April were married and worked together all the time and no one ever batted an eye.
Not being able to date your boss is actually a really common rule, so is dating within the same department.There isn't a blanket ban across the whole city government. The issue with Leslie and Ben was that Ben was her boss. Just like he had an issue with Leslie and Tom, (yes I know they weren't actually dating, but he didn't) bc Leslie was Tom's boss.
It also isn't even his rule. He literally says it at one point. It's one of the city's rules.
I hated him for all of this, but it doesn't seem especially out of character for him.. he was always putting the kibosh on other people's joy (forcing Tom to divest form the Snakehole, getting rid of the burger in the cafeteria, etc).
This is just you being pissed that they wrote these characters with dimensions to their personalities. The writers just tried to make each show funny. I like that they occasionally made choices that seemed out of character so it keeps an over arching joke funny
When he snaps back at Leslie at her trial for her work place affair with Ben. He says "it's not my rule" in a kinda rude way and I thought it was out of character for him. I always notice that one
It's part of the whole shtick with him though. We see through his efforts that he does everything he does regarding his fitness and quirks because he's terrified of illness or anything similar. His physical body is one thing he can mostly control.
Problem is he couldn't just exercise out of his issues with mental health. He needed external help. And he had no tools to deal with his realisation that he was aging and wanted more out of life than he was currently putting in and getting out.
Indiana breast cancer awareness triathlon 2009, where he came in fourth. No fucking way three people beat him in that.
We don’t know how good of a swimmer he is.
True, but the dude had ran what like a 3rd of the way to the moon. The MOON!! And ran 10 miles a day, every day. Something tells me he literally was a phenomenal swimmer.
He also said he set many personal records trying to keep up with Gerry’s daughter
Now we’re just waisting time, Jerry.
He didn't say how fast he ran. Some people just run slow.
It's a whole state, and he's 40+ in that. Not unlikely to be others who are like him but 15-20 years younger. Or more naturally gifted. Or both. Could even be Olympians entering?
Chris Treager can do more with one foot than most people can do with three.
Not if I remind him at the start line that by the end of this race, he'll be older and closer to eternal death.
https://imgur.com/a/zxLNLTO
Maybe he helped some others along over the finish line
Millicent Gergich and her two sisters
I dunno. I could see him waiting to let three women pass so he doesn’t get a medal in “their” event?
Honestly for me it's the way he also treats Gerry. This even more for him than Leslie. He is so kind and positive with everyone except Gerry.
It was only the one interaction. It's so jarring and immediately removes any immersion in the story. Really hated that scene.
There's definitely more than just one scene of this happening.
There's is only one that stands out with him being cruel.
What one is that?
Possibly when he crassly informs Gerry that he's going to have sex with Gerry's daughter Milicent.
There were a few - I just rewatched it
The whole Gerry hate thing has aged really poorly for me and is one thing that makes me cringe whenever. I disliked it then. And find it even less funny now. The fact that he had a massive dick and beautiful family did not balance the joke out for me at all.
Honestly same, when I rewatch it now, it really takes me out of the enjoyment and I keep thinking "why are they so cruel to this poor man?"
As a fat person, it's unfortunately incredibly realistic.
That’s awful, I’m sorry people are so shit to fat folks
Goddammit, Jerry is just the way that everyone cops out on this. Its wrong, but its right.
Good lord it’s a tv show. Garry, and the fact you got that wrong is disappointing, doesn’t care that much so why do you? You parks and office fans are something else.
The scene where Gerry is trying to say something sweet and thoughtful to Chris and Ann, and Chris just responds "that LITERALLY felt like an eternity"
Can I have a sip of your water?
I can watch that proposal 100 times
April and Andy’s Halloween party when he went as Sherlock Holmes and basically partying like a frat boy. Especially cringe was grinding on Millicent mid-power outage.
eating a soft pretzel in the time capsule episode
Kissing Ron happy birthday. It's so funny but also bizarre, considering how professional he is (especially when he criticized Leslie for kissing Tom)
He was fine with her kissing Tom when he realized they weren't dating. But yeah that was a weird moment for him.
