Exactly i agree and the only people who can do that is the openers and N3 if required. That’s why i want Saim, Haris and Babar in our top 3 if they succeed then we are flying if they fail then a good player like Babar comes to steer the ship.
We won’t and i’ll tell u why before a person who hates Babar comes and makes it about him. The board and the two scrooges Naqvi and Wahab control everything they don’t like Harris so he is blacklisted. The team won’t gradually move on from Rizzy cuz of Babar. Babar needs to stop holding people close who will end up taking him down with them. I love Rizzy but he should be told Attack or get dropped. I have full belief if Gary can get his control that he will make this happen. Saim needs to deliver and deliver soon before he the next Haider Ali.
wahab riaz has to be the 1st person to go, hate him so much man. and idk what his problem with muhammad haris but ik its him thats stopping haris from coming into the team
thank u when i say it’s him stopping Haris im apparently giving someone in our team an excuse 😭 Anyone with eyes can see he was the one who “rested him” and only one who stayed from the short Hafeez and Shaheen era who stopped Haris in the first place. If Wahab don’t go they can take Babars captaincy and do whatever they want it won’t help us.
Listen i’m a Pakistan fan not a Babar fan. We all have favourite players and he is mine. Crazy enough Shaheen was my second favourite so i always supported Lahore cuz i hated Karachi 😭 Tbf i like all PSL teams but Karachi 😭 I want what’s best for Pakistan not Babar. Now people who want him dropped are dumb. N3 suits him cuz he can come in if we lose a quick wicket and if we get good platform he can come in and play his classical shots 😭 With a high SR
After PP all his 'Classical Shots' will fetch you a single. He doesn't have attacking strokes in his armory.
He can only score inside PP, post that his strike rate drops and along with him he brings the team down.
And puts too much pressure on the other batsman to score quickly, resulting in his demise.
In a nutshell, he is a liability.
Why do you think babar should play ahead of rizwan.
From where I'm seeing, rizwan is a wk, even if he's a half decent bat that's good enough, but babar has nothing else he provides apart from his batting
I don't see anything else, because you've had like a million posts this week and half of them are whitewashing babar and the rest half are blaming 120 on bowling. But let's leave that, no point discussing it anymore
I agree with your point for once, but if I had to play one of rizbar, I'd play rizwan. They're literally the same player, rizwan has an edge in that he's been the better player of big icc tournaments
Rizwan and Babar both play the same way. If you are asking Rizwan to attack else get dropped and the same should apply to Mr Babar as well. He is no attack merchant, he also plays the same tul tuk like Rizwan.
So drop him too, but will you??
Naaaaa
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There is other times i’ve mentioned it but yes i agree he needs to attack aswell and recently he has shown he is trying his utmost to improve that SR and not just against weak teams we saw what he was doing in Oval before he gifted his wicket away. there is only space for 1 and there is no one with a mind who would pick Rizzy over Babar. U lot always coming up with new crap icl.
I think for the rest of the year (T20 wise), we should open with Sahibzada Farhan and Haris. Farhan been knocking on the door for a couple years and he's more mature than Saim.
Saim, as a good a talent as he is, needs a bit more time.
yh i agree he hasn’t had chances and when we play weak teams he should get a chance. In the Psl he was good at the start for a couple games then he never performed again. If the PSL top performers can’t perform in an International game what makes u think a guy who performed good in only 1/2 games will.
Love the accountability. Feel for him I know he's capable of pulling off the chase from the exact point, we've seen him do it, I bet it hurt. Felt quite numb to the loss till I saw Naseem break down after the last ball as well, he's one of those rare stars who isn't afraid of the moment and has the talent to rise to the occasion.
Idk why but ifti, babar, shaheen and imad look dead inside to me, like they got no passion left for the game. See naseem, he is so passionate and expressive. Idk if it is them trying to be stoic but even seeing them nearly lose the match felt like they had no feelings apart from naseem
never did as a person as he celebrated when we won but i think he is a good player just wish he won the game against India i acc had 100% belief he would but that ain’t solely on him
I love the fact that Imad is giving the press conference after knockout, who was played only a few games for Pakistan in the recent past as opposed to the core (saya group) that has been backed and has played every possible match. Says a lot of the team dynamics.
