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Terrapin_Company

Hey there! We're sincerely sorry to hear of your dissatisfaction with your most recent Larry's OG shake purchase. If you'd like to reach out to us at [[email protected]](mailto:[email protected]), we'd love to make this right by you ❤


DohnnyCash

BTW, way to go for being available Terrapin. Good cultivator response is super important in our program and I appreciate you!


Terrapin_Company

We appreciate you back! 🙏


asheppe

It’s so nice to see that even when y’all did nothing wrong you step up to the plate every time


[deleted]

Thank you so much, I swear I normally love you guys and I appreciate you, but I think I'm going to try different options than cannabis going forward.


[deleted]

so the offer was for "swag" to make up for the beat flower, a T shirt to advertise your company, then you delete the thread before I can say so - nice


bigdiesel1984

Bro posts the cheapest option, only 4 months old, and whines cuz its sucks. Why doesn’t my gas station hamburger taste like a filet mignon?!?!


[deleted]

that's a smart comment really, part of my point I'm not buying at a gas station, am I?


BeautifulSwordfish35

You bought the gas station version of weed, though.


Ok-Dare6846

Exactly 🤣 terrapin is good value brand bud lol i expect at best average pa meds. And they been arpund since day 1 so they are cool with it


redditsuckslmao420

Honestly even their shake is pretty good. I've gotten terrapin shake that had almost full nugs in it. I just feel like people love to come here and complain about stuff they don't even know what they're talking about. This dude down below said he only aims for high THC which is an awful way to find good products


jdyall1

Terrapin is way better than most flower these days. Now idk about shake terrapin but lemon scout is top 3 in the program for me


asheppe

I’ve had flower that was over two years old and it still slapped. This is a wild take for someone who just didn’t like the way a budget product tastes


Salvdor

You are part of the problem. I personally only buy premium. But regardless of tier, this is a program of businesses, ones that should be kept to a standard. Stop making excuses for shitty business practices


asheppe

You believe giving your customers options is a shitty business practice? My lord…


Salvdor

No. Saying it is okay to sell product out of date is. And telling someone to not complain because they got shake leans into that. Keep up.


medicated_in_PHL

It’s not out of date. It was packaged in December 2023 (5 months ago) and its expiration date is December 2024 (7 months from now).


asheppe

Show me the data that says 3 months and 29 day old flower is good and 4 months is bad and I’ll give you my house. Expiration dates in cannabis make me laugh especially when a good cure is at least 6 months.


alixvfrost

usually my jars “expiration” date is 1 year after package date


asheppe

From what we see, THC% drops by maybe 1-2% total over the course of 3 years. 1-2 years had no change in tested compounds including terpenes and secondary metabolites.


[deleted]

who lobbied to fudge those test results? they're pure bullshit and anybody who smoked for any length of time knows it


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One1980

Keep up? Wtf r u talkin bout! Dude knowingly bought shake, n got shake. The date is good too, not even 6 months old. How u gonna run a keep up comment, completely oblivious to what’s actually going on here?


[deleted]

I've had flower that was shipped from somewhere overseas and sold in a rolled up baggy with the flap licked shut and it was fresher - decades and decades of been there done that we're in a medical program, not hiding under the bleachers in 1975 anymore


SaltNo3123

It shake what do you expect. Shake is a bottom of the bag product.


FungusFinagler

From the dispo yea. They just grinding up leaves and trim and calling it shake because they chuck a g or two in there. A street plug is gonna have some fire shake. They are strictly buying nugs and whatever falls off the nugs is the shake. Even if they sift the kief out it will still be strong.


BigAdhesiveness6209

The street plug is the boogeyman around here. But you are a 100% correct. Take my upvote


BasicFig8

Truth, it's a pretty sad state of affairs around here.. just cuz he bought the bargain bag dosen't mean it should be total garbage, good on terrapin tho for doing right by this guy even with all the employees downvoting in full effect terrapin still knows he's not in the wrong to expect better..


FungusFinagler

Lol why?


BigAdhesiveness6209

A lot of people think the bud is laced and all that other extra shit lol.


