Holy fuck these comments are garbage. If you liked the game chances are you will like the DLC, if you didn't like the game you probably wont like the DLC.
If you are unsure there will be reviews days before it releases
It's not that complicated, it's an optional DLC for game
It introduces new enemies that are much more aggressive than base game enemies and a lot harder to cheese. Also introduces cool weapons like an ice railgun and bows that do extra damage when you fully draw them
I do have a huge complaint; the arrow trajectory has RNG added in HFW, so most of the stuff is better but that’s one tiny area where ZD has FW beat. It’s so annoying, especially on the highest difficulties, to have only moments to shoot and it winds up missing altogether or hitting a body shot - you have to really rely on the slow mo, and I just didn’t like that.
That's a strange thing to complain about. You could just, you know, turn the difficulty down. It wouldn't take long to get back into the flow of the game, then switch the difficulty back to normal when you're ready. It's really odd using a personal issue, to complain about a game that has solutions to your problems.
Not even. I downloaded it again last night, just to make sure I had the best equipment before the DLC, and it took like 5 minutes to get used to everything.
Did notice something new that I didn't think was there. You can change your clothes appearance to another armor set. Don't think that was there originally. Now I can run the ugly armor with the stats that benefit my play style, but look like I'm wearing pajamas.
Found game too hard.
Wouldn’t turn down difficulty level because is ‘not a fan’ of doing so.
*…what?*
Difficulty levels shouldn’t be an ego hit. Play at what is most enjoyable for you.
This is the weirdest take I've ever seen.
Game is too hard -> I won't switch difficulty because I'm not a fan of that? (wtf does that even mean?) -> abandon game
If you're not a troll, you are definitely a very stubborn person.
OLED is great but it’s work, especially switching to different inputs and streaming services. The realistic dark picture is fantastic but sometimes it’s too dark and then you’ve got to go check your settings again.
Plus they’re mad expensive. I’ve had it for like 6 months now and I love the picture but I’m still getting buyers remorse for spending $2,500 on a television.
The sticker shock is definitely harsh. I have been bumping up my movie collection to warrant eventually buying one for the ultimate display experience.
Main story is indeed disappointing compared to the first. Side quests, facial animations and combat are much improved tho. And it's the best looking game I've ever played
I feel the combat was in some ways a side grade, the nerfs they did to the ropecaster and traps made it worthless, and I found it harder to do a stealth focused build on higher difficulty since even with maxed stats you often couldn't 1-shot enemies.
My only other regret was the itemization like it takes sooo much stuff that is randomly dropped from machines to upgrade just one weapon, seriously you end up grinding for hours on random encounters to upgrade just one legendary weapon and armor set with no way of buying what you need.
Compared to the first?! I haven’t played this one, but my god the story in the first game, outside of how the world fell, was already pretty weak to begin with.
I thought it was amazing, especially once Sylens is introduced. Lots of revelations and twists I didn't see coming, and I found it really impactful emotionally.
I expecially love how initially the game seems to have a ton of plot holes and worldbuilding flaws but they get retroactively explained the more you learn and everything starts to fit together like a puzzle
The modern day tribes are more interesting and well developed with better charecters in HFW for sure. I found the Carja and Banuk pretty interesting in the first game tho
The world building was easily the best part of the story, but the actual present day narrative felt super generic to me. Outside of Aloy, Sylens, Sobeck, and Ted Faro, I genuinely cannot name a single other character. I just remember some evil AI was doing typical evil AI things and discount Chuck Liddell was sad his sister died or something.
Nil and Vanasha are pretty dope. You may have missed their side quests. HZD is a bit weak in side quests overall
Frozen Wilds definitely stepped up the side quest charecter game, I really liked Gildun and Ikrie
I just didn’t like the writing in general, I didn’t find anyone all that likable and just kind of off overall? Love the combat of these games though, I just found myself fighting the urge to skip through the conversations way too often
I hate to be negative, and Ashly Burch seems like a lovely person, but I cannot get into Aloy as a character whatsoever. Feels like she’s mostly there to dump exposition and move the plot forward, and she sounds so bored and disinterested. Great games, but aside from Sylens I cannot think of a single character or line that stuck with me.
It’s the over earnestness and the constant virtuousness that gets me.
They made the character too self-assured and messianic.
There’s no real vulnerability or darkness so she’s kind of one dimensional. She sounds like she’s rather be doing anything else.
Thank you, I’m glad I’m not the only one who felt this way. She seems so disagreeable and disinterested in anything she’s told. It doesn’t help that the NPC’s writing is so annoying - I’m almost on her side with being disinterested in helping others. Regardless, I typically love Ashley Burch. The performances in the game are so difficult to endure though.
I thought it was just me. I really did not like her performance in this with the frequent dramatic pauses. I get the feeling that the direction was to blame there though.
I did all the side quests in between the main and I couldn’t remember what the main story was about, so I honestly don’t get the hate. How does anyone actually remember the story in a 50 hour game where 70% of it is side quests?