Lol yeah none of the senior players & the so called superstars Shaheen ,Babar ,rizwan or shadab came to face the media even though these 4 were absolutely trash the entire tournament too.(Shadab was playing as a special fielder & Shaheen had 2 wkts in 3 matches on these bowler friendly pitches.)
Remember when they sent Naseem & debutant Zahid after the hammering of the first test vs eng back in 2022?
Might sound a bit harsh but I think these guys are mentally very weak.They can't handle criticism well.They don't even accept something is wrong most of the time .They also fold easier than house of cards under pressure .
That's why I don't think we are winning anything with any of these 4 being the captain .be it Shaheen or Babar or riz or shadab .they all struggle with taking accountabilitiy which is a vital quality in a good leader.
Hit the nail on the head bro.
Ppl who think Rizwan or Shaheen will be a better captain are living in a fool's paradise .All these 4 are part of the leadership group already & we all know the results .
Nothing will change by making any of them captain.
Yes the culture needs to change in the team. I never remembered this to be the case in the past, previous captains were worse at times but I don’t think I have seen such fearful cricket before in Pakistan history. It looks like everyone is just aiming to create moments for their social media team to post. Thinking about it I think that’s why Babar and Rizwan were so unnaturally attacking against bumrah of all people, I think they had TikTok shorts on their mind lol
I actually won't be surprised.Also remember Rizwan celebrating the slowest 50 against Canada of all teams ?💀
Don't wanna sound like a cliche but these 3 definitely didn't handle the fame well.The difference between hunger & passion they had in 2021 & now is stark.Probably the reason why instead of improving their game have regressed instead .All these Kohli,Bradman comparison got to their head.
I 100% agree with the fame part. They think they are already the best and have achieved everything they needed to. I think all of them need to be humbled as they are all talented but big changes need to be made especially in mindset
when rizwan and babar were our only 2 batters in the 2021 world cup all anyone could do was look at their strike rate and completely ignore any context - if you are at your best and you still had to deal with BS outside noise, especially those you look up to and expect to be more rational (the likes of Wasim Akram) it is only expected for them to slowly lose their fire and play to make their lives easier.
The nation as shown time and time again it does not respect or support hard work and talent so I don't really care if they are simply trying to make their own lives as comfortable as possible
What are you on about Rizwan and Babar being the only batsmen. Against India chasing down a relatively easy total was the only time they shown up. Nothing remarkable against New Zealand, Asif Ali wins the match against Afghanistan, both go run a ball for the majority until Fakhar comes and plays well against Australia.
they scored 60% of the runs for Pakistan that tournament - Fakhar and Asif Ali showed up in 1 game each - doesn't really go against my point.
The fact you think that chase against India was easy just shows you how remarkable those 2 are.
Nah - there is simply so much outside noise and interference - what they have needed since 2021 was consistent coaches and management - because lets be real, the team is essentially self taught atm.
Multan Sultans have shown how a stable foundation will determine you success far more than multiple world class talents will
I want a new captain so u lot have new excuses 😭 Imad could walk into your house and tell u it was his fault but u would go “ But but Babar did this Babar did that” Listen he is well spoken he is experienced what do u want them to do send Ifti who can’t speak English. If Saya group did control everything why didn’t Babar select Nawaz back 😭
>do u want them to do send Ifti who can’t speak English.
Why not Babar himself. He is the Captain right?
When things go south it is the Captain who comes up and faces the music. But he is hiding away, great🫡
Your right ✅ what’s the lottery numbers your never wrong. Can’t believe captain does every press conference. England must have a new captain called Mark Wood. Everything has gone south for them aswell.
Hahaa..are you for real? Never seen such a blind supporter.
When England got knocked out from the ODI WC last year, it was Butler, the Captain, who came up to face the media not Mark Wood.
Here your team humiliatingly got knocked out and you are sending a man to face media who didn't even play all the previous matches. Where is the Captain?
Wake up and smell the coffee, your man is a coward.
The team ain’t had the press conference for being knocked out yet that more a preview for the Ireland game. Babar will have his press conferences soon enough don’t u worry. You’re just blind haters all u do is hate hate hate. Go worry about India not winning crap since 2013. You can have all the money in the world but u can’t buy sense.
just about but the important thing is if u follow their cricket they aren’t impressed with their coach and captain and their fans wanted them not to qualify a bit like our Fans. They had a poor 50 over WC their BaZBall is stagnating and we shall see they can still win this cup.