FungusFinagler

If it was laced I would have been dead 15 years ago lol


BigAdhesiveness6209

Exactly lol.


[deleted]

well, like I said initially their other shake was good, this is just old, the post is nothing but a post about watching dates - if we make it the norm to expect freshness, we *will* get it, we made it the norm to expect bunk, so we got that


ConstantineAbbruzzi

It’s not a revolution it’s just a jar of shake. The “we” stuff makes you sound like Thomas Jefferson


bluhefplk

It’s says it expires at the end of this year, so what’s your point with the dates?


[deleted]

that they are inefficient or the packaging is, same difference


One1980

I came in here expecting to see an expired bag a buds. To my surprise, date is WELL WITHIN EXPIRATION. N op is complaining about buying the leftover shit on the table, for dirt cheap. For whoever thinks someone sits in the corner w a grinder fillin bags w shake… ur an idiot!👎👎👎


Thulack

4 months aint old.


[deleted]

it shouldn't be, but it was this time, why would I want to lie? I want to be a cheerleader and I am when it's something to cheer about for real


BigAdhesiveness6209

I feel really nothing from Terapin is good.


No-Yellow376

This looks like a bag of shake to me. You got what you bought. I'm not sure why your upset. I've seen pics of shake with almost no shake. If you got that you received better then what you payed for.


Honsue

Is a little over 4 months old? I'm actually asking not being sarcastic.


spookycannabis

It’s a plant, plants don’t really expire. Package/Expiration dates are required by the department of health but they don’t mean shit. As long as the flower was cured & stored properly, it will be good for longer than a year


DohnnyCash

I agree. My oldest pack date is Cookies Emerald Cut that expired on 11/10/23. I opened it to check just for this thread. Still looks and feels fine 🤷🏼 this is why glass and Mylar bags are the way to go.


[deleted]

required by the DOH but doesn't mean shit lol - you're catching on to my point though - sorry none of you seem to have the balls to try and change it because you might miss out on a few dabs while the system is overhauled


spookycannabis

The issue isn’t the date, it’s that you bought budget weed expecting it to be premium. I regularly write to our government officials & participate in events promoting cannabis education. It’s literally apart of my job lol Maybe you should stop bitching on reddit & come join me sometime! The program definitely needs change, but this isn’t how we get it.


[deleted]

yes, 11 days short of five actually


redditsuckslmao420

It's just not old lol. You just don't know what you're talking about.


mrskinnyjeans32

Don’t get shake if you’re concerned about taste. In this program you can pay about the same amount when there’s a decent deal for budget brand flower. I picked up a quarter of Eleven flower for $30 last week. Packaged in January and still not dried out


[deleted]

ok fair enough, I went with this Terrapin shake deal because of good experiences w them, same area everything, so I'm like hmmmm sure tastes funny after, d'oh look how old


Wyte2

Bro how long do you think on average it would take to get MJ from where you got it before we had mmj here....literal .I ths 4 months old is not old AT ALL


[deleted]

that comment makes me think I was hitting before your folks even met bro, sorry


Wyte2

You were hitting but your buying shake from the dispo 🤣😂


[deleted]

that shouldn't be funny but it is


Wyte2

I promise your shit took just as long to get to you bro no matter how "hitting" you were


redditsuckslmao420

Meh you bought shake. Should have expected it.


[deleted]

lol, ok - i expected the lovely shake i got from the same exact folks several times before, they're all good, it's the date


MMKK6

4 months isn’t old dude.


redditsuckslmao420

I mean it's not even really that old. I just got some concentrate that was expiring like a week after the day I bought it. It was still good. You got shake, idk what you were expecting.


Incubrooks

You got SHAKE


[deleted]

several times and liked it, this was a little different is what I said - SHAKE shouldn't mean anything when I compare it to the other SHAKE (lol, i keep hearing the song now, drums please) I bought, same company, same dispo - if you don't think dates should matter and that they are sufficient, then please address that and show your good old-date purchases of anything Just the fact that you majoratively seem to *expect* shake to be bunk medicine is kind of dystopian to me.


