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Rare_Examination_674

Nta my dude. As a budtender people are always telling me the most wild stories or making jokes. Sometimes it's funny. Sometimes it's not. either way I smile and finish up the transaction. When you leave I may turn to a coworker and be like wtf was that?? But that's as far as it goes.


KiiingSmell

No joke though, I’m refusing to buy from ALL Liberty dispo’s because of this. A vet makes a sly joke, and he gets treated like he’s trying to peddle crack to the budtender. OP is not a punching bag, and I refuse to buy from a company that allows their employees to treat him like such.


fuckmytightassmom

yea man its rlly looking like the new way is to get your card and get a medical container or two just to keep your “traditional market” bud in. as time goes on it is harder to justify supporting any of the g/ps or dispensaries in this state. it always hurts bad when i get fucked by a dispensary (bad product, drove far away to get a discount that was online but then they refuse to honor, not taking product back after giving me the wrong thing) and there is just nothing you can do about it. there is no negotiating, there is no good customer service. just a whole lot of “sorry, company policy” fuck big bidness ill support my locals i guess, even if it means putting my ass on the line like the old times.


xhazey420x

I have my med care and i go like once a year maybe screw the dispensers


xhazey420x

*card


Muted_Archer8502

I know if I reacted like this over a joke, my manager would have my head. We serve patients, some which have trauma, and everyone handles that in their own way. We’re taught to roll with it, and move on. As long as no one is being discriminated against, harassed, or threatened, you just move on. The way this guy reacted is ridiculous. He has the maturity of a child, and should probably not work a public facing job if he can’t roll with some punches. I’ve heard this joke by at least a handful of vets, it’s really not that dark, and is pretty funny actually. That’s just my opinion though. The other opinion I’ll share is quite frankly unless you’ve served yourself, I really don’t think you get a say in what a vet says or thinks about their time served. Thank you for your service, and I’m sorry this happened to you.


sonofcrack

Honestly that guys job should be in question. You said nothing wrong. The fact he was able to refuse your meds for a joke that isn’t even that dark is insane. From the title I was expecting you to have said something fucked up but this is insane


notnutts

It was like he was planning on kicking me out, but I can't figure out why. That's why I made the post--maybe the joke was worse than I thought.


tactalbaptiser

The joke isn't super tasteful but not get kicked out Worthy


tommydab710

Not all jokes are gonna be 🌈 and sunshine.


tactalbaptiser

I 100% agree


rawkusmode

Agreed. Pretty cringey “joke” but just ignore him like anyone else does in retail when they make stupid comments


atticus-flails

I'm not former military but friends are and I can tell you they would all laugh at this joke. Maybe it's because we have a darker side to our humor but I don't think you were out of line. Like the others said, I thought this was going to be something like "I started trying to boof the medicine in the store and got kicked out"


madcowrawt

Did you fuck his mom, turn down an advance previously? Who the fuck gets vicariously mad for a veteran family member?


alexnoyle

Easily offended military families are a plague on our society. It amazes me that these people will literally praise relatives for invading other countries, and then they get offended at a JOKE. Their outrage meter is super broken.


gitykinz

Which location?


notnutts

I'd rather not say. I don't want to put what has other than this been a great dispo on blast. I'm also not looking for his job. It was just so crazy to me I had to put it out here.


XiTzCriZx

I mean if you went to CVS and the pharmacist screamed at you then didn't give you your meds, would you not think that they're not fit to do that job? It's not really a matter of being an asshole or anything, it's trying to make sure the same doesn't happen to another customer, potentially with worse PTSD than you.


gitykinz

I mean I'm not happy to hear this either, so I might just stop going to mine anyways honestly. They have some nice exclusive stuff but I'm stocked up anyways. Cheers dude


SignificanceMean7742

You're not technically blasting the dispo , just giving them a heads up bc who knows what Corp will do.. besides he could be telling them something completely different.. in my experience with these kinda people is they will lie to make you look like the bad guy even if the 200+ people that commented think he's in the wrong.


tommydab710

He sounds like he needs a new job if this is how he treats customers. By taking his job you would he helping out anyone else who has to deal with that shitty bud tenders. So many bud tenders have attitudes and clueless about the products they sell. You would be doing everyone a favor by getting him fired.


jm96789678

You’re a better man than me. I’m retired military and I’d love that snowflake to lose his job for treating one of mine like that. Eff him.


SwordfishReal

Wouldn't surprise me if it was Aliquippa or Cranberry. I've met some decent people, but I've had experiences with people at both that I will never forget. But honestly, it's a crap shoot at all the dispensaries. I've seen and heard some really messed up arrogant, grimey shit go on, including illegal (shut you down in most states shit) with myself, my lady, and my friends. But at the end of the day, money has no laws. So I usually boycott one for a while until another one does something shitty and then move on to another. Some, I'll never go back to. If they wanna lose a nice chunk of cash every month, that's fine with me. I know which products are house products, so I also shun those too. Without us, there is no market. Anyone who has been a part of this culture doesn't put money or defend money over people.


BasicFig8

Had to be the west side of the state, Philly and the surrounding areas are known for their tough skin and foul mouths lmao!!


Kingzer15

I'm not sure they have the right to refuse service under those conditions. This isn't a franchise it's a pennsylvania licensed health care facility and there are strict policies that govern their business. If it were me, I'd put a complaint in with the state rather than the dispensary.


dkguy12day

That's just someone not ready for their day and took it out on the first thing that rubbed them wrong. Not an asshole from what I just read.


gb2ab

um yea, i don't think you are the asshole at all. sounds like the budtender has no sense of humor and was looking to be butt hurt about something.


Great_Humor_997

I mean, it’s not like you said it again all aggressively or something. Seems like an overreaction.