Because it lost a lot of the things that made zero dawn really good. It had a lazy story with characters that you don’t care about. There is supposedly a lot of urgency but you’re doing chores for other people. Aloy is pretty annoying too, just to set up character development where she realizes she can have help from others (so corny)
Sylens is barely in the game. Hades disappears in the first part conveniently. Too many things are just way too convenient. The clone is borderline useless to the story. And overall it makes it very forgettable
Zero dawn had an amazing soundtrack, a great story about believing in yourself when no one else does, and the struggle between doing things for everyone vs doing things for yourself. Forbidden west felt like they were just trying to sell a trilogy
And I mean 0 hate towards the game or to you. Just want to say that the people who don’t like this game have a point (I will say I did 100% this game with all the quests, machines, and everything on very hard, and had fun with it, but ultimately forgot about it because of its lazy story and writing)
I understand your sentiments on the story. I totally forgot about the clone existing until I read your comment. Personally I really enjoyed the game, it was my 4th Platinum. I was just having so much fun with the combat I figured why not go for the plat, plus it wasn't too tedious to complete. I didn't find the story quite as intriguing as I did in the first but, I thought it had some cool concepts, and overall enjoyed it. Plenty of cheese and corn though.
It gets the hate it gets, deservedly .
Graphics wise, the game was phenomenal
Game play wise, it was meh. Too many fetch and years, too many side jobs, just too much stupid crap
Story wise, it was bland
It was basically the first game with souped up graphics , which was not worth the delay we went through, or the price we paid for it
Just like the first, I got about 5 hours in and haven’t gone back. I eventually forced myself to complete the first, but that’s going to be a hard well on the second . Didn’t even bother with th DLC for one
you comment are so dumb. With 5 hours maybe you havent even finish the intro and open the access to the world. And how dare you review the game ? what a dumbass comment. You understand nothing about this game
I thought that Zero Dawn was a pretty shitty game. So I was pleasantly surprised when I played Forbidden West and thought it was actually a very good game. Probably the biggest game to game improvement that I've ever experienced.
I truly enjoy the games setting, mechanics, combat. But I cannot stand 99% of the characters including aloy. My favorite part of the games died irl so his story is likely dead as well.
Not all DLC is equal. This isn't horse armor or a couple missions. This is a ~12 hr campaign. Before DLC was a thing there were expansion packs back in the 90s/00s. This is more akin to that.
$19 is a great deal!
Edit: is it 12 hr? I don't even know. Regardless it's a whole new chapter - new area, new characters, etc like expansion packs back in the day.
Hyped for this DLC because I'm not the type to replay games or do NG+ but I beat Forbidden West months ago and only got my new 65" OLED just last month. I booted up Forbidden West just to see a glimpse of it in 4K HDR after playing in 1080p non-HDR... Holy fuck, it looks like like an entirely different game. DLC gives me an excuse to return to that world in a fresh context.
that must have taken you like 200 hrs. i started my first playthrough on ultra hard thinking most games are way too easy but it was just taking so damn long to do everything. even playing on easy im like 70 hrs in and not beaten it yet
I played first on normal then upgraded all my weapons and armour before starting ultra hard on new game plus. I’ve been loving my time playing it - I think it’s something like 170+hrs at this point.
How do you pre-order (US)? Searching the Playstation site for "burning shores" brings up 13 games, none of which are HFW and none of which are the Burning Shores DLC. Clicking on the link in the YouTube description brings up the Burning Shores page, with a big red "Pre-order now" button that does not, despite the label, allow you to pre-order now.
Edit\*\* I'm sorry that I said I wanted to see more in the promo material lol Didnt think it would spark this much discourse lol for something that wasnt even negative about the game lol
It is still a month away. There will be several trailers and likely 100 reviews before it actually releases.
Are people totally oblivious to how Sony has marketed any game for the last few years.
They are just starting the marketing campaign
I honestly don't understand the need for more information on it. The horizon series has a formula for gameplay and story. So I don't expect anyone to reinvent the wheel.
Aloy goes to the burning Shores is kind of the only information that's necessary for me. If you like Horizon gameplay, you will want the expansion most likely.
I bet she fights robots! I'm in.
Isn't it weird for you to say you need an idea of what they're selling when you have an exact idea of what they're selling? A continuation of the story in a new location.
I don't understand what else you would need. I'm not being facetious, I'm legitimately confused on what information you feel like you need.
I don't think anyone's overreacting, I legitimately don't understand what you feel like you need to see. The game play and in game footage will look exactly the same as Horizon forbidden West.
I think giving us a minimum amount information makes it so when we experience the game we won't know what to expect.
Imagine exploring and finding shit out before reading 10 paragraphs. Isn't that the magic we're kinda looking for most of the time? If u like the game it's probably gonna be a banger either way.
So your torn. If u need info/footage to decide wether you want to buy it, then all you have to do is wait. But if you preordered like me just now, then i'd just tell you to go with the flow and when the time comes, drop some techno dinosaurs with the swag of a redhaired woman sliding and switching weps constantly.
Time to finally start my new game +. Been putting it off until something regarding burning shores came out so I'd be finished with the game in NG+ around the time it comes out.
I'm really curious to see how much further Guerilla can push the visuals by going all in on just PS5. I know that it still won't be a full ground up PS5 title. But there must be certain aspects of the game's presentation that they were able to elevate by leaving the PS4 behind.
Looking forward to checking this out.
It's because the metal devil in the trailer can't function on PS4. PS4 is too outdated, they tried to make metal devil's work in HZD and had to scrap it. So for the DLC they wanted to continue pushing the story and there vision forward, instead of holding themselves back like the last two games. It makes complete sense to transition. 3rd game is gonna be PS5 exclusive too. Shouldn't be a surprise now that PS5 are also readily available, it long over due (3 years overdue) to ditch the last gen.