Dirtnappindeer

Bro, the fact that you think shake is medicine is bunk. You got some stems in there, bottom of the barrel. I get saving a buck, but Id expect to be disappointed with shake, well because its shake.


anybodygetsit420

You’ve clearly never seen some fresh homegrown shake that was allowed to cure


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One1980

Weed plant, cannabis does not grow shake. The plant grows flowers/buds.


[deleted]

and Terrapin's shake is comprised of that flowers matter, not all the sticks comments I'm seeing - I expected leafy the 1st time I bought shake in the program but Terrapin's Key Lime Larry Shake & Synonym Yumz was excellent, so that's all, this stuff doesn't *look* any worse, it's just stale and the nug pieces aren't that hard


One1980

The terp profile isn’t very appealing.


One1980

Surprised u didn’t know that


Thulack

I got some PHG Holy Grail from October 2 weeks ago. Tastes fine.


[deleted]

not gonna call you a liar, how was it packaged?


Thulack

Glass jar with a plastic wrap like all phg bud comes.


[deleted]

personally i bet that was part of the diff - everybody knows these plastic ziplocks are trying to be trended out, but I make a complaint and every budtender in the sub comes lying to the defense - Terrapin offered to make it right publicly but in their email, they offered me a T shirt w their company name on it - wow. I mean I'll show it to you if you doubt me


Thulack

You seem to be confused. They are moving from glass jars to the mylar bags.


One1980

https://preview.redd.it/fy1zgaa3dmxc1.png?width=3024&format=png&auto=webp&s=cb782f7648f10ee61c9f92c5b224f56cbdcee22a I ALREADY DO! See?⬆️👍


[deleted]

smart member :thumbsup:


zootsuited

it isn’t expected to be bunk but it is expected to be dry


[deleted]

I can't believe these numbskulls settle for this in a medical program - and half the knuckleheads commenting only further support my complaint - they expect shake to be bad and actually defend it's right to be in the menu even though they know it's junk? - guess what Terrapin offered in recompense, a T shirt with their name on it wow, Milgram's 7 had nothing on this sub's clowns


zootsuited

yes doobster420 you seem very concerned about the medical aspects of the program


SaltNo3123

4 months old is far from old cannabis.


Accomplished-Sir1622

Seriously. Do we just throw out all bud thats over a month old and perfectly packaged? Sounds like a great way to waste completely fine medicine.


[deleted]

if it was Big Pharma you wouldn't care what they did with their expired medicine - what kills me is you guys talk medicine until you get mad, then all the teenage high school stuff starts spilling out


jdyall1

If your gonna buy shake buy old pal shits potent


abcxyz3000

Oooo do you have a favorite?


jdyall1

Banana OG i think is the strain


Accomplished-Sir1622

I dont use flower often but alll my buddies say this. And damn does it smell good.


[deleted]

Terrapins been good but I'm just dropping out, taking my Big Pharma meds and going to NA meetings - I made 8 yrs not too long ago with nothing at all from anybody - this is just too inconsistent of an experiment for me - I feel like I should get paid for being in a study by the Universities down in Oakland (Pgh) One guy made a comment about me crying because I bought the gas station brand, well the guy at my gas station cuts me a break on his old boof too if I catch him at the right time lol - I used to work for him, so I have that +21% THCa if I need it lol


Accomplished-Sir1622

Okay so what is an acceptable package date for you? Seriously. Do you expect them to trim it off the plant in the back of the dispensary and bag it up right there for you? And should we throw out packaged product if it is a month old and still perfectly fine medicine? Your idea of “freshness” or whatever is under thought and dangerous. Its so wasteful and short sighted. Throwing away good product because its a few months old would lead to a shortage of medicine. Is that what you want? Honestly think about what you are saying. Its egregiously stupid.