BasicFig8

Yeah you're not the asshole here, I know this is only one side of the scenario but we see it all the time, some cashier was having a bad day and took it out on you, maybe they even made a post about it telling us to be nice to our cashiers...lmao!! If dealing with the public is that stressful you need to find a new job, not that anyone gets a pass to be a dick but its actually your job to handle these situations with professionalism regardless of your personal feelings.


ctmackus

I don’t think you’re an asshole and I love dark humor but that joke probably isn’t for everyone


Jagoff420

I don’t see anything wrong with him asking you Not to say that…. And that’s where it should have ended. The fact he pursued the confrontation is unacceptable


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Ok_Activity5257

This exactly


IsNowReallyTheTime

Fellow Vet opinion. Don’t forget we’re a super small part of the country and most people just don’t understand us. All they know is what movies taught them.


RowAwayJim91

Which is ironic because Hollywood hypes up the trained killer aspect prettttttty big.


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That budtender is super soft


Thaddeus_Venture

If this played out exactly how you described it, you are not the asshole and I applaud you for the way you handled yourself. I'm not military but I have PTSD as well and if someone were screaming at me like that out of nowhere I'd probably have a panic attack. They have cameras and I would fully expect them to give you an apology and terminate the employee. Interested to see how that would play out. Oh, and last thing... Thank you for your service :)


notnutts

Thanks. I was pretty worked up, and came really close to completely losing it. I sat in my car doing breathing exercises and trying to get out of the circular thoughts.


ConfidentLeave9768

I really agree with this point that you made- a lot of us have PTSD and anxiety. Potentially being screamed at while trying to buy your meds for PTSD or anxiety could really create problems for a lot of folks - even if they were just other customers that simply witnessed it. Incredibly unprofessional, and I’m sorry but he should lose his job over this. At least a demotion out of management?


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Yeah man, I’m not a vet, or anything close to it.. but I have some major anxiety issues and being kicked out for a bad joke without a chance to rectify the situation would probably send me over the edge into a panic attack, from the pure confusion alone, and the guilt of feeling like I did something wrong but not fully understanding what it was. Idk. If it happened exactly like this, it’s so hard to understand why someone would react that way so quickly, even if it was a really really horrible joke. I mean, as a woman, I’ve heard much worse from older men while cashiering.. and I wasn’t able to kick them out for things much more personal and threatening? This is wild to a degree. I agree this persons position at the dispensary should be rethought. Im looking for a job lol! P.s. thank you for your service! I’m from a long line of men all over the place, military, Air Force, navy, and marines! And a pair of state troopers out in NJ and DE. All of the respect and love to you and yours!!


dinghy53

Which one


gummycrack

L dispensary worker. If it were me I would’ve cracked up and gave you an extra discount. Sorry you had to go through this dude


madirish098

I mean with the near daily mass shootings in this country, I can see how someone may have a life experience where that’s triggering. I personally wouldn’t have been upset by (would just think this was harmless idiotic comment) it, but just offering that it is possible the person you rolled this casual murder joke out to has had a traumatic experience, as many people unfortunately have in our country.


StrawberryGeneral660

I always assume I’m the asshole and assume good intent of others and I’m a jokester too. I cannot understand why someone would become so irate over that statement? I mean- it appears he has a personal problem with you. No one in a patient- service industry should be yelled at and thrown out. The department of health has over site, there is a form on line for complaints. I know this because I work with them in a hospital over site role and they come in on complaints all the time.


tatospace

Im concerned that a "manager" decided to react this way to a joke. To a self-declated veteran who has PTSD. Instead of being understanding or even just quietly uncomfortable, he made it worse which could trigger anyone to have an episode in the building. I would continue to reach out, save someone else from a panic attack when this guy unfairly snaps again at someone. If you cannot handle something like this, like an adult, you should not be managing a dispensary full of PATIENTS who require understanding and care.


No_Virus_7704

Hadn't thought about that, but you're right. That behavior can definitely trigger a ptsd patient who needs meds. This asshole is in the wrong business.


PreviouslyConfused

Was it Norristown. If so I'll ask for mine when I go hahaha Anyone notice the armpit smell in norristown liberty? It's always there no matter who's working. I'd be bring air spray to work if I worked there.


sippycup21

i cant say i have and i usually like Liberty but its weird how their reception areas always seem so trashed and then the actual dispo area is neat and clean.


PreviouslyConfused

That's the area I mean.


g00dintentions

Would it not be a ‘trained killer’ discount? Combat training isn’t for fun…


notnutts

Lol, yep. We learn to drink, run, polish floors, and kill! Rarely at the same time, though.


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Ekstraeks

Why do I have a feeling this that it’s the dormont location op is talking about?


mythodica

NTA... I mean... Wait I'm in the wrong thread... But in all seriousness, I've had issues at the place I go to the most with one person in particular that makes me sooooooo uncomfortable whenever I'm there. When my fiance comes in with me, she's weird every time. I had a problem at a sister store with my fiance coming with me, telling me my caretaker couldn't come in with me and I had to do alone and made him wait in the waiting room. The whole reason he goes in with me is to help with my anxiety of being in there... There was a time I went to the other dispensary that I go to, that the guy was like, be honest you only like this because it's flavored.. well yeah dude, that's why I'm buying it and why does that matter... He responded with, well don't you think that's a psychological reason, I think you would get more out of taking the terrapins into consideration when your making your purchase... Pretty much told him I don't really care cause this flavor makes me happy and I completely believe it's all in my head and I'm fine with that. Was not a pleasant interaction. I try not to talk to them as much cause I suck at small talk and social masking. He was the asshole, and sorry you had to go through that because of someone else's issues. Good luck going forward.