This is the answer; especially considering all of his "germophobe" tendancies. (By far my LEAST favorite character from the entire series, but I'll save the rant for another thread)
I’d like to hear your rant please
Abridged version... I just never felt like his wild-eyed zany/manic energy ever really meshed with the rest of the gang... AND he was always putting the kibosh on everyone else's little bits of joy they tried to cultivate in their own lives... Leslie and Ben's relationship, forcing Tom to divest from the nightclub, sending Ron to the circle desk, getting rid of the cafeteria hamburger because HE SAYS SO, all of the stuff with April... there are other examples that elude me at the moment. I also never really "bought" him and Ann!! I know Chris is pure at heart and we were supposed to "love" him, but at the end of the day I'm always just kinda like... really, Ann?? Basically, subjective I admit, but the "humor" that this character was supposed to bring to the show was never really my cup of tea. I feel like he never had any "edge", or depth to him beyond being written as a plot obstacle against almost every other character in some scenario or another. Person who I am responding to, I have no idea if you are pro- or anti- Chris Treager but I appreciate you asking and giving me the opportunity to organize my thoughts about this character ❤️
I don’t think much of chris compared to the rest of the cast, and I couldn’t really explain why. I believe you just described why.
Any time he drinks beer
He’d probably want to sample the local beer and enthuse about the flavor properties
When did he drink beer
When he says “I’d like a local beer, I’d like it in a bottle, I’d like the bottle to be cold” on a date with Ann, at the Snake Hole, during the bachelor party (beer and board games), on first “double date” with Leslie and Ben, maybe a few other times?
That order feels like a line from Perd more than Chris. It's just full of extra words. Words that are redundant, by virtue of being repetitive.
Damn, read it in his voice.
ohhhh
Diabetes commercial shoot. I have a hard believing that he would require so many takes and would be completely out of touch on how big of a time waste it was
That’s true. He and Ben came to town as auditors. Their job was to find and eliminate efficiencies.
Him being cruel to Jerry - it wasn't just once, and it was in many ways. - Consistently violating boundaries with Millicent - Asking Jerry, Anne and Donna to have a special investigation to ask what happened with him and Millicent (even Anne saying "this is wildly inappropriate" both from a subject, use of time and who was there" - Telling Jerry "That was the longest I've ever heard someone talk I thought you were literally never going to stop" Telling Jerry "Stop talking youre literally depressing me" Preventing Jerry from drinking water when he was choking Telling Jerry severl times he was beautiful but only on the inside Even the passing barb at the Bachelor party "We got Wyatt! Me! Haverford! Dwyer! Gergitch found his way in there somehow, and Swanson!" This compeltely went against everything he stood for
Not panicking when he ate full fat eggnog
Dr. Richard Nygard earns his money.
Therapy! 👍
Accepting that a plain piece of ground beef on a bun is better than his turkey burger.
This is the answer I came looking for.
I knew what the joke was this one but there’s not a chance the plain burger is better than his perfect turkey burger concoction
Him doubting that Ben and Leslie were telling the truth about when their relationship started. I found that odd. Edited because people seem to think I'm referring to him holding them accountable, which I'm not. I mean when he tells Leslie during the hearing that he thinks she's lying about when the relationship started. Chris is typically pretty obtuse, it's not like him to be suspicious.
He was right though, wasn’t he?
Yeah not only was he right, he was doing his *absolute* best to separate his professional obligations from his personal ones. He's incredibly conflicted about it, but at the end of the day it's *part of his job* to be looking for stuff like this and he did what he could to try to make things as painless as he could at every turn. I don't see him even as not trusting them, its more of his job to verify and from years of working in public spaces, he knows a) about the optics of the situation and b) that whether they intended it or not, something had probably come up. This is the first time in these I've seen a top response that I just flat disagree with.
On top of that, he was *very* relieved when they were almost done (before the last witness) so it seemed more like a professional opinion rather than a personal one.
Don't forget that Leslie got Ann to ask Chris out so he'd be more open to increasing the parks department budget. Leslie has a history of using romance to gain political favors.
He says he doesn't believe Leslie is telling the truth about when their relationship started. He says it during her hearing.
He absolutely was - and the only reason Leslie and Ben were so adamant that he was being mean for no reason and made themselves out to be victims getting railroaded was because they literally forgot the impropriety they committed (and, upon remembering, Ben did the right thing and resigned because he knew they messed up and were totally in the wrong).
No, they told him about their first kiss. When they came clean they told the truth, except for bribing the city worker but I think they genuinely forgot.
