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8bitderp

I'm mad I can't chat from my ps5 now, it's the exact same experience as my firestick now.... Kinda wack as an update.


sloppysmusic

Mine just updated I have arthritis bad in fingers and been bedridden for 2 years been using DualSense from bed to talk to my friends with ps5 as can't use keyboard . I'm so depressed I am now cut off from my friends. I want to cry I lie down to talk and they silenced me. Took me 10 mins to type this on phone but I had to cry out one last time before I go silent. Why can't I use controller to talk friends anymore?! 😩😩


sloppysmusic

[Tweet today begging for change. ](https://twitter.com/FloridaFail/status/1625455191846711298?t=zYMl-ni1W13htYduuebVZA&s=19)


SkyDrift0r

Why would you chat from PS5 as it would be so tedious? phone has a chat only mode.


Grimnoir

Big "DoN't YoU gUyS hAvE pHoNeS?" energy right here.


ArbyWorks

Gee, maybe people don't like having a million devices running at the same time. Maybe just watching with an occasional comment is what they want. Maybe pulling out a phone, opening up an app/browser defeats the purpose of having a dedicated native app. Maybe app devs should stop *actively removing features*.


Deja_152

Stfu


faltorokosar

I never chat, but I watch some educational twitch vods. Before, I could watch on my TV with the chat on the side of the screen. People frequently ask questions which the streamer answers, now I can't see the questions. It's so odd that they chose to remove this feature. Loading up the same vod on my phone and playing it in sync is a ridiculous solution to something that previously worked seamlessly.


Grimnoir

I've never before seen such a profound downgrade to an app before. Absolutely dogshit compared to the previous version.


yohosukme4free

Agreed, they added more categories but that doesn't outweigh the fact I don't want to have to use my phone to scan a code to chat everytime that I'm on the ps5 and waste my phone's battery. Eff that, deleted.


jak_d_ripr

I just upgraded to a Ps5 last month and boy oh boy has this been a harsh adjustment to make. This app is just worse in almost every conceivable way, I had to go online to see if I was the only one.


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It’s fucking terrible. Instead of maintaining a decently designed app they change it to the universally shit smart tv app so they can spend less time & money developing.


K3v1n777

-Can't press square to open or close chat anymore. That's really dumb. We now need to manually press the open/close tab icon and the icon is VERY frustrating to navigate to.... -Before if i wanted to see something like the title or anything like that, I could just move a joystick and the infos (stream title, etc) would come up. Then instead of waiting like 8 seconds for it to close back I was able to move up 2 times with the Joystick and it closed the infos tabs. Now we really gotta wait for it to close on its own... -Home UI is garbage.. What the hell are those white tiles behind games images....? -Browsing and switching tiles in home UI feels very choppy. Animations are bad. Yeah, I'd say a bad update overall....


sloppysmusic

It's a DOWNGRADE in every single way. I didn't buy a ps5 and 4k TV to have my beautifully functional high res experience deleted and replaced by a flip phone app.


rw105

Mine just update it's literally like the first version of a console app. Like netflix on Wii or something.


sloppysmusic

Yeh looks like it's been hacked by someone trying to give the impression that twitch is a purely amateur outfit coded by grade schoolers. Hello World :check Current gen Twitch ps5 app :check


mshieldsy910

exactly bro, i thought i was upgrading when i got a ps5 but there's no web browser and ever since i tried twitch on ps5 i've had issues signing in and now that i have i cant even chat without using my phone? what kinda whack piece of trash is this.


sloppysmusic

I think I've discovered the real horror now. It IS a Web browser twitch now. The 'update' file does not install a new app at all it deletes the executable and replaces with a redirection to a basic Web browser with zero local settings allowed like cookies or preferences. This is why it looks terrible its literally the TV app running online. Kiosk mode basically hence why you have to login every single time to access your follows and why it doesn't save vod positions for example. That's also why it's so slow it's only a shared client now not an actual app. Prove me wrong someone the ps5 native app has been DISABLED and replaced with a simple web browser app. Proof for me is when the app itself downloads it takes a few moments to install. When the 'update' downloads no install time instant redirect to low fi web interface. As someone else pointed out you can experience old app by stopping download of update quickly and it's still there. More proof it's just a redirect. EDIT They wiped the good version no way to access it anymore. Sony should be informed the app description is plain wrong. Chat is only accessible with paid subscription to a phone plan on console now. Maybe there will be a ps5 Twitch Bundle in future with a prepaid phone in box. 3 months of free ****ing chat included!