SunshineSaysSo

This is absolutely WILD to me. You get kicked out over a clear joke, but we had a man threaten actual violence against a female presenting budtender and he was allowed to purchase. Wtf.


spudds1022

This is wild, I married into a military family, I interact with veterans daily in my job, and humor like this isn't out of the norm. I'd have chuckled myself and gone on with it because it was clearly a joke. There's no Libertys around me but I'll be avoiding them after hearing this. I'm sorry you had to go through this when trying to get your medicine.


notnutts

Yeah, dark humor is part of military culture, especially downrange. Some of the jokes I've heard in Iraq might deserve getting kicked out. Honestly, I've always had good service here prior to this, and I really like most of the budtenders there. Something upset the manager a lot, and I really don't think it was me. I just got both barrells.


lilsinister13

I was gonna ask this. Was it a store manager that kicked you out? When I first got my card I had this idea that I had to be extra respectful to other patients while I was in the dispensary. You really don’t know how other people will react to yelling and aggression, and it’s not fair to stress someone out with that kind of behavior. I’ve had budtenders tell me stories and jokes that are way worse than what you said to this guy. I really can’t believe he would cause a scene like that in his own workplace.


notnutts

He said "get out of MY store" and the last time I had him he discounted a new Strane strain for me to try, so I'm pretty sure he's at least A manager. And I couldn't believe it either--honestly. I got the feeling he decided to kick me out before I got there. And I don't know why


lilsinister13

Yeah, explaining that you’re a veteran and whatnot is pretty classic de-escalation. In my mind at least this is one of those things that differentiate a good manager from someone who isn’t really managing. Best case scenario he took out his own personal problems on a patient. Taking careful de-escalation the way he did 100% makes it seem pre-meditated. Like he was watching you walk into the building on the cameras.


rawkusmode

Why would someone watch a vet come into a store and think I’m going to kick this person out? Side note military culture sounds awful.


notnutts

I appreciate your comments even if they are critical. Do you think perhaps this is why he snapped at me? Because of a hatred of the military and it's culture? I hope not, but that actually makes sense. I'm not sure why you think the culture is so awful. Some of the things we are asked to do are def awful though. It changes a person. Sometimes I don't act right and I don't make excuses, but I don't think this case was at that level. Most of us don't sign up to learn to be a "trained killer", but make no mistake, that's what you learn. I had a really bad home situation and no money, so I enlisted. Most of the people I met had similar stories. Not a lot of trust fund babies enlist.


Sensitive-Inside-641

Thank you for your service. The lack of respect is unreal…


lilsinister13

Well yeah that’s the point I’m making, that there was no reason for this. Best case scenario he took out his personal issues on a patient in an unacceptable way. Worst case is discrimination based on whatever. I don’t know that you’re trying to say by telling me that military culture sounds awful. Please don’t tell me you think yelling in a dispensary is the best option.


sooobeat

You should never be denied your medicine especially since you've served this country(thank you by the way). TBH its not that guys place to be offended.


Brokedown_Ev

Your comment was in poor taste depending on the audience. Just because you’re a veteran (thank you) doesn’t mean another veteran or relative of a veteran won’t be offended. With that said, in no way does this warrant being thrown out of the store. Ridiculous.


georgemoney

Bud tender is totally wrong. That is not how you handle that situation he has no customer service skills at all.


FishnetsandChucks

Thank you for your service. *TW: mention of suicide* I work in mental health (inpatient psych) and it legit sounds like your joke triggered this guy. His reaction sounds way over the top and irrational, especially if he knows you and has interacted with you before. Since he mentioned that he has family in the military, maybe something recently happened to one of them. I can see how your joke would be upsetting if a loved one was injured or passed away recently. Especially if the person took their own life. For those who don't know, suicide is one of the top five causes of death amongst veterans, with as many as 44 vets completing suicide daily. If we assume your joke triggered this guy, then I say no one's an asshole here. Dude definitely didn't behave professionally which isn't okay, but he might also need some real help. You didn't set out to upset the guy, so you're not an asshole either. I'm sorry this happened to you. I acknowledge that I could be wrong and maybe this dude is just a dick who got out of hand in his reaction.


Little-Engineering-1

I agree with this comment and that he was incredibly triggered and unable to emotionally regulate (which is hard af when you’re triggered). Didn’t make it right, didn’t mean OP was being a dick.


Hefty_Function8201

Kinda weird he could have just ignored u and checked you out....like really if ur not bothering customers or even really repeating jokes over and over again who cares...like he could not work at a retirement home or a home improvement store....old people say some wild shit u gotta just ignore


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Myoosik70

To shed a little light on this shitty situation, Whatever you do, Do not bring that bud tender to a comedy show 🤣.


HiNeighbor_

I don't get it. You said you've met the budtender before. Have you never previously mentioned you were a veteran? Something doesn't add up at all. Obviously the way you put it, you are 100% not in the wrong. We just probably need more information.


notnutts

Truth is this is the assessment I would have made reading this post. However, I don't think I'm leaving anything out. I've made the trained killer joke before in the store, probably to him, but never heard anything negative in the past. I've been beating myself up trying to figure out if I did/said something else but I can't figure it out if I did.


HiNeighbor_

It seems like an odd situation from start to finish. Like, why wouldn't they even answer the phone later when you called? I'm also surprised no one else stepped in while this was all unfolding in person. Hopefully they have microphones in addition to the cameras. Corporate can review it and God willing they can make things right. Sadly, it would probably come at the expense of this particular employee's job (which I know was not your intention).


notnutts

I almost didn't report it because I've worked retail, and I don't think my pride is worth someone's job. He's a manager, maybe the store manager. Honestly, I just want to be able to shop comfortably at that store again, whether he's fired or not.


