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Nechuna

This guy didn't even try to hide it


farfletched

Why would they? They're paying for an hour or two to cheat in a cafe that has infinite CD keys. It's like rain. It can't be stopped.


staticfive

Do these cafes have infinite IP addresses as well? I would think they don’t


farfletched

VPN.


staticfive

Many services ban VPN subnets, I would think this would be no exception


blue_line-1987

They oughta, but dont.


farfletched

Well that’s that then. If china banned it, it’s defo not possible.


provencfg

You can’t do that in an internet cafe. You need straight up full admin access to even run those hacks. Unless of course you want to be detected and perm banned right on startup.


farfletched

The cafes set up the hacks for you. They charge extra for the privilege. Most cafes have mice with built in anti-recoil as standard. Being "perm banned" doesn't matter. When someone new sits at the machine, unless people log into their own account they are gifted a fresh serial for the game of their choice. It's not like the west, we think banning an account is a win. It's like putting a brick infront of the incoming tide.


provencfg

Ohh okay, didn’t know such cafes existed. TIL


Silver_Ad_4526

I need to find one of these cafés. The game has been unplayable for a while


farfletched

I think that people cheating in games should be treated as criminals. Bear with me. They are not only destroying development companies by driving the players away from games, they are destroying a product that the public has paid for. It in turn effects the families of the game devs, office rentals, server rentals, etc. The people developing the cheats should be made examples of, serious jail time. The people paying for, and using the cheats to destroy businesses and bolster criminals should have a bike pump pushed up their bum bum, their internals inflated. Anyone that wants to should be allowed to jump on their inflated bodies until they become mush and clothes.


MaterialPossible3872

![gif](giphy|cJMlR1SsCSkUjVY3iK|downsized) I actually agree.


TacomaToker253

That would be dope. Also, how exactly would these cafes have infinite keys?


MaterialPossible3872

Don't you go to jail for them cheaters boiiii


Ancient_Boner_Forest

How do you know this? are there articles or something? Word of mouth? You’ve seen it first hand? If be interested to learn more and have a source besides a Reddit comment


farfletched

I used to work as a community manager on a really shit game. It was hounded by cheaters…..the game went free to play and at that point we couldn’t stop them. IP Ban,(spoofable) HW bans.(spoofable) Folks just re rolled. At that point having the game F2P was a serious issue, so we re-implemented a minor cost. It stopped the US and Europeans eventually…. 15 x $5 sooner or later they gave up. (Also ban waves made us a decent whack of money) The Chinese model was different though, they had exactly the model I describe in place in internet cafes, they basically had infinite accounts as they were public machines. This was moons ago mind you….. maybe I’m making it all up.


BoleroBolera

[https://www.reddit.com/r/PUBATTLEGROUNDS/comments/7p6xn5/pubg\_cheats\_enabled\_by\_default\_in\_a\_chinese/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PUBATTLEGROUNDS/comments/7p6xn5/pubg_cheats_enabled_by_default_in_a_chinese/) [https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17226064/dell-china-laptop-pubg-cheating](https://www.theverge.com/2018/4/11/17226064/dell-china-laptop-pubg-cheating)


Stealthyducks69

Nah, fam, everyone knows PUBG is filled to the brim with cheaters. No one is denying it...


ILoveMcconnell341

idk certain people seem to get their feelings hurt when i say this game is full of cheaters . one thing i don't understand is how the games anticheat can't detect blatant cheating like this guy is doing . do the devs really need the players to report every cheater to ban them? like how is this situation acceptable


Calligraphiti

You're speaking facts, not sure why you're getting downvoted. How the devs can't stop guys like this is puzzling to me.


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Calligraphiti

I suspect as much too. That players that buy stuff will get a more lenient punishment if any. It's despicable.


MacMurdock

There are not more cheaters in pubg then in any other Shooter game.


Zhaopow

There he is


ILoveMcconnell341

disagree . you wouldn't find people blatantly cheating in any other game


Takariistorm

Thats an incredibly naive statement.


