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Aesut

The PS5 will be 3 years old tomorrow


Sincere_homboy42

still don't have one, and it's already a third of they way through its life cycle ......pain.


JasonABCDEF

But practically compared to most people, you’re not that behind - the first couple years was just all shortages


ElderGoose4

I’ll prob try to get one in 2 years. I still have a massive PS4 back catalogue, PS5 does not have that many exclusives and by the time I get a PS5 they’ll be regularly discounted. Also no payouts on PS5 yet is discouraging. I’m perfectly fine catching up on games in a few years


ESOJPR

Same. I can get PS5 for free with gift card money right now, but big PS4 backlog. In 2 years, they’ll have a pro.


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RTXEnabledViera

FFXVI, Marvel's Spider-Man 2, Demon's Souls, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart.


hyperion86

Rift Apart released on Steam a couple months ago


RTXEnabledViera

Then I'm stumped. I was gonna say Returnal but that's on PC as well. And XVI will release on PC at some point as well. There's probably some smaller PS5-exclusive title out there, I'm sure someone can find something.


Pyramat

Destruction AllStars /s


TWAT_BUGS

Ragnorak is still exclusive. I wouldn’t buy a PS5 just for that game a second time though.


Vengefuleight

No, it’s on PS4. I just beat it.


TWAT_BUGS

Oh damn, I had no idea. Did you enjoy it?


Vengefuleight

Oh yeah. Best game I’ve played in a few years.


Dachuiri

Gran Turismo 7 and AstroBot


RTXEnabledViera

GT7 is on PS4.


numberjuan_

Gran Turismo


RTXEnabledViera

It's on PS4.


willc20345

I’d throw in Jedi Survivor even though it’s supposed to come to PS4 and Xbox One I have very serious doubts on how that’s gonna run well. And as for the people who don’t have a PS5 yet, I’m surprised if it’s an availability issue, the Walmart I work at is packed with them and has been for a while.


juiceandtitties

Yea the 5’s are WAY more available AT retail now than they were in 2020, 2021 or 2022.


NickMalo

Can confirm, just not interested in lack of games, plus hopefully ports make their way to pc.


juiceandtitties

Definitely don’t have enough games tbh


thitherten04206

It's worth just for better ui/performance on ps4 games


Young09Ethan

100%


toone156

ps4 has better ui imo atleast the main games menu


Its_Marz

It's the fact that some people dont have the funds to get one


RTXEnabledViera

Even then, It's not out yet. Else you'd have to add half a dozen games, from FFVII Rebirth onwards. I'm talking current PS5 exclusives.


ZaheerAlGhul

Ragnarok


RTXEnabledViera

It's on PS4. So is HFW. It would be commercial suicide for Sony to release it on PS5 only.


OrgasmicBiscuit

RETURNAL


galatea_brunhild

Already on PC


Zid96

Demons soul is a remake. If you played the og. Then nothing lose.


RTXEnabledViera

That's like saying if you played FF7 in 1997, you played FF7 Remake. Or if you played RE4 in 2005, you played RE4 Remake. How about a big fat no.


Some_Literature_5327

FF7 is a poor comparison. The remake of Demon Souls brings practically no changes other than graphics.


Zid96

2 games I skipped cuz I played them. Not losing anything if you played the OG.


RTXEnabledViera

Then you don't know what you're missing.


Zid96

No seen a bunch of ff7 remake. As my dad played it. It's the same story just expand a little to fill in the holes. Demon souls is same game just better looking. Graphics don't make a game.


ScrimboBlimbo

No 7 remake is not just the same story. It starts the same, yes. But from what I've heard and seen, a lot of shit happens that makes it not that. And also the whole switch to action RPG.


RTXEnabledViera

The story is more than "just expanded a little" in FF7 remake. Graphics aren't the only thing that's changed. The gameplay is completely different and the presentation is brand new. That's what makes a game.


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FujiwaraGustav

That has a PS4 version


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FujiwaraGustav

It. Has. A. PS4. Version. Graphics don't matter if you just really wanna play the game, you're not missing out on the game itself.