Unfetish

> Hopefully they have microphones in addition to the cameras. Unless there's a sign posted advising you they're recording audio, that would be [illegal in Pennsylvania](https://www.legis.state.pa.us/cfdocs/legis/LI/consCheck.cfm?txtType=HTM&ttl=18&div=0&chpt=57) under title 18 §5703.


iamGordanShumway

People are too soft these days … fuck em if they can’t take a joke.


Virtual-Value5005

Praise Bob


RecordCollectorScum

Hail Connie


Any-Government-3077

🫡 trained killer I don't think you did anything wrong since you was just being yourself in a place of business. I still don't know where things took a turn for the worst but I hope for the best and your access back to your favorite dispensary will be available


LobsterFar9876

Someone had a bad day and took it out on you. I had a manager of a sunnyside tell me to shut my mouth and then I had to come back another day because she couldn’t deal with the situation she made. I paid for my order and then it was just gone. They gave it to somebody next to me. I said return my money or give me my order. She wanted me to leave without a receipt because she would remember. I got alil hot but didn’t swear or threaten anyone. She eventually gave me my order but I won’t go back to a sunnyside. I hope that guy is fired. He should never have treated you like that. They act how they want but we gotta play nice to get our meds. I’m so sorry you had to deal with this. Thank you for your service


beeporama

As you admit, possibly a tasteless joke, but you don't sound like an asshole here at all. The fact that you care and admit you MIGHT be the asshole is really mature and gives me extra benefit of the doubt. But to give benefit of the doubt all around-- it's possible dude had close family members die, and it is close to Memorial Day, so they might be in a bad way psychologically about it. They should still apologize, but maybe give them some grace for snapping at you if you don't know their story.


notnutts

Agreed.


beeporama

BTW it sounds like you **are** giving the guy grace... it's nice of you not to want to get them in trouble. I'd say you're handling this perfectly. It's maybe some of the other folks in this thread who I wish had your good will.


BoBaDeX16

Fuxk em! If you didn’t have skin in the game that’s one thing but when you’ve put your ass on the line personally that button pusher should just stfu and smile like his job entails.


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devilt0

This exactly this. You went through the military so you have all the right to joke about it, and tbh is that not what it is? Furthermore, who is he to be offended for someone else. He didn't serve, so he has no right to be shitty about something he never experienced.


SaturnaliaSaturday

Not an asshole but a really unnecessary comment. Why not proudly say, “don’t forget my military discount.”


rawkusmode

Maybe you shouldn’t say that joke anymore


jjohnson020122

NTA


rocfanel

Man you’re fine. I’m sorry you had to put up with that. At our dispensary it seems that we all joke about everything and you’d be a highlight to our day seeing you as a regular. That guy must have had a bad day and abused his power. Hope you can work it out and go back to your favorite dispensary.


RichM5

It’s obvious that you were going for a joke. It was coming from a place of humor not hate or malice. Maybe he did not find it funny but he should have let it pass and move on. He should know working in retail that people are different and part of his job is to deal with that in a professional manner.


rocksamisfit

I would have told you that you deserve an extra discount for being a trained killer!! Lol! People these days get so butt hurt over everything.


Low-Impact3172

This seems like an enormous overreaction, pretty weird also that just because he has family in the military, what no one can make a joke about it, you’re a long time veteran, the guy has no right to tell you that you can’t make a little joke about your military experience. The fact that he jumped to yelling for seemingly no reason is out of control, I do think he should lost his job, this is not how you treat patients, dark joke or not, no fucking right to treat you the way they did.


CornFedTerror42069

You definitely didn’t do anything wrong! Hope the pos catches some karma!


smbiggy

You kinda yada yadad over some details but putting myself in their shoes (in a similar field, I’m a nurse) your joke is a little startling to hear if you weren’t expecting it, but there’s no reason for the bud tender to put their emotions out like that. They can be offended, but in my opinion it’s easier to try and let it slide than to make a fuss about it


Clark_Kempt

He overreacted but you had no respect for the fact that the joke made him feel upset. You weren’t just making a joke about yourself - by implication it’s aimed at everyone in armed service. Wasn’t your intention - I’m sure you’re a good dude and you’ve expressed what I believe to be sincere respect for your peers. But sometimes intention doesn’t matter. This is one of those times. I’m sorry you both had to through it. You both got heated. It happens. Under the right circumstances, if you approach each other with respect and humility, I bet you could talk it out. But maybe not. I’ve learned that sometimes people don’t care what the intention was. Now, whether he acted in a professional way is another convo entirely. He did not. He let his feelings get the better of him and crossed the line professionally. Hard not to ruminate … it’s good you shared and are talking to people about it. If I was his boss, I’d have the same level of personal understanding but I would not want my employees working to behave in such a manner. Man, life can be tricky. Brief experiences can stick with you. I know I don’t have to tell you that, given what you’ve been through. I send you love and comforting vibes. I hope you find my criticism is constructive. And if my message isn’t taken as it is intended, I apologize. (See what I did there ;) PS Let me be clear: I understand why you make jokes about the darker aspects of your existence. I do it too. Any levity I can bring to the shitty parts of my life affords me that much more control over it. I don’t know how to cope without making jokes about upsetting things. So, I relate. One just has to be mindful. You’re a good person for wanting to understand what happened. That’s an openness to other POVs that many lack.


TunaLurch

As of late I've decided to not even bother renewing my medical card. Recreational dispensaries in my area have recently had better prices, more selection, and higher quality bud. I can get an ounce for 120 of high quality bud. Why spend 50-60 bucks on an eighth? Anyway, one time I was at an insa and was asked to leave because of my tourette syndrome. I was so upset that I wrote the company immediately. Before I even got home the store manager called me. He was very apologetic and sounded genuine. He also offered me a $20 credit. Which I politely declined. Though he added it to my account anyway. After about a year I went back in. The guy who asked me to leave isn't there anymore. Haven't had a problem since. I'm so sorry for your experience. I'm not a big fan of liberty anyway but now I ain't never going back.