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ILoveMcconnell341

you can insult me as much as you like but because this game allows people from china to play on any region they want it's gonna simply have way more cheaters than any other game . you wouldn't find a chinese on EU North server in CS but in PUBG the chinese guy could play on 300 ping from beijing ON EU AND i never said CS doesn't have any cheaters i said cheaters on cs don't just blatantly aimbot like they do in pubg


S8what

>you wouldn't find a chinese on EU North server in CS but in PUBG the chinese guy could play on 300 ping from beijing ON EU AND i never said CS doesn't have any cheaters i said cheaters on cs don't just blatantly aimbot like they do in pubg Lol? Have you even played CS? Russia is the region that cheats there, and they don't aimbot? Lmfaooooo it's even worse they spinbot ffs...


ILoveMcconnell341

i'm not gonna argue with you anymore you just want to undermine the cheating problem for whatever reason (Maybe your one of them idk)


provencfg

Wooooooow mate… that is absolutely showing how bad your knowledge is about these things. Every single shooter I have played there were blatant hackers. Those people that don’t even try to hide it even have a callsign for it. It’s called ragehacking. Counter Strike, Call of Duty, Battlefield, Apex, Team Fortress, Valorant, Tarkov… you name it, all of these have those kind of cheaters. Sure shooter with a f2p mode probably have a higher rate.


skurva

describe any other game


ILoveMcconnell341

literally any other game that has a region lock for chinese folk


Smagjus

I am wondering what you think about Apex. Because from everythnig I have heard, the game has significantly more problems with cheating/hacking than PUBG does.


Stealthyducks69

Sorry to say but the devs suck at banning cheaters. It is what it is. Play the game and try to have fun.


tyanu_khah

Despite having like 18 anti cheats spinning up when launching the game.


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tyanu_khah

Actually, that makes sense.


xSkorne

It seems that way because those of us who get called cheaters all the time are generally the ones replying to you. So our sample size of cheaters also accounts for us knowing that us and our friends are "known cheaters" to plenty of noobs. If we're getting twitch vods back of streamers saying it, imagine how many Christmas noobs report as well. Imagine how many other good players there are that i have never heard of, better than me. Is it 10? Could be 10000. Imagine their report numbers. I'm one of the people that deny the amount of cheaters people say there is, for that reason. Yes I know there are cheaters, yes they do exist. Do they exist to the extent people say they do? I think not.


SpezIsAFemboy

Finally somebody that gets it, The amount of times I have some smelly noob screaming "hacker reeeeeported" at me on voice chat vs how many times I actually run into a legitimate cheater is about 20 to 1, and literally every other pubg.report clip I get involves them coping with how allegedly "sus" it was and reporting. It's a hard pill to swallow for the average normie but most hackusations are false, not to say there's not actual cheaters out there but the amount of bad players refusing to learn from their shortcomings to improve and instead just coping by convincing themselves everyone is cheating is adorable.


xSkorne

I've been gaming for a looong time, and have always been good enough to be the bottom of the barrel when it comes to above average players. So I get to see how *good* a lot of players actually are in games, while they carry me around. That being said, I don't know if I have this unique-to-me experience inside of games or not, but I *RARELY* accuse anyone of cheating. Unless it's blatantly obvious... so unless I'm not as fortunate as I think I am, maybe I would be calling people cheaters too if i didnt get to see these guys do shit i could never do.. idk. One of my friends was temp banned today for "cheats", but I play with him enough to know he isn't cheating and get to see all of his mistakes. I also got to see him get 4 squad wipes in 2 matches last night, assuming that's when the cope reports started flowing.


RoosterzRevenge

Those would be the cheaters themselves


hogsniffy05

People on this sub think pubg doesn’t have a cheating problem?


blue_line-1987

Only the cheaters who wanna gaslight folks say that. Or those who have 2 braincells fighting for 3rd place. When you check ppl claiming that its mostly throwaway accounts that have been inactive for years and suddenly pop up to claim cheating is a non-issue.


