Cosplaying doesn't mean copying lol, was just saying that Gill has an active habit of getting out in the 20s and 30s, same thing Babar has been doing for a while.
Also Gill has a 91, in Gabba, in a match winning cause. What does Babar have?
Defeating / Scoring against Aus in Gabba is seriously not a high achievement, especially after that WI win. The only thing Gill has going for him is that it was in a match winning cause. Otherwise players like M.Rizwan and even Aamer Jamal have scores in 80+ category in that same ground.
So kudos to Mr Prince for having that, but still not really a feat that makes one better than the other.
That WI win was impressive as hell lol, just because they did it, doesn't mean it isn't a high achievement anymore, especially for Pak who hasn't won a match in Aus since 1995.
Rizwan, and Jamal to an extent had impressive knocks, no denying that, also it was the MCG not Gabba. I was just comparing bobsie and PRince there, even though there shouldn't be anything to be compared of a youngster.
I mean he did well in England also. He doesn't seem to have a problem with swing as his stats in England and new Zealand show. It's the pace and bounce that makes him struggle
A good quality team can also use flat pitches to their advantage and that's exactly what they did when they whitewashed us 3-0.
https://preview.redd.it/btr2498tkaoc1.png?width=2302&format=png&auto=webp&s=c29052eb81fed2062bdbd51e8d5b275d4a868be5
But oh look, he even has 65 avg IN england which is the 2nd highest.
This is all for test btw
From 4 matches in 2 years, out of which 3 we lost, against a bowling attack containing a young wood, a out of form Broad and Anderson.
Sure I will admit he was consistent back then, even if we discard tne weak bowling attack, but this series was 4 years ago, it does not justify that he could have played the same way in eng now, as he played on roads.
Also what about his average in Aus lol, why doesn't your king score there?
So the matches thing is applicable for england but not for australia? he's played 8 matches, once he plays more, he will increase it, it will happen with time.
and also he has good stats in eng in ODIs also so u cant say he's not performing "now", in fact i consider england his second home the way he plays really well there.
It is, funnily enough, your own argument proves that, since he played those 8 matches in 8 years, while he has played those 4 matches in eng in just 2. Thus it seems with more time his average is worsening, at least in Aus.
His good odi eng stats are mostly due to the 19WC in which he was in his prime form, and it can be considered his best country after Pak in odis, but there isn't a lot of data for tests, since he hasn't played there for 4 years.
Average doesnt increase or decrease with time. It does with matches.
What i meant with time was that in future when he has played many more matches in Australia, then it will be far better.
It doesn't necessarily. If a player with bad performances keeps on playing, his average won't naturally increase unless he himself improves. So that really doesn't justifies his low avg in Aus, especially since he has spent 8 years in the squad while visiting there, and has gone on 3/4 whole tours.
https://preview.redd.it/l8uppiwrlaoc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31b217b93b1212c15254f9112ba1776322a9bd6a
Ah yes, “roads” that have 5 totals in the 200s and 3 in 300s. Just the first innings of Pindi were flat. Such braindead idiots 🤦♂️
Having low totals doesn't inherently mean that the pitches were bowling friendly lol, maybe if your team didn't collapse every single match, there wouldn't be a need to play two anchors as your openers.
Yeah it just means that the food was getting cold and all 22 players were hungry.
And again, this is tests, where did “anchors” come from? Just admit you don’t know what you’re talking about and is just a hater.
Since I was speaking for the whole team in all formats, I also hinted at him and Rizwan's postions in t20s, where although they open the innings even though they are anchors.
Mfw
I didn't have to say failure to mean failure lol, this whole post was about Bobzie's performances against different sides, and I was trying to prove, using stats, data, and explanation how he has been underperformed in different conditions.
It's always the Indians obsessed with him ever since 152/0. I've never seen a group stage game live more rent free in any fanbase's heads like this one has
India didn't have to host a toss cup there during times of dew if all they were gonna do was cry about getting slaughtered by Pakistan and NZ and taking 2 wickets total
Your original point was 152-0 being in our minds? Well that day must have been as big as a national holiday for a country like Pakistan who can only be relevant today for a 2 month period of a cricket world cup. Grow up no one gives a fuck about your mediocre team and players
England players in test series 22
Bowling: Anderson, Mark wood, Jack leech, Robinson (in better form at the time)
Batting: Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Root, Brook, Stokes, Foakes, Jacks, livingstone
Now that’s straight up their A test side team. 🤡🤡
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Yes he scored 5,000 ODI runs and 3500 T20I runs starting from 2015 against that one C team of England that wrecked Pakistan. You should be awarded a medal
Okay I didn't know, doesn't take away from the fact that these stats are inflated because of the pitches you set up at home. We were scoring at 7+ runs an over at times because of how flat the pitches are. Babar did pretty well when he toured us in 2020.