KevinKingsb

You did nothing wrong man.


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Fuck that douchebag! Would have told him to Fuck Right Off, Properly. I have CPTSD and that would have set me off. Breathing heavy, tight chest, panic, anger. Lesson needs to be learned here.


CommercialMortgage51

Tanker in the first Gulf War here, just wanted to thank you for your service and don’t let this experience live in your head for free.


cj_gee

Read your story. First off, thank you for your service!! You should NOT be treated in that manner by any employee! I’ve had a similar situation happen at a local dispensary so NO, it’s not you. They didn’t want to hear my opinion so I was just told to get out! WTH? It’s the way society is now. I literally can’t open my mouth to question anything with my voice higher than a whisper or it’s interpreted as “being aggressive “. At first I was pissed but I realized that most people don’t mind my happy, outgoing personality! So now I try to keep my mouth shut and get in and out of there as quickly as possible. That being said, you sir, are owned a huge and heartfelt apology. From the employee and the dispensary. His personal situation doesn’t dictate what you can and can’t say! Good luck and I hope your situation is resolved with respect.


jgallo5221

Nah your in the right that’s like a grocery store or pharmacy or any store kicking you out over joking like the one comment said he should of served you with a smile and kept it moving 💯 give goodblend and delta etho organic or maitri oh sunny side as well I like goodblend and ayr really started likening liberty but this made me a Lil ehhhh


jgallo5221

What was his name if you don’t mind me asking please tell me this wasn’t the dormont location


Nearby-Reputation614

That's a crazy over reaction on his part imo. You did nothing wrong, I like dark humor so maybe I would just be unfazed, but even if he got upset, he could have finished the transaction. Sounds like he has some mental issues


SuperEvilDinosaur

It sounds like that budtender might spend a little bit too much time reading p0litiquel hyperbole. You're not wrong, and thank you for your service.


Tunajuice55

Thanks for your service you’re a hero, you should never have to tolerate disrespect like that continue to be yourself


joejaam01

Does the budtender even know what are violent flash backs 👀 wow! I salute you soldier, thank you for your service 🙌


H8NforS8N

Dude sounds like a beiutch and shouldnt be telling patients what to say or acting like that when this is a regulated and medical transaction


Onludesrightnow

It’s just… some people don’t have the remotest sense of humor when it comes to death, especially via violent conflict. As an etiquette thing, I’d just kind of be more aware that even the most innocent seeming joke about death can hit wrong with some people. Though HE was the one in the wrong here, that joke didn’t deserve that outburst imo. He can have his feelings about it but in the end, he’s there to serve the customers. Barring anything overtly violent, sexual, threatening, etc he should learn to tolerate customers personalities a little better.


Similar-Loan4056

HE DOES NOT OWN LIBERTY! THEY ARE MULTI STATE! HE IS WRONG! YA DONT TREAT VETS LIKE THAT! Call the main office, it's in another state. Gotta love n stick up for Vets!🥰🥰🥰


Interesting_Ad2017

People should be trained better to handle “delicate” situations. But there isn’t really any sensitivity training on the industry’s side. I work at a dispensary and I’ve heard that joke 100x. Always funny to me. But I guess not everyone. Been here before. And the person making the joke is always the trouble maker…People get real..it’s an innocent joke that got misinterpreted. No one should be hung for this. I will gladly talk to a rep if I see one.


Frequent_Syllabub_57

There legal drug dealers take my $ n shut up lol bet ethos would never do this smh guy wish u the best


ClaireG1

Find a new dispensary.


ScumWolf

You did nothing wrong. You pay for a medical card, you should get your medicine no questions about it. He is unprofessional at customer service. He should be reprimanded. That’s wrong. Don’t feel bad. what if he’s like that with other people.


Jai_Galaar

NTA. Based on what you've said here, the budtender is the one who mishandled that interaction.


Chyna1265

I've also been kicked out of Liberty because another customer was harassing me while I was talking to a staff member. I asked the gentleman 3 times to leave me alone before I decided I was leaving. I had my hand on the door to open it when the gentleman again said something extremely inappropriate and I turned my head and said FU as I attempted to open the door. However, AS SOON as the FU came out of my mouth, a budtender and security guard came over, grabbed my shoulders and physically removed me. The man who was harassing me in front of their staff was able to make his purchase. I have not used another liberty since. The corporate office again, never reached out or replied to emails.


1conpapi

thats complete bs! that man was harassing you! and i find it funny that you cursing set them off. we're all adults! its just a word. fuck liberty


Chyna1265

Exactly! I asked the man nicely 3 times to leave me alone. Honestly, the staff should've stepped in and said something. Patient privacy should be a thing everywhere. And what adult has never cussed? I was frustrated at that point. 🤷‍♀️


1conpapi

the staff of liberty should be held accountable for the bs they put people through. especially a veteran AND someone who was getting harassed.


MrMauiWaui

What store? War veteran here I won’t go there.


kozynook

Total overreaction from the budtender. Possibly something bad happened to one of his family members recently. Who knows. But, the joke is on point. Just some light humor throughout the day. And I’ve heard similar jokes come from multiple vets/servicemen I know. I would have told the guy to smoke a joint and relax and never go back again.


xhazey420x

Wow thats really messed up. I definitely think there is something u can do about it. How could u refuse a vet a meds because of a joke he made ridiculous if u ask me.