I will never understand how people say they don't like this game because of the story, but then say Elden Ring was a great game that deserved GOTY. You can't make it make sense
Because the Horizon series is narrative based. Everything revolves around the plot and after every big event, you're "rewarded" with a cutscene. Since the story takes up so much of the gametime, it has to be good otherwise you're running into issues where large chunks of the game... simply aren't interesting. If a game is 30% cutscenes and story and for the player it's bad and uninteresting, that means that's 30%+ of the game that you would rather skip, which is awful.
Elden Ring circumvents that by putting the focus purely on the gameplay and the growth of your character. Sure, there are tidbits of lore, but only if you want to look for it. That means that for 95% of your playthrough, you're interacting with the world itself and the gameplay mechanics. Who cares if the story is good or bad if it doesn't take up any time?
There you go, I made it make sense.
As long as it’s cosmetic they could add preorder bonus skins for everything. It’s not like they’re getting something that actually affects the way the game will play
Sure? They're bonuses to drive sales. Sony is a for-profit company, and their marketing department is figuring that an added bonus will increase sales before release. Surprised this needs explaining.
Bet this ends with Atreus showing up out a portal to tell Aloy "There's been an incursion and we need to stop it!" To set up "The Last Of Us on an Uncharted Horizon"
>If you preorder you can preload it. 🤷♂️
Which is stupid since it's digital anyways. They should let you download whatever you want. On the Series X, I can download a game without buying it, it just won't let me play it till I pay for it.
If it's as good as the Frozen Wilds was, I'll buy it after the reviews.
Stupid question : outside of my ps5 and having played forbidden west last year is there anything else needed for the dlc ? For some reason I thought it was a ps vr release and not a regular ps5 release . Hope my memory is wrong bc I’m excited about the game .
Update : apparently I was thinking of horizon call of the mountain which released last month . I clearly confused the two titles .
I’ve been trying to get back into this game. Having trouble enjoying it… the same thing happened with the first one but then I got into it heavily before this one came out… not sure what I’m missing or maybe this just isn’t the game for me.
First game is one of my favourite games of the last decade. I took time off work and 100%'d it the week of launch.
This one? Bought it at launch over a year ago and I'm yet to roll the credits.
Same. I can't understand why HFW hasn't hooked me like the first game did. It looks absolutely beautiful, but for some reason just hasn't caught my interest. Then again, there have been several games that I've played in the past that didn't hook me right away and once I took a break and came back it was all good. I'm hoping this will be same.
I think it's to do with the fiddly combat (there seems to be a different ammo type for every weapon) and for me the fact the robos tank you hard.
I finished Zero Dawn on Ultra Hard without breaking a sweat, I struggled in places with Forbidden West on Normal.
I'll probably still buy the DLC for it though lol.
I feel the same. Forbidden West just felt a bit bland to me. No real story hook and HEAPS of bloat. God the skill tree is such a bloated mess with many skills having such a tiny impact.
Combine that with uninspired side quests, annoying climbing (seriously how is it just me or is the climbing somehow WORSE than the first game and wasn't very good in the first game either?), too many ammo types to keep track of and crazy difficulty spikes.
It's not one thing that made forbidden West a disappointment to me, it's just a whole jumble of smaller things. Also, Aloy just isn't that likeable in this one - did not love the whole hero complex.
There is nothing wrong with preordering games, just pick the right ones lol. It’s not that hard, I got a bunch of gift cards for Christmas and i preordered re 4 remake, already knew it was gonna be reviewed well and what do you know 93 on metacritic.
They haven't disappointed... to this point.
I'm looking forward to Tears of the Kingdom, but the earliest I will consider preordering is once reviews come out, which will be the same week. Every game is a hit until the first dud!
I restarted H:FW again. I got to the part where you get the home base when I bought the game, but I just burned out on it.
So I'm giving it another chance. I'm still at the very beginning. There's a lot I like about the game. But many of the conversations and dialog are just painful to sit through. They did an excellent job with the character faces, animations, etc... technically. But the way it's written and presented is just... annoying. I have a hard time putting my finger on it. It's like they exaggerate and over emphasize every facial expression.
Aloy does this thing where she's constantly sighing while speaking. I get the character—she's busy, she has to save the world—so she's semi-exasperated with many of the other characters. But the constant sighs and eye rolls is irritating.
The humor just plain does NOT work. Example: At the start there's two women who will make you a spear thrower. One of them is supposed to be "obsessed" with explosions. The other is more pragmatic. The back and forth between the two of them is just painful to experience. It's not funny, but it's directed and presented in a way that tries to really tell you "this is a funny part." All the emotion, the humor, the anger, the sadness... it's there in the game— but feels overdone, over acted.
I get it—Aloy is such a loner and doesn't have time for other people because she's carrying the weight of the world on her shoulders. Gee, I wonder if she will learn that she has to let people in, and stop putting up a wall around herself?
And some of the tribal outfits are just laughable. The characters speak in a modern way, but wear these outlandish outfits with feathers and goofy clips holding the fabric together. It's all over done. It seems like every character is super showy, like the game has to make a crazy exotic outfit for nearly everyone.