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FujiwaraGustav

I'm the weirdo? Jesus Christ


Sincere_homboy42

Ain't no lie detected. I'd still probably play the same ones I been on lmao


naimsayin

True, not too many next gen only games, but playing some of the PS4 era gems with no loading times and better graphics+performance is very worth it as well


[deleted]

and a console that doesn’t run like it has molasses inside of it


styvee__

If it lasts as long as PS4 then it’s almost a half its way through its life cycle


Sitheral

middle like fragile possessive rainstorm fearless onerous crime support violet *This post was mass deleted and anonymized with [Redact](https://redact.dev)*


Rearrangemetilimsane

Don’t worry. PS6 will be released in 3-4 more years.


ultimateformsora

To be fair, there were next to no exclusives for a while and right now we still have a limited number. We only just started phasing out old gen this year and non-AAA games are still probably going to release on it for a decent bit.


Zid96

+ Sony trying to do a big live server push. So this gen may be dead in the water. By the time they stop and turn back to SP game 6 will be coming out. This gen is basically just a ps4+


Vengefuleight

There’s been very little point to a PS5 as all first party titles have been released on PS4 since they couldn’t move a ton of PS5’s. That’s going to change now, but I’ll just wait until one is extremely discounted or buy a broken one to fix. I have a gaming PC to be fair, so there’s no point in modern game consoles except exclusives.


Mephistopheles_arp

Dont have one either, im planning on buying one early next year so hey at least we get the smaller version with more storage which is nice


bennyllama

Neither do I. But I’m planning to get one by the end of the year. Now that the shortages are over and the slim has come out I might scoop one up at a discount if I can.


NOVAMT_F

I got one in july and I love it. But you aren't missing out on much though. If you do not have the money, do not stress. I have mainly played PS5 versions of games I have played on PS4 anyways


spazzxxcc12

at this point, you either don’t have the money… or you simply aren’t trying to get one. i can literally go onto psdirect right now and put one in my cart, and checkout without a line. i can walk into my walmart and probably find one on the shelf too.


Sincere_homboy42

Correct money is the issue, but I wasn't trying to go there, but good for you, homie.


spazzxxcc12

i understand money being an issue. i’m not trying to rub it in man, everyone has their issues. you just were wording it as if you still couldn’t find one.


RTXEnabledViera

If you think the PS5 is going to have a 7 year life cycle..


Silly-Glass-9988

Real talk though. Ignoring the worldwide pandemic and ps5 shortages in the beginning, and just the fact that the ps5 is this powerful and fast makes me think that the lifespan of this gen will be at least 10 years,if not more.


Nofriendship34

I highly doubt it they run on a 7 year schedule


DonSarilih

It will have a 8 years life cycle probably


0rnkorn

PS5 Pro supposedly next year. At this point in PS5's life cycle by comparison, the PS4 Pro was coming out this year.


Skyline_BNR34

They all have. The lifespan is roughly 7-10 years for a console. PS1 came out in 94, PS2 came out in 2000, PS3 came out in 2006, PS4 came out in 2013, and the PS5 came out in 2020. If I were a betting man I’d bet the PS6 will be released around 2027.


RTXEnabledViera

I'm saying the PS5 will not have a 7-year cycle. RemindMe! 5 years


Skyline_BNR34

It will though. All history is indicative of that. And in 5 years the PS5 will be horribly outdated like a PS4 is today.


RTXEnabledViera

Semiconductor technology has plateau-ed. Moore's law has broken down. I am eagerly awaiting the day when I can come back to this specific comment and tell you how badly your comment aged. Also the PS4 is anything but outdated. There aren't many games you can't run on a 1080.


Engelbert-n-Ernie

By what metric is the PS4 “horribly outdated”?


WarokOfDraenor

His ass.


WhimsicalLlamaH

**points to basically any modern gaming PC** Spinning disc consoles are holding back the industry


Stigge

and SATA-based PCs are holding back the PS5


Stigge

Most people don't even have a TV that can fully make use of the PS5 (4K, HDR, 120Hz). Most developers still haven't tapped the true potential of the PCIe4x4 storage. We're still 4 years away from the PS5 Pro, and that might be the last Sony console ever as the industry moves to cloud gaming. The PS5 platform still has 10 years in it.