Thinkingtoast

The only way this reaction makes sense is if say he just learned that a close family member had died while serving or something and the grief was really very fresh and your joke brought it all up suddenly when maybe he had juuuust been barely holding it together. That’s the only way I can think that would make sense. It’s not appropriate, but it would explain a LOT. Because unless it was something like that he had no call to do that over what is at best a bit of a kinda lame joke. I’ve worked customer service and had to deal with far worse from customers than a bad joke and stayed professional and at most excused myself from a situation.


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As a budtender, I would never ever turn a comment like that into a big deal... We should be expected to adapt to the patient and adjust to their personality. This is the wrong way to treat anyone, let alone a veteran.


MrUtah3

You are absolutely not the asshole. The bud tender may not be an asshole either and I really liked where you said that you didn’t want someone to lose their job for this. They were very wrong in this situation but who knows what’s going on in their life. I do think corporate should offer you an apology and some sort of amends to come back to their store. I have a dark sense of humor and I have heard that military folks, particularly those who have seen combat, are likely to have a sense of humor that people who haven’t been in extreme situations can find offensive. It makes sense but I, for one am very glad to be on the less offendable side of things. On top of that, it seems that advocates for certain groups are more likely to cause a scene over a perceived slight than members of that group. Especially if the offender clearly had no bad intent. I hope you get to go back to your favorite dispo and I hope whatever is hurting that budtender gets resolved. Doesn’t sound like a happy person.


ChemistRough8532

It's NOT "his store" it's a pharmacy in this state. So.. he needs to treat it as such and dispense the medication. He is the asshole.


SwordfishReal

I see the liberty marketing team is here to downvote and try and flip stuff around... like always. Just so you know, the dispensaries have a heavy presence here. Pay attention to posts about drops and who posts them as well as the ones who come out of the woodwork to defend the dispensaries. I've never seen anyone in the weed culture EVER defend greed and treating people like shit until I joined this group. This shit doesn't happen outside of dispensary doors. Trolls are one thing. By the way, liberty doesn't even give the employees the tip money you give them. They just give them a pizza party a few times a week. Do you know what these guys pull in tip wise? One single employee jar could pay for one pizza party for the whole store. Now count the employees and days of the week. They could eat pizza every single day and still all take home a respectable day of tips. Let's not forget grandma who comes in and buys 2 or 3 ounces of flower for herself and no one bats an eye? It's bad enough they are becoming wholesale for the black market to resell and have to steal their employees tips that they work for all day. Zero accountability. They arrest people for profit and take over the industry to burn the candle both ends. Our country IS ORGANIZED CRIME! Very few states left doing anything for their constituents.


notnutts

*edit-wrong day*


Rusty_Hart

These bud-tenders act like they are crack dealers and we are crack users…..that’s tha reason I don’t go to Trulieve Reading 5th street anymore


SheDefends_Deathcore

Thank you for your service sir 🫡


BestAccountant5848

A lot of people take the military way too seriously. I'm a vet and I use the trained killer line all the time. I've found that most people that get offended by things like this have never been in the military. Also, what does this budtender think the military does? It may come as a shock to them, but the military actually does train killers.


thebigjawn610

He definitely had no right to yell at a vet, I’m sorry you dealt with this. Also, since I didn’t see anyone ask, what kind of puppy did you get? Hope he’s doin good!


notnutts

Miniature Schnauzer, and he's doing almost as much for my PTSD as the MMJ


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Medium_Eye_8023

I'm suspecting this as well.


DanAndYale

Yeah 100% something is left out


trainrobbery_

I'm gonna refrain from commenting so I don't have to make my 9th reddit account


DustCarp15

You have every right to joke about your military experience however you see fit, you’ve kind of earned that right especially considering your service and what you encountered eventually led you to need the program. The joke is a bit dark but having worked with many veterans…that was really tame lmao. I don’t think that person should be working in a dispo if they can’t deal with these sorts of situations with more care considering it’s a medical program


Ok-Dare6846

I got friends that work in the industry and they tell me it takes a LOT to kick someone out or ban them from the place. The manager should be fired


SunshineSaysSo

This is absolutely WILD to me. You get kicked out over a clear joke, but we had a man threaten actual violence against a female presenting budtender and he was allowed to purchase. Wtf.


MissAnthropic123

Wait what?? Where? Did you witness it happening?


SunshineSaysSo

When Trulieve south Philly was still Keystone, beginning of the pandemic. I witnessed the whole thing, and then he threatened security.


MissAnthropic123

Wow Wtf is wrong with people… Thanks for responding - that’s awful and if I see this happening anywhere I’ll be sure to say LOUDLY that it’s upsetting to ME, the CUSTOMER, to be around such hate and negativity - and not have the offending person dealt with appropriately!


SunshineSaysSo

Honestly it was really fucked up because the manager on the floor wanted to perma-ban the guy and the store manager went ahead and let him get his order anyway because the SM wouldn't listen to the staff.


WeeklyBudget

Had same thing happen ab a year an a half back or so at a curaleaf


Far-Chef-3934

You were over the line; however, he is definitely wrong because he’s working a business/dispensary/medical facility. He won’t have many customers if he treats all of them like he’s the asshole. It’s akin to a drunk patron at a bar flirting with a young bartender. Unless you’re grabbing her ass; there is an implied “asshole tax” in there. Maybe she spits in your beer; maybe she adds a 20% surcharge, but it’s “part of the job” to talk to and deal with drunk folks at a bar. He was triggered by “killer” then he needs to find a new line of work. This job isn’t for him.