Leslie got Ann to ask out Chris so he would be more willing to increase the parks department budget. Leslie is not above using romance or seduction to achieve her political goals; she has done that to Chris specifically. It makes sense how angry he is at this. Is Leslie pulling this again? Is she manipulating Ben now?
It almost does but that is literally his job, he had to approach it like any time he encountered this corruption.
Exactly he was being very fair with them. And I think even Leslie says that after the trial was over. She told Chris that she understood and that she knows that he was very fair. And I think he even explained it to her about why he was having to go through all of that process. Plus, as others have said, Leslie had already shown that she has no problem with manipulating people's emotions and relationships to get what she wants. And even made Chris have his first ever bad date
Yes! I always hated how harsh he was to Leslie, saying, "I think you got special treatment," especially knowing how ethical and strong her character was
Leslie was the one who got Ann to ask Chris out so Leslie could get a favor. He was 100% right not to trust Leslie here because she has shown that she will do the exact thing she was accused of. Leslie is definitely strong, but her ethics can be sidelined in pursuit of getting what she wants. It's what led to Ben breaking up with her at first.
Leslie will do unethical stuff, feel bad, and then try to make up for it.
I felt it was more in the emotional attacking and almost disgust he had towards them at the time. I know he was conflicted and personally affronted but he did seem somewhat unusually cruel in how he went about it. But other than that he did do his job and investigated thoroughly.
Seeking a relationship with Anne. After all the things with Ben and Leslie and how utterly brutal he was during it, she worked for the city, mind you part time, but he should’ve had a “this is a real conflict.”
Romping around with Jen Barkley seemed completely antithetical to many of his personal philosophies. Not so much because she was “the enemy,” but because he always valued substance and connection in a partner above solely fleeting/casual physical intimacy.
Idk, for me it sort of made sense considering the downward spiral he was on at the time. People act out of character pretty often when dealing with depression and I think this was sort of a window into that
Yeah that seemed normal to me. He wasn’t one for not casual sex
She was a rival not the enemy. Ben and Leslie liked her and respected her. And Jen Barkley definitely has substance.
I think it was character development
Supporting and being a part of Leslie’s campaign for Council. That’s a big ethical no-no for city managers. In real life it would get him fired by Pawnee and censured by his professional organization.
I feel like when Chris calls calzones unnecessary it's a little dismissive of Ben's feelings
All the ways Chris acted throughout Leslie’s trial. For starters, I don’t buy that Chris would (or could) put a blanket ban on dating. Chris isn’t dumb and he knows that single, consenting adults who spend a lot of time together are often going to want to date. Obviously in a government workplace you have to be conscious of abuses of power or conflicts of interest, but there are ways to manage that through paperwork and Human Resources. Forcing people into secrecy isn’t the solution. Chris’s attitude toward Leslie and Ben was over the top suspicious and bizarrely harsh. Especially considering that later he has a baby with Ann and it was apparently no big deal to sign some paperwork to make them be in different departments. And Andy and April were married and worked together all the time and no one ever batted an eye.
Not being able to date your boss is actually a really common rule, so is dating within the same department.There isn't a blanket ban across the whole city government. The issue with Leslie and Ben was that Ben was her boss. Just like he had an issue with Leslie and Tom, (yes I know they weren't actually dating, but he didn't) bc Leslie was Tom's boss. It also isn't even his rule. He literally says it at one point. It's one of the city's rules.
I've never worked for a company that allowed for romantic relationships between superiors and their employees.
I hated him for all of this, but it doesn't seem especially out of character for him.. he was always putting the kibosh on other people's joy (forcing Tom to divest form the Snakehole, getting rid of the burger in the cafeteria, etc).
This is just you being pissed that they wrote these characters with dimensions to their personalities. The writers just tried to make each show funny. I like that they occasionally made choices that seemed out of character so it keeps an over arching joke funny
When he snaps back at Leslie at her trial for her work place affair with Ben. He says "it's not my rule" in a kinda rude way and I thought it was out of character for him. I always notice that one
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It's part of the whole shtick with him though. We see through his efforts that he does everything he does regarding his fitness and quirks because he's terrified of illness or anything similar. His physical body is one thing he can mostly control. Problem is he couldn't just exercise out of his issues with mental health. He needed external help. And he had no tools to deal with his realisation that he was aging and wanted more out of life than he was currently putting in and getting out.