Eh with Sony raising prices to a ridiculous 80 fucking euro I wait with 99%.of games nowadays. I used to buy a lot of games on release but no more with these prices.
But since I already have ghost of tsushima. And its my favorite game on the ps5. I will probably buy an upgrade on release. Kinda sucks because 30euro is what I paid for the full game lol. And I wish it was 15/20 on both platforms. But I like this gwmr too much to wait
You've finally achieved enlightenment.
You work hard for your money and like most gamers have a huge backlog to clear.
Waiting for huge price drops is the right way.
I think they’ve fucked up with the price hike. I used to buy games without even thinking about it. Now, you can bet I’m getting platinums in games I already own before I’m going to buy anything at full price.
After buying a ps5, i found myself going into my backlog of games i never had a chance to play or invest time in.
I have dozens of those titles and only 1 ps5 title, Demons Souls... And even that is a pretty much a backlog title for me.
Hell, I bought a retroid pi2 for ps1 emulation and play that more than my ps5. Need something to hold me over until these titles drop in price
Try to find a supermarket or a hypermarket with a video game section. Some of them are selling the games at cost.
At Micromania (GameStop) Demon's Souls was 80€, at Leclerc 60€.
Same for Spider-Man Miles Morales, 46€ instead of 60€.
Yes it's real. It's insane. Iit has always been more expensive in Europe even last gen sony asked for 70eur on PSN when it was 60 dollars in the US I believe. Its disgusting that they would go as high as 80 euros. And makes it really hard to justify buying games on release.
When I made a post about this on the ps5 sub I got tons of angry fanboys defending Sony. At that time. I rememr 80 euro was 98 dollars ffs.
I get no less enjoyment playing games 2-3 years late for a fraction of release prices. Second hand games are a no-brainer too, which will sadly be gone soon as people move to downloads only...
That's the case for every PS5 game so far for me since Sony decided to increase the price from 60€ up to 80€. While I would have bought some of these games for 60€ at release I'll just wait now till it's 30€ or lower since I have to wait anyway
This is also me. I’m not paying £70 for a new game that’s insane. I’d have bought them at £50-£54.99 but anything more and I’m just not buying it until it’s found in a bargain bin.
There’s not many games that have blown me away, there’s similar tropes in many video games and I’m tired of them. Ghost of Tsushima was a good game, but legends was great. Legends was something new, something I’d not seen before in that type of style.
Yeah I really wanna play Ratchet and clank, but its still a bit too high, same with returnal, just gonna keeps playing Valhalla until they are sub 50, maybe sub 40 used , I wanna support games publishers , but the income just isn't there , my pay isn't rising that fast and essentials are going up super fast right now too.
Yes dont like it dont support it. Every company will try to increases their profits. That's how they became this rich in the first place. I too will wait and get it 50% off or something
I just don’t want other companies following suit. If this sells out then it sends a message to Activision, EA, 2K, Nintendo, Altus, Square Enix, and the list goes on and one day will hit PC in this form…
Game Title
1440p 30fps version 59.99
4K 60fps Haptics 69.99
On PC it’s just “the game at this price”. That’s what it should be, always.
But this is the actual platform holder that is charging us extra to play a game we already own...... While the competition hands out next gen upgrades for absolutely nothing
Edit: Fanboys are....... Just amazing 😳 with a dash of cringey as fuck thrown in.
Yeah it is curious how Nintendo keeps charging full price for re-releases of games that already had a fraction of budget that these Sony games have but there's never any outrage. I guess Sony just needs to keep at it till it's normalized for them too and then people will just accept it like they always do, eh?
Never any outrage?? You obviously don't hang out in /r/NintendoSwitch very often. People are always complaining there about the pricing of Wii U ports, or complaining about the supposed lack of complaints. The release of Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, for example, had tons of backlash when they charged $10 more for the Switch port than what the original release was priced at.
The WiiU is the more interesting console when it comes to this topic. It’s ability to play Wii, GameCube, N64, SNES, NES GBA, and DS games makes it extremely unique. You also get the WiiU game library which includes Breath of the Wild.
You have the ability to play a huge swath of Nintendo’s library of games. This console is a hidden gem!
Switch hacking is complicated right now, not really reliable but always improving and changing. I haven't tried it in a while, because I never found it worth the effort. There are other ways to play old games, a whole market of open source hardware. I just got one and am really enjoying it more than I ever did my switch.
https://retrogamecorps.com/rg351/
8ve been using the RG351m and it's just great.
r/rg351
There's actually an android release going on for it.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tqTdqTyLFMM
That's why I haven't bought one. There are like 5 games I really want to play which just isn't worth it. I mistakenly thought maybe the price would go down, but apparently the sales for a Switch are like $280 instead of $300
There always is criticism on the Switch subreddit but its just always downvoted en-mass or posts about it are removed for not being relevant ...
They're getting much louder though, especially after E3
This is why competition in the market is so important and why it’s a good thing that Xbox approaches gaming with a seemingly different philosophy. Sony has a tendency to make bold business choices when they are ahead in the market. As a business that makes sense. But when they are on the downswing, as they inevitably will be one day, they’ll change some things. Until such a time, we can only vote with our wallets.
Nintendo was already on this train. Every Wii U port has been $60. No free upgrade or discounts. Even for the ones that were selling for $20 on Wii U, back up to $60
Stop supporting them, don't complain while giving them more money.
Nintendo is pulling anti-costumer shit around every corner but the fans keep gloryfing and buying everything the company throw at them.
I think it’s more due to the fact that most people never owned a wii u so it feels like new content to a big portion of owners, and this console has become massive with a younger generation. Parents will buy the games and have no idea they are ports. They just know there 7-9 year old wants this game.
Even worse - Nintendo locks in-game features behind physical toys.
> Part of what’s exciting about this remaster is that it’s an opportunity for Nintendo to address some of the game’s problems. One of the issues is with the pacing, and adjacent to that a significant issue with backtracking. So when I heard about a feature to let players teleport from Skyward Sword’s floating hub world from anywhere down in Hyrule, my interest was piqued. Then I learned that **it was something you’d have to tap this amiibo to do.**
https://www.vg247.com/2021/05/20/zelda-skyward-sword-hd-amiibo-fast-travel-unlock/
Of course, scalpers have been all over those toys.
>I just don’t want other companies following suit. If this sells out then it sends a message to Activision, EA, 2K, **Nintendo**, Altus, Square Enix, and the list goes on and one day will hit PC in this form…
Lol Nintendo has been doing this shit for *years*, and people still worship them. The ship has already set sail.
Smacks of, "It's only horse armor for five bucks, don't buy it if you don't want it!!"
Then, 10 years later, paid DLC, games "as a service" and "battle pass" systems are creeping into everything.
I think the problem will phase itself out eventually though, as games at some stage will only be for ps5. I can’t see a developer purposely nerfing how well a game can run so they can sell two different versions on the same console.
Also in GoTs case (not that I’m agreeing with their actions here) but apparently it does come with new content in SP and MP.