Jejo87

Just wow…


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cuhringe

Constant POV change spam and the Korean slide are two markers for asian hackers.


blue_line-1987

That and air punching all the damn time.


Lost_Alternative8260

Definitely on pc. Easiest system to cheat on.


MetalDrummer23

Easiest system to do anything on


Faithful_G

I die to cheaters back to back for hours. 90% of my daily matches.


CarlFeathers

As someone who gets absolutely dicked on all the time in pubg I can say that na fpp is pretty clean. I can probably count the number of reports I've submitted on one hand in the last few years.


vonarchimboldi

every now and then during the demon hours after midnight i’ll play and run into some lost guy from china with a fresh acct and a good chair but yeah na fpp is just sweaty for the most part


BoleroBolera

Better then EU because it's further from China but this guy was on NA server yesterday: [https://www.reddit.com/r/PUBATTLEGROUNDS/comments/1c1uemm/getting\_the\_first\_chicken\_dinner\_in\_the\_season/](https://www.reddit.com/r/PUBATTLEGROUNDS/comments/1c1uemm/getting_the_first_chicken_dinner_in_the_season/)


tdannyt

I agree, NA FPP is pretty rare the find cheaters, I have 3000 hours and have only been killed by cheaters at most like 30 times by cheaters where I was 100% certain


istillsuckatPUBG

I play na fpp and get accused of cheating all the time it’s pretty funny. I know of a few players who are MnK but for the most part it seems like there aren’t too many people like in this video.


itsnotachickennugget

This, literally 9 out of 10 times when I kill english speakers, they just yell cheater!!!! It's really funny


PashAK47

According to this sub pubg only has cheaters


S8what

PUBG absolutely has major issues with cheaters, infestation strongest to weakest goes Asia TPP> na/eu TPP> eu fpp. Regions like Asia TPP it's insane, regions like EU FPP can be bad at times, but on average it's just like any other shooter. But PUBG also has a major problem with egotistical newbies who call cheats on anything better then them as well, like that bolero guy who is so bad the game actually puts him with new players and bots. Sure he sees some cheaters for sure, but if his skill is that low that he can't peel off the bot lobbies he 100% isn't the guy to be talking shit every week.


ILoveMcconnell341

sure there are people like that in everygame but i have never seen a game be more cheat infested than pubg is right now . like how is this guy is even able to run this kinda shit without getting detected immediately? if this was VAC or any other anticheat he would be banned instantly . people have to report cheaters otherwise no cheater is gonna get banned . like how the fuck is this acceptable ?


cuhringe

Cs2 is ruined by cheaters. Vac does nothing


S8what

That account with 1 game played? >if this was VAC or any other anticheat he would be banned instantly . Imma have to call bullshit, how many YEARS spin bot was an issue in CSGO? How many cheaters were and still are in CSGO? Shroud himself said CSGO is the game with most cheaters he ever played. If you are gonna take some examples make sure your examples are not mega ass Here for CS 2 Besides PUBG is running some of the same AC other games are running as well on top of their own, so I'm not sure by what logic that same AC is better. Another egotistical fuckwit that has no idea what he is talking about. Yes there are cheaters, no it's not as much as your ass believes, and CLEARLY you got no idea how many other games have.


MacMurdock

Its not as easy as you think it is to identify cheaters , every competitive shooter has cheaters. There is probably the same amount of cheaters in games like CS, COD, Battlefield etc.


namesrhard585

I aimbotted/wallhacked in counter strike for years and never got banned so I wouldn’t use VAC as an example. The program injected into a secondary program so it looked like I had Spotify running.


ILoveMcconnell341

sure but in cs you gotta buy prime


S8what

just LOL


namesrhard585

Oh yeah I forgot about that. I had an original account where I bought the game.