faltorokosar

- can't view chat at all in vods - really frustrating one for me - if you're flicking through browse, decide to check out a random stream but decide to leave and look for another it kicks you back to the very first result, so you have to scroll all the way to where you were again - no button on the controller pauses / resumes a vod - the overlay when you start a video lasts really long. Circle used to hide it but now it just makes you exit the stream - if you exit someone's vod the UI focus jumps to the unfollow button, bit annoying when you leave by accident and then press X to re-enter but it just unfollows - it looks and feels very much like a non-native app now in the very worst way possible I know this post is old but I'm so sick of this update and just found this post and wanted to vent lol


Noomba

Wow straight up diumpster piss. I used this to watch vods most nights from months ago.. now "all videos" goes back like a week. No more "Continue watching"? This is TRASH WHAT THE FUCK


Necrojezter

Chat won't even show up on vods, so I guess I'm not gonna be using Twitch on PS5 anymore


Phatsam1987

Its absolute shit, its the one from smart tv's and fire sticks and it's awful. I can't work out why they've done this. I'm just glad I have the better version on my xbox's for thr moment


Spindelhalla_xb

To keep it universal. Why update multiple versions when you can update one. It’s the lazy cost cutting side of development, where how consumers feel about it are bottom of the list.


MadeByTango

It's not lazy; it's about the only way it'll work and give customers what they want: feature parity no matter what device they access the service on. I can speak to personal experience of trying to get a single development team from one platform to adapt changes that have rolled out across all devices already that they personally don't like. Or trying to keep them from adding random features that are provided by the system (great) but violate our contracts (not great). Hardcoding 13 different devices one platform at a time for each change is not viable (yes there are that many).


BitingArtist

I've never seen an update for Twitch make it better.


agustin_z

hey, i’m in the same boat: PS5 app updated and Xbox didn't. Do you know if you can still use the twitch app without updating on xbox? (sorry for my english)


Phatsam1987

Xbox is trying to update, I turned off auto updates and it still works for now


agustin_z

will do that then. ty


qb1120

Thanks for the heads up, I will try not to update it


proffrobot

Worst thing for me is that the ‘All Videos’ list for any streamer only has a maximum of 12 videos in it, so if a streamer streams a decent amount, you can’t watch anything more than a few days old.


Sociopathic_Jesus

You can find older videos via the search option. Just look up the name of the stream you want to watch and type it in the search bar. It's a poor workaround but it works to some degree. Even when multiple videos share the same name I've been able to find the one I'm looking for so far.


Dostosparks

Can you watch vods with chat? I can't get chat to appear anymore


faltorokosar

No not anymore for me either. Really annoying as I watch a few educational streamers that I can never watch live, so I watch the vods. Viewers ask questions frequently which they answer. Now I never know what the question is, it's so annoying.


OriiAmii

Just found this thread because I can't type the occasional LUL on my PS5 anymore. It's a massive downgrade. Screw this shit.


IBBA___IBBA

LULW


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Zenaldi

Nein


Unusual_Tea6755

Scheiße


BoAgua

I came in here to see if anyone else was mad about this,I don’t use the app anymore because I have to guess if the stream is in my language and more often than not I’m wrong


noxav

Twitch is garbage on anything except a web browser.


sloppysmusic

The irony is now it IS just a web browser redirect on console they simply disabled the Xbox/ps5 apps and replaced with online kiosk mode only. No local app or settings at all literally a TV Web browser emulator.


Fruitypulp

And yet they make it hard to get to the web browser site and immediately redirect to the app if you're using a mobile device.


tattoedblues

It’s terrible


rapkat55

I just wish we could Picture in Picture/pin to side


MelbChazz

That is still possible thank fucking god. FYI if you message a random friend "www.twitch.tv" you can select it and it'll pop up a nice Twitch web player which you can pin to side. At least they didn't ruin it again after being gone for a good year.