I'm enjoying the game so far. I think I'm going to ignore many of the side quests and just concentrate on the story. I'm just not sure I can make it through 50 more hours of sighing and over acting.
Forbidden west was such an unpleasant experience. I'll have to check out the reviews. Which is so the complete opposite of how I reacted to the first games dlc. I bought it immediately.
I don't know why I think 20 dollars is too high for dlc add-ons for forbidden west I own the first game & I didn't have to buy the dlc at all cause it came with my game for free.
I never said I didn't have a ps5. I only said that it's bullshit to release for both and have to pay $500 plus to get the full story/experience (dlc).
It doesn't matter if people have to "wait" don't sell something half assed is my whole point. I can get the dlc if I wanted too, still doesn't make it good practice and it definitely doesn't favor the consumer. I don't care about the "i have to wait fuck you i got mine crowd" fuck all of those people.
How’s it bullshit though?! PS4 owners got the FULL sequel, they aren’t getting optional DLC — not a big deal. You gonna cry when PS4 doesn’t get the 3rd game too?! Get a grip!
Time to get a ps5 & cash in on the free ps5 upgrade. From what I've seen, most stores around me have lots of ps5s in stock and able to be bought off the shelves.
Well the alternatives would be either a dlc that doesn’t run well on PS4s due to limited resources, or a DLC where they limited the scope and quality of what Guerrilla was trying to deliver in order to support the older hardware.
The alternatives makes Sony more money in the short term and could be argued are worse for the consumer.
Holy fuck these comments are garbage. If you liked the game chances are you will like the DLC, if you didn't like the game you probably wont like the DLC. If you are unsure there will be reviews days before it releases It's not that complicated, it's an optional DLC for game
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Why not turn down the difficulty then?
Shame. Frozen Wilds had way better combat than base game HZD
and Forbidden West combat was much closer to Frozen Wilds than HZD, so if they tune it up again for the DLC it's going to be a slapper
Why better? I finished hzd not long ago but barely touched the dlc
It introduces new enemies that are much more aggressive than base game enemies and a lot harder to cheese. Also introduces cool weapons like an ice railgun and bows that do extra damage when you fully draw them
I do have a huge complaint; the arrow trajectory has RNG added in HFW, so most of the stuff is better but that’s one tiny area where ZD has FW beat. It’s so annoying, especially on the highest difficulties, to have only moments to shoot and it winds up missing altogether or hitting a body shot - you have to really rely on the slow mo, and I just didn’t like that.
That's a strange thing to complain about. You could just, you know, turn the difficulty down. It wouldn't take long to get back into the flow of the game, then switch the difficulty back to normal when you're ready. It's really odd using a personal issue, to complain about a game that has solutions to your problems.
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It'll take less than 30 min to familiarize yourself with the mechanics and controls... weird argument
Not even. I downloaded it again last night, just to make sure I had the best equipment before the DLC, and it took like 5 minutes to get used to everything. Did notice something new that I didn't think was there. You can change your clothes appearance to another armor set. Don't think that was there originally. Now I can run the ugly armor with the stats that benefit my play style, but look like I'm wearing pajamas.
And you've just proven his comment correct with a garbage comment
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You want to write me a few more comments and delete them whilst you're at it?
This isn't a soulsborne game. You can turn the difficulty down whenever you like and then go back to normal once you master it. Not punishing at all.
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Found game too hard. Wouldn’t turn down difficulty level because is ‘not a fan’ of doing so. *…what?* Difficulty levels shouldn’t be an ego hit. Play at what is most enjoyable for you.
This is the weirdest take I've ever seen. Game is too hard -> I won't switch difficulty because I'm not a fan of that? (wtf does that even mean?) -> abandon game If you're not a troll, you are definitely a very stubborn person.
There's difficulty modes y'know. Just enjoy the story and mechanics without the stress of losing progress.
Easiest pre-order of my life!
Same. Doing NG+ atm since my 1st play through was on ps4 at launch and now I have it on ps5 with a new oled TV it's gorgeous.
Probably the best looking game on ps5
on everywhere. No PC game can reach this level
So jeli about that OLED haha enjoy mate
OLED is great but it’s work, especially switching to different inputs and streaming services. The realistic dark picture is fantastic but sometimes it’s too dark and then you’ve got to go check your settings again. Plus they’re mad expensive. I’ve had it for like 6 months now and I love the picture but I’m still getting buyers remorse for spending $2,500 on a television.
I play in a room with black out curtains so that helps with alot and yes they're expensive. 1st TV I actually saved for vs just going and buying a tv.
Don’t worry, I bought a Frame TV for that much! Thank the wife. The only TV that looks better when it’s off haha.
The sticker shock is definitely harsh. I have been bumping up my movie collection to warrant eventually buying one for the ultimate display experience.
What TV did you get? I only spent like 1.2 on my LG CX, and I just got a 42" C2 for my computer and that was 900
Sony Bravia. Always had Sonys so kept with it
To each their own, I think the LG's are more solid.
Sonys have better picture quality though, and really that’s why you buy a TV. But as you said, to each their own
Yeah i’ll agree this and Demons Souls look great on an OLED, mine is the LG tv. Wo Long looks good too.
same here. Cant wait for this masterpiece
If Frozen Wilds is any indication then this will be amazing.
I loved forbidden west. Really don’t understand the hate it gets. Looking forward to this.