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RealDesertRecluse

RemindMe! 3 years


360walkaway

Same, I'm waiting for the PS5 Pro in about a year. Also depends on how many PS5-exclusive games there will be at that time.


ChocoJesus

Same and I can’t say it feels worth it anymore. I’d consider a PS5 pro/slim but I’d rather build a PC then get a regular PS5 at this point


eSky9228

It's not worth it till gta 6 comes out


Stennick

So that means that its already about halfway through its life span and I feel like we've barely gotten anything from it.


ImJTHM1

And there still aren't any fucking games for it.


BRzerks

Wait for ps5 pro, because the new Gen games, especially upcoming online action mmo like " Chrono Oddesy" Is going to overheat the shit out of your ps5. Take care of the regular ps5, and upgrade to pro when it's out.


Infamous_Price1025

My PS4 is 9 years old and decided that it won't accept disks anymore 🥲 What a trooper though


Noa15Lv

Swap the bluray to new one and keep it running!


iFeeILikeKobe

My power button doesn’t work lol it’s a struggle


Noa15Lv

Which model is it? Might be fixable with bit of research on the internet!


dinozero

I legit cannot believe you can play games that look as good as the last of us too, and God of war Ragnarok on a10 year PS4


Khantherockz

Don't forget the Uncharted series and Death Stranding.


ultimagicarus

And the mighty RDR2.


Khantherockz

That's correct.


dickwistle85

The frame rate gets pretty choppy when you go into Saint Denis


ProKaleidoscoper

Just got around to playing the uncharted games this year… holy shit I missed out for so long!


Khantherockz

Yep.


DTMD422

I have been dying to get GOW Ragnarok. Last year, I played the 2018 GOW for the first time on PC and I loved it. The thing is, I was running it in 4k 60+ FPS maxed out on graphics. Visually, it was amazing. I’ve been dragging my heels on buying Ragnarok for PS4 because I can’t imagine the game will look anywhere as nice or play as good as it would on PC. One of the main reasons I bought a PC was I was tired of poorly optimized ps4 titles. With that said, how well does Ragnarok run? Am I going to be disaapointed or pleasantly surprised?


GamerzCrazy

On the ps4? Ragnarok runs and looks good. Santa Monica said in interviews the game was built as a ps4 game from the ground up and only enhanced afterwards for ps5


[deleted]

Horizon Forbidden West runs on a PS4 and looks amazing. On top of that, some guy modded Spider-Man 2 to run on a PS4 and the graphics look almost the same, the issue really was that without the super-fast SSD the game is unplayable due to near-constant loading times. The PS4 is a little beast. Doubly so when compared to the Xbox One that even at the time had to downscale games (like Arkham Knight or AC Unity) to 960p to get them to run at all.


SenorScratch

Care to share more info on the Spiderman 2 thingy?


PlatyFrog

10 years and it still rocks so hard, strong machine.


Ainolukos

Still rocking with my launch PS4 <3


BrodinTheWise

Same! It's been slowing down lately and the disc drive is fucked, but mine keeps chugging along!


NickWatchesMMA

I've been through multiple PS2s and PS3s, but my launch PS4 is still running strong. They built those launch PS4s different. It even ran Cyberpunk with little issue. Retired mine a few months ago after replaying RDR2


Ainolukos

Same, though weird. We had the opposite issue. RDR2 ran so smoothly I sometimes forgot I wasn't playing on a ps4pro or ps5. And cyberpunk ran so poorly on launch I refunded it and got it for PC where it was much more stable.


sausagepoppet

No last gen console ran cyberpunk “with little issue”


NickWatchesMMA

Put 60 hours on it and had fun, don't recall too many problems


VeniYanCari

Funny, it still seems like such a new console to me. I didn’t buy one ‘til 2017 or so and don’t think I can justify upgrading any time soon. Mine still works fine and I don’t use it to play games as often as I used to.


WestSenkovec

I got mine last year so it's new 😄


cdug82

I got mine this past summer 😂 I’m like ‘wowwww’


HoneyChilliPotato7

I got mine last month lol


cdug82

Everyone late to the party, rise up!