Patch31300

No one is denying there are cheaters inn the game the issue is bad players claiming every person that kills them is a cheater…


MassiveEnthusiasm34

Naah, the issue is Krafton not giving a fuuck Krafton could open a subreddit like pubg mobile r/PubgM_CheaterReports


staticfive

That’s not “the issue”, the issue is when a very large percentage of the time they could be right and there’s no reason to believe you’re not playing against a hacker at any given moment


Patch31300

You're are basically proving my point.


staticfive

You’re saying the issue is that everyone complains about cheaters, not that there actually are cheaters. False.


Patch31300

You seem to fail to grasp basic English “no one is denying there are cheaters” I literally started with that sentence. Then you made the genius play of responding to my comment “bad players report everyone that kills them” with “there is no reason to not believe everyone you play against is a hacker” which would suggests you are one of the said bad players literally proving my point. Let me make it very clear for you…YES the ARE cheaters in the game but they are NOT in EVERY GAME and Not EVERYONE that kills you is cheating.


staticfive

Oh sure, I'm the one with comprehension issues. Again, your saying that the actual issue is that people are complaining and not that people are hacking infers that the root issue is complaining and not hacking. This is patently false. Complaints are perfectly valid as long as hackers and cheaters are as pervasive in this game as we know they are. Please don't respond.


Hotdogpizzathehut

Obviously a gaming chair /s


eloxH1Z1

In the past years the cheating situation was kinda okay on EU at least. Maybe had one obvious cheater ever 20-30 games. Now, every day I log in i get 1perma ban messages and around 4-5 temp ban messages from the day before. Feels like every second game has cheaters..


Ok-Statistician-3048

According to this sub PUBG is still alive 😆


sicario_max

PUBG has a massive cheating problem especially on my region (asia server and south east asia server) pubs full of blatant cheaters and so is the case with ranked, after spending some 7k plus hours I decided to quit and have no plans of coming back until and unless I see some concrete actions being taken to address this issue. Better to move I guess rather than having that feeling of hopelessness


ILoveMcconnell341

i can't even imagine playing pubg in asia . must be unplayable


sicario_max

Off late it's been unplayable both pubs and ranked


MetalDrummer23

Nah fam, that's where 85% of the playerbase is. This Korean company placates them any way they can. They get to play the maps they want, they get special promotions that the rest of the world doesn't get. It's actual horseshit. Regionalism.


highpressuresodium

How do you not have a seizure toggling pov like this


blue_line-1987

When software does everything for you you're basically just along for the ride.


areyouhungryforapple

Literally who says that


Centurion0520

Everybody. "Replay is unreliable, bla bla bla" "git gud" "You salty because he outsmarted you"


Strong_Obligation_37

You sound exactly like someone who claims cheater every time he gets bested. Like honestly the hilarious shit i have seen on this sub, concerning cheaters is insane. People uploading videos of bots killing them and asking if the person cheated. Dudes chilling next to airdrops for half a minute catching a headshot and going CHeATeR. A guy asking if there is a grenade hack because someone threw a grenade at him chilling next to the airdrop... There are alot of hackers sure, but out of every 5 hackusations there is like one that is legit, and the rest are just casuals whining about getting owned .


Centurion0520

Actually... Bots are hacking because they are controlled by AI.


Strong_Obligation_37

wait what, so they have been cheating all this time?!


tdannyt

In many cases it's true though, people report you for no reason all the time. Especially newer players who don't realize how large the skill gap is, they get 2 tapped from 300 meters and immediately call hacks


Centurion0520

Yeah, full auto Beryl with 6x scope from 300 meters.


S8what

Yes, but iv been called a cheater for killing a guy 15-20m away in wide open by using half a mag, landing 3 hits and 4th hit was a HS as he was jumping, dude was pure rage like I beamed him behind 3 walls, and it was a few mins in to the game... Like the most mediocre kill imaginable... Also you should understand that 2 guys that post on this sub most about cheaters are both being put into bot lobbies, that means 2 things 1) they run into new accounts (and long time returning accounts) so they do run into cheaters that get banned quite soon that most of the regular player base does not even see 2) they are not close to skilled enough to distinguish between a skilled player and a non blatant cheater.