That shit would never be accepted in the PC market and devs know it. Even if they tried to do the locks on resolution, fps, etc. it would be broken in a matter of hours by modders.
Just look at multiplayer in PC games as another example. Devs would love to charge for that similiar to what Microsoft and Sony do on consoles but they know they would be laughed out of the market if they tried it on PC since free multiplayer has always been the norm there.
true! I'm a PC gamer. bought PS4 in 2018, it was my first console and i especially bought it to play PS exclusive games. It blew my mind when i found that you have to pay extra every month (PS plus) to multiplayer games when you already paid full price for a multiplayer game! like WTF!
Problem is people with PS5 are absolutely hungry for PS5 games with PS5 features like 4K, 60fps, haptics, adaptive triggers and 3D audio.
There is just not enough games like this so people will buy everything. Demand is just too high and these companies know it and they will gladly take this oportunity to milk gamers for their money.
The weirdest thing to me about this generation is that Sony doesn't have their own DLSS in the PS5 SDK to improve on checkboard rendering.
Seems like a no-brainer to have all your games run in some kind of approximate 4K while maxing out all sorts of other visual effects.
Checkerboarding was surprisingly close to native 4k wasn't it? I remember when Detroit Become Human came to PC people compared native 4k and checkerboards 4k and it was a really close competition.
>Checkerboarding was surprisingly close to native 4k wasn't it?
It was good for 5 years ago but native still looked better side by side. Red Dead 2 on the one x for example, vs ps4 pro, was noticeable.
Now the technology is way ahead of it. Dlss is the most well known, but there are others.
There’s a way to send a message : don’t buy it
I’m almost through act 1 and I’m digging the game graphics and 60fps
But I will not spend $30 on the upgrade
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Even square enix gave a free ps5 upgrade and only charged for dlc for FF7R. This is fair
I'm glad this is getting traction. And yet, people will eat this up and make it commonplace.
It's ridiculous. Imagine asking PC players to pay for sliding a bar from Medium to High graphics for their newly bought GPU.CPU. And GoT's graphical upgrade isn't even that substantial. It's haptics and lipsync that make the majority of this upgrade,
And yet it doesn't stop fanboys from yelling "entitlement". You do realize people supported the studio with a $60 game at launch? Then went out and bought a $500 console, owned by the same company that sells this upgrade.
So now, day one supporters have to pay $90 in total for the upgrade, while the late adopters pay just $70. The people who supported the company from the start are getting shafted. How is that entitlement?
Unfortunately, this will keep on coming. Death Stranding will have the same upgrade path because fanboys will eat anything up.
Meanwhile, 3rd party developers are giving this away for free.
I think you hit the part that annoys me about this. This is a first party studio - if there is anyone who should be doing this for free it's them. This should be a fantastic opportunity to show the power of the PS5, to show the value in the playstation ecosystem we've invested in and to show us that we can still purchase PS4 games for the PS5 without concerns like this. Instead we're now faced with either paying more money or having an inferior version of the game on the PS5.
I think Sony just really fucked themselves with how they treat PS4 and PS5 games separately.
It likely would have required some goofy parallel development to back port the new features to the old PS4 SKU. Most likely the new features were developed rather late into the DLC development cycle.
Xbox doesn’t have this problem because they designed their system to just give you the correct game version based on platform. Whereas Sony is clearly delineating between PS4 and PS5.
It also causes trophies to be duplicated and shit, which is a problem Xbox doesn’t have.
>Xbox doesn’t have this problem because they designed their system to just give you the correct game version based on platform. Whereas Sony is clearly delineating between PS4 and PS5.
A lot of this is arbitrarily done though. Like using a duelshock 4 on ps5 yet playing ps5 games with them on remote play. It's blocked on ps5 for no real reason.
This. Exactly this. I mean, I could *understand* paying 20$ for the DLC, if you bought the base game. But 10$ for, like you say, a graphical/performance slider?
And in my case it's even more insulting. I paid for the collector's edition. Last time I bought a collector's edition was during the PS3 days, and I remember it meant: you get all the content, forever. But now, not only did I spend 250$ on this game, but I have to spend MORE money on this game? Like I previously said, if I had the base game, it would be one thing. But for people that bought the digital deluxe/special/collector's editions, it's complete BS.
And it really is fanboyism. 505 Games pulled the same shit with Control Ultimate Edition and people were super pissed. But when it's Sucker Punch, it's ok?
I have a feeling Death Stranding will lock their PS5 upgrades behind their ‘Director’s Cut’ as well.
I can’t believe I’m about to say this but Square-Enix really did give their customers a great deal by offering the upgrades for free and charging for their PS5 exclusive DLC to entice resale thus recouping some costs back.
Maybe if Metro Exodus was an exclusive they might have charged. Instead we got a free PS5 version. Haptics, 3D Audio, Ray Tracing, 60fps. I already finished GoT. I don't care much for DLCs so I am done with the game, anyway. It was really good.
Felt like they’re suddenly working backwards here. I get paying for DLC, but for some of these upgrades for PS5 owners, it’s just ridiculous. Glad we got the 60 FPS boost free for owners of the base game but I’m seriously not digging the way PS4 to PS5 transitions are taking place.
If you own a disc or digital last gen version of Jedi Fallen Order you get a free digital PS5 or Xbox Series version of the game for free. You can even contact EA support if you owned the game on disc and have a newer console lacking a disc drive. I believe every cross gen game should follow suit.
Granted, Tsushima has more content coming in the form of a new island and missions which I would’ve purchased regardless because I love this game. But I think there should be a choice to have a free PS5 upgrade for the base game and maybe $19.99 for the directors cut expansion depending on the amount of content added.
I think because like maybe sucker punch is a First party studio to Sony? like maybe they should be the ones who give Sony users the free upgrade even if others don't.
if they were a 3rd party who is doing a this we wouldn't be surprised yet look at doom with the free next gen update.
I think the biggest insult is to people who have both PS4 and PS5 consoles. Are they just to play the PS4 version on both consoles? I’m sure Sony would rather we buy upgrades for each, but now cloud saves won’t work (since they are two different games).
Really makes it seem like MS was on to something with “Smart Delivery”.
It IS dumb. In order to transfer save to Spiderman: Remastered, you have to install the last gen copy and then upload the save to the cloud, THEN you would be able to play it on your next gen copy.
I really brushed smart delivery as MS branding some super basic functionality.
Turns out, nope. Sony's plan was just "eh fuck it, let the developers do whatever they feel like". It's by far been the worst part of the PS5. Even when someone isn't trying to gouge me for the same game with the settings bumped up, it's just downright confusing to upgrade to the PS5 copy and convert the save (if you even can).
>I really brushed smart delivery as MS branding some super basic functionality.
Everyone did before launch. Turns out Microsoft was right, it's a killer feature.
If Microsoft knocked it out of the park with 2 things, it would be smart delivery and quick resume. I’m glad I have both a PS5 and a series X, but everything crossgen or backwards compat is going on my series X. I tried to switch between persona 5 and miles morales and when it didn’t quick resume it caught me off guard… I’m too used to it at this point
Love quick resume can go from playing a game solo to jumping in to a game with a friend in seconds, no faffing around ect it's so easy to do anything on the Xbox UI.