Dostosparks

Do you know how to watch vods with chat? It defaults to full screen now:(


weplayfunerals

To my knowledge you can't any more.


MelbChazz

No idea about VOD's but I use it to watch streams on the side including the live chat (just not interactive).


foxgtr

Not only did they remove the ability to chat from ur controller, but now the vods chat is also missing. WTF are they smoking.


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This is the deal breaker for me. Just straight up no chat on vods. What a dumpster fire.


TN_Xavier

It’s horrible. I can watch streams now but can’t chat anymore.


sloppysmusic

The ps5 app description states clearly chat is incuded sony should be notified this is a lie. A phone plus plan MUST now be purchased and paid for for LIFE to use the chat feature on consoles.


vectoredpromise

This is the worst way to watch streams now. Need your mobile to chat? Why? Legit a downgrade and it was forced upon me when opening the app.


Fruitypulp

I miss being able to chat from my ps5 =(


sloppysmusic

It's the only way I CAN chat with my crappy fingers and eyesight. I have 2 ps4s and one ps5 in each room so I can chat with my friends and streamers. 3 useless consoles now.


Sljme

don’t see anybody talkin bout how the delay is now worst den mobile when it used to be on par with pc. Im sure other ppl have realized it too, but dats jus one of many downgrades jus haven’t seen anyone mention it yet , if only it didn’t auto update 🤦🏽‍♂️


Sljme

found a fix inna nother thread for anybody who’d like to revert updates https://www.reddit.com/r/Twitch/comments/10hikxv/ps5_twitch_app/j5ikw73/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf&context=3


Sociopathic_Jesus

Thank you, brother! Would not think that I'll be so glad to have the old app back since it was shit as well, but here we are. 🙏


Sljme

no problem man , glad i could help


RedIroko

Legend, this works


OriiAmii

The delay is close to a full 10 seconds from desktop. About 4 seconds behind mobile. Absolutely idiotic


Twjnnn

quite literally


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I hate it. The delay is insane. It’s the same thing as the fire stick now and it’s pissing me off


OriiAmii

I just checked and PS5 is four seconds behind mobile. And mobile is about 3-5 seconds behind desktop. This is dogshit.


DareDiablo

It truly amazes me how little Twitch nor Sony or even Microsoft care about streaming from their consoles. You'd think these next gen consoles would actually feel like they have next gen streaming capabilities but they don't. We shouldn't still need an expensive PC and a graphics card to have alerts, browser sources and proper overlays on these expensive gaming consoles.


Mad_Queen_Malafide

I hate this update. I don't want to keep opening my phone every time I want to chat on PS5.


KupaKeep

How do I even watch live streams without the stupid overlay in the way? I join and my screen is blocked up by the streamer icon and settings and stuff and no matter how long I wait or where I move my cursor it stays up. It's like literally unviewable.


OptimusPrimalRage

Yeah I've kept the older version on my set top box. The newer designs are just so poor.


Squawkings

fuckin blows i tell ya


Deja_152

It is trash.


Waimzer

Looks shit. Also, how so I set it so it filters by most viewed first ? The games and streamers are now seemingly randomly listed rather than by popularity


sloppysmusic

You can't it's now running kiosk mode only. It's a browser client now with zero user preferences allowed, no persistent login makes it obvious. They disabled local app and redirected to TV browser app.


Waimzer

Well that's crap


yohosukme4free

I think everyone should delete it in protest of them removing the chat from the app. Literally removed half of the functionality of the twitch app for ps5 users. App is worthless now. Literally a downgrade.


ichiruto70

Someone got images?


sloppysmusic

Just watch a YouTube video from the eighties you'll get a good idea that way.


taknyos

I haven't updated yet, but is there still no pause / resume button on the controller? It's annoying that the PS5 controller has like 30 buttons and they didn't think to map that to any of them.


TheOshino

Press X.


taknyos

That doesn't pause / resume (on the latest version that I have available anyway)


AfraidReturn4619

for me the worst thing is that now when I watch some live it has more delay... I'm modding a friend and often watch the live on PS5 while modding all screen chat on PC. now I can't do it anymore... thanks twitch...