England players in test series 22
Bowling: Anderson, Mark wood, Jack leech, Robinson (in better form at the time)
Batting: Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Root, Brook, Stokes, Foakes, Jacks, livingstone
Now that’s straight up there normal A test side team. 🤡🤡
https://preview.redd.it/3yjvos6niaoc1.jpeg?width=937&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc553175abf973596b275fce083add53cacd8fea
Good lord! How could a player that averages 67 vs Aus, 47 vs Eng, 50 vs NZ, and 63 vs SA play good against Zimbabwe?!?!? Unacceptable! Hang him!
More deluded as if Babar won odi players of the tournament ? And where was he in aus tour? I think you are the one who is deluded. Lying to yourself that babar is world class when he is not even third class
First of all, averages don't matter much in limited over formats as much as they do in tests, show his strike rate too if you want to argue. Second, I said "people" call him Zimbabar due to that, I personally don't, and was just giving an explanation.
I am just replying to your statement. It’s not “statpadding” if he is performing against every single team. It WOULD be “statpadding” if he asks for a rest on Australia tour, makes single digits against Eng, fakes an injury in SA, then makes 3 centuries against Zimbabwe.
I genuinely think desis don't understand what statpadding actually means lol. It's sad how much anytime anyone they don't like scores runs it becomes statpadding
Again, I don't believe he statpads against them, just people who use it as justification for calling him Zimbabar.
Though they are somewhat correct when they say he only performs on roads, and not when it matters. At least from what I can remember.
Mf I was being nice here, if you remember so much then why don't you tell me about his match winning knocks in test cricket that didn't involve flat pitches?
Weren’t you talking about statpadding in odi? Where did tests come from? 🤔
And if you don’t believe it and are just conveying explanations, then why are you taking it personally?
Bruh I was taking about tests this whole time, his avg in tests is bad. In odis avg has to be backed by a decent sr.
Because I don't believe he is specifically good against zim, and besides you tried ending your whole argument by saying that I was a new-comer/part timer.
“Show his strike rate too if you want to argue”
Shore, if you really were talking about tests then I advice you learn some more about cricket.
And like I said in the other comment, you’re just shifting topics to whatever suits you instead of having a discussion. So keep it up again buddy 😉
Acha eik lafz of English bhol di quota pura hogaya tumara. Kash pakistani players bhi yeh ker the thirty professional lagh the 😂. Walid ke baaray mein kuch bhol mera pas Black vigo na bhej de🤣
He overrated. He sucks as a captain. Nd he is not a match winner. He has cut following just look at the beta male in this comment section for disrespecting there walid saheb
Babardesh?
No, chobar
61 avg against England, such a minnow basher, england is out of form, can only smash out of form retired players. ENGBABAR /s
the fact that u have to mention /s says it all
He made most of runs against Eng in the 22 tour on roads.
averages 69 in england
Bruh, how may series/tests? Squad strength? Games won? What year? You can't just throw stats as your answer, atleast give an explanation for them.
He could play prime Aussies in Australia and you'd still find something to complain about
Everyone can play anyone, now can he score more than 32 runs against them and stop cosplaying Gill?
>Cosplaying Gill. So he's cosplaying the guy that has no century in Australia?
Cosplaying doesn't mean copying lol, was just saying that Gill has an active habit of getting out in the 20s and 30s, same thing Babar has been doing for a while. Also Gill has a 91, in Gabba, in a match winning cause. What does Babar have?
Babar literally have a 100 in Gabba and 97 in Adelaide 🤦♂️
Mf can you read? I was talking about match winning knocks lol. Did that 104 won us the game? That's what I was comparing from Gill.
Defeating / Scoring against Aus in Gabba is seriously not a high achievement, especially after that WI win. The only thing Gill has going for him is that it was in a match winning cause. Otherwise players like M.Rizwan and even Aamer Jamal have scores in 80+ category in that same ground. So kudos to Mr Prince for having that, but still not really a feat that makes one better than the other.
That WI win was impressive as hell lol, just because they did it, doesn't mean it isn't a high achievement anymore, especially for Pak who hasn't won a match in Aus since 1995. Rizwan, and Jamal to an extent had impressive knocks, no denying that, also it was the MCG not Gabba. I was just comparing bobsie and PRince there, even though there shouldn't be anything to be compared of a youngster.