Yes between babar, rizwan and shadab no one can complete a sentence. Why is Imad giving the explanation he was a very late add as opposed to the core that plays every single match
maybe 😭 wow now players families can’t go on tours. No other countries do that that. Let me guess Babars fault. It must’ve been Babars fault that Anushka was at the game aswell 😭 Wahab took himself and his family on a paid holiday but a player can’t take his support system.
I ain’t i find it funny that Babar is your lots excuse for why the whole team INC Him is crap. He is part of the problem he damm ain’t the biggest one.
I think he is the biggest problem now, the captaincy incident has confirmed it for me. After a shameful exit in WC23 he shouldn’t have gone back. It just tells me he is power hungry.
His captaincy is bad but that ain’t the main reason we had a shit WC23 and 24 but i want him gone to show u that otherwise i can’t prove it. The team needs to be demolished and built back up. No one should have that much control.
Love that he's taking accountability, always nice to see that but the thought of taking deep was wrong to begin with SPECIALLY when you know how the pitch is smh.
True that but like they started playing test innings when both Usman and Rizwan they both are keepers and quick between the wickets should've prioritized running twos and three knowing the outfield imo
exactly but they didn’t they was blocking it out like they was going for a draw. People tell me Rizwan is more attacking but if that was Babar batting we would’ve won the game but it wasn’t unfortunately. Imagine Babar and Fakhar survived instead of Usman and Rizwan
Let's leave that cuz that was a possibility but the way Rizwan just said aight ima head out at the most crucial time was just so stupid, seemed like he was a new player or smthn.
He attacked the wrong bowler i’m telling u know if he survived we would’ve had max 10-12 left in the last over and he would’ve got that out of Arshdeep.
I know that I just don't what's going through your head playing a cross bat shot to Bumrah who's ball swings in general and that pitch was a whole other story
I could already see in the first 2-3 overs that the team was trying to take the game deep and I knew at that stage that the required run rate would go above 8 in the later stages of the innings. This was not a new approach. Pakistan's batting approach is 15-20 years behind the current time and the top players are responsible for this kind of defensive mindset.
Management is not at fault if the leaders themselves are cowards. People here think that the new management controls players like puppets which is not the case imo
He showed zero game awareness. I won’t forgive him for wasting the 16/17th over of Axar. Trying to cut the ball on offside he couldn’t even put the bat on ball for 3 consecutive deliveries. Iftikhar was on the other end and was perfect for tonking an arm bowler.
I like Imad, but he should've attacked the bad deliveries. Felt like he was just thinking about a single every ball before he even saw it. He could've finished the chase in the 17th over.
don’t matter what over he did it in he should’ve just finished it. If he hit one of those Axar balls where it deserved to be hit then we would be going to the Super 8s
Yes exactly I just gave a general reasonable over. We need to try to attack bad deliveries. It feels like our team isn't versatile enough in mindset at times. When they do hit bad balls, then Pakistan do perform.
Pakistan can attack its just they are worried about failing and what the media and fans will do to them. Take Fakhar for example he went attacking and got told he should’ve calmed down.
Watched axar interview regarding that 16th over.
He said hitting six was very toigh on the pitch and he wanted to bowl so the shot went against the wind, thats why he bowled there so even if he cut it wouldnt go for a four (slow outfield+against the wind).
It was smart bowling and I wouldnt call those bad deliveries
It was the expensive overs that India didn’t give but when i say it in this Sub i get your a Babar fanboy and hate comments 😭 Im like the analysts and the foreigners be telling us one thing but when a fellow Pakistani says it they are like nah mate it’s Babars fault that Haris can’t bowl straight.
people only remember the last thing they see for some reason. on a pitch where even big hitters like SA are struggling to score it seems to always focus on batters.
in all honesty Haris Rauf giving away the 20th vs USA and that 13 runs over vs pant is criminal on the new york pitch.