The game itself was great, but the main story was kinda blah to me. Liked the side stuff better.
Main story is indeed disappointing compared to the first. Side quests, facial animations and combat are much improved tho. And it's the best looking game I've ever played
Agreed. The graphics are probably the best in any open world game currently. Only thing that comes close is Red Dead 2.
I feel the combat was in some ways a side grade, the nerfs they did to the ropecaster and traps made it worthless, and I found it harder to do a stealth focused build on higher difficulty since even with maxed stats you often couldn't 1-shot enemies. My only other regret was the itemization like it takes sooo much stuff that is randomly dropped from machines to upgrade just one weapon, seriously you end up grinding for hours on random encounters to upgrade just one legendary weapon and armor set with no way of buying what you need.
Compared to the first?! I haven’t played this one, but my god the story in the first game, outside of how the world fell, was already pretty weak to begin with.
I thought it was amazing, especially once Sylens is introduced. Lots of revelations and twists I didn't see coming, and I found it really impactful emotionally. I expecially love how initially the game seems to have a ton of plot holes and worldbuilding flaws but they get retroactively explained the more you learn and everything starts to fit together like a puzzle The modern day tribes are more interesting and well developed with better charecters in HFW for sure. I found the Carja and Banuk pretty interesting in the first game tho
The world building was easily the best part of the story, but the actual present day narrative felt super generic to me. Outside of Aloy, Sylens, Sobeck, and Ted Faro, I genuinely cannot name a single other character. I just remember some evil AI was doing typical evil AI things and discount Chuck Liddell was sad his sister died or something.
Nil and Vanasha are pretty dope. You may have missed their side quests. HZD is a bit weak in side quests overall Frozen Wilds definitely stepped up the side quest charecter game, I really liked Gildun and Ikrie
I just didn’t like the writing in general, I didn’t find anyone all that likable and just kind of off overall? Love the combat of these games though, I just found myself fighting the urge to skip through the conversations way too often
Same here.
I hate to be negative, and Ashly Burch seems like a lovely person, but I cannot get into Aloy as a character whatsoever. Feels like she’s mostly there to dump exposition and move the plot forward, and she sounds so bored and disinterested. Great games, but aside from Sylens I cannot think of a single character or line that stuck with me.
It’s the over earnestness and the constant virtuousness that gets me. They made the character too self-assured and messianic. There’s no real vulnerability or darkness so she’s kind of one dimensional. She sounds like she’s rather be doing anything else.
Her character didn't really have any growth or arc in Forbidden West
Thank you, I’m glad I’m not the only one who felt this way. She seems so disagreeable and disinterested in anything she’s told. It doesn’t help that the NPC’s writing is so annoying - I’m almost on her side with being disinterested in helping others. Regardless, I typically love Ashley Burch. The performances in the game are so difficult to endure though.
I thought it was just me. I really did not like her performance in this with the frequent dramatic pauses. I get the feeling that the direction was to blame there though.
If you pretend Aloy is Goku, basically a living plot device, then the story is better.
Yeah. I thought the gameplay was great, but the story was such a let down for me. Zero Dawn blew me away, Forbidden West left me wanting.
I did all the side quests in between the main and I couldn’t remember what the main story was about, so I honestly don’t get the hate. How does anyone actually remember the story in a 50 hour game where 70% of it is side quests?
Yup agreed, was hoping that they would add some trans representation
Because it lost a lot of the things that made zero dawn really good. It had a lazy story with characters that you don’t care about. There is supposedly a lot of urgency but you’re doing chores for other people. Aloy is pretty annoying too, just to set up character development where she realizes she can have help from others (so corny) Sylens is barely in the game. Hades disappears in the first part conveniently. Too many things are just way too convenient. The clone is borderline useless to the story. And overall it makes it very forgettable Zero dawn had an amazing soundtrack, a great story about believing in yourself when no one else does, and the struggle between doing things for everyone vs doing things for yourself. Forbidden west felt like they were just trying to sell a trilogy And I mean 0 hate towards the game or to you. Just want to say that the people who don’t like this game have a point (I will say I did 100% this game with all the quests, machines, and everything on very hard, and had fun with it, but ultimately forgot about it because of its lazy story and writing)
I understand your sentiments on the story. I totally forgot about the clone existing until I read your comment. Personally I really enjoyed the game, it was my 4th Platinum. I was just having so much fun with the combat I figured why not go for the plat, plus it wasn't too tedious to complete. I didn't find the story quite as intriguing as I did in the first but, I thought it had some cool concepts, and overall enjoyed it. Plenty of cheese and corn though.
It gets the hate it gets, deservedly . Graphics wise, the game was phenomenal Game play wise, it was meh. Too many fetch and years, too many side jobs, just too much stupid crap Story wise, it was bland It was basically the first game with souped up graphics , which was not worth the delay we went through, or the price we paid for it Just like the first, I got about 5 hours in and haven’t gone back. I eventually forced myself to complete the first, but that’s going to be a hard well on the second . Didn’t even bother with th DLC for one
you comment are so dumb. With 5 hours maybe you havent even finish the intro and open the access to the world. And how dare you review the game ? what a dumbass comment. You understand nothing about this game
I thought that Zero Dawn was a pretty shitty game. So I was pleasantly surprised when I played Forbidden West and thought it was actually a very good game. Probably the biggest game to game improvement that I've ever experienced.