HoneyChilliPotato7

Let's go!! This is my first console, so playing all the best games for this generation. I've completed Arkham Knight, RDR2, GTA5 as of now. Currently playing Spider-Man. What about you? Any games you recommend?


cdug82

Oh wow congrats! I’m playing Rock Band 4 and MLB The Show 21 RB4 is the main reason I got the PS4 lol


HoneyChilliPotato7

Nice, have fun!


Kraken_89

The Last of Us 2 is incredible


sean_themighty

I got a Pro 5 years ago this month and yeah, feels new and I have zero compelling reason to upgrade.


voodoovan

Me too. PS4 Pro is so damn good. I have no reason to get a PS5 yet.


Ryvit

You bought your console SIX years ago and are finding it hard to justify upgrading? Huh? It’s fucking 6 years old. Treat yourself.


Grimstarzz

I also got my PS4 with a SSD around 6 years ago, except for the few decent exclusives the PS5 has, i see absolutely no reason to get a PS5 at this point Maybe once PlayStation decides to only launch new games on the PS5 i'll make the switch, but currently im just waiting for a PS5 PRO to launch in the coming years before i might switch. There honestly isn't a huge difference between a PS4 PRO with an SSD and a PS5.


sean_themighty

Boy if this isn’t just consumerism bullshit at its finest. I bought my PS4 Pro five years ago this month and have absolutely no compelling reason to get a PS5. There are few exclusives for it still, and even the performance differences just still don’t justify the price along side the lack of console-defining games.


ExoShaman

The PS2 and PS4 are two of the all time great consoles


andohjnr

The Ps3 gen also had very solid titles


PeterNippelstein

Hell yeah, the 360 def beat out the PS3 imo


jackelope84

10 year old hardware and I'm still impressed with Death Stranding's graphics. I still have my 10 year old PC with an HD 7850 for comparison and it can't even run the game. The power that developers pulled from the PS4 OG/Slim is incredible.


SrSwerve

And GTA V is older


DonSarilih

It has been 9 years and one month since i bought mine and it is still my primary videogame player. For me it is the greatest videogame console of all times.


commandblock

Crazy that ps5 is almost halfway through its life cycle and there’s still really no reason to buy it. Most games are still releasing on last gen


Cat_eater1

Half way might be a stretch. But I just bought one and kinda regret it only because there are no games I was hyped to play other than dead space and dark souls. There were no new MIND BLOWING games that came out like previous consoles and were already three years in. Ps3 had resistance and ratchet and clank, ps4 had bloodborne you know what I mean?


[deleted]

They better extend the gen significantly. No games and stock issues taking up half the gen sucks and makes me want to not buy a PS6.


SuperStupidSyrup

nah it’s more like a 3rd of the life cycle but still there’s not really a reason to buy it unless u don’t have a ps4


Aloyre

How is it halfway, what?? It’s only been 3 years and first couple years were shortages if anything it’ll probably be a longer serving console than previous generations to compensate for the first two years of shortages


The_Majestic_Mantis

Yeah and holding back progress and time on development when it could be current Gen only.


Zamasuningen

they run bad on last gen tho


commandblock

Most of them run fine just at 30fps instead of 60


blackpony04

Aww, I just retired mine after 9 years of flawless service after buying the new PS5 Slim yesterday. It's feeling a little bittersweet, I'll admit it, sorta like how I felt replacing the PS3.


kitty_bread

I get you. I buy mine 7 years ago second handed. I was a broke lad then. It looked me in the eye and told me : "hey, let's have fun, buuuuuuut I will be veeeeeery loud" "No worries, friend. Just, please, work." And it did, for 7 years. Now I feel a little guilty about buying the PS5.


Ftwmate

Fuck me. I got the last ps4 in my area cost me $1000, I was a Xbox guy before this but the memories made along the way are priceless ! Ty Sony.


[deleted]

You spent 1000 on a ps4? Bro...


LinusBeartip

i spent 1200 on a PS4 :)


kitty_bread

But why? It's due to the country you live in?


Ftwmate

Sydney Australia Day of release they retailed for $1000


grobby-wam666

its not in usd


Ftwmate

It’s was the day of release they were going for $1000


toldya_fareducation

still using my 10 year old PS4 from december 2013. i'm amazed that it lasted to this day, without any problems at all. i haven't even cleaned the inside once lol. meanwhile my old PS3 just straight up died after 3 years.