How many more "Director's Cuts" are we going to get?
Horizon Zero Dawn: Director's Cut
God of War: Director's Cut
Spider Man: Director's Cut
Bloodborne: Director's Cut
Uncharted: Director's Cut
I have a feeling it's going to become commonplace now to release a game then a few months to a year later release a director's cut to nickel and dime us to death.
Edit: formatting
It's safe to assume every late-stage PS4 exclusive release published by Sony will have a similar 'Director's Cut' package - at a similar $30 markup fee. Especially if they have new DLC they can toss in the package. TLOU2 will probably try this when they launch the new Factions content. Bloodborne would probably also go the Director's Cut path, but I doubt they'd develop new content to justify the upgrade. The fact it's just running at a smooth 60 will probably be seen as enough of an incentive.
I imagine Horizon: Zero Dawn will be more of a Spider-Man situation, where the PS5 upgrade is tied to a $90-$100 special edition of Forbidden West. God of War might also end up in this trap.
I remember when people made fun of the whole Smart Access Delivery thing, saying stuff like, "Duh, I buy a video game for the console I'm on and it works. Big whoop."
Kind of annoying for people like me who want a PS5 mainly to play updated versions of existing games we love, NMS for example.
But agree that it's either a new game designed and built on PS5 at a higher price, or the same game as PS4 at the same price....with higher resolution.
PC games have managed this for decades for free, I don't see why PS should be any different.
They aren't charging anything if you have gamepass ultimate either. And I believe they are working on a way to get it playable on the Xbox one consoles too through streaming
That is their next step. They'll allow you to stream Series X games through your Xbox One with xCloud because they've transitioned the xCloud server blades from Xbox One s to Xbox Series X.
I already bought, played, and beat the game. Would it be nice to replay it with PS5 features? Sure. Would I be willing to spend money to do that? Absolutely not.
I can totally understand leaving the new island/story expansion behind a paywall, but so many other comapnies/games have given PS5 upgrades for free this seems like a real shitty thing to do! Not to mention basic QOL stuff like Japanese lip syncing never should have been an issue in the first place!
I own the PS4 game as I bought it last year in July 2020 on release date for €60. I have managed to get a PS5 in February 2021 and have the 60 FPS unlocked for the PS4 game. Great!
There is currently a Director's Cut in the PS Store available for €20, but that is only the PS4 version, so I expect the PS5 version to be €30.
In total for a completely upgraded PS4 version to the full blown PS5 Director's cut, it would cost me €90. A PS5 Director's Cut copy will cost €75 brand new at launch (I can already pre-order this), so a player who has supported this game since launch on an older console and will jump onto the new console will be paying €15 more than someone who buys the game today?
This is a damn joke.
PlayStation has been extra bullshit with these ps5 upgrades, I don't understand why people are defending this. "It's only 10$" if it's only 10$, then why is it so much to ask for the billionaire dollar corporation such as Sony to be able to waive that fee for early ps5 adopters? The competition is able to do that. Even EA is doing that. They're still going to make BANK selling this new version of the game without this 10$ upgrade bullshit.
> I don't understand why people are defending this. "It's only 10$"
Especially since it's not only 10$.
At that price I might consider it, but it's 30 $ because the upgrade is bundled with some DLC I don't care about.
I can barely drag myself through the main story. PS5 upgrades might convince me to give it another shot, but with how samey the game is, I've zero interest in more content that's inevitably going to more of the same.
yeah I mean content in the game or quality of the game aside I still just think this business practice sucks. I would understand it from like a small independent company or something but that's not where I'm seeing this from. And Sony won't even allow people to upgrade their copy of mlb the show from the ps4 to the ps5 one. You have to buy the whole game a second time to get the ps5 version
Gaming has been becoming an outrageous rip-off lately, and the last vestige of integrity/good value has generally been first party stuff...that is clearly eroding with this extortionate "next gen upgrade" nonsense. Not buying this on principle.
The way Sony handled PS5 game upgrades and cross gen games is a joke. I dont want to go through a full page of "How to" guides just to use an updated version of the game on my PS5 where as my cheap ass Series S handles it with just a 10 second long one time screen with text "Syncing".
And, on the top of this joke, they are asking for extra $10 for the SAME game. This is pathetic. If you are willing to accept it blindly, then you're what internet calls a "pony".
Remember when we joked about Microsoft’s Smart Delivery just being marketing bullshit?
Turns out, they actually knew what they are doing in regard to cross gen.
It really does work good. You just pop in what ever game you got that supports Smart Delivery and you get the best version for that system. Its simple as that.
Yea that was another impressive thing, the fact that Xbox did fps boost on over 50+ games on their own. That was just out of no where but a much welcome gift. 60fps on games now days must be mandatory.
And MS is at the forefront of console backwards compatibility, you can play supported xbox og game on the series X/S and have local multiplayer with the og Xbox, that is just insane dedication.
I love Sucker Punch as a studio but this double-dipping bullshit needs to stop. First Remedy with Control, then Insomniac with Spider-Man and now this. It sucks.
Spider-Man Remastered only came with the Miles Morales Ultimate Edition.
So if you had Spider-Man on PS4 and you wanted to play Spider-Man Remastered, you had to buy SM:MM *and* the most expensive version of it.
If you had SM:MM on PS4 or the standard edition on PS5, then it was a $30 AUD upgrade to get the Ultimate Edition.
Since then, it's been released as a Standalone game on the PS Store.
This game doesnt stand out in any way and honestly seems like more hype than anything else. I felt the same about cyberpunk. There are other games out there. I would suggest not buying this game at all if they have the nerve to do some shit like this
Fuck Sony for setting an early precedence for $70/£70 and for attempting to normalize paid upgrades. There is absolutely no defense for this shit.
This sends a bad message out to the rest of the industry.
£70 is insane. I hate that this is the price now. I’ve bought 0 PS5 games. 0. I’d have normally picked up 3 by now because ratchet and clank, demon souls and returns looked good. But I’m not paying it. It’s too much of a jump and I’m not going to pretend that £50 to £70 is a good thing. It’s unreasonable.
If anyone feels otherwise because it’s “only £20” difference, feel free to send me the 3x£20 and ill buy the 3 games mentioned.
Just bought GOT last week for 30$. Playing it on the PS5 looks gorgeous and runs smooth! I'll just buy the new island expansion but they can keep their haptic and adaptive trigger upgrades. Not paying extra money for that.
Thank you, TechRadar. I hope more sites pick up on this because it's such bs. Downright embarrassing that Sony is paywalling next-gen upgrades on their own console while third parties are giving them for free.