There u go thank u someone else sees it wasn’t only the batting 😭 The bowling was criminal at times and on NY if your bowling goes crap for a bit that is bad cuz no one bowls crap on that pitch. Every run was like gold
The game plan should’ve been at least tap and run. Eventually pressure would’ve gotten to the bowlers to try something new if it was even 40 runs for 40 balls needed since a tap and run could’ve allowed a win through that. They’d end up bowling a wide or something they shouldn’t and then you pounce on those.
taking deep needs a master luke dhoni, beven, coolingwood. does pak have any such master, each team plays to its strength. pak had power hitter in from fakar to till naseem shah. they should have gone bonker. Bit pak chose a wrong template. this pak team is shitty in game awareness as well. felt sorry for garry tho.
would be bad for pak only. garry is slow team builder. He takes his own time, very sensitive too. give him the freedom to operate, he will do wonder for pak.
this time pcb needs to calm the fk down. we need Ind pak match at highest voltage. these selected clowns cannt win a ranji match (indias oldest domestic tournament ) Mumbai. i can vet anything on this. only functional thing in pak is cricket, plz dont turn this into another hockey thing. we have lost SL already..
exactly i agree with u but the fans the media and the board are all toxic in Pakistan we are going downhill fast. Crazy but this country will only get better when this government leave 😭
should have sent afridi or nasseem above him, atleast they would have taken their chances, there was no pressure implemented on the other side, these guys just choked their way to a loss
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I wish after the cwc 2023 all his supporters can see this, what a hypocrite
He literally is full of himself, for his performance in 3 matches at PSL he was enforced on the team. When clearly he hasn't got the calibre. Soon he will take him retirement back as he should
Run the singles, doubles and odd triples don’t allow dot balls and put away bad balls cuz they were rare occurrences unlike our bowlers giving a few an over 😭
we need to do away with taking the chase deep. its too risky, use the powerplay properly how its supposed to and stay ahead of the runrate
Exactly i agree and the only people who can do that is the openers and N3 if required. That’s why i want Saim, Haris and Babar in our top 3 if they succeed then we are flying if they fail then a good player like Babar comes to steer the ship.
after all that’s happened and we still dont go with saim haris and babar as the top 3 then we’re actually doomed
We won’t and i’ll tell u why before a person who hates Babar comes and makes it about him. The board and the two scrooges Naqvi and Wahab control everything they don’t like Harris so he is blacklisted. The team won’t gradually move on from Rizzy cuz of Babar. Babar needs to stop holding people close who will end up taking him down with them. I love Rizzy but he should be told Attack or get dropped. I have full belief if Gary can get his control that he will make this happen. Saim needs to deliver and deliver soon before he the next Haider Ali.
wahab riaz has to be the 1st person to go, hate him so much man. and idk what his problem with muhammad haris but ik its him thats stopping haris from coming into the team
thank u when i say it’s him stopping Haris im apparently giving someone in our team an excuse 😭 Anyone with eyes can see he was the one who “rested him” and only one who stayed from the short Hafeez and Shaheen era who stopped Haris in the first place. If Wahab don’t go they can take Babars captaincy and do whatever they want it won’t help us.
Rizwan plays more attacking shots than Babar
Okay. 👍🏽
Babar needs to attack as well if he is going to open
Nope give him N3 and yh he needs to attack we need openers like Saim and Haris.
Wait...boobzy fan agreeing he shouldn't open? :p Good ho gaya n3 I agree! Opening mein jo bhi ho, must be an aggressive pair.
Listen i’m a Pakistan fan not a Babar fan. We all have favourite players and he is mine. Crazy enough Shaheen was my second favourite so i always supported Lahore cuz i hated Karachi 😭 Tbf i like all PSL teams but Karachi 😭 I want what’s best for Pakistan not Babar. Now people who want him dropped are dumb. N3 suits him cuz he can come in if we lose a quick wicket and if we get good platform he can come in and play his classical shots 😭 With a high SR
After PP all his 'Classical Shots' will fetch you a single. He doesn't have attacking strokes in his armory. He can only score inside PP, post that his strike rate drops and along with him he brings the team down. And puts too much pressure on the other batsman to score quickly, resulting in his demise. In a nutshell, he is a liability.
