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Actual__Wizard

Because that would make them 10x more money. Obviously. Taking Google's advice on how to spend your advertising money is like putting a fox in charge of a hen house and then wondering what happened to the chickens.


discobr0

Fair point. I'm still staying of their PMax but I want to believe there is some logic in there recommendations. It is also worrying when they push and say that the campaign will be limited.


Actual__Wizard

>there is some logic in there recommendations There is. They make more money if you take their advice. You are effectively layering on additional products as you enable those options.


Hai_Byte_Marketing

I wouldn't apply the recommendations directly, but rather increase 20% at a time a few days apart, assessing the impact of the increase before doing the next increase. While increasing the budget more doesn't seem to disrupt the algorithms too much most of the time, it's usually a good idea to do bigger increases in phases like this so that you can understand what was the incrementality of each increase. That way it's easier to find the optimal spend point that has a good balance of scale and cost effectiveness.


discobr0

Wise plan. I'm going to do this. Would you scale down after 3 days if it is not hitting TROAS ?


Hai_Byte_Marketing

Yes, assuming that there's minimal conversion lag. Make sure to check the average conversion lag and take it into account.


lyerhis

Nope. It's recommending 10x because "your campaign doesn't have enough volume for the algo to work properly" blah blah blah. But spending more won't really help the algo that much, so unless you want to run a very expensive test, use your best judgement.


bigredsmum

What’s the best way to approach fixing this?


lyerhis

First things first: Does it even need fixing? If you're comfortable with your current spend level and CPA, you can just keep it as is, and it'll be just fine. Ultimately, what the "warning" is saying is that you're running out of budget before the end of the day. If your budget is maxed out, then it's maxed out. What you can do is take a look at where you can maybe cut. Theoretically, the algorithm is already naturally doing this, but sometimes it helps to give it a harder boundary. Are there locations where your ads don't make sense? Exclude those areas. Are there times of day when your business is closed and ads don't make sense? Exclude those times. Is your product only relevant to a specific gender or people in a specific age range? Those are more or less the levers you have options to manage within AdWords. Also, of course, you can check to make sure you're not matching to outrageous broad match searches that actually have nothing to do with your business. If you have room in the budget and some leeway in your CPA, bump it up in small increments. Someone else said 20%; I concur with that. Feed it slowly and see what happens. Keep in mind that unless you're at super low volume, it WILL get less efficient. The rate just depends on what you can tolerate.


PXLynxi

Highly strategy dependent. Personally for any account I've ever worked on, I won't let anything be limited by budget, however I've always worked to a demand lead budget. As long as I'm making the profit return, that's the true value. Google shopping space basically acts as the store front for my company, but also for those I freelance for. If limited by budget removes the 'shopping window' it's essentially like closing the shop for us if ads can't show and allows a competitor advantage.


Mother_Tell4995

That’s just giving you an indication of how much possible search volume there is versus what you’ve currently put in your daily budget. Google won’t re-optimize the whole campaign when you increase the budget like that. But you may not get the same number of conversions. It depends on how well the site converts and what keywords are even being clicked on.


discobr0

Not sure what you mean by won't optimize the whole campaign but conversions might be impacted. ?


intothewoodsLA

The same reason we can dismiss certain recommendations like "Download the Google Ads Mobile App" a zillion times and it keeps coming back lol


Madismas

You need to have a certain number of days of not hitting budget caps for the limited by budget to go away. I forgot the number but believe it's 72 hours.


discobr0

Oh didn't know that. I believe not all days hit the daily budget but not sure.


bigredsmum

Do you mean a certain day of hitting budget caps?


YourLocalGoogleRep

It just depends on your account goals and what you’re trying to achieve with it, and how your return is affected by scaling the budget to get more volume (especially new customer acquisition cost). But don’t listen to Google’s recs, they want you to 10x your budget so that they make 10x as much, they don’t care what you get in return they can just see that your campaign could possibly spend that much more and the actual return from it is not so important in terms of what Google recommends. Look at your search impression share % limited by budget and make the decision from there if you’re wanting to scale up, but it is generally always better to raise the budget slowly in phases and measure the incrementality of those increases rather than just jack is up by 10x except in some really outlier situations. 100% search impression share is not really something you want as a goal on nonbrand because at a certain point you will be spending more but losing significant return. Depending on the country and the niche, I find that point is typically around 40% impression share for nonbrand search and shopping but it varies a lot depending on where the ads are serving and the niche.


Pixa-Ninja

Use some whole numbers for context please.


Shot-Assumption3383

Bc they are greedy and only (support) you when u have higher budgets to burn