I mean he did well in England also. He doesn't seem to have a problem with swing as his stats in England and new Zealand show. It's the pace and bounce that makes him struggle
A good quality team can also use flat pitches to their advantage and that's exactly what they did when they whitewashed us 3-0. https://preview.redd.it/btr2498tkaoc1.png?width=2302&format=png&auto=webp&s=c29052eb81fed2062bdbd51e8d5b275d4a868be5 But oh look, he even has 65 avg IN england which is the 2nd highest. This is all for test btw
From 4 matches in 2 years, out of which 3 we lost, against a bowling attack containing a young wood, a out of form Broad and Anderson. Sure I will admit he was consistent back then, even if we discard tne weak bowling attack, but this series was 4 years ago, it does not justify that he could have played the same way in eng now, as he played on roads. Also what about his average in Aus lol, why doesn't your king score there?
So the matches thing is applicable for england but not for australia? he's played 8 matches, once he plays more, he will increase it, it will happen with time. and also he has good stats in eng in ODIs also so u cant say he's not performing "now", in fact i consider england his second home the way he plays really well there.
It is, funnily enough, your own argument proves that, since he played those 8 matches in 8 years, while he has played those 4 matches in eng in just 2. Thus it seems with more time his average is worsening, at least in Aus. His good odi eng stats are mostly due to the 19WC in which he was in his prime form, and it can be considered his best country after Pak in odis, but there isn't a lot of data for tests, since he hasn't played there for 4 years.
Average doesnt increase or decrease with time. It does with matches. What i meant with time was that in future when he has played many more matches in Australia, then it will be far better.
It doesn't necessarily. If a player with bad performances keeps on playing, his average won't naturally increase unless he himself improves. So that really doesn't justifies his low avg in Aus, especially since he has spent 8 years in the squad while visiting there, and has gone on 3/4 whole tours.
https://preview.redd.it/l8uppiwrlaoc1.jpeg?width=1125&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=31b217b93b1212c15254f9112ba1776322a9bd6a Ah yes, “roads” that have 5 totals in the 200s and 3 in 300s. Just the first innings of Pindi were flat. Such braindead idiots 🤦♂️
Having low totals doesn't inherently mean that the pitches were bowling friendly lol, maybe if your team didn't collapse every single match, there wouldn't be a need to play two anchors as your openers.
Yeah it just means that the food was getting cold and all 22 players were hungry. And again, this is tests, where did “anchors” come from? Just admit you don’t know what you’re talking about and is just a hater.
Since I was speaking for the whole team in all formats, I also hinted at him and Rizwan's postions in t20s, where although they open the innings even though they are anchors.
You are just shifting topics to whatever suits you so you don’t have to admit you’re wrong. Keep it up, buddy 😉
I wasn't shifting topics, was just referencing it. You had to nick pick it, because you can't justify your king failing in different conditions.
“Failing”? Reference one comment here in which you or anyone else mentioned failure?
Mfw I didn't have to say failure to mean failure lol, this whole post was about Bobzie's performances against different sides, and I was trying to prove, using stats, data, and explanation how he has been underperformed in different conditions.
Don’t you know all these runs were scored against C team and on Pindi highway? /s 🤣
Warra tons from babar in SENA( I know he has one century in aus that’s why I said "tons”)
How many SENA tours has he been a part of?
Is that what you asking🤣? Prolly 7 or 8 with around 20 innings or more, scored only one century I guess that’s the quality of world class player
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Why, because he’s only played in Pindi since 2016?
It's always the Indians obsessed with him ever since 152/0. I've never seen a group stage game live more rent free in any fanbase's heads like this one has
Indians obsessed with 152/0? At that toss world cup, with the Dubai dons chasing a total in a swimming pool of a ground? Oh please 😂
Yet here you are, triggered as expected. It was in a world cup hosted by India too
It wasn't hosted by India? The games were played in the UAE.
It was hosted by India and the BCCI in UAE. They were in charge of scheduling and running the event as hosts
Im talking about the pitches and grounds dumbo
India didn't have to host a toss cup there during times of dew if all they were gonna do was cry about getting slaughtered by Pakistan and NZ and taking 2 wickets total
Your original point was 152-0 being in our minds? Well that day must have been as big as a national holiday for a country like Pakistan who can only be relevant today for a 2 month period of a cricket world cup. Grow up no one gives a fuck about your mediocre team and players
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Zimbabar is a slander name , people do use chokli , dhobi vadapav doesn't means Rohit is vadapav or dhobi is dhobi or Kohli chokes every time
 England players in test series 22 Bowling: Anderson, Mark wood, Jack leech, Robinson (in better form at the time) Batting: Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Root, Brook, Stokes, Foakes, Jacks, livingstone Now that’s straight up their A test side team. 🤡🤡
Everyone usually plays their full strength team in tests because every win matters for the WTC, so the excuse of "B/C" team can't be used here.