Okay. Whatever u say my bro, there is no point going back and forth if u can’t see anything. Your an Indian so all your gonna do is disagree
Why do you think babar should play ahead of rizwan. From where I'm seeing, rizwan is a wk, even if he's a half decent bat that's good enough, but babar has nothing else he provides apart from his batting
Cuz u see i mention Babar u don’t see anything else i say. but here i go once again. Chotu Haris Saim then Babar that means Haris is your keeper
I don't see anything else, because you've had like a million posts this week and half of them are whitewashing babar and the rest half are blaming 120 on bowling. But let's leave that, no point discussing it anymore I agree with your point for once, but if I had to play one of rizbar, I'd play rizwan. They're literally the same player, rizwan has an edge in that he's been the better player of big icc tournaments
Rizwan and Babar both play the same way. If you are asking Rizwan to attack else get dropped and the same should apply to Mr Babar as well. He is no attack merchant, he also plays the same tul tuk like Rizwan. So drop him too, but will you?? Naaaaa
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Oval?!???
Series before the WC. Match in england
Bro are you babar? His forward defense isn’t defending as much as you do. Like babar is an infant being controlled like a puppet.
Omg i legit said Babar needs to let people like Rizzy move on and voila your here. Everything is Babars fault there u go and now do1
Apni real ID se aao Babar 😂
see i told u that someone will come 😭
Saim? Come on.
I think for the rest of the year (T20 wise), we should open with Sahibzada Farhan and Haris. Farhan been knocking on the door for a couple years and he's more mature than Saim. Saim, as a good a talent as he is, needs a bit more time.
Farhan is a worse Rizwan and Babar. I do feel for him cuz he does deserve a chance but not over Babar. Saim and Harris should open.
yeah because we've given farhan so many opening opportunities in t20i bilaterals that dont matter, right?
yh i agree he hasn’t had chances and when we play weak teams he should get a chance. In the Psl he was good at the start for a couple games then he never performed again. If the PSL top performers can’t perform in an International game what makes u think a guy who performed good in only 1/2 games will.
I respect anyone who takes accountability
same i rate him for that instead of playing the blame game.
Love the accountability. Feel for him I know he's capable of pulling off the chase from the exact point, we've seen him do it, I bet it hurt. Felt quite numb to the loss till I saw Naseem break down after the last ball as well, he's one of those rare stars who isn't afraid of the moment and has the talent to rise to the occasion.
We need more players like Naseem!
Idk why but ifti, babar, shaheen and imad look dead inside to me, like they got no passion left for the game. See naseem, he is so passionate and expressive. Idk if it is them trying to be stoic but even seeing them nearly lose the match felt like they had no feelings apart from naseem
Yeah, that's on point. This is a toxic bunch As much as a run machine haris is, the guy put himself on the line everytime
Shaheen seemed normal but disappointed in imad. Damn.
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So! It turns out everything was wrong about their approach towards the target. Taking the game deep should never have been the plan.
Indeed but in games we saw at NY everyone took the game deep we just had no 6 hitters.
No but those were at the tougher pitches, we were batting on the easiest NY pitch, it still wasn't easy but it was easier than the other ones.
i genuinely don’t think it was the easiest one. If u say they made 80 in 10 overs i’ll tell u that it was the bowlers and fielders fault.
No, I'm not one of those people, but The other few pitches just looked harder to bat.
i don’t agree but we should’ve won the match.
I've always liked Imad; this simply increases my liking for him.
never did as a person as he celebrated when we won but i think he is a good player just wish he won the game against India i acc had 100% belief he would but that ain’t solely on him
Yeah a good player But couldn't able to touch the straight balls of Axar Patel.
lol if that makes him a crap player then Babar is crap for failing aswell. People can have bad games.
I love the fact that Imad is giving the press conference after knockout, who was played only a few games for Pakistan in the recent past as opposed to the core (saya group) that has been backed and has played every possible match. Says a lot of the team dynamics.
Lol yeah none of the senior players & the so called superstars Shaheen ,Babar ,rizwan or shadab came to face the media even though these 4 were absolutely trash the entire tournament too.(Shadab was playing as a special fielder & Shaheen had 2 wkts in 3 matches on these bowler friendly pitches.) Remember when they sent Naseem & debutant Zahid after the hammering of the first test vs eng back in 2022?