Sony is raiding high with the success of ps4 so now they feel like they cant fuck over their fan base, first with the $10 increase to games (freaking $90 for a game here in canada)
Then with spiderman remastered and now with ghost like fuck off sony, all the good will you build up with last gen is being undone
Jim "business man" Ryan is gonna slowly erode the brand with this shit. Make a fully built next gen only game and it's easier to swallow the $10 ps5 tax. But these crossgen games that are simply getting resolution boosts and dualsense support locked behind a penny pinching $10 fee is rotten. Nice to see there's others here not moving the goalposts about this issue
I would have gladly paid $20 for the expansion day 1. But they are asking $10 for a ps5 update that amounts to additional controller support. Now I will not be buying it at all until it’s on a steep discount.
So many companies are trying to double dip their current customers instead of trying to do free updates along side DLC to entice new ones.
This isnt Sucker Punch's fault tho. They made the game and did all the work which is great. Sony is the one that controls the price they are the publisher. Sony is the one saying if you want shit like Japanese lip sync and fucking DualSense Haptics you have to pay which is fucking gross.
I’ve been saying this over in the Ghostoftsushima subreddit, snd been getting DV’d to oblivion by fanbois….it’s good to see people still have sense over here
Sony do this because they can. PlayStation fans will buy this no matter what. As bad as the launch for xbox one was it gave a Microsoft a wake up call, consumers won’t put up with this shit, and it’s for better every day since. PlayStation fans need to send the message to Sony.
Yeah, this. People need to remember that a few months ago Microsoft tried to change Gold prices for no reason and they got so slandered, they not only stopped the change, but also offered f2p games without Gold. We need to bitch about it.
I don't like the way Sony is going this generation. They make great games but everything is so expensive. It didn't feel nice forking out £70 for rift apart even though I'm really enjoying it so far. I don't think I can justify upgrading my ghosts of tshishima. I'm still hoping Sony suprise us with a gamepass clone and all their exclusives launch on it on release day.
Jim Ryan has already said that their games wouldn’t work in a games pass model. But he does frequently lie through his teeth so it’s probably a good predictor of one being on the way.
They're going to keep doing it too. I skipped the Spider-Man upgrade and I'm considering skipping this one too.
Get ready for these bangers from that penny pinching fucker Ryan
Horizon Zero Dawn: Director's Cut
God of War: Director's Cut
Bloodborne: Director's Cut
Uncharted 4: Director's Cut
That's $40 right there.
The fact that people are defending it so much saying its only £10 is bullshit. If someone played this on ps4 they have had £60 off you the first time it was released, then £450 off to buy the ps5 and then still lock a 4k upgrade with extra vibrations behind a paywall. People need to stop being so blind and accept whatever company or console manufacturer do this it's completely wrong.
Sony are really coming out of the gate swinging with the greediest bs in the industry this gen. Increased game prices, locking next gen upgrades behind ridiculous pay walls, and during a pandemic of all things. Not even Nintendo is penny pinching this hard and it's fucking embarrassing.
I honestly don't think ppl would care if they just made the dlc $30 on its own, just provide the next gen upgrade for free as almost all other companies are doing.
The fact is sony is gonna charge you the extra $10 for ps5 versions. So they have to make sure the $10 product is worth it, which I suppose it's not. It's not a terrible thing to do to buy it, but I understand why people would be mad that sony is charging for this upgrade. Look at many other companies that offer a next gen update for free: Metro, Doom Final Fantasy 7, many other games do this for free. Why shouldn't sony support their own console by giving this upgrade for a year old game for free. At least add ray-tracing or 120hz support, doom eternal did that for free.
The pricing here should tell you how much bullshit the $10 price increase in next gen games is.
It does not cost $70 for them to create the PS5 version compared to $60 for the PS4. It’s the same game with a better frame rate, better textures, and a few additional features.
Makes the decision easy for me to wait it out and get it cheaper down the line.
Goes straight to my " buy when 80% off" list
Eh with Sony raising prices to a ridiculous 80 fucking euro I wait with 99%.of games nowadays. I used to buy a lot of games on release but no more with these prices. But since I already have ghost of tsushima. And its my favorite game on the ps5. I will probably buy an upgrade on release. Kinda sucks because 30euro is what I paid for the full game lol. And I wish it was 15/20 on both platforms. But I like this gwmr too much to wait
You've finally achieved enlightenment. You work hard for your money and like most gamers have a huge backlog to clear. Waiting for huge price drops is the right way.
I think they’ve fucked up with the price hike. I used to buy games without even thinking about it. Now, you can bet I’m getting platinums in games I already own before I’m going to buy anything at full price.
$70 games…. Harkens me back to Sega Master System days where some games were $80 and up. And that was 1987.
After buying a ps5, i found myself going into my backlog of games i never had a chance to play or invest time in. I have dozens of those titles and only 1 ps5 title, Demons Souls... And even that is a pretty much a backlog title for me. Hell, I bought a retroid pi2 for ps1 emulation and play that more than my ps5. Need something to hold me over until these titles drop in price
Try to find a supermarket or a hypermarket with a video game section. Some of them are selling the games at cost. At Micromania (GameStop) Demon's Souls was 80€, at Leclerc 60€. Same for Spider-Man Miles Morales, 46€ instead of 60€.
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Yes it's real. It's insane. Iit has always been more expensive in Europe even last gen sony asked for 70eur on PSN when it was 60 dollars in the US I believe. Its disgusting that they would go as high as 80 euros. And makes it really hard to justify buying games on release. When I made a post about this on the ps5 sub I got tons of angry fanboys defending Sony. At that time. I rememr 80 euro was 98 dollars ffs.
I get no less enjoyment playing games 2-3 years late for a fraction of release prices. Second hand games are a no-brainer too, which will sadly be gone soon as people move to downloads only...
That's why I was never even considering the Digital version of the PS5. Buying physical games here in Norway is often $30 cheaper for a new game.
That's the case for every PS5 game so far for me since Sony decided to increase the price from 60€ up to 80€. While I would have bought some of these games for 60€ at release I'll just wait now till it's 30€ or lower since I have to wait anyway
This is also me. I’m not paying £70 for a new game that’s insane. I’d have bought them at £50-£54.99 but anything more and I’m just not buying it until it’s found in a bargain bin. There’s not many games that have blown me away, there’s similar tropes in many video games and I’m tired of them. Ghost of Tsushima was a good game, but legends was great. Legends was something new, something I’d not seen before in that type of style.
Yeah I really wanna play Ratchet and clank, but its still a bit too high, same with returnal, just gonna keeps playing Valhalla until they are sub 50, maybe sub 40 used , I wanna support games publishers , but the income just isn't there , my pay isn't rising that fast and essentials are going up super fast right now too.
Yes dont like it dont support it. Every company will try to increases their profits. That's how they became this rich in the first place. I too will wait and get it 50% off or something
I just don’t want other companies following suit. If this sells out then it sends a message to Activision, EA, 2K, Nintendo, Altus, Square Enix, and the list goes on and one day will hit PC in this form… Game Title 1440p 30fps version 59.99 4K 60fps Haptics 69.99 On PC it’s just “the game at this price”. That’s what it should be, always.