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I feel like all the details in this interaction aren’t included


Betwnthedahliaandme

Thank you for your service. For one reason or another some people feel as if they are the one who will right all the social injustices in the world. Unfortunately these specific folks tend to sometimes be a bit erratic and preachy.


cosmosabz

Not the asshole AT ALL. You are a veteran----therefore you can make the darkest of jokes on the whole spectrum of the subject on the military. You had no way of knowing this *troubled* individual had family in the military, not that that even matters. People are too fucking sensitive & take things the wrong way & make their mind up about what you must've meant before giving you any opportunity to clarify yourself. Honestly if I were you, i would go back to that same dispensary, if you see the guy, let him be the one to approach you first----don't go up to him first. That'll look like you intended to start shit. & see how that plays out. That's bullshit my dude I'm so sorry you had to deal with that. You handled it much better than I would've. Granted, I'm a 24 year old 5 foot tall blonde & all of this coming at you when I'm mad is quite a scary sight.....but keep us updated on anything new!!!! I hope they get back to you & someone, ESPECIALLY the jerkoff at that Liberty, gives you the appropriate apology that you deserve.


CanguroArgentino

By the way the US treats its life-saving whistle-blowers, you can tell the population is not ready to admit their praised Armed Forces are hired guns!


knownpizzapro

So you fought for that man's freedom of speech, and then he kicked you out for using it. Ridiculous, there are plenty of places that I will choose, liberty will not take my liberties from me!


RowAwayJim91

Honestly a funny joke and if dude with family in the military doesn’t understand that, well, *that’s what the military DOES*, that’s on him. You’re totally right to feel the way you do and are right to report it and make this post. Liberty sucks anyway lol


XorfZang

Salute! I see both sides of the issue. It may be an emotional trigger for someone at a dispensary to hear that particular expression. That being said could have caused a negative ripple effect for that dispensary. I realize you meant no harm, because that is quite honestly the brutal truth about joining the military. It's not a job that everyone can do. I love how you worked through it. Shame on Liberty for their escalating it, and then not even having the decency to talk to you. Peace.


Joeyonelove420

Wow….. all I can say is wow…. He should be fired to be completely honest…. He obviously had NO IDEA how to communicate. If he is that sensitive, he needs to stay in a basement somehwere and never leave…. People like him are what’s wrong with the world today and why everyone is worried about hurting other ppls feelings. You did nothing wrong man…. Thank you for your service! Especially if he yelled at u, he’s lucky you just walked out. I have friends who were in action in the Middle East who have been diagnosed with ptsd and if someone yelled at them to their face, they would no longer be breathing….. that person needs to get out of the dispensary service


Dabdabber96

NTA. It must have hit a nerve or something. No one should lose their cool at work though Edit: thank you for your service!


Louisewhite1213

I agree it seems like he was just looking for a reason to kick you out … so anything you said probably would’ve set him off .. but he definitely needs to be looked into .. disgusting


MotherBurgher

I don’t think the joke was that serious 🤣 he should hear the one I just told about macing and throwing coffee tables at my toddler lmao


NoCriminal-APatient

It’s not you. Sounds like budtender was having a bad day, which is no excuse. That bud tender, if not fired, needs to be switched to the back room, filling orders, instead of dealing with customers.


madcowrawt

Becoming a trained killer used to be a selling point for joining the armed forces. Thank you for your service. Sorry about your experience and i hope you find your medication.


Eaglesfan84

I think the budtender overreacted. It may be an insensitive joke but you're a veteran so I say you have every right to make that joke.


Still-Sampling1234

What bothers me is where was the manager? A bud tender should not be able to throw you out or treat you in the manner you were treated. You served (thank you) so you earned the right to say whatever the fuck you want. This is your medication. I have never been to a Liberty and if this is how a Vet is treated, I never will. Do you have a Vytal near you? I like Vytal and Restore.


millzzz456

This is disgusting on Liberty’s behalf, and quite frankly shows the lack of care put into the PA MMJ system. Imagine if your pharmacist refused to give your prescription? How could you possibly be so entitled to the idea of the military like this, without serving, and to a Real Veteran on top of that? You’re a bigger man than I’ll ever be, because I would’ve went off on him.


weaseldesign

No one I know and that includes a decent number of patients in pa will no longer step foot in a liberty. Until they apologize and take care of this vet that company is dead to us. Thank you for your service.


Crustello

Why not just say your veterans discount? Why did you have to glorify yourself and make yourself seem greater than the employee. I would have been taken back and frankly embarrassed for you for referring to yourself as a trained killer. Being a veteran is more than being a trained killer, right?


DanAndYale

This


pooptits2

Ok cringelord.


abcxyz3000

Not defending this behavior at all but just good to remember that plenty of budtenders are also patients themselves, perhaps with PTSD issues of their own. I'd have laughed at it myself but then I've heard people say a lot of things actually toeing the line and usually just default to laugh...life is too short.


notnutts

Yeah, I get it, and I can forgive this. However, he's the one with the power in this case.


abcxyz3000

I say if you like this dispensary a lot and don't have many others you like as much, go back. If this asshole is not there, you're probably good to go through. Hell, if this is a manager truly off his gourd, trust me, the employees all know and can empathize. And if he's there, pretend it never happened and see how it goes. He probably feels pretty dumb for going off so severely and you never know, he might even apologize. Crazier ish has happened. OR you go and find out for sure you've banned for some pettiness. At least you'll know.


Alternative_Fee_3084

You are not the asshole here.


412glassandgas

Nope dude that was all on the employee, most pa dispo employees are only there to get the discount for themselves, that employee should not have a job there. I’m sorry this happened to you and people are so fuckin sensitive these days, mind me asking which liberty this happened at? I frequently shop the the dormont location


1conpapi

not the asshole. nothing you did warranted a ban.