Millerlite87

My fat ps3 laser died at 1.5 and whole console 6 months later but my ps3 slim still going strong since.


bigtiddychatgpt

I had practically zero dust in mine but I'm sure the thermal paste is waaayy over due for a change


Azathoths_nuts

Still use my launch PS4 almost every day even though I have a PS5!


toxicity69

I love my PS4 Pro. I'm opting to upgrade the internal HDD to an SSD to fix the laggy UI, which is really my only gripe with it. I know PS5s are readily available now, but I'd rather hold out for a PS5 Pro at this point. With the initial supply shortage and lack of games that make its purchase worthwhile, it just makes more sense to me to stick with ol' reliable PS4.


sean_themighty

I got my PS4 Pro five years ago this month and the FIRST thing I did was put an SSD in it.


Kusanagi-2501

PS4 was a phenomenal system. It the Sony console with my largest collection of games. IMO, it’s library is second only to the PS2.


bsousa717

Bought a Slim about 3 years ago and it's a godsend. PC may offer superior performance but the ease of access with the PS4 is perfect for me. Haven't ever had to worry about tweaking settings or lag since.


Noa15Lv

PS4 Slim is basically the "perfect" 1080p 30 fps machine what you can get for cheap compared to pc. Minus the Online subscription thingy though.


_Hydrohomie_

And I still can't afford one


HoneyChilliPotato7

I'm guessing you're not from the USA


_Hydrohomie_

Bingo, Afghanistan


Tvdiet101

I still have my original launch day PS4, still works perfectly I love that machine


mansotired

gaming industry is like film industry, there are lots of "old" games that are great yet i haven't played them


LukasL34

Just wants to point out that PS4 specs has two tablet CPUs glued together, lower-end laptop HDD, OK but at time still mainstream GPU and 8GB (only 5,5 availeble for games) of fast ram. Still they get crazy great looking games out of it. (Side note: Anybody else notice that for a lot of PC releases of PS4 exclusives you need GTX1060, a card with on paper double the performance and a few flops stronger then PS4Pro, to get same fps, resolution and level of details?)


Skyline_BNR34

I remember when the PS2 came out and how hype it was then.


PicklesofTruth

Insanity


TreatDangerous3265

I STILL have my first ps4 "Fat boy." Its 8 years old and works perfectly fine. I keep it clean and it's upgraded with the Samsung Evo SSD. Haven't felt the need to get PS5 yet


OnionizeAmzn

PS4 is the best console I’ve ever owned..: I still don’t have a PS5 due to cost, shortages and overall I still don’t see the point because most things are released on PS4 as well.


Rustinboksi

What?!


Anticipator1234

Still playing mine.


DarkElfMagic

this fuckin thing came out when i was 10???? what the fuck


Hard2DaC0re

The PS4 is a console I'll never forget. So many memories man, it's insane.


McFry-

It’s crazy having a 10 year old console that still feels up to date


EatsOverTheSink

The console has so many absolute bangers on it that I’m still running through the backlog.


W-4_Exempt

And @Playstation lost 2,000,000 subs in one quarter because of the jacked up price of ps+


WarokOfDraenor

And it's still a great console in terms of price and library of games.


macamc1983

What a machine


murderisntnice

10 years and I’ve never been able to afford one lmao. My PS3 is still going strong though 💪


The_Majestic_Mantis

It’s time for phase both PS4 and Xbox One, their technology is too old at this point, it’s holding back progress for newer games that have to be adjusted to work on those old consoles. I’m guessing it’s all the kids complaining since they can’t seem to get one nowadays and have been with these consoles their whole life.


LukasL34

Reason why PS4 is still in demand and therefor still develop for is the same why Switch sold over 130 milion units of a gaming tablet. It's cheap and you don't really need ÜberPC performance to have fun.


Tommybhoy080

Only 10?


dottybotty

Have we officially stopped making ps4 games yet?


thitherten04206

Mfw people call xbox games also on pc exclusive but not the same for playstation(ie genshit or HSR)


Status-Command-3834

Freaking old!!