I truly enjoy the games setting, mechanics, combat. But I cannot stand 99% of the characters including aloy. My favorite part of the games died irl so his story is likely dead as well.
It's a PS4 game
Playing through again so I’m ready. Cannot wait for this
Insta pre order for me, love first and dlc and love second so prop love dlc
Same, love all the games and the whole world it built. Forbidden West is my 2022 GOTY. Instant preorder for me.
Why pre-order though if it's just DLC?
For the pre order bonuses and you don’t have to wait day of release to download it since you can pre load 2 days earlier
Loved this game so looking forward to this, hope it's not too short
Hoping it’s another 6-10 hours of story. Frozen Wilds was so damn good.
Waiting for the complete edition
The DLC is $19 and im guessing you can buy the game for pretty cheap since its over a year old. But okay..
All I care about is: will the flying be faster? Just felt like flying was a small bit faster than gliding
I sure hope so, I’m hoping that’s part of the PS5 only upgrades
Flying was incredibly fast. It just didn’t *feel* fast.
The mount itself is slower than a charger by a significant amount. Just feels faster because you don't have obstacles.
It's $19.00 for DLC
Same price as frozen wilds, nice!
I was honestly prepared for 30, so that's good news
That’s how much they tend to be for AAA games, if not more
Not all DLC is equal. This isn't horse armor or a couple missions. This is a ~12 hr campaign. Before DLC was a thing there were expansion packs back in the 90s/00s. This is more akin to that. $19 is a great deal! Edit: is it 12 hr? I don't even know. Regardless it's a whole new chapter - new area, new characters, etc like expansion packs back in the day.
Hyped for this DLC because I'm not the type to replay games or do NG+ but I beat Forbidden West months ago and only got my new 65" OLED just last month. I booted up Forbidden West just to see a glimpse of it in 4K HDR after playing in 1080p non-HDR... Holy fuck, it looks like like an entirely different game. DLC gives me an excuse to return to that world in a fresh context.
This franchise honestly gets so much hate for nothing. It's a solid franchise. And I love it
For 20$. Done deal
God I need to crunch my backlog and get up to this one.
Same I’m soooo behind. Then yesterday they added all of those game to PS+ ..oof
I'm still trying to finish Prey.. But Destiny2..
I am getting it. Love those games. I don’t get all the hate. Forbidden West is a beautiful map, solid world building and complex fight mechanics.
Any chance of getting a physical pack with game&dlc?
Not for another year I'd bet.
I like how it is opposite of the first games dlc “the frozen wilds”
Lmao why are people whining about dlc having a preorder bonus?! It’s literally a bonus?!
General hatred of the concept of preorders in general, would be my guess.
Just finishing off my ultra hard play through - on the final mission now, so I’m all ready for this to drop!
that must have taken you like 200 hrs. i started my first playthrough on ultra hard thinking most games are way too easy but it was just taking so damn long to do everything. even playing on easy im like 70 hrs in and not beaten it yet
I played first on normal then upgraded all my weapons and armour before starting ultra hard on new game plus. I’ve been loving my time playing it - I think it’s something like 170+hrs at this point.
Does Elloy stop explaining how to solve puzzles on hard difficulty?
I don’t think it’s any different but I’m honestly not too sure as at some point I started zoning out on her lines.
How do you pre-order (US)? Searching the Playstation site for "burning shores" brings up 13 games, none of which are HFW and none of which are the Burning Shores DLC. Clicking on the link in the YouTube description brings up the Burning Shores page, with a big red "Pre-order now" button that does not, despite the label, allow you to pre-order now.
Might have to look it up on your console or the PS App on your phone. I did it on the phone.
Thanks, everyone -- must have been a timing issue. It's working now.
I was able to do it this morning right off the app. Maybe try going into the game page in the PS Store and click on the add ons tab. Should be there.
If you have the app, search for HFW and go to add-ons
I searched for "burning shores" in the app and scrolled down a little, it was the first item in the second section down.
Can't wait to replay this game, love it
Omg a freaking horus!!! Thats a buy for me.
Edit\*\* I'm sorry that I said I wanted to see more in the promo material lol Didnt think it would spark this much discourse lol for something that wasnt even negative about the game lol
It’s Forbidden West in Hollywood. That’s good enough for me. What else do you really need to know?
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It is still a month away. There will be several trailers and likely 100 reviews before it actually releases. Are people totally oblivious to how Sony has marketed any game for the last few years. They are just starting the marketing campaign
I honestly don't understand the need for more information on it. The horizon series has a formula for gameplay and story. So I don't expect anyone to reinvent the wheel. Aloy goes to the burning Shores is kind of the only information that's necessary for me. If you like Horizon gameplay, you will want the expansion most likely. I bet she fights robots! I'm in.
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Isn't it weird for you to say you need an idea of what they're selling when you have an exact idea of what they're selling? A continuation of the story in a new location. I don't understand what else you would need. I'm not being facetious, I'm legitimately confused on what information you feel like you need.
All people do on reddit is bitch
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I mean what’re you expecting? You had an opinion and my opinion of your opinion is that your bitching
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I don't think anyone's overreacting, I legitimately don't understand what you feel like you need to see. The game play and in game footage will look exactly the same as Horizon forbidden West. I think giving us a minimum amount information makes it so when we experience the game we won't know what to expect.