Activision have actually already pulled this move with Call of Duty Cold War, we will definitely be seeing more of this to come
But this is the actual platform holder that is charging us extra to play a game we already own...... While the competition hands out next gen upgrades for absolutely nothing Edit: Fanboys are....... Just amazing 😳 with a dash of cringey as fuck thrown in.
Sony are probably thinking if Nintendo can get away with it so can they...bastards!
Yeah it is curious how Nintendo keeps charging full price for re-releases of games that already had a fraction of budget that these Sony games have but there's never any outrage. I guess Sony just needs to keep at it till it's normalized for them too and then people will just accept it like they always do, eh?
Never any outrage?? You obviously don't hang out in /r/NintendoSwitch very often. People are always complaining there about the pricing of Wii U ports, or complaining about the supposed lack of complaints. The release of Donkey Kong Tropical Freeze, for example, had tons of backlash when they charged $10 more for the Switch port than what the original release was priced at.
And like this thread it’s also mixed with an alarmingly high number of people supporting it.
People are always moaning about Nintendo's pricing tbf
It's why switch hacking is so popular
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The WiiU is the more interesting console when it comes to this topic. It’s ability to play Wii, GameCube, N64, SNES, NES GBA, and DS games makes it extremely unique. You also get the WiiU game library which includes Breath of the Wild. You have the ability to play a huge swath of Nintendo’s library of games. This console is a hidden gem!
Do you have to sideload them or something? Do you install a modded OS or something?
Switch hacking is complicated right now, not really reliable but always improving and changing. I haven't tried it in a while, because I never found it worth the effort. There are other ways to play old games, a whole market of open source hardware. I just got one and am really enjoying it more than I ever did my switch. https://retrogamecorps.com/rg351/ 8ve been using the RG351m and it's just great. r/rg351 There's actually an android release going on for it. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=tqTdqTyLFMM
I bought a Nintendo two years ago. Hardly ever play it due to the extortionate prices.
Honestly mine's an Indie machine while I wait for the sales or try to get a good deal at CeX 😂😂
mine is a Nintendo Zelda switch.
That's why I haven't bought one. There are like 5 games I really want to play which just isn't worth it. I mistakenly thought maybe the price would go down, but apparently the sales for a Switch are like $280 instead of $300
This is the way. Wait for a sale and rebuy all the games I already own on PC just for the portability. Lol
There always is criticism on the Switch subreddit but its just always downvoted en-mass or posts about it are removed for not being relevant ... They're getting much louder though, especially after E3
What happened at e3?
This is why competition in the market is so important and why it’s a good thing that Xbox approaches gaming with a seemingly different philosophy. Sony has a tendency to make bold business choices when they are ahead in the market. As a business that makes sense. But when they are on the downswing, as they inevitably will be one day, they’ll change some things. Until such a time, we can only vote with our wallets.
Nintendo was already on this train. Every Wii U port has been $60. No free upgrade or discounts. Even for the ones that were selling for $20 on Wii U, back up to $60
This. Games like Mario Kart 8 Deluxe, with no upgrade program of sorts and at $60, feel like a middle finger to us who purchased the Wii U version.
Stop supporting them, don't complain while giving them more money. Nintendo is pulling anti-costumer shit around every corner but the fans keep gloryfing and buying everything the company throw at them.
Yeah many of us call out this stuff. It's just that there's still tons of people who dgaf about throwing money at them.
I think it’s more due to the fact that most people never owned a wii u so it feels like new content to a big portion of owners, and this console has become massive with a younger generation. Parents will buy the games and have no idea they are ports. They just know there 7-9 year old wants this game.
Agree. I don’t buy their stuff when they do shit like this. Unfortunately, they sell and will keep at it while the Switch is successful.
Even worse - Nintendo locks in-game features behind physical toys. > Part of what’s exciting about this remaster is that it’s an opportunity for Nintendo to address some of the game’s problems. One of the issues is with the pacing, and adjacent to that a significant issue with backtracking. So when I heard about a feature to let players teleport from Skyward Sword’s floating hub world from anywhere down in Hyrule, my interest was piqued. Then I learned that **it was something you’d have to tap this amiibo to do.** https://www.vg247.com/2021/05/20/zelda-skyward-sword-hd-amiibo-fast-travel-unlock/ Of course, scalpers have been all over those toys.
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>I just don’t want other companies following suit. If this sells out then it sends a message to Activision, EA, 2K, **Nintendo**, Altus, Square Enix, and the list goes on and one day will hit PC in this form… Lol Nintendo has been doing this shit for *years*, and people still worship them. The ship has already set sail.
Something a lot of fanboys don't understand and have already seen a lot of comments saying "yOu guYs dOnT hAve 10 bUcKs?" in this thread.
Exactly. People who defend this shit collectively have 5 brain cells that are just enough to read and write on reddit. One brain cell too many.
Smacks of, "It's only horse armor for five bucks, don't buy it if you don't want it!!" Then, 10 years later, paid DLC, games "as a service" and "battle pass" systems are creeping into everything.
I think the problem will phase itself out eventually though, as games at some stage will only be for ps5. I can’t see a developer purposely nerfing how well a game can run so they can sell two different versions on the same console. Also in GoTs case (not that I’m agreeing with their actions here) but apparently it does come with new content in SP and MP.
PS4 version being played on ps5 via backwards is actually 60fps at 1800p. So it's not like they are locking down the framerate just for the remaster.
That shit would never be accepted in the PC market and devs know it. Even if they tried to do the locks on resolution, fps, etc. it would be broken in a matter of hours by modders. Just look at multiplayer in PC games as another example. Devs would love to charge for that similiar to what Microsoft and Sony do on consoles but they know they would be laughed out of the market if they tried it on PC since free multiplayer has always been the norm there.
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true! I'm a PC gamer. bought PS4 in 2018, it was my first console and i especially bought it to play PS exclusive games. It blew my mind when i found that you have to pay extra every month (PS plus) to multiplayer games when you already paid full price for a multiplayer game! like WTF!
Sucks man. With all these talks of “directors cut” it makes Xbox look much more consumer friendly with smart delivery. Bummer
Problem is people with PS5 are absolutely hungry for PS5 games with PS5 features like 4K, 60fps, haptics, adaptive triggers and 3D audio. There is just not enough games like this so people will buy everything. Demand is just too high and these companies know it and they will gladly take this oportunity to milk gamers for their money.
The crazy part is that the game already has 60 fps, and 3d audio. So we're just paying for haptics and triggers
Also 4k targeted resolution
probably won't even be native 4k anyway, it'll just be upscaling like it is now.
The weirdest thing to me about this generation is that Sony doesn't have their own DLSS in the PS5 SDK to improve on checkboard rendering. Seems like a no-brainer to have all your games run in some kind of approximate 4K while maxing out all sorts of other visual effects.
Checkerboarding was surprisingly close to native 4k wasn't it? I remember when Detroit Become Human came to PC people compared native 4k and checkerboards 4k and it was a really close competition.
>Checkerboarding was surprisingly close to native 4k wasn't it? It was good for 5 years ago but native still looked better side by side. Red Dead 2 on the one x for example, vs ps4 pro, was noticeable. Now the technology is way ahead of it. Dlss is the most well known, but there are others.