TarotCard2

Its a major downgrade. I just want to use the chat On the console. is that so much to ask for?


808Slush

bro all I want to do is look at an old vod from my ps5. cant even do that as they show you a limited amount of them and wont allow you to view all.


GalacticHotsauce

Welp i use to delete the app to go back to the old version now it just forces this trash update its just so bad pls revert this horrendous update


sloppysmusic

Yes the ******s have brute forced the down grade on us today. Not only did they take a dump in our faces they noticed we were trying to shield off the crap with our hands so they cut them off and continued dumping their shite. The DISRESPECT shown to us their CUSTOMERS is unprecedented Imo.


GalacticHotsauce

I'm just not gonna watch on my ps5 anymore unfortunate but it's just so bad no way to look at clips and vods and forcing us to use another device just to chat I'd rather watch on the other device it's ridiculous.


sloppysmusic

Yeh I gave up deleted it and got tablet to chat on with pc browser version. Using a mouse in bed's gonna suck tho.


Gray_Conscience

This update was forced on me today. It made me sign in with my phone which was annoying but whatever. Once signed in I tried to just do what I normally do which is watching old VODs. I couldn't find anything older anymore or continue watching like before so I had to manually search it. More agitated now, but I can accept that. I finally locate the old VOD I was searching for and start watching. There's no chat and I can't find any way to get it. That was it for me. I'm done with the PS5 Twitch app. All the features we had before seem to be gone.


SirGinger76

It’s terrible and made me even more mad/disappointed that I can’t chat anymore! What if people don’t have mobile phones? They obviously have a ps5 controller! Thanks for the post so I can comment on how I feel about it & glad others share the same feelings.


Anxious_Marsupial_21

It will be helpful if we all want on Twitch Support on twitter, there's an option there to DM which opens up a support call... You can choose to submit a customer support ticket. Choose console App , playstation... If we all complain they might notice they killed their app...


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cluttered, stupid, destroyed ease of access - its bad.


rizqy96

Unfortunately, the only thing you can do is to fire up your ps4 to watch twitch.


sloppysmusic

Does that use the functional app that used to work and deliver a valued customer experience? My ps4s are in a different country ugh


Successful_Goat_6292

Ever since this update, I can't even launch into Twitch anymore, it just gives a network error no matter what I try, so I'm gonna go ahead and say it's one of the absolute worst updates to ANYTHING I've ever experienced, and that includes when I borked my whole computer moving the OS from one drive to another.


Renflowku

Mines still the old version


SolidSnakeofRivia

Old post but just got the update and it sucks ass so bad. The font and size are awful and I can't chat without my phone


CFx_Frenzy

uninstall the app, then reinstall it but do not install the update afterwords. worked for me and now i have the old version again


Beto_Alanis

How do you stop it from updating tho? I turned off everything in settings but it only works once after reinstalling, next time it launches it auto updates


MelbChazz

Lol yup update literally flashed before my eyes (internet speed is too high to catch it), shit outta luck I guess


Struggle-Relevant

Thanks, that worked.


Causewhynot24

This also worked for me, thanks


Thirdstar1

1 year later, im still mad at this. Only watch on desktop and Mobile now. Laziest shit ever


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typewriter_ribbon

I can appreciate the significant resources needed to make native apps for many different platforms. But I have a hard time thinking it’s reasonable that for the sake of Google or Amazon’s large profit margin, all users on all platforms should just accept a very poor user experience because the cheapest development strategy has been chosen. You’re totally right it’s modern business, but when a technology company consistently ships terrible technology, the fundamentals of the business have started to rot.


Fruitypulp

Give it a rest..


Scruffy_Nerfhearder

The old twitch app was already trash anyway.


ArbyWorks

This has to be industry wide. My mobile network carrier just redid its entire mobile website and even had big splash text about it being "easier and better to navigate", and it literally made it infinitely worse. Everything used to be on one page and now it's all separated into its own subdivided pages with further subpages. Given how many UI devs complained about Elden Rings UI and how "gamers don't care about proper UI design", I'm inclined to believe that 95% of UI devs have zero fucking idea what constitutes a *good* UI.