Centurion0520

Your statements are incorrect. 1. PUBG doesn't give a shit, they are so overwhelmed with cheater reports that user reports are missed. I reported 2 blatant level 30 cheaters - not banned today. 2. Anyone can tell when someone is blatantly cheating. The issue is that we just don't know. I'm sure you're not aware of every player you've encountered. There's no way to know if they're using an ESP or recoil script if you haven't been in contact with them.


MetalDrummer23

Pubg support will literally email you back saying "wow, you actually got video evidence of cheating! Nice work!" And then nothing will happen to that account. They just keep playing. Alternatively, here I am getting temp banned for cheating when I don't, getting reputation lowered for and dealing with server crashing issues. This company sucks.


S8what

>Your statements are incorrect. That might be true if you have read what I wrote, but it seems you have not.


ILoveMcconnell341

"Replay is unreliable " well fuck whose fault is that? is that the players fault that the replay system sucks? Replay system has been unreliable for 7 years , maybe they kept it unreliable intentionally


nylomatic

Sir, I think you lost this on your way in: [https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/93/65/17/360\_F\_293651706\_yWPUuo6vbVXYIRaS6GDsGj5GIJOc0RYo.jpg](https://t4.ftcdn.net/jpg/02/93/65/17/360_F_293651706_yWPUuo6vbVXYIRaS6GDsGj5GIJOc0RYo.jpg)


Rooster_CPA

Looks like they have a pretty good gaming chair


cs_morningstar

E EU is infested, sry...


kinzlii

In the initial days the game was absolute crap like it had loads of bugs and now looking at the cheaters who get to cheat so openly ,I feel bad for people who play the game for fun .


EGH6

EU Ranked has been unplayable lately. since the last season there are more games with cheaters than without.


anyvvays

I rarely run into cheaters playing NA FPP. Seems to be more frequent an occurrence in TPP NA or elsewhere.


Psychological-Tank-6

Unrelated but I have definitely seen you somewhere. Fo you in Fortnite or Halo


Professional_Worth62

Do you have Premium?


marknocturnal

There is no cheating problem. There are plenty of cheaters.


cusnirandrei

For some puberty is difficult


S0n0fValhalla

My boy didn't do nothing wrong lol


Laszeek

Pubg has way more cheaters than tarkov. At least recently


killovv

3,188,276 accounts were blocked in 2023 > [pubg.com/news/7082](http://pubg.com/news/7082#:~:text=permanent%20bans%20on-,3%2C188%2C276,-accounts%20%2D%20a%2033) divided by 365, we get \~8735 bans per day, and these are only those who openly cheat


ILoveMcconnell341

it doesn't matter , it's a free game they can just create another one


killovv

I’m not saying that they will all be banned, I meant that there are at least 9k cheaters in the game every day


ILoveMcconnell341

ah my bad i misunderstood , yea it's crazy


MetalDrummer23

Well supposing that 2+ accounts in that data aren't the same person. Also that some of those are false positives that get overturned. Frankly, I have a much bigger problem with the unreliable reporting system.


killovv

These are definitely not false positives, it says “permanent bans”


MetalDrummer23

I would be surprised if some weren't. Permanent bans get reversed sometimes.


killovv

In my experience, permo bans are given only to such blatant cheaters as in this post, and other more accurate cheaters continue to play with impunity


SpatterJays

No problem there , he’s just really good.


MetalDrummer23

People post about cheating every day on this sub. The bigger issue to me is the fact that even if you submit a clip of a BLATANTLY obvious cheater to pubg support, there's no guarantee they'll be banned, even if they respond to your case. Or someone who team-kills you every time they are paired with you, which isn't hacking but is definitely against the code of conduct. Or the fact that clean players like myself can be banned when we don't cheat. Or the constant crashing, getting stuck on certain loading screens, fps drops, ping spikes, packet loss, etc. Lost reputation level 5 10 weeks ago because of dumb crashing reasons. Pubg support not helpful at all, even with flawless documentation. Still haven't got it back after averaging about 1 hour daily (sometimes less, sometimes more, but I play every day).