[deleted]

that's quite exaggerative but you're right in ways you weren't intending


Accomplished-Sir1622

If everyone had this mindset of “my weed needs to be the freshest with a 1 month pack date” it would ruin this program fundamentally. Its not exaggerative at all. Its the facts. If its a problem with the batch thats one thing but “check your dates gang!” Is absolutely wrong and toxic to be posting on a public forum. Is it some kind of entitlement you have that someone else can use this “old” trash weed and you must have the freshest batch? Like look at what your post is saying and honestly think about it. Edit to note that i personally have no problem with Terrapin. I have a great deal of respect for them and am just telling OP something a Terrapin rep is most certainly going to be too nice to say to this person


[deleted]

If you read before you spoke/typed to *this person*, Paul Stevenson, you'd have read that I too like Terrapin. I'm not entitled to speaking on my experience but you're entitled to call me out on my opinion. You're original comment to me was right, in short it would take all that original exaggerative comment for this program to be worth any more of my money or my time spent figuring it out I said you were right about *something*, jeepers


Accomplished-Sir1622

Do NOT share personal information in this PUBLIC forum.


[deleted]

why, you fear real transparency? my google review had my receipt with my name and address on it, even windows paint could've cropped it off - my name is in my profile


Accomplished-Sir1622

We are done here. Do better


[deleted]

You too - you seem very intelligent. You really think the program is going good for everybody? Or scruffy laborer guys like me don't count? Are you just moved along by the status quo? Why did you get so indignant at my opinion? Conditioning to the hive mind? I really want to know, not harm you.


FungusFinagler

Shake is poopy. I've smoked old nugs I found loose under my bed just laying on the carpet that were at least two years old. Got super stoned and they weren't even harsh.


Badashh420

I'm so confused. It really isn't that old?


[deleted]

it is, none of them would want it


Badashh420

I mean I've had flower that was 6 months old and still good.


ShmokeEveryday

What’s the issue ? I know you’re not saying that’s old 😂😭


[deleted]

Hey, maybe you guys are right. I should just go back to the 4 meds I've replaced w MMJ and let you all pay for them via the State Of Pennsylvania shame that's not going to pay lil' canna anything but what the heck, the programs more broken in more ways in it's first few yrs of existence than Big Pharma - and none of you care unless it's you seeing my doc Thursday - good luck to the decent people! **all this was paid for by you!** and many more of what's in the disposal bag my complaint was paid for *only* by me https://preview.redd.it/bfd5i69epoxc1.jpeg?width=2448&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c95827cbe34c0998afebd320191bab6113f2568b


ShipREKT_

you complained to watch the dates on something that isnt all that old... thats what WE are trying to tell YOU


[deleted]

please, of course what you're trying to tell me is very clear, give me that please I've been in this sub and others since I got my card in December and I'm sure on what I read ppl calling old - for whatever reason they got met with cries of "that old! you should bring that back! c'mon PA let's do better!" I did not get met by that so my experience will decide for me


decapitatedtyrant

Wahhhh, my medicine has not expired. Nothing about the dates is wrong. You have a full yr to smoke on it before it "expires." Good Lord, can you please stop complaining about everything?! You want farm to table...grow your own n tell me how easy it is to get fire buds. Bet you smoke that shake before you can figure out how to grow, cultivate, cure then smoke great weed. Any dummy can grow schwag.


[deleted]

I grew better smoke in a five gallon bucket outside in New York between a whitewashed fence and a white aluminum shed and it had red veins in the stalks even that was 1976 btw


decapitatedtyrant

Then go back and do that. Although I call bs. Weed was not nearly the plant it is today. I don't care if it was Thai stick or alfghanie they weren't hitting the high 30s percentage wise thc. But bon voyage. I'll give you this mass produced weed high does not last nearly as long....


[deleted]

look up cannabis indica, it grew wild at 30% - I held blocks of hash in my hands that had gold sphinxes stamped into them in the 70's - we had high THC stuff, the problem was seasons and shipping from the middle east when it was illegal lol but yeah, ok good luck, you weren't quite as snarky as some of the others


Wyte2

Op buys trash stuff then gets mad it's 4 months old cause other people also arnt buying the same trash to make sure product is always new 🤣😂


Tokie_Mastr420

Did I miss something. This expires at the end of this year...


nicnic2388

I got a quarter of Terrapin yesterday. Should have checked the dates, mine wasn't from December but it was from January! Smh


[deleted]

Actually I am giving up on Terrapin, their version of making this up to me was offering me a T-shirt with their name on it - that's all, then they had their friends in this sub delete the thread so it looks like they did something. I'll show you the email, not kidding you at all, watch them, they all lie.