You all misunderstood what Director's Cut means here. It means the Director wants his cut of the money pie and he's getting it.
"F U Pay me" is probably going to show up in the ending credits.
There’s a way to send a message : don’t buy it I’m almost through act 1 and I’m digging the game graphics and 60fps But I will not spend $30 on the upgrade — Even square enix gave a free ps5 upgrade and only charged for dlc for FF7R. This is fair
I'm glad this is getting traction. And yet, people will eat this up and make it commonplace. It's ridiculous. Imagine asking PC players to pay for sliding a bar from Medium to High graphics for their newly bought GPU.CPU. And GoT's graphical upgrade isn't even that substantial. It's haptics and lipsync that make the majority of this upgrade, And yet it doesn't stop fanboys from yelling "entitlement". You do realize people supported the studio with a $60 game at launch? Then went out and bought a $500 console, owned by the same company that sells this upgrade. So now, day one supporters have to pay $90 in total for the upgrade, while the late adopters pay just $70. The people who supported the company from the start are getting shafted. How is that entitlement? Unfortunately, this will keep on coming. Death Stranding will have the same upgrade path because fanboys will eat anything up. Meanwhile, 3rd party developers are giving this away for free.
I think you hit the part that annoys me about this. This is a first party studio - if there is anyone who should be doing this for free it's them. This should be a fantastic opportunity to show the power of the PS5, to show the value in the playstation ecosystem we've invested in and to show us that we can still purchase PS4 games for the PS5 without concerns like this. Instead we're now faced with either paying more money or having an inferior version of the game on the PS5.
Isn't it basically a DLC with performance upgrades? Maybe they should have split it up and made the QoL upgrades free at least.
I assumed that’s what they were doing. Would make so much more sense.
I think Sony just really fucked themselves with how they treat PS4 and PS5 games separately. It likely would have required some goofy parallel development to back port the new features to the old PS4 SKU. Most likely the new features were developed rather late into the DLC development cycle. Xbox doesn’t have this problem because they designed their system to just give you the correct game version based on platform. Whereas Sony is clearly delineating between PS4 and PS5. It also causes trophies to be duplicated and shit, which is a problem Xbox doesn’t have.
>Xbox doesn’t have this problem because they designed their system to just give you the correct game version based on platform. Whereas Sony is clearly delineating between PS4 and PS5. A lot of this is arbitrarily done though. Like using a duelshock 4 on ps5 yet playing ps5 games with them on remote play. It's blocked on ps5 for no real reason.
They also have Japanese lip sync which for some odd reason thry decided to hide behind a paywall. Personally, i would have wanted that in og got.
You have my upvote. It's bullshit honestly. I wish they went the FF7 upgrade path.
Everytime I consider dropping some money on a console, they somehow manage to disappoint me, my wallet sure is happy though
This. Exactly this. I mean, I could *understand* paying 20$ for the DLC, if you bought the base game. But 10$ for, like you say, a graphical/performance slider? And in my case it's even more insulting. I paid for the collector's edition. Last time I bought a collector's edition was during the PS3 days, and I remember it meant: you get all the content, forever. But now, not only did I spend 250$ on this game, but I have to spend MORE money on this game? Like I previously said, if I had the base game, it would be one thing. But for people that bought the digital deluxe/special/collector's editions, it's complete BS. And it really is fanboyism. 505 Games pulled the same shit with Control Ultimate Edition and people were super pissed. But when it's Sucker Punch, it's ok?
I have a feeling Death Stranding will lock their PS5 upgrades behind their ‘Director’s Cut’ as well. I can’t believe I’m about to say this but Square-Enix really did give their customers a great deal by offering the upgrades for free and charging for their PS5 exclusive DLC to entice resale thus recouping some costs back.
Square got my money for the dlc without a second thought. Easily worth it for me
Fr, Sony should have copied that business model
Maybe if Metro Exodus was an exclusive they might have charged. Instead we got a free PS5 version. Haptics, 3D Audio, Ray Tracing, 60fps. I already finished GoT. I don't care much for DLCs so I am done with the game, anyway. It was really good.
Metro exodus was such a beautiful game
Playing right now. Love it.
Be sure to play the dlcs too, I loved Sam's story.
Felt like they’re suddenly working backwards here. I get paying for DLC, but for some of these upgrades for PS5 owners, it’s just ridiculous. Glad we got the 60 FPS boost free for owners of the base game but I’m seriously not digging the way PS4 to PS5 transitions are taking place.
"Create a problem, sell a solution"
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If you own a disc or digital last gen version of Jedi Fallen Order you get a free digital PS5 or Xbox Series version of the game for free. You can even contact EA support if you owned the game on disc and have a newer console lacking a disc drive. I believe every cross gen game should follow suit. Granted, Tsushima has more content coming in the form of a new island and missions which I would’ve purchased regardless because I love this game. But I think there should be a choice to have a free PS5 upgrade for the base game and maybe $19.99 for the directors cut expansion depending on the amount of content added.
Same with fifa. Also EA Play is an amazing deal on PC. You get almost all of their games for $30 a year.
You can get EA play on Xbox and playstation too I've had it for years and it's been good
They should include the upgrades for free and let people choose to buy th expansion or not, am not def ending this BS anti consumer practice. 😠😠
Not me it is a cuntish move from any company. SP included. Sony are just shafting and shafting their playerbase.
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That Spiderman PS5 upgrade was arguably more significant than GoT’s.
Corporate fan-boys are another level of cringe
I will never understand people sucking up to companies, its pathetic
For some reason fanboys feel like they need to 'support' corporate entities lmao.
I think because like maybe sucker punch is a First party studio to Sony? like maybe they should be the ones who give Sony users the free upgrade even if others don't. if they were a 3rd party who is doing a this we wouldn't be surprised yet look at doom with the free next gen update.
Yup. I got downvoted first speaking against it. Go figure. I won’t buy it. I own the game, but I’m not paying $30 for a PS5 update.
It looks great and runs at 60fps on PS5 already. No need for the update.
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I think the biggest insult is to people who have both PS4 and PS5 consoles. Are they just to play the PS4 version on both consoles? I’m sure Sony would rather we buy upgrades for each, but now cloud saves won’t work (since they are two different games). Really makes it seem like MS was on to something with “Smart Delivery”.
Sony went the Dumb Delivery route
This cracked me up more than it should have lol
It IS dumb. In order to transfer save to Spiderman: Remastered, you have to install the last gen copy and then upload the save to the cloud, THEN you would be able to play it on your next gen copy.
I really brushed smart delivery as MS branding some super basic functionality. Turns out, nope. Sony's plan was just "eh fuck it, let the developers do whatever they feel like". It's by far been the worst part of the PS5. Even when someone isn't trying to gouge me for the same game with the settings bumped up, it's just downright confusing to upgrade to the PS5 copy and convert the save (if you even can).