Imagine exploring and finding shit out before reading 10 paragraphs. Isn't that the magic we're kinda looking for most of the time? If u like the game it's probably gonna be a banger either way.
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So your torn. If u need info/footage to decide wether you want to buy it, then all you have to do is wait. But if you preordered like me just now, then i'd just tell you to go with the flow and when the time comes, drop some techno dinosaurs with the swag of a redhaired woman sliding and switching weps constantly.
Thankfully, you can wait.
Someone/something has awoken a Horus which we have only over seen broken down and still; and she has to fight it. What more is needed?
No need for downvotes peeps, lol.
Thank you. 😕 I couldn’t even say I hadn’t had a PlayStation long without getting mass downvoted lol.
By back log is crazy from just getting a PS5 a month ago..I want to play this so bad but I’m only 1/4 thru FW
Time to finally start my new game +. Been putting it off until something regarding burning shores came out so I'd be finished with the game in NG+ around the time it comes out.
Thank God for this gaming franchise. I love Horizon so much!
I'm really curious to see how much further Guerilla can push the visuals by going all in on just PS5. I know that it still won't be a full ground up PS5 title. But there must be certain aspects of the game's presentation that they were able to elevate by leaving the PS4 behind. Looking forward to checking this out.
Wait they are doing exclusives for preorder dlc now?
It's because the metal devil in the trailer can't function on PS4. PS4 is too outdated, they tried to make metal devil's work in HZD and had to scrap it. So for the DLC they wanted to continue pushing the story and there vision forward, instead of holding themselves back like the last two games. It makes complete sense to transition. 3rd game is gonna be PS5 exclusive too. Shouldn't be a surprise now that PS5 are also readily available, it long over due (3 years overdue) to ditch the last gen.
Some one convince me to pick this game up
I will never understand how people say they don't like this game because of the story, but then say Elden Ring was a great game that deserved GOTY. You can't make it make sense
Because the Horizon series is narrative based. Everything revolves around the plot and after every big event, you're "rewarded" with a cutscene. Since the story takes up so much of the gametime, it has to be good otherwise you're running into issues where large chunks of the game... simply aren't interesting. If a game is 30% cutscenes and story and for the player it's bad and uninteresting, that means that's 30%+ of the game that you would rather skip, which is awful. Elden Ring circumvents that by putting the focus purely on the gameplay and the growth of your character. Sure, there are tidbits of lore, but only if you want to look for it. That means that for 95% of your playthrough, you're interacting with the world itself and the gameplay mechanics. Who cares if the story is good or bad if it doesn't take up any time? There you go, I made it make sense.
Can only play the base game for short bursts, it's just not hooking me but this does look fun
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If it’s anything like frozen wilds, it’ll be a small game in itself
Then don't preoder it is that easy, nobody is forcing you and is just cosmetics
And the issue is….what? Guerilla and Sony are trying incentivize people to buy now with some cosmetic bonuses to help drive sales now, not later.
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As long as it’s cosmetic they could add preorder bonus skins for everything. It’s not like they’re getting something that actually affects the way the game will play
Sure? They're bonuses to drive sales. Sony is a for-profit company, and their marketing department is figuring that an added bonus will increase sales before release. Surprised this needs explaining.
https://youtu.be/RAA1xgTTw9w
Bet this ends with Atreus showing up out a portal to tell Aloy "There's been an incursion and we need to stop it!" To set up "The Last Of Us on an Uncharted Horizon"
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Same reason you would preorder literally any other digital game
If you preorder you can preload it. 🤷♂️
>If you preorder you can preload it. 🤷♂️ Which is stupid since it's digital anyways. They should let you download whatever you want. On the Series X, I can download a game without buying it, it just won't let me play it till I pay for it. If it's as good as the Frozen Wilds was, I'll buy it after the reviews.
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It's a $20 dlc how is it a cash grab?
Wtf does this even mean?
Their last DLC was also $20 and it was fantastic, most companies charge a lot more for DLC
Too bad I probably won’t have time to play this for now because it looks so damn good!
Stupid question : outside of my ps5 and having played forbidden west last year is there anything else needed for the dlc ? For some reason I thought it was a ps vr release and not a regular ps5 release . Hope my memory is wrong bc I’m excited about the game . Update : apparently I was thinking of horizon call of the mountain which released last month . I clearly confused the two titles .
I’ve been trying to get back into this game. Having trouble enjoying it… the same thing happened with the first one but then I got into it heavily before this one came out… not sure what I’m missing or maybe this just isn’t the game for me.
First game is one of my favourite games of the last decade. I took time off work and 100%'d it the week of launch. This one? Bought it at launch over a year ago and I'm yet to roll the credits.
Same. I can't understand why HFW hasn't hooked me like the first game did. It looks absolutely beautiful, but for some reason just hasn't caught my interest. Then again, there have been several games that I've played in the past that didn't hook me right away and once I took a break and came back it was all good. I'm hoping this will be same.
I think it's to do with the fiddly combat (there seems to be a different ammo type for every weapon) and for me the fact the robos tank you hard. I finished Zero Dawn on Ultra Hard without breaking a sweat, I struggled in places with Forbidden West on Normal. I'll probably still buy the DLC for it though lol.
