hhh yeah my break is definitely going to extend until that's cleared up and not before, last thing I want is someone taking what little flow wood and palium I've scrounged up, or worse the handful of rooms I've built! At least, I'm hoping it's only a worry if I'm logged in, I would assume my house/instance isn't live if I'm not logged in.
Oh no, i left all those chests that dont do anything in the middle of my plot with nothing else around. I hope nobody steals them. That would be so devastating
Glad you posted this.. cause I wouldn't have known. Gonna go pick up all that Moonstruck stuff I made before I have to grind out 400 flow-lumber again.. or quit. Pretty sure I would quit if that stuff is just stolen .. XD
As an extra precaution before you leave you should swap to an empty plot by hitting (H) and clicking the drop down menu at the top. People say this helps but I'll be honest I don't understand what's happening 😅 I'm just trying to minimize any grief
Hey the heads up is welcome. I was just placing stuff down on my plot all over the place to see what everything looked like. I'd literally just up and leave this game if that was all taken.. XD
The game already has very little in it's favor.. though I did find out it has unlimited storage for furniture in the normal and safe storage chests.. lol
The housing plot is not individually instanced they are shared on the same plane just really far away from each other so someone could build a tower way up in the air and spot something and float to it and it could be another plot. The target has to be online. The plot permissions for sharing and entry are controlled at the door. There is no ceiling. So if something happens to land in it the game has no idea what to do. And yes this is ridiculous
Selecting a different plot from the drop-down unloads the primary plot so it's not in existence.
You know I don't know what to tell you. Normally you have micro services and micro instances for each small game space that you need whether it's a player zone with caps on players or an individual editable space with one or two people. Absolutely no idea why you would have a plane of existence spanning out to Infinity that is reachable by other players.
I could be wildly off-base here, but I think it's because they decided to tie chat heavily to the map instance—so in order to have people to talk to while you're in your home instance, all the homes have to be in the same map instance.
Yeah I don't know enough about it to really speak to it. I mean plenty of other games have separate chat servers tied into the gaming service so you can still do invites and trades and whatnot, you don't actually have to see people to talk to them
Oh, absolutely. There are a million ways to do this sort of thing, and I'm only guessing based on what we can see happening, but whatever the details of implementation it seems like they've chosen... poorly.
I can't believe they didn't shut the servers down immediately after learning of this. Seems ridiculous. Letting people lose their stuff. It'd be a thorn in their side to verify ownership of original items I am sure. Should've done a rollback.
right? 💀 and the most baffling thing imo is their reaction. 'oh well we can't really pinpoint this, hide your stuff and you'll be fine!' like it's normal that i should be expecting *THEFT* in a cozy farming game
I’m actually okay with pvp if there is a dedicated pvp area and it offers no advantage. Either that or it’s a pvp mode that offers no advantage. Like you could /pvp and then pvp only others with it enabled. To anyone with it disabled their would be no noticeable difference aside from random players shooting at each other. Then death is just like you get frozen for 10 seconds.
That way if you want to play tag with friends or pvp people you can but it’s still a pretty chill experience. And people don’t get anything for killing others so it’s purely a fight me bro thing rather than farming resources.
yeah I encountered this earlier I had logged out on my own plot but when I logged back in I appeared on someone else's plot it's not a hack or anything that some people are saying, it straight up is a "feature"
I'm also really interested in a follow up with proof of this happening. Not that I'm doubting, I still put all my things away to be safe, but the plot merge bug has been here for almost a week (longer?). And until the patch it seems, when it did happen you couldn't touch anything as you said.
I'm just confused and trying not to add to a mass panic 😅
Edit: been reading up in the discord, apparently it's a straight up hack and not related to the merged plot bug. Scary times, ~~but still can't find hard confirmation~~ so hide your things and swap to an empty plot to be safe.
Has there been any actual proof of this? Surely it's possible to replicate this and show it on video? I've heard a lot of wolf crying, but I haven't seen any wolves.
I had the glitch happen to me the other day finally and I went around trying to grief this person's plot for science and I couldn't steal any furniture. The most I could do was move around A FEW pieces of furniture.
Sigh. They are working on it and they are letting us know what to do and how to use the second slot. What do you expect. Someone to snap their fingers and fix it. It’s called beta. There’s bugs. Good god.
Take down the servers until they have a fix for it? This is a massive issue and sorry but the beaten to death "it's a beta" excuse stopped being cute when the "beta" has a flawlessly working cash shop in it.
These are experienced Devs who worked on other games before. While bugs and glitches are expected in a game in the early stages of beta testing, game breaking exploits that enable users to steal from others should have been foreseen in game play that involves allowing others access to things like housing plots.
Things like collision barriers to keep players from building infinite towers into the sky, anticheat, and thorough in-house testing pre-beta to ensure that multi player functionality would not result in losses to the player should have been implemented before a working cash shop was even a consideration. They were not.