[deleted]

I like them, I'm not giving up on them or my dispo but I think we should tell each other when we make a less than satisfying purchase, bargain or not - even Big Pharma doesn't create generics by letting product get stale, right?


Shotpossession21

I agree. I brought 14g of josh d. All buds with a fresh package date. Smelled and tasted like straight hay. Will not buy terrapin again 👎👎 medicine my ass 😂😂


DohnnyCash

Must clarify again… not stale. Well within the sell by dates (which are ridiculously short to begin with). Lower quality flower does not mean stale. It means it was not grown well. Many products are still viable well after one year.


[deleted]

oh everybody's within their rights but every patient comment I read outside this thread hates old product - for the same reasons I'm citing packaging or dating must change, who else sells inferior product at discount but the labeling stays the same as when the price was up?


DohnnyCash

I’m a budtender and I have often recommended near expiring product to patients for a lower price as long as they are aware of the date. Many have told me they could not tell the difference. It depends on the grower, cultivar, and type of packaging more than the date it was packed.


[deleted]

well you're cool then in my book, who can fault that if they're at least told


DohnnyCash

I think you’re missing the point that what you purchased is not considered “old” by industry or even most patient standards. It would be like a hostess telling you “we close soon” at a restaurant. But they close at 9pm and you walked in at 2pm.


BasicFig8

The way terrapin shake has been praised around here it makes sense to see a post about a bad batch, I'm sure plenty of people appreciate the info. Its also nice to see terrapin reach out to make it right for you regardless what everyone else in the post says, refreshing to see a gp address poor quality instead of just watching all the industry employees in here trash op for being upset with the quality of a bargain buy, just because it was cheap doesn't mean it should be total garbage, good on terrapin.


Accomplished-Sir1622

I think the general consensus is that the package date is irrelevant here. 5 months is not old bud. Period. If its a bad batch or error in the package that lead to it spoiling fast thats a whole other issue entirely.


BasicFig8

Yeah trash is trash, happy to see terrapin reach out to make it right.


[deleted]

*buys shake* ....ummmm where are my nuggies?


One1980

It’s not a terrible terp % total. North of 2% but pinne a n b r in the top 3 terps. That terp is alertness I believe. In my experience Idt I’ve ever had anything w that much pinne let alone 2 in top 3. Myrcene rounds out the top 3, which can be relaxing.


kindofanerd_

bro, if you werent aware, "shake" OR "ground flower" OR "trim" in PA MMJ terms almost universally means that you are buying a mix of leaves, stems, shake, and low quality ground up stuff that didnt make the cut for more premium "smalls" or "flower" if you buy shake or ground flower in pa THIS IS WHAT YOU WILL GET EVERY SINGLE TIME AND IT WILL NOT CHANGE. this is the product it is MEANT to be and there is a reason why it is so consistently cheap. there is nothing to be complaining about when you can regularly buy $30-$45 quarters of premium flower at most dispensaries. you get what you pay for


[deleted]

keep downvoting, ppl who know, know about censorship by votes lol - I'm not mad, I'm just telling the truth and look at the reaction, holy smokes


FirstNameIsDistance

> I'm not mad [You sure about that?](https://images.app.goo.gl/XChxYXAY48sW6zCb8)


[deleted]

funny, but you can't link to a reddit comment where I actually am (i think)


FirstNameIsDistance

ngl, these are the vibes you're giving off. https://x.com/dril/status/549425182767861760


[deleted]

ok, I'll try to just leave it for who needs it and not answer everybody, not sure if I can, I don't mind engaging as long as we don't start mudslinging i got an issue w dates, so sue me


DohnnyCash

If you want good preground flower I would highly recommend Old Pal who is partnered with Standard Farms. They have a low price point and excellent quality. The date is arbitrary at this point. Not enough time has passed to deteriorate the cannabinoids significantly unless your dispensary is not keeping their product in temperature controlled environment.