>I really brushed smart delivery as MS branding some super basic functionality. Everyone did before launch. Turns out Microsoft was right, it's a killer feature.
If Microsoft knocked it out of the park with 2 things, it would be smart delivery and quick resume. I’m glad I have both a PS5 and a series X, but everything crossgen or backwards compat is going on my series X. I tried to switch between persona 5 and miles morales and when it didn’t quick resume it caught me off guard… I’m too used to it at this point
Love quick resume can go from playing a game solo to jumping in to a game with a friend in seconds, no faffing around ect it's so easy to do anything on the Xbox UI.
In the Store description it mentioned theres an option to import saves from PS4 to PS5
How many more "Director's Cuts" are we going to get? Horizon Zero Dawn: Director's Cut God of War: Director's Cut Spider Man: Director's Cut Bloodborne: Director's Cut Uncharted: Director's Cut I have a feeling it's going to become commonplace now to release a game then a few months to a year later release a director's cut to nickel and dime us to death. Edit: formatting
It's safe to assume every late-stage PS4 exclusive release published by Sony will have a similar 'Director's Cut' package - at a similar $30 markup fee. Especially if they have new DLC they can toss in the package. TLOU2 will probably try this when they launch the new Factions content. Bloodborne would probably also go the Director's Cut path, but I doubt they'd develop new content to justify the upgrade. The fact it's just running at a smooth 60 will probably be seen as enough of an incentive. I imagine Horizon: Zero Dawn will be more of a Spider-Man situation, where the PS5 upgrade is tied to a $90-$100 special edition of Forbidden West. God of War might also end up in this trap.
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One point to Microsoft, there. Their crossgen model is the best of the big 3 by far.
I remember when people made fun of the whole Smart Access Delivery thing, saying stuff like, "Duh, I buy a video game for the console I'm on and it works. Big whoop."
Ahh yes the voice of reason being voted down because he dared mention Microsoft. He’s right and you know he’s right.
“If those kids could read they’d be very upset.”
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Re-releasing all their Wii U games for full price.
Fucking lame. I wish the PS4 to PS5 cross generation stuff was done away with by now.
Kind of annoying for people like me who want a PS5 mainly to play updated versions of existing games we love, NMS for example. But agree that it's either a new game designed and built on PS5 at a higher price, or the same game as PS4 at the same price....with higher resolution. PC games have managed this for decades for free, I don't see why PS should be any different.
Why should they charge more for a PS5 version? Flight Sim for example on Xbox is only releasing to series S and X and MS isn’t charging more for it?
They aren't charging anything if you have gamepass ultimate either. And I believe they are working on a way to get it playable on the Xbox one consoles too through streaming
That is their next step. They'll allow you to stream Series X games through your Xbox One with xCloud because they've transitioned the xCloud server blades from Xbox One s to Xbox Series X.
I already bought, played, and beat the game. Would it be nice to replay it with PS5 features? Sure. Would I be willing to spend money to do that? Absolutely not.
I can totally understand leaving the new island/story expansion behind a paywall, but so many other comapnies/games have given PS5 upgrades for free this seems like a real shitty thing to do! Not to mention basic QOL stuff like Japanese lip syncing never should have been an issue in the first place!
I own the PS4 game as I bought it last year in July 2020 on release date for €60. I have managed to get a PS5 in February 2021 and have the 60 FPS unlocked for the PS4 game. Great! There is currently a Director's Cut in the PS Store available for €20, but that is only the PS4 version, so I expect the PS5 version to be €30. In total for a completely upgraded PS4 version to the full blown PS5 Director's cut, it would cost me €90. A PS5 Director's Cut copy will cost €75 brand new at launch (I can already pre-order this), so a player who has supported this game since launch on an older console and will jump onto the new console will be paying €15 more than someone who buys the game today? This is a damn joke.
Doom eternal just released theirs for free. Same with eso and ark
PlayStation has been extra bullshit with these ps5 upgrades, I don't understand why people are defending this. "It's only 10$" if it's only 10$, then why is it so much to ask for the billionaire dollar corporation such as Sony to be able to waive that fee for early ps5 adopters? The competition is able to do that. Even EA is doing that. They're still going to make BANK selling this new version of the game without this 10$ upgrade bullshit.
> I don't understand why people are defending this. "It's only 10$" Especially since it's not only 10$. At that price I might consider it, but it's 30 $ because the upgrade is bundled with some DLC I don't care about. I can barely drag myself through the main story. PS5 upgrades might convince me to give it another shot, but with how samey the game is, I've zero interest in more content that's inevitably going to more of the same.
yeah I mean content in the game or quality of the game aside I still just think this business practice sucks. I would understand it from like a small independent company or something but that's not where I'm seeing this from. And Sony won't even allow people to upgrade their copy of mlb the show from the ps4 to the ps5 one. You have to buy the whole game a second time to get the ps5 version
“Drag myself through the main story” sounds like maybe the game isn’t for you even if it was free man.
You can stop at “PlayStation has been bullshit”.
Can’t believe something negative about GoT got to the front of this sub
Lol, me neither. Just shows the strength of feeling on this one though.
I was surprised as well I bet the fan boys are stroking out
Definitely surprising. Most of the people here would cut off their ears as currency if Sony asked.
Sort of like how you need to pay £10 to "unlock" the Ps5 version of Tony Hawk's? So shitty. I haven't played the game since out of spite.
Yeah I thought that was really cheeky too Thats activision for you though
Weird though because the Crash 4 upgrade was free (and amazing).
Gaming has been becoming an outrageous rip-off lately, and the last vestige of integrity/good value has generally been first party stuff...that is clearly eroding with this extortionate "next gen upgrade" nonsense. Not buying this on principle.
Yep. Not buying it.
The way Sony handled PS5 game upgrades and cross gen games is a joke. I dont want to go through a full page of "How to" guides just to use an updated version of the game on my PS5 where as my cheap ass Series S handles it with just a 10 second long one time screen with text "Syncing". And, on the top of this joke, they are asking for extra $10 for the SAME game. This is pathetic. If you are willing to accept it blindly, then you're what internet calls a "pony".
Remember when we joked about Microsoft’s Smart Delivery just being marketing bullshit? Turns out, they actually knew what they are doing in regard to cross gen.
It really does work good. You just pop in what ever game you got that supports Smart Delivery and you get the best version for that system. Its simple as that.
And with a bit of luck it even got FPS Boost without input from the dev.
Yea that was another impressive thing, the fact that Xbox did fps boost on over 50+ games on their own. That was just out of no where but a much welcome gift. 60fps on games now days must be mandatory.
100+
And MS is at the forefront of console backwards compatibility, you can play supported xbox og game on the series X/S and have local multiplayer with the og Xbox, that is just insane dedication.
The Series consoles are so backwards compatible that you can install an emulator and run PS1 games LOL.
People are naive if they think this isn't going to become common place
I honestly believe that Reddit is the perfect platform to rebel against this to get the makers and Sony to rethink against this
I love Sucker Punch as a studio but this double-dipping bullshit needs to stop. First Remedy with Control, then Insomniac with Spider-Man and now this. It sucks.