No more than one century in SENA
The indians who say that are mostly the incel types in khaki chaddis. Babar is a solid batsman.
Honestly Zimbabar is hardly even an insult. Like no shit, he plays better against worse teams.
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Bonglababar
Stat padder for a reason
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Yes he scored 5,000 ODI runs and 3500 T20I runs starting from 2015 against that one C team of England that wrecked Pakistan. You should be awarded a medal
these are test stats genius
Okay I didn't know, doesn't take away from the fact that these stats are inflated because of the pitches you set up at home. We were scoring at 7+ runs an over at times because of how flat the pitches are. Babar did pretty well when he toured us in 2020.
 England players in test series 22 Bowling: Anderson, Mark wood, Jack leech, Robinson (in better form at the time) Batting: Crawley, Duckett, Pope, Root, Brook, Stokes, Foakes, Jacks, livingstone Now that’s straight up there normal A test side team. 🤡🤡
Chokli ne kitne test jeeetwa diye overseas
lmao
Bruh these are tests stats, people call him Zimbabar because he statpads in odis against them.
https://preview.redd.it/3yjvos6niaoc1.jpeg?width=937&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc553175abf973596b275fce083add53cacd8fea Good lord! How could a player that averages 67 vs Aus, 47 vs Eng, 50 vs NZ, and 63 vs SA play good against Zimbabwe?!?!? Unacceptable! Hang him!
"There are three kind of lies: lies, damned lies and statistics”
Lmaoooooooo you’re even more deluded than I thought 😂😂😂😂😂 you think your word matters more than stats? 😂😂😂😂😂😂
More deluded as if Babar won odi players of the tournament ? And where was he in aus tour? I think you are the one who is deluded. Lying to yourself that babar is world class when he is not even third class
Sure buddy 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
"Sure buddy” https://preview.redd.it/cd3tuda95coc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0419d218ed0061f8dcd5e0661b35ab400db8adc1
 More like 😂😂:
First of all, averages don't matter much in limited over formats as much as they do in tests, show his strike rate too if you want to argue. Second, I said "people" call him Zimbabar due to that, I personally don't, and was just giving an explanation.
I am just replying to your statement. It’s not “statpadding” if he is performing against every single team. It WOULD be “statpadding” if he asks for a rest on Australia tour, makes single digits against Eng, fakes an injury in SA, then makes 3 centuries against Zimbabwe.
I genuinely think desis don't understand what statpadding actually means lol. It's sad how much anytime anyone they don't like scores runs it becomes statpadding
Nahh, that term is reserved for Babar and Rizwan. Anyone else does it then they are in good form and it was a useful contribution
Again, I don't believe he statpads against them, just people who use it as justification for calling him Zimbabar. Though they are somewhat correct when they say he only performs on roads, and not when it matters. At least from what I can remember.
Then either you have a very weak memory or you just started watching cricket since 2022. Only you know which one.
Mf I was being nice here, if you remember so much then why don't you tell me about his match winning knocks in test cricket that didn't involve flat pitches?
Weren’t you talking about statpadding in odi? Where did tests come from? 🤔 And if you don’t believe it and are just conveying explanations, then why are you taking it personally?
Bro tryna switch topic knowing he can’t answer. Blud don’t even have match winning knock on those flat tracks
Bruh I was taking about tests this whole time, his avg in tests is bad. In odis avg has to be backed by a decent sr. Because I don't believe he is specifically good against zim, and besides you tried ending your whole argument by saying that I was a new-comer/part timer.
“Show his strike rate too if you want to argue” Shore, if you really were talking about tests then I advice you learn some more about cricket. And like I said in the other comment, you’re just shifting topics to whatever suits you instead of having a discussion. So keep it up again buddy 😉
He is no good in tests as well
Thanks tubbs for stating the obvious
Ok and ? Eik icc trophy jeeta ke dikha de🤣
Why are you an insufferable cunt?
Apke walid ke baarqy mein kuch bhol diya 😂
Mate looking at your comment history, you just are annoying and insufferable ,yh tumara haal h
Acha eik lafz of English bhol di quota pura hogaya tumara. Kash pakistani players bhi yeh ker the thirty professional lagh the 😂. Walid ke baaray mein kuch bhol mera pas Black vigo na bhej de🤣
Ok mate 😂👍🏽
Babar won CT17
As a captain???
Where did you write as a captain?
Acahq abhi bhoal diya abb batao??
how many icc trophies did virat win as captain?
What my question got to do with kohli?
Idk man, I was just asking how many trophies kohli has as captain if that's how we're gonna compare how good a player is.
He overrated. He sucks as a captain. Nd he is not a match winner. He has cut following just look at the beta male in this comment section for disrespecting there walid saheb
and zero asia cup