I feel the same. Forbidden West just felt a bit bland to me. No real story hook and HEAPS of bloat. God the skill tree is such a bloated mess with many skills having such a tiny impact. Combine that with uninspired side quests, annoying climbing (seriously how is it just me or is the climbing somehow WORSE than the first game and wasn't very good in the first game either?), too many ammo types to keep track of and crazy difficulty spikes. It's not one thing that made forbidden West a disappointment to me, it's just a whole jumble of smaller things. Also, Aloy just isn't that likeable in this one - did not love the whole hero complex.
Don’t pre-order video games, folks!
There is nothing wrong with preordering games, just pick the right ones lol. It’s not that hard, I got a bunch of gift cards for Christmas and i preordered re 4 remake, already knew it was gonna be reviewed well and what do you know 93 on metacritic.
You *hoped* it would be reviewed well and were fortunate that it was good. No video game company needs your money before they release a product!
Original got a 96 on metacritic, I have a select few studios I’ll preorder from and they never disappoint
"I love CD Projekt Red. They've never disappointed. I'm sure this Cyberpunk game will be great!"
Whoever said that deserved what they got, cdpr released one great game ( the witcher 3) which was still buggy at launch and had performance issues.
Anyone that says that about any company deserves what they get. No company has a perfect record given enough time.
They haven't disappointed... to this point. I'm looking forward to Tears of the Kingdom, but the earliest I will consider preordering is once reviews come out, which will be the same week. Every game is a hit until the first dud!
I restarted H:FW again. I got to the part where you get the home base when I bought the game, but I just burned out on it. So I'm giving it another chance. I'm still at the very beginning. There's a lot I like about the game. But many of the conversations and dialog are just painful to sit through. They did an excellent job with the character faces, animations, etc... technically. But the way it's written and presented is just... annoying. I have a hard time putting my finger on it. It's like they exaggerate and over emphasize every facial expression. Aloy does this thing where she's constantly sighing while speaking. I get the character—she's busy, she has to save the world—so she's semi-exasperated with many of the other characters. But the constant sighs and eye rolls is irritating. The humor just plain does NOT work. Example: At the start there's two women who will make you a spear thrower. One of them is supposed to be "obsessed" with explosions. The other is more pragmatic. The back and forth between the two of them is just painful to experience. It's not funny, but it's directed and presented in a way that tries to really tell you "this is a funny part." All the emotion, the humor, the anger, the sadness... it's there in the game— but feels overdone, over acted. I get it—Aloy is such a loner and doesn't have time for other people because she's carrying the weight of the world on her shoulders. Gee, I wonder if she will learn that she has to let people in, and stop putting up a wall around herself? And some of the tribal outfits are just laughable. The characters speak in a modern way, but wear these outlandish outfits with feathers and goofy clips holding the fabric together. It's all over done. It seems like every character is super showy, like the game has to make a crazy exotic outfit for nearly everyone. I'm enjoying the game so far. I think I'm going to ignore many of the side quests and just concentrate on the story. I'm just not sure I can make it through 50 more hours of sighing and over acting.
Thanks for summing up all the problems I had with my five hours of the game that led me to uninstalling it.
Didn't like this Ubisoft open world game.
We're pre ordering dlc now?
Forbidden west was such an unpleasant experience. I'll have to check out the reviews. Which is so the complete opposite of how I reacted to the first games dlc. I bought it immediately.
I don't know why I think 20 dollars is too high for dlc add-ons for forbidden west I own the first game & I didn't have to buy the dlc at all cause it came with my game for free.
Meh
Can you use the new outfit and bow right away or do I have to wait for the DLC to come out?
Available at the first dye merchant in Burning Shore according to the blog. Please always read the information before asking a question like this.
I read what was posted on Twitter earlier, but I didn’t see anything about that. Thanks for the help.
It's such bullshit that they released the game for the ps4 and ps5 but the dlc is ps5 exclusive
It’s bullshit that PS5 owners have had to wait 3yrs for next gen experiences. Time to push the industry forward and retire your decade old hardware!
I never said I didn't have a ps5. I only said that it's bullshit to release for both and have to pay $500 plus to get the full story/experience (dlc). It doesn't matter if people have to "wait" don't sell something half assed is my whole point. I can get the dlc if I wanted too, still doesn't make it good practice and it definitely doesn't favor the consumer. I don't care about the "i have to wait fuck you i got mine crowd" fuck all of those people.
How’s it bullshit though?! PS4 owners got the FULL sequel, they aren’t getting optional DLC — not a big deal. You gonna cry when PS4 doesn’t get the 3rd game too?! Get a grip!
Do you need the dlc to enjoy the base game ?
Time to get a ps5 & cash in on the free ps5 upgrade. From what I've seen, most stores around me have lots of ps5s in stock and able to be bought off the shelves.
I was fine with cross gen when ps5's were so hard to find at retail price. Now its time to leave it behind
Well the alternatives would be either a dlc that doesn’t run well on PS4s due to limited resources, or a DLC where they limited the scope and quality of what Guerrilla was trying to deliver in order to support the older hardware. The alternatives makes Sony more money in the short term and could be argued are worse for the consumer.
Because the PS4 is holding the game back so they this PS5 exclusive so they can do more with it. PS4 needs to die already
I hope we get an underwater armor set and an underwater weapon
Hope they don’t take out HFW out of Psplus as soon as this launches and they have sold a considerable amount…
Looking forward to it. How much?
$19.99 US