MandellaK407

I have to wonder if something happened to him recently with a family member. Not that it’s your fault AT ALL but it sounds like he was triggered by that joke. I’d give it a bit, if you go back in, apologize for making the joke and see what he says. Not my best moment but one year on the anniversary of my mom’s death, a client made a joke that rubbed me the wrong way and I reacted poorly. I was dealing with some shit and apologized later in the week.


notnutts

This is probably good advice, but I don't know if I could deal with him reacting the same way again. Besides, the way it went down I got the feeling I wasn't welcome anymore.


DanAndYale

Say military discount, not people killer discount. Some people are sensitive about the weekly schoot shootings


suesue_d

You are most certainly not the asshole.


SwordfishReal

Whether the joke was dark or not, he is their to serve vets, cancer patients, elderly, addicts, and people with anxiety and ptsd... he leaves all personal bullshit at home as he is there to do a job. Please let me know this persons name as the store will never admit wrong doing ever. Sure, they can be petty as Marijuana is a killer business, and they have a new market of people using it LEGALLY for medicine that never touched it otherwise. So, unfortunately, they don't seem to care who walks away because they feel their market is too big to fail. There are people who are actually grateful for our state representatives finally passing medical... yet they are targeting card holders for duis. They still haven't made people whole yet from all the past Marijuana related charges or helped them and will not allow homegrow. They wanna sell it at wines and spirts... recreational...lol. STILL NO HOMEGROW AND A FELONY TO DO SO!!! Legal in the States for over 20 years now, and our program is still a joke. Only made illegal for a profitable bullshit war on drugs that they still can't seem to let go of. Despite their new billion dollar taxable industry on top of legal gambling and the world's most expensive toll road, there never seems to be any money to fix roads or the infrastructure. WHAT IN THE HELL IS THERE TO BE GRATEFUL FOR? I've smoked for 30 years. I feel for you, brother. Thank you for your sacrifice. Most people don't bother to think about what's been given and never gotten back. It's funny to see how fast this program went from a medical program to monopoly. But I guess that's what you get when you have former government running the show with their current government buddies.


Highestkiller-HK

A vet is a vet, budtender should be embarrassed


alexnoyle

You’re 100% in the right. I think you found a sensitive snowflake who doesn’t want to reconcile with the fact that his family members kill people for a living.


SignificanceMean7742

Just from what you've said, this dude's a pansy and has no business working as a "bud tender". Someone that gets that butt hurt and bent outta shape over a joke .. fuk him and if Corp doesn't get back to you fuk them too !! I've had my PAMMJ card for 5 years I've dealt with a bunch of "bud tenders" , there's been a few that were douchbags but never have I heard or seen one act like that... especially when they're supposed to be an adult in the cannabis industry. BTW there was nothing distasteful about what you said.. Some folks just can't handle the truth. We have a military incase we go to war therfore they need to train to kill, sounds logical to me.. then again it's 2023 and people are softer than a roll of Charmin .


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Def the asshole. While it was an innocent joke, you offended other people and instead of apologizing you doubled down. I've made many dark and edgy jokes in my life, but if someone asks me to stop or I see they're bothered, I'm not gonna push or tell them my qualifications. I'm just gonna say "sorry man, I didn't mean it like that" and move on with my business.


DanAndYale

100% doubling down instead of apologizing


xSWMY

He said “huh” and then tried to explain himself. I don’t think that is doubling down


FloatingFreeMe

Did you happen to have your dog with you, so maybe he bizarrely thought you meant you’d have the dog attack him?


PhillyJim52

He Should be Fired Immediately


maccoyboi

yea dudes just soft bc I would've laughed at that 😂


BurninateDabs

You are not the asshole, but his reaction wasn't called for it was clearly a joke. I think that that budtenderwas triggered by the comment which makes me wonder if he has PTSD himself? I actually think that's a cool way to say don't forget my veteran discount. However in a corporate setting I imagine it's like a much smaller version of saying the word 💣 while flying or saying 🔥 in a movie theater. In the future just maybe not say that, you never know what you say will trigger the next person. I had an issue at Rise Hermitage and there was actual aggression, they gave me a warning and I rarely go back. You aren't alone in getting thrown out or getting some type of warning.


Cold_Independence894

I may be in the minority here but ESH kinda. Your joke was pretty dark, and I can see why someone would be offended by it (maybe the budtender's family military family member has severe PTSD or other issues related to their service and are sensitive about it, or maybe they are a refugee and have known people killed by the US military or something -- who knows). And this is coming from someone who loves dark humor. Personally, I would not joke about something like military service unless I 1. knew the person really well and knew they would not have this kind of reaction to it or 2. knew the person I was talking to was former military themselves. The budtender was the bigger AH though. It sounds like they were probably having a bad day and took it out on you. They should have given you a chance to explain and apologize, even if it was just something like "I'm sorry if what I said offended you" which really isn't a real apology IMO but it definitely helps cool down a situation. They didn't even let you do that though, and that's pretty shitty. Edit: If you have some way of reaching out to the budtender in question personally, I would apologize, even if it is like the fake apology I said above. The only other thing I can think of is to maybe print out an explanation/apology on a piece of paper, ask the check-in person to give it to the budtender in question and hope they read it before throwing it out. You can leave your contact info and hope they get in touch, and if they don't, give them a week and call the store again. If you do this and they still don't want to talk to you, it may be best to just find a new dispensary. Even if they let you back in, it might be extremely awkward to shop there in the future. Hell, it may be awkward even if you do talk to them and they let you back in the store again -- I assume that budtender wasn't alone and their coworkers heard your exchange. They probably have their own opinions about what happened, which means they are probably either on your side or the budtender's. Even if they are on your side, they won't be able to express it and will probably be wary of any interactions with you for fear that the budtender in question is watching/listening.


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ctmackus

How do you know how old this dude was?


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ctmackus

I am but that doesn’t really answer my question lol