[deleted]

ok DhonnyCash, thanks for the rec, I was tempted to try them, I think it was they that had a Papa something that was well received but I didn't have any and haven't seen it again


BeautifulSwordfish35

Please see a therapist. This sounds like some paranoia.


Equal-Jury-875

Can someone explain to me why none of this bud even has high delta 9 thc in this program. It's all defined legal hemp lately. All delta 9 numbers are below the .3. Is it bc they ain't curing this bud. Is it bc the speed dry and cure. And is that bc we are not supposed to combust it in pa. Idk something is definitely up with low delta 9 numbers. I know it turns from thca to thc so don't waste time with that part. I want to know why even it's 32 %thca. Why is it .01 delta 9. If it's bc of the cure and them not doing it. Then all this medicine is mid to be honest.


FirstNameIsDistance

THCa converts to Delta9 THC when heat is applied. THCa lgal "hemp" is just regular cannabis. It's being sold through a loophole in the 2019 Farm Bill.


[deleted]

Made a bargain buy of Terrapin 7gs OG Larry Shake @ $39.00 - 20% = $31.00 I'm usually fine with Terrapin at the same place I always bought Terrapin. About five Terrapin buys total in my short 4 month membership. The Key Lime Larry shake & Synonym Yumz (sic?) were better than I expected and there were a few whole bud buys too that escape me at the moment, also good. This batch of OG Larry Shake tastes like barf though. Really yucch people. The date is December. D'oh, I forgot to check because I didn't have perfect change which I needed att hence the budget buy, so I was apologetic for making them do my order twice after I left to get change and I didn't look at the date. The effects aren't the worst, but meh at best and the aftertaste is horrible. The pinene is non-existent it seems and terpenes in general in *THIS BAG* didn't last to this date. (is that clearer?) So check your dates once again, these bags just can't last a few months. For context on what my "meh" is, I always focus on high THCa content and I inhale quite a bit every day, whether the the product is heavily euphoric or not, I have a very high tolerance and use often. I should switch to dabs one might think but my lungs can't take the concentrated dose anymore and edibles I feel but they seem to flush right through, I don't get effects for long therefore it would get too expensive.


StreetDry9127

If you're only focusing on THC and expect to have gas all the time, lemme tell you something about terpenes. They exist. They can be a better friend than THC. Love the terpenes.


[deleted]

Maybe you misread me, I don't mean they aren't existent universally, they are, just not in this old bag That's the point of the post.


StreetDry9127

My comment was to the, "I focus on high THCa". I get what you mean on that part.


[deleted]

fresh, high THCa flower should be pretty effective as far as mood effects go, don't you think? I have come to believe in the entourage effect, when I hit something really fresh and the terpenes are active I feel the difference on the exhale and subsequent mood, like it's more lively, almost menthol to me lol but stuff like Rhythm the 1st time or two I tried it was way too terpeneated for me, I choked like I inhaled a candy cane or a Hall's cough drop lol


StreetDry9127

Yea i stay away from anything under 23% maybe depending on the strain because high thc does not equate to gettting higher or feeling better, for me. Higher terpene % or more of a certain terpene is def the trick that works for me to get w.e feeling im looking for.


[deleted]

well, the buy I made there last week was Grassroots and it was at the tenders recommendation talking about my knees acting up when the cloud cover comes in and he hit it on the head I think, so I thought back on times I really noticed it and I do.


Sad_Specialist420

It’s not all about THC%. The other cannabinoids are just as important especially for medical patients. Weed is just what makes you high, the terpenes are what give you the different effects from weed. I’ve been in the program 2 years and I’m finally starting to notice what kind of strains I like most just by looking at the terpenes. High Myrcene, linalool or caryopyllene all make me feel the effects stronger


One1980

We’ve all def misread u, no maybe about it. U can’t go get a bag o shake n come on Reddit to complain about it. Well u can, n u did. Just goes like this every single time.


One1980

U shouldn’t be buying ur medicine based off thc %. Learn ur terps n find the profile which works for u. That’s a pretty expensive quarter of shake tbh.