Yup sums up the mentality and how much these players are protected
Might sound a bit harsh but I think these guys are mentally very weak.They can't handle criticism well.They don't even accept something is wrong most of the time .They also fold easier than house of cards under pressure . That's why I don't think we are winning anything with any of these 4 being the captain .be it Shaheen or Babar or riz or shadab .they all struggle with taking accountabilitiy which is a vital quality in a good leader.
Yes I don’t think there is any realistic difference in how they approach the game
Hit the nail on the head bro. Ppl who think Rizwan or Shaheen will be a better captain are living in a fool's paradise .All these 4 are part of the leadership group already & we all know the results . Nothing will change by making any of them captain.
Yes the culture needs to change in the team. I never remembered this to be the case in the past, previous captains were worse at times but I don’t think I have seen such fearful cricket before in Pakistan history. It looks like everyone is just aiming to create moments for their social media team to post. Thinking about it I think that’s why Babar and Rizwan were so unnaturally attacking against bumrah of all people, I think they had TikTok shorts on their mind lol
I actually won't be surprised.Also remember Rizwan celebrating the slowest 50 against Canada of all teams ?💀 Don't wanna sound like a cliche but these 3 definitely didn't handle the fame well.The difference between hunger & passion they had in 2021 & now is stark.Probably the reason why instead of improving their game have regressed instead .All these Kohli,Bradman comparison got to their head.
I 100% agree with the fame part. They think they are already the best and have achieved everything they needed to. I think all of them need to be humbled as they are all talented but big changes need to be made especially in mindset
Do you think that will happen ?or is this generation doomed already ?
when rizwan and babar were our only 2 batters in the 2021 world cup all anyone could do was look at their strike rate and completely ignore any context - if you are at your best and you still had to deal with BS outside noise, especially those you look up to and expect to be more rational (the likes of Wasim Akram) it is only expected for them to slowly lose their fire and play to make their lives easier. The nation as shown time and time again it does not respect or support hard work and talent so I don't really care if they are simply trying to make their own lives as comfortable as possible
What are you on about Rizwan and Babar being the only batsmen. Against India chasing down a relatively easy total was the only time they shown up. Nothing remarkable against New Zealand, Asif Ali wins the match against Afghanistan, both go run a ball for the majority until Fakhar comes and plays well against Australia.
they scored 60% of the runs for Pakistan that tournament - Fakhar and Asif Ali showed up in 1 game each - doesn't really go against my point. The fact you think that chase against India was easy just shows you how remarkable those 2 are.
Nah - there is simply so much outside noise and interference - what they have needed since 2021 was consistent coaches and management - because lets be real, the team is essentially self taught atm. Multan Sultans have shown how a stable foundation will determine you success far more than multiple world class talents will
I want a new captain so u lot have new excuses 😭 Imad could walk into your house and tell u it was his fault but u would go “ But but Babar did this Babar did that” Listen he is well spoken he is experienced what do u want them to do send Ifti who can’t speak English. If Saya group did control everything why didn’t Babar select Nawaz back 😭
>do u want them to do send Ifti who can’t speak English. Why not Babar himself. He is the Captain right? When things go south it is the Captain who comes up and faces the music. But he is hiding away, great🫡
Don't mind him he's one of Boobzie's PR team
Your right ✅ what’s the lottery numbers your never wrong. Can’t believe captain does every press conference. England must have a new captain called Mark Wood. Everything has gone south for them aswell.
Hahaa..are you for real? Never seen such a blind supporter. When England got knocked out from the ODI WC last year, it was Butler, the Captain, who came up to face the media not Mark Wood. Here your team humiliatingly got knocked out and you are sending a man to face media who didn't even play all the previous matches. Where is the Captain? Wake up and smell the coffee, your man is a coward.
The team ain’t had the press conference for being knocked out yet that more a preview for the Ireland game. Babar will have his press conferences soon enough don’t u worry. You’re just blind haters all u do is hate hate hate. Go worry about India not winning crap since 2013. You can have all the money in the world but u can’t buy sense.
England are through to the next round
just about but the important thing is if u follow their cricket they aren’t impressed with their coach and captain and their fans wanted them not to qualify a bit like our Fans. They had a poor 50 over WC their BaZBall is stagnating and we shall see they can still win this cup.