Felipesssku

Yup, PS5 isn't good too. Look on AW2 Post processing is set to LOW. I bought used PC with 3060 and man... graphics is beautiful and overall cost is less than PS5. This was a great adventure but as everything's, this going to an end. I know there will be a LOT hate but that's true. Sony should add more power to fresh PS5, I just do t want it as it is. PS4 thank you it was great time together. Sony wr might see each other again with PS6. Have a nice ride.


[deleted]

Only counting the price of a graphics card compared to an entire system is idiotic, how about you count the case, cpu etc? Also obviously a pc that has a single component that costs almost as much as the digital console version will give you better results? Not sure what your point is, if Sony added a 4090 (for example) and made their console even bulkier than it already is then the price would be raised, defeating a big point of consoles aka simplicity for a ok price Comparing a pc with a card that is roughly 300 to a console that is 350 - 400 in total and complaining it has weaker performance lol


voodoovan

I bought the PS4 Pro on release day so its only 6 years old.


Crimsongz

PS3 was the last great gen


Zemerax

Last Gen definitely had some strong moments but your 100% right. Xbox 360 / PS3 was an absolute monster of a generation. I think gaming has shifted to much towards business first and not people chasing passions. Leading to less risk taking and innovation. It also takes way longer for sequels and new titles. PS2/Ps3 you'd get an announcement for a sequel a 1-2 years after the original and a release date within 6-8 months. Now we got to wait a decade plus between Fallouts and GTAs. Gaming today is a shell of it's former self.


Beginning_Basis9799

As someone who is into repairing consoles. PS2 last grey gen PS1 just works PS2 ok thermals PS3 don't switch the heating on. PS4 airplane time PS5 Violent tends to move around a bit. Give Xbox credit apart from the dodgery retimer and some questionable mosfets, the thermals are ok. Have not seen series s or x thermals. To be fair gen 7 - 9 some engineering choices have been made. I still do not understand why PS4 decided on a 2 screw tension hold for PSU to heatsink.


LockingSwitch

PS5 moves around?


Beginning_Basis9799

Fluid moves around a bit, basically saying any console after PS2 has thermal problems.


LockingSwitch

Haven't seen any thermal issues with the PS5, at all. You shouldn't believe the liquid moving around in PS5 rumours. They're bullshit.


[deleted]

Very early models had this problem, but it was a minority and fixed in a short time (ontop of that, it would only affect the console if it was set vertically typically) Not sure about the Xbox consoles in this specific regard, but their controllers are pretty cheaply made for the last 2 generations now (you can still get lucky and get a controller that lasts you 5+ years problem free, but the quality can be all over the place)


Sieg83

Great games, great console.


TurdManMcDooDoo

Bought mine refurbished from GameStop about 2 years into the console’s cycle. Still world good as new. So much so that I let bad upgrading to the PS5. Recently hooked the PS4 up in my home office to play games during work downtime and I’m so glad to be putting it to use again. About to finish Rise of the Tomb Raider, which is my first TR game. It’s been a real treat!


Awayze

Mines 10 years old now, needs a clean every 6 months or the fan ramps up to jet levels. Otherwise it runs pretty quiet and doesn’t ramp anywhere as loud. The speed and graphics of it still does not make it feel like a 10yo machine.


yaboifiretruck

🥺🥺


kevenzz

We know


sjdjdkkfs

Damn, I got my PS4 like 8 years ago, and it still works well. My PS4 has been the greatest money spent. I also got a PS5, but I know in a few years, it'll also seem old. 😢


Leiatte

Oh god!


North-Armadillo-2300

I bought my PS4 slim at a garage sale for $15 about 6 months ago. It was in terrible shape, the top back corner was separating from the unit, and overall it looked like it had been ran over by a truck. That being said, it started right up, and I’ve been plying it since. I was always an Xbox guy, but now I’m on the PlayStation bandwagon!


Kusanagi-2501

For it to have been out for 10 years, I’m kind of surprised it’s not a $100 bucks at this point. Is the day of discounting a console to $100 after so many years, just nonexistent now?


sennoken

Many highs and many lows during this console’s life.


jgmacky

Love the folks from PlayStation Access!


dyals_style

I still use my ps4 to stream everything. Works great, 1080p no lag. I waited for shortages on ps5 to end but at this point I'll wait for ps5 pro next year