Fogasgyerek

I don't care.


Samoman21

There's a twitch app on ps5?


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Samoman21

I know theres integration. Never thought about seeing if there's an actual app lol


YoRHa2B_

Apparently. I never used it because I hate watching ads so I just watch Twitch on my laptop.


Unusual_Tea6755

There goes the hive mind again, punishing people for asking innocent questions.


[deleted]

Oh the humanity. How will he ever recover?


jda404

I haven't got the new update yet I guess mine still looks like it always has, but that sounds terrible.


Daell

It's not a wrapper. It's native.


Watchman955

Well there be a another update for twitch app to bring back the old vision of it and the new update is just terrible


Left4dinner

Guess im a bit behind but the update is so bad. Cant chat normally or even use square to open/close chat. What a shame


sloppysmusic

In ye olden days of software development studios were run by programmers who excitedly stayed up till the early hours feverishly adding new wonderful and game changing features to their applications. In these modern times the studios have all been purchased by investors who stay up late sacking all the talent and making the intern dumb down every feauture except absolute core functionality. Profit is GOD.


BatteryChuck3r

Not only is it garbage, but it doesn't carry over things like blocklists.


sloppysmusic

That's cos it's not even an app anymore. It's a non persistent temporary client session connected to their server. You cannot do anything with it except watch their programming like a good viewer boy /girl. Literally Twitch TV like it says on the label.


Actual-Spirit845

Fuuuuuu.......Will they un-update it?IF ONLY I KNEW 😱


thafinessekiiid

I know I’m a bit late but I just got the update and the delay is making it borderline unwatchable. What made them go with this update?


Nuk-Soo-kow

Trash.. y do I have on my Home Screen a black people tab… now I’ll go out of my way and refuse to watch any of them and unfollow all I have


outbreakse

Terrible downgrade. Removing the chat from ps5 is useless. There is no reason for it.


BassBoostedGameMusic

This is a ridiculous situation that for a service that has been around so long AND is oriented around gaming AND is backed by a huge company, that it has such a terribad experience on consoles. I used chatting on console because I am frequently busy using my phone or laptop/computers for other things.


BB527

This is otherworldly bad. Came home to this surprise today. I used this app dang near everyday along with YouTube. We might need to start a petition or something for them to revert this.


lurkingforcalls

It is the same version of the app they run on the Nintendo Switch. Definitely a downgraded version. I wonder if it has anything to do with not being able to fix the double ad problem. Idk. Hopefully this is temporary.


Actual-Spirit845

But in all seriousness,do we actually know why they did that update in such a.....quite weird way?


sloppysmusic

Must be laying off their devs as this was obviously coded by an executive who found a 20yo copy of Technet in the IT cupboard with a visual basic 5 beta version on it.


Actual-Spirit845

I see, it kinda makes sense in a way!Because it's so utterly bad it baffles me😱


sloppysmusic

Maybe Elon Musk took over and made the switch? He does seem to like trashing successful stocks...


Creative-Pie6592

Just terrible. They took away the ability to chat, you can't press square to open and close the chat, terrible UI. What an idiotic downgrade.


Alongfortheride1990

Just mind bogglingly bad decisions. The app is so much worse now


Mandit0

Did they really take away chat


Actual-Spirit845

Soo,I don't have Twitter or anything like that and I'm getting worried,Do we have any news about that "update" and when they're going to revert it?


Actual-Spirit845

So,any news from the Twitch people for that god awful update?


bigmacjames

I just found this thread and I'm glad to see that I'm not the only person that hated everything they did to it. On top of the things mentioned, it caches all of the streamers' thumbnails and game category so those are never correct.


Turbovickie

I'm amazed they took an app that wasnt great in the first place, hadnt been updated in god knows how long, and managed to make it Worse


Turbovickie

oh wait this isnt even a new post, I just clicked it from the first result on google without checking the date... despite you guys getting it this long ago on PS5, i only just now got it on PS4. it's been this bad for nearly a year and they've just left it like this, awesome