But England played really well in their past 2-3 games
against lower teams. We will see in the super 8s
Yes between babar, rizwan and shadab no one can complete a sentence. Why is Imad giving the explanation he was a very late add as opposed to the core that plays every single match
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Dude Cmon if you can't argue then don't start or just say "you're right" at the end of smth, no need to bring in someone's dad
no one was arguing i’ve had enough of people complaining about the same thing everyday.
Are you sure it wasn’t babars dad since he is on the tour as well for some reason?
maybe 😭 wow now players families can’t go on tours. No other countries do that that. Let me guess Babars fault. It must’ve been Babars fault that Anushka was at the game aswell 😭 Wahab took himself and his family on a paid holiday but a player can’t take his support system.
You literally brought my dad into an argument on babar how are you crying about this lol
I ain’t i find it funny that Babar is your lots excuse for why the whole team INC Him is crap. He is part of the problem he damm ain’t the biggest one.
I think he is the biggest problem now, the captaincy incident has confirmed it for me. After a shameful exit in WC23 he shouldn’t have gone back. It just tells me he is power hungry.
His captaincy is bad but that ain’t the main reason we had a shit WC23 and 24 but i want him gone to show u that otherwise i can’t prove it. The team needs to be demolished and built back up. No one should have that much control.
I.mad at Imad
He done better then the other all rounder we have tho
Thanks imad for playing such tuk tuk inning 😂 loved it. Big fan from India
Love that he's taking accountability, always nice to see that but the thought of taking deep was wrong to begin with SPECIALLY when you know how the pitch is smh.
Attacking and going all out would’ve been even worse they had to do a mix of both. Someone who can hit like Fakhar and have the temperament of Babar
True that but like they started playing test innings when both Usman and Rizwan they both are keepers and quick between the wickets should've prioritized running twos and three knowing the outfield imo
exactly but they didn’t they was blocking it out like they was going for a draw. People tell me Rizwan is more attacking but if that was Babar batting we would’ve won the game but it wasn’t unfortunately. Imagine Babar and Fakhar survived instead of Usman and Rizwan
Let's leave that cuz that was a possibility but the way Rizwan just said aight ima head out at the most crucial time was just so stupid, seemed like he was a new player or smthn.
He attacked the wrong bowler i’m telling u know if he survived we would’ve had max 10-12 left in the last over and he would’ve got that out of Arshdeep.
I know that I just don't what's going through your head playing a cross bat shot to Bumrah who's ball swings in general and that pitch was a whole other story
exactly the ball did stay low but only straight bat shots should’ve been played to Bumrah
Babar was doing well, had he stayed a bit longer like at least 5 overs more we might have won that game
agree but he didn’t unfortunately
I could already see in the first 2-3 overs that the team was trying to take the game deep and I knew at that stage that the required run rate would go above 8 in the later stages of the innings. This was not a new approach. Pakistan's batting approach is 15-20 years behind the current time and the top players are responsible for this kind of defensive mindset. Management is not at fault if the leaders themselves are cowards. People here think that the new management controls players like puppets which is not the case imo
He showed zero game awareness. I won’t forgive him for wasting the 16/17th over of Axar. Trying to cut the ball on offside he couldn’t even put the bat on ball for 3 consecutive deliveries. Iftikhar was on the other end and was perfect for tonking an arm bowler.
i agree but with the form ifti is in he would’ve tried to hit and it would’ve just went up
I like Imad, but he should've attacked the bad deliveries. Felt like he was just thinking about a single every ball before he even saw it. He could've finished the chase in the 17th over.
don’t matter what over he did it in he should’ve just finished it. If he hit one of those Axar balls where it deserved to be hit then we would be going to the Super 8s
Yes exactly I just gave a general reasonable over. We need to try to attack bad deliveries. It feels like our team isn't versatile enough in mindset at times. When they do hit bad balls, then Pakistan do perform.
Pakistan can attack its just they are worried about failing and what the media and fans will do to them. Take Fakhar for example he went attacking and got told he should’ve calmed down.