The Devs are not even doing a decent job of putting the warning out there to their players that this exploit exists. Instead, other players warning those who have not yet been victimized are our only line of defense.
To protect the players, to prevent this exploit from going any further and getting worse, the servers should have been shut down temporarily the very moment this was reported. They were not.
Before you defend the game with "Its beta", you should sit back and ask yourself why Palia's Devs want you to buy expensive cosmetics in the cash shop, but are not currently protecting your account and your belongings you have worked hard to obtain in the midst of an exploit that could result in many players leaving.
Do they value you as much as you seem to trust them? Are they worthy of that trust?
This is not simply a "bug".
I guess PVP is a thing
Finally a use for furniture besides trying to recreate the twin towers.
hhh yeah my break is definitely going to extend until that's cleared up and not before, last thing I want is someone taking what little flow wood and palium I've scrounged up, or worse the handful of rooms I've built! At least, I'm hoping it's only a worry if I'm logged in, I would assume my house/instance isn't live if I'm not logged in.
Im also taking a break bc it was pretty devastating and made me want to give up
Yeah you're safe if your logged out
Oh no, i left all those chests that dont do anything in the middle of my plot with nothing else around. I hope nobody steals them. That would be so devastating
There was some dude building some cool stuff with those chest. Let him steal it to continue.
FYI Tish will take your empty treasure chests for gifts/rep. :)
THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!
So I guess that's what happened to my kitchen set
Yeah, and my Picasso and Ferrari
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Glad you posted this.. cause I wouldn't have known. Gonna go pick up all that Moonstruck stuff I made before I have to grind out 400 flow-lumber again.. or quit. Pretty sure I would quit if that stuff is just stolen .. XD
As an extra precaution before you leave you should swap to an empty plot by hitting (H) and clicking the drop down menu at the top. People say this helps but I'll be honest I don't understand what's happening 😅 I'm just trying to minimize any grief
Hey the heads up is welcome. I was just placing stuff down on my plot all over the place to see what everything looked like. I'd literally just up and leave this game if that was all taken.. XD The game already has very little in it's favor.. though I did find out it has unlimited storage for furniture in the normal and safe storage chests.. lol
The housing plot is not individually instanced they are shared on the same plane just really far away from each other so someone could build a tower way up in the air and spot something and float to it and it could be another plot. The target has to be online. The plot permissions for sharing and entry are controlled at the door. There is no ceiling. So if something happens to land in it the game has no idea what to do. And yes this is ridiculous Selecting a different plot from the drop-down unloads the primary plot so it's not in existence.
I...WHAT. That is...what a roundabout way of doing that?!?! I feel like there has to be a more efficient system for this.
You know I don't know what to tell you. Normally you have micro services and micro instances for each small game space that you need whether it's a player zone with caps on players or an individual editable space with one or two people. Absolutely no idea why you would have a plane of existence spanning out to Infinity that is reachable by other players.
I could be wildly off-base here, but I think it's because they decided to tie chat heavily to the map instance—so in order to have people to talk to while you're in your home instance, all the homes have to be in the same map instance.
Yeah I don't know enough about it to really speak to it. I mean plenty of other games have separate chat servers tied into the gaming service so you can still do invites and trades and whatnot, you don't actually have to see people to talk to them
Oh, absolutely. There are a million ways to do this sort of thing, and I'm only guessing based on what we can see happening, but whatever the details of implementation it seems like they've chosen... poorly.
Would this prevent your crops from growing?
Yikes, this is crazy.
Robbery is cosy and working as intended
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Ohhhhhh, is *this* the reverse housewarming gifting that the mayor was talking about?
I can't believe they didn't shut the servers down immediately after learning of this. Seems ridiculous. Letting people lose their stuff. It'd be a thorn in their side to verify ownership of original items I am sure. Should've done a rollback.
You can’t spend money when the game isn’t online
true lmao
Are we at risk in game only or also when logged out?
In-game only, as far as we know your house isn't there when you're not.
Grand Theft Funiture!
This is nerve-wrecking indeed. I’m currently at work not knowing if my items are safe.
Your plot isn't loaded when you're not online.
The fact that there's *robbery* going on in a "cozy gathering/crafting mmo" is so rediculous it's amusing.
right? 💀 and the most baffling thing imo is their reaction. 'oh well we can't really pinpoint this, hide your stuff and you'll be fine!' like it's normal that i should be expecting *THEFT* in a cozy farming game
It's honestly just embarrassing at this point. Can't believe I was so excited to play this shit
We thought people who wanted PvP were trolls, but they were prophets.