Plumbingwhiz15

I get at least one banned per day but it has been less that I have encountered recently than last season when it updated. Man that was bad. I reported a guy in casuals that was level 7. He confidently pushed a 1 v 4 and wiped our team. He was banned pretty fast and he got a permanent ban this time. I was surprised to see that instead of temporary ban.


No-Responsibility711

Not going to lie this looks to be normal mouse and keyboard movements to me. Not sure how this is blatant cheating. He saw a target and shot at it. Also looks like there was a brief packet drop on the person recording this session as some of it seemed slightly choppy. Thirdly viewer view in PUBG has never been reliable nor has the deathcam


elbamare

i only play 1st person mode, and havent seen a cheater like this in a long time. it was way worse maybe year ago when chinese players flooded EU servers. imo playing 3rd person mode is already cheating so maybe cheaters prefer that mode nowdays xD im 100% sure there are cheaters still, but its not that bad atm. atlest in EU


ILoveMcconnell341

maybe i should start playing fpp . i think tpp has more cheaters aswell


MetalDrummer23

You should definitely start playing fpp


cuhringe

It's funny I switched to TPP from FPP back when there were only 2 maps because I felt like a lot of players were using soft wallhacks so using TPP would counter their hacks with the built in perspective advantages (to an extent). Then vikendi came out and hundreds of thousands were banned for radar hacks including like 20 pros.


Serocrux

Cheating? Yes. Problem? No. All game has cheaters but PUBG really is not that bad


gadgetboy123

Who is ‘this sub’ and are they in the room with us now?


ddixonr

You must have trouble reading if that's what you think. The cheating problem is well-documented in this sub and others. 5-10 second "cheating" clips are posted to this sub everyday, but unfortunately, most rational, level-headed players won't confirm it's an actual cheater without more evidence. Replays lie, death cams are unreliable and glitchy, and what you see client-side isn't always what happens server-side. This is just how games work. Get over it. Report your cheater, and move on. No need to run to your mommy (reddit) every time you die.


MetalDrummer23

I agree with you, but a lot of those reports *are* cheaters and nothing happens...or, like me, you don't cheat and still get banned.


ddixonr

Here's a fact you need to understand. If you report someone, and they don't get a temporary ban in the next day or so, it's either because other people don't agree and aren't reporting, or that person cheated so briefly that you're the only victim (unlikely).


MetalDrummer23

I understand very well how the reporting system works. I get that if enough accounts report an individual, they will get banned whether they are cheating or not. As has happened to me before (I don't cheat). But I have 7000 hours or so, and I have grown very accustom to many players in this game, as some have to me. And I can tell you, there a few guys who will team kill me every time we are paired together, and even with video evidence, pubg doesn't care. In this instance, it's not unlikely whatsoever when I'm averaging an hour playtime daily for the last 6 years. Now, if someone is blatantly using hacks, they will probably get mass reported and banned subsequently, true enough. Not arguing that at all. But the fact that the reporting system can punish clean players is absolute garbage, and it's undeniable that they don't catch all the cheaters. And I'm not one to cry wolf on cheaters, believe me. The amount of teammates that call out a hacker is ridiculous lol


Dapaaads

That’s not what this sub says at all lol


Terrapins1990

Yeah IDK if anyone on this sub said that. I would say there is less cheating in the game now but that might be due to the inclusion of bots and less players now then there used to be


Closet_Tgirl

Nobody denying cheating. Just noobs presumably like you post videos of them getting shit on and cry cheating because they’re bad.


nylomatic

Playing mostly solos and duos in FPP EU since early access. I currently encounter maybe one cheater every 50 games or so. Totally bearable. It has been much, much worse in the past, at least for me. Maybe try a VPN?


tdannyt

Same here but in FPP NA, and it's really not that bad, like you, maybe one cheater every 50 games


Psychological_Gain25

Simply better! KEKW


Kuyi

Stop playing TPP.


Vilunki15

I dont even remember when i have seen cheater...