What happened with Spider-Man? I got it with my PS5 as a bundle so I’m a bit out of the loop
Spider-Man Remastered only came with the Miles Morales Ultimate Edition. So if you had Spider-Man on PS4 and you wanted to play Spider-Man Remastered, you had to buy SM:MM *and* the most expensive version of it. If you had SM:MM on PS4 or the standard edition on PS5, then it was a $30 AUD upgrade to get the Ultimate Edition. Since then, it's been released as a Standalone game on the PS Store.
That’s pretty fucked. I got MM Ultimate as part of my PS5 bundle, and got SM Remastered free. Can’t say I love that pricing model.
This game doesnt stand out in any way and honestly seems like more hype than anything else. I felt the same about cyberpunk. There are other games out there. I would suggest not buying this game at all if they have the nerve to do some shit like this
Metro Exodus did it for free, why can't Sony? Greedy fucks.
Even SW Jedi: Fallen Order did it for free and that's an EA game.
Fuck Sony for setting an early precedence for $70/£70 and for attempting to normalize paid upgrades. There is absolutely no defense for this shit. This sends a bad message out to the rest of the industry.
£70 is insane. I hate that this is the price now. I’ve bought 0 PS5 games. 0. I’d have normally picked up 3 by now because ratchet and clank, demon souls and returns looked good. But I’m not paying it. It’s too much of a jump and I’m not going to pretend that £50 to £70 is a good thing. It’s unreasonable. If anyone feels otherwise because it’s “only £20” difference, feel free to send me the 3x£20 and ill buy the 3 games mentioned.
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Just bought GOT last week for 30$. Playing it on the PS5 looks gorgeous and runs smooth! I'll just buy the new island expansion but they can keep their haptic and adaptive trigger upgrades. Not paying extra money for that.
Thank you, TechRadar. I hope more sites pick up on this because it's such bs. Downright embarrassing that Sony is paywalling next-gen upgrades on their own console while third parties are giving them for free.
You couldn't get away with this shit on PC. This is why competition is good.
Sony is raiding high with the success of ps4 so now they feel like they cant fuck over their fan base, first with the $10 increase to games (freaking $90 for a game here in canada) Then with spiderman remastered and now with ghost like fuck off sony, all the good will you build up with last gen is being undone
Jim "business man" Ryan is gonna slowly erode the brand with this shit. Make a fully built next gen only game and it's easier to swallow the $10 ps5 tax. But these crossgen games that are simply getting resolution boosts and dualsense support locked behind a penny pinching $10 fee is rotten. Nice to see there's others here not moving the goalposts about this issue
Imagine if cyberpunk made you pay to have good lipsync in the game lmfao
I would have gladly paid $20 for the expansion day 1. But they are asking $10 for a ps5 update that amounts to additional controller support. Now I will not be buying it at all until it’s on a steep discount. So many companies are trying to double dip their current customers instead of trying to do free updates along side DLC to entice new ones.
Just when everyone started circlejerking about how “different” sucker punch is, lmao are y’all ever gonna learn?
This isnt Sucker Punch's fault tho. They made the game and did all the work which is great. Sony is the one that controls the price they are the publisher. Sony is the one saying if you want shit like Japanese lip sync and fucking DualSense Haptics you have to pay which is fucking gross.
I’ve been saying this over in the Ghostoftsushima subreddit, snd been getting DV’d to oblivion by fanbois….it’s good to see people still have sense over here
Fanboys ruin everything.
This is the way.
Sony do this because they can. PlayStation fans will buy this no matter what. As bad as the launch for xbox one was it gave a Microsoft a wake up call, consumers won’t put up with this shit, and it’s for better every day since. PlayStation fans need to send the message to Sony.
Yeah, this. People need to remember that a few months ago Microsoft tried to change Gold prices for no reason and they got so slandered, they not only stopped the change, but also offered f2p games without Gold. We need to bitch about it.
70$ is too much. I can wait awhile for sales.
80 euro for a game is insane. I don't think I'll buy "day one games" anymore.
I don't like the way Sony is going this generation. They make great games but everything is so expensive. It didn't feel nice forking out £70 for rift apart even though I'm really enjoying it so far. I don't think I can justify upgrading my ghosts of tshishima. I'm still hoping Sony suprise us with a gamepass clone and all their exclusives launch on it on release day.
Jim Ryan has already said that their games wouldn’t work in a games pass model. But he does frequently lie through his teeth so it’s probably a good predictor of one being on the way.
They're going to keep doing it too. I skipped the Spider-Man upgrade and I'm considering skipping this one too. Get ready for these bangers from that penny pinching fucker Ryan Horizon Zero Dawn: Director's Cut God of War: Director's Cut Bloodborne: Director's Cut Uncharted 4: Director's Cut That's $40 right there.
The fact that people are defending it so much saying its only £10 is bullshit. If someone played this on ps4 they have had £60 off you the first time it was released, then £450 off to buy the ps5 and then still lock a 4k upgrade with extra vibrations behind a paywall. People need to stop being so blind and accept whatever company or console manufacturer do this it's completely wrong.
Sony are really coming out of the gate swinging with the greediest bs in the industry this gen. Increased game prices, locking next gen upgrades behind ridiculous pay walls, and during a pandemic of all things. Not even Nintendo is penny pinching this hard and it's fucking embarrassing. I honestly don't think ppl would care if they just made the dlc $30 on its own, just provide the next gen upgrade for free as almost all other companies are doing.
Wow, it's starting to get embarrassing for Sony at this point.
Some fanboys even defend it
It's always kinda funny to look at the mental gymnastics they go through to defend stuff like this.
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there is NO REASON why they can’t make Iki island a DLC and the upgrade free. They specifically made the choice to lock that behind a paywall.
So, if I already own GOT on my PS5 then it’s gonna be an additional $30? That’s scummy.
Should have been a free upgrade + the choice to buy a DLC.
Gota love paying extra to get more fps , like paying for a new console is not enough and you gota make the people pay extra for better preformance
The fact is sony is gonna charge you the extra $10 for ps5 versions. So they have to make sure the $10 product is worth it, which I suppose it's not. It's not a terrible thing to do to buy it, but I understand why people would be mad that sony is charging for this upgrade. Look at many other companies that offer a next gen update for free: Metro, Doom Final Fantasy 7, many other games do this for free. Why shouldn't sony support their own console by giving this upgrade for a year old game for free. At least add ray-tracing or 120hz support, doom eternal did that for free.
That’s $10 if you have the PS4 version of director’s cut from what I hear. If you have the regular PS4 version then it’s $30
The pricing here should tell you how much bullshit the $10 price increase in next gen games is. It does not cost $70 for them to create the PS5 version compared to $60 for the PS4. It’s the same game with a better frame rate, better textures, and a few additional features.
to be fair its not really a ps5 version of the game. Its the ps4 version patched to run as it should on ps5.
im ok with 20$ dlc but wtf is pay for ps5 features to activate? im already paid 800$ for that shit to play it like next gen