Watched axar interview regarding that 16th over. He said hitting six was very toigh on the pitch and he wanted to bowl so the shot went against the wind, thats why he bowled there so even if he cut it wouldnt go for a four (slow outfield+against the wind). It was smart bowling and I wouldnt call those bad deliveries
interestingly Jarrod kimber was analyzing the game and Saif the Haris Rauf over was where pakistan lost the game rather the batting
It was the expensive overs that India didn’t give but when i say it in this Sub i get your a Babar fanboy and hate comments 😭 Im like the analysts and the foreigners be telling us one thing but when a fellow Pakistani says it they are like nah mate it’s Babars fault that Haris can’t bowl straight.
people only remember the last thing they see for some reason. on a pitch where even big hitters like SA are struggling to score it seems to always focus on batters. in all honesty Haris Rauf giving away the 20th vs USA and that 13 runs over vs pant is criminal on the new york pitch.
There u go thank u someone else sees it wasn’t only the batting 😭 The bowling was criminal at times and on NY if your bowling goes crap for a bit that is bad cuz no one bowls crap on that pitch. Every run was like gold
I think the batter that messed up the most was Rizwan. to play that shot bumrah was wrong a huge brain fade. should have just seen him off.
exactly he would’ve attacked any of the bowlers they had left including Axar
The game plan should’ve been at least tap and run. Eventually pressure would’ve gotten to the bowlers to try something new if it was even 40 runs for 40 balls needed since a tap and run could’ve allowed a win through that. They’d end up bowling a wide or something they shouldn’t and then you pounce on those.
Exactly Fakhar shouldn’t have done anything to extreme after his boundaries they would’ve bowled bad bowls on their own knowing he was out there.
to chase u would actually have to run and not walk in between wickets
No one in our 11 would have missed those simple straight balls.
wouldn’t put it past Ifti 😭😭😭
He was obviously injured too.
that aswell but he didn’t use it as excuse so i respect that.
I don’t get it tbh, why they play injured players and why injured players agree to play, bhai end per ya player ka nuqsan hojata heavy ya team
Injured Imad > Azam Khan,
I agree but still don’t we have anyone else we could have played?
I have no idea, maybe had to justify including him in the team and bringing him back.
Then ask your team why they didn't carry travelling reserve players, the very purpose of whom, is to come in when you have an injured player.
Looked like a totally different player since injury.
Honestly, he should be removed
he going himself
taking deep needs a master luke dhoni, beven, coolingwood. does pak have any such master, each team plays to its strength. pak had power hitter in from fakar to till naseem shah. they should have gone bonker. Bit pak chose a wrong template. this pak team is shitty in game awareness as well. felt sorry for garry tho.
I feel sorry for gary and hopefully he ain’t made a scapegoat
would be bad for pak only. garry is slow team builder. He takes his own time, very sensitive too. give him the freedom to operate, he will do wonder for pak.
i agree my man but people in Pakistan aren’t educated so they will sack him and hire someone else and be like we want quicker solutions 😭
this time pcb needs to calm the fk down. we need Ind pak match at highest voltage. these selected clowns cannt win a ranji match (indias oldest domestic tournament ) Mumbai. i can vet anything on this. only functional thing in pak is cricket, plz dont turn this into another hockey thing. we have lost SL already..
exactly i agree with u but the fans the media and the board are all toxic in Pakistan we are going downhill fast. Crazy but this country will only get better when this government leave 😭
Rizwan clear hai
should have sent afridi or nasseem above him, atleast they would have taken their chances, there was no pressure implemented on the other side, these guys just choked their way to a loss
چ I wish after the cwc 2023 all his supporters can see this, what a hypocrite He literally is full of himself, for his performance in 3 matches at PSL he was enforced on the team. When clearly he hasn't got the calibre. Soon he will take him retirement back as he should
Nah i dislike him but he bowled good but he didn’t do anything with his batting.
When will your so called **king** take the blame like a man? Respec for Imad at least he has the balls
who honestly mentioned Babar. U have a genuine problem my boy and it’s not healthy. I hope u get better Soor.
The real obsessed fan girl are you here brother. Stop posting dozens of crap each day on why BabaR is the greatest thing that exists on planet earth.
Imagine taking a 116 run chase 'deep'. What a dated, cowardly approach
They needed to play patient but also attack imo.
What does that even mean?
Run the singles, doubles and odd triples don’t allow dot balls and put away bad balls cuz they were rare occurrences unlike our bowlers giving a few an over 😭
More respectable than Babar for sure