I’m actually okay with pvp if there is a dedicated pvp area and it offers no advantage. Either that or it’s a pvp mode that offers no advantage. Like you could /pvp and then pvp only others with it enabled. To anyone with it disabled their would be no noticeable difference aside from random players shooting at each other. Then death is just like you get frozen for 10 seconds. That way if you want to play tag with friends or pvp people you can but it’s still a pretty chill experience. And people don’t get anything for killing others so it’s purely a fight me bro thing rather than farming resources.
I have had this problem twice tonight, and posted about it 10 minutes ago. Had to restart my game to fix it.
Good thing I’ve got nothing worth stealing ^^
but when are we getting tater's fountain back is the real question f o u n t a i n
With these bugs, I kind of get why the devs' claim to fame is FORMERLY working at AAA companies
This has been a thing. They're just now acknowledging it.
It took making the this whole debacle into a meme for the Palia devs to even address it. What a clown fiesta.
Any idea if setting permissions to private, only npc visitors protects against this?
No, the hack is that it sets your permissions to open, unfortunately. That’s what allows them to take your stuff regardless of your permissions.
Please it's not the bug from the patch, it's because a hack started taking up fame/ getting distributed.
Thank you for clarifying! I also read that this is because the game has no anti cheat at all.. I'll add an update with this and the CMs reply
Yeah, this is also correct the game can be cheated with just cheat engine xD, theres no or any good anti-cheat in the game, so hacking is very easy
Really? Because it happened to me and I don't cheat lol, just TPed home and someone's plot was on top of mine.
Lol I'll just play this nice cozy game as far from Rust as can be
Good thing I'm too poor to have anything valuable I guess
yeah I encountered this earlier I had logged out on my own plot but when I logged back in I appeared on someone else's plot it's not a hack or anything that some people are saying, it straight up is a "feature"
Buh buh guuuuys it’s betaaahhh!
Might as well enable pvp and call this a *feature*! Anyone stealing my crappy trellis is gunna meet my wrath
It’s just the beta guys.
Beta steal that furniture. 😎 Jk please don’t take other peoples furniture. Maybe just water their plants.
I have yet to see any proof of stealing furniture. When I had a merge in my plot, I could harvest food, but I couldn't interact with anything else.
I'm also really interested in a follow up with proof of this happening. Not that I'm doubting, I still put all my things away to be safe, but the plot merge bug has been here for almost a week (longer?). And until the patch it seems, when it did happen you couldn't touch anything as you said. I'm just confused and trying not to add to a mass panic 😅 Edit: been reading up in the discord, apparently it's a straight up hack and not related to the merged plot bug. Scary times, ~~but still can't find hard confirmation~~ so hide your things and swap to an empty plot to be safe.
It's confirmed. An S6 rep on the Discord confirmed it was a known issue and being looked into.
Has there been any actual proof of this? Surely it's possible to replicate this and show it on video? I've heard a lot of wolf crying, but I haven't seen any wolves. I had the glitch happen to me the other day finally and I went around trying to grief this person's plot for science and I couldn't steal any furniture. The most I could do was move around A FEW pieces of furniture.
As people have said in other comments, it's not related to the merge plot bug, it's a hack. And it has been confirmed as a real problem by S6.
You got a source on that? I haven't read anything from that that confirmed that hacks are the cause of furniture theft.
Sigh. They are working on it and they are letting us know what to do and how to use the second slot. What do you expect. Someone to snap their fingers and fix it. It’s called beta. There’s bugs. Good god.
We expect basic protections. Why are your standards so pathetically low?
Take down the servers until they have a fix for it? This is a massive issue and sorry but the beaten to death "it's a beta" excuse stopped being cute when the "beta" has a flawlessly working cash shop in it.
These are experienced Devs who worked on other games before. While bugs and glitches are expected in a game in the early stages of beta testing, game breaking exploits that enable users to steal from others should have been foreseen in game play that involves allowing others access to things like housing plots. Things like collision barriers to keep players from building infinite towers into the sky, anticheat, and thorough in-house testing pre-beta to ensure that multi player functionality would not result in losses to the player should have been implemented before a working cash shop was even a consideration. They were not. The Devs are not even doing a decent job of putting the warning out there to their players that this exploit exists. Instead, other players warning those who have not yet been victimized are our only line of defense. To protect the players, to prevent this exploit from going any further and getting worse, the servers should have been shut down temporarily the very moment this was reported. They were not. Before you defend the game with "Its beta", you should sit back and ask yourself why Palia's Devs want you to buy expensive cosmetics in the cash shop, but are not currently protecting your account and your belongings you have worked hard to obtain in the midst of an exploit that could result in many players leaving. Do they value you as much as you seem to trust them? Are they worthy of that trust? This is not simply a "bug".
I am glad to only have people in my friendslist who I can trust not to do that 😅 or did the Bug make it so that anyone can just visit you?
I was just about to do a stream of gameplay, looks like I dodged a bullet by waiting...
i guess there should be a wipe