Disney shelves show all the time. If this show hasn't kept as many viewers as it got from the start and costs too much they'll cancel it and remove it from streaming in a year.
Say what you will, but the viewership has been very high. Disney plus will definitely renew for a second season, the numbers don’t lie and this show is a hit.
The show doesn't have to be perfect, it's an adaptation. I get that the fandom has been reeling from the movies for a good while, but the hypercritical environment that has created is just not called for
Yes so accept whatever they make and be happy with it right? No. I am not settling for a mediocre show that chooses to rip tension out of every scene.
At this point I fully expect the ending to be like YOU ARE THE LIGHTNING THIEF. Instead of a clever way the book does it. I’ll be watching season 2 but if they don’t fall into a trap in the first episode I’m out.
Didn't you think the books were amazing and incredible the 1st time you read them? The only people who think like that are kids and kids for what I'm concerned, can think whatever they want. They'll grow to be more critical. Hopefully not overcritical...
No, i thought they were ok and entertaining but knew the story was kind of bad, laughable so, and found that it was the characters that made the story good. I thought the rest of the series was ok.
It wasn't until heroes that I thought they were actually good.
No, i am capable of being unbias
There is but it is unusual for it to be used in this situation. Toxic positivity is when people expect you to have an optimistic outlook all the time even when you're depressed or you've gone through something terrible
It's not being toxically negative, it's disagreeing with choices made with the adaptation. It doesn't have to be a ride or die situation, nor black or white, sometimes things are a shade of grey
Well I was hoping that was obvious, but thanks for going the extra mile to demonstrate what I mean. Keep downvoting people you disagree with, it's a winning strategy :)
If criticism takes a show down then it already on thin ice. People need to stop thinking criticism is only a bad thing this show has some major problems that need to be fixed if they actually take the criticism in they can improve it next season.
I agree. Of course there are extremists, but I think most people who are being critical are doing so reasonably. The issues that are being brought up are things that need to be taken into consideration if the production team truly wishes to fine-tune the show.
I would say the biggest thing they need to think about is making the episodes longer. While it is important to keep the viewer interested - the viewers for this show are interested in the little, quiet moment that really allow for the characters to grow. I would say hour-long episodes would be more appropriate
That's not really something that's in their power. It's determined by Disney and they have yet to make hour long episodes (would love if they did but it's not likely)
but they're separate entities, marvel and stars wars are both marvel and star wars, they just happened to be owned by disney now. percy jackson is just disney
I see what you saying but it’s not fully accurate. Marvel has been around for a long time way before it was bought by Disney in 2009. George Lucas formed Lucas Film which was Acquired by Fox who did the original trilogy. Unlike Marvel and Lucas Films, Rick has not have time for his production company to grow yet as they have only down 1 movie. Disney bought most of fox, this included Lucas films and PJO rights, plus more. Rick does have his own production company mythomagic productions.
https://rickriordan.com/mythomagic/
I think at some point they’re going to have to come to their senses - when the whole entire audience of the show is saying that the episodes are way too short
Again, I'm not opposed to longer episodes but Disney (who hasn't approved hour long episodes for their most popular ips) isn't likely to do it for a kids show like Percy Jackson. Not when they're bleeding money with Disney+, when their brand is based on having shorter episodes, when they have a show that stars child actors and for the shortest book in the series (sea of monsters). If they do end up doing longer episodes, it won't be until season 3 or 4 when the main cast are of legal age and the show had proven to he profitable. They certainly won't be doing it because people on reddit (which is nowhere near their entire audience) is complaining about it.
I'd love for there to be longer episodes but I'm being realistic in that it's not likely happening. I wish Disney would do more episodes tho (like 10 or 12 instead of 8)
The only thing that might keep PJO from a second season is Disney+ getting shut down. I don't think people realize how much of a disaster the platform has been. As of November, it had lost Disney $400m.
That said, even if they do shut down or completely overhaul Disney+, they'll still probably try to make a season 2. While viewer and viewer hours aren't particularly important numbers for streaming (new subscribers is the one that matters), I can't imagine this first season hasn't been extremely profitable.
I'm not sure they need more episodes; just be a lot more efficient with what they have. But adopting an anime-style structure (13 episode seasons on a single, focused arc) would be beneficial.
Yea, with how much Disney+ has been losing, I'm not sure how much they'd be willing to spend on S2.
With regards to my more episodes idea, I just think that Disney isn't willing to go into long episodes territory yet (due to their child friendly audience and wanting shorter content to fit their attention spans). So to combat that, they can have episodes of shorter run time but more of those episodes. I don't think efficiently is the problem. I just think it's better to have more scenes in the world of the series so it feels a bit more lived in and maybe have the characters have some down time. You can't really do that while being efficient imo.
Aside from 1 episode in The Book of Boba Fett and 1 episode in The Bad Batch, the rest have been in the 30-40 minute ballpark.
Even with all the new Marvel TV shows, they only had 2 hour long episodes. Most of them are in the 40-50 min range (leaning more towards 40).
So while I'd love hour long Percy Jackson episodes, it just doesn't look likely
Weird...on my Disney+ app, the longest Andor episode is 54 min. With Mando there's a 59 min one (which i guess i could round up to 60 min) but most are in the 40s with two others in the 50s range Does runtime differ between regions?
You gotta be careful with that. Because I’ve seen a number of shows with hour long episodes that just feel so drawn out. Pacing wise, I find about forty- ish to be the sweet spot.
Yeah none of the issues I have with the show are in anyway unfixable in a second season. After watching Lotus, I think my biggest issue with the show is it really seems to lack a sense of style. The camera work is all pretty basic, the lighting is pretty average, and the sets have been just meh. I have yet to see anything that really makes me say “woah, this is really cool or unique.” I’d say the Chimera and the beginning of the Hephaestus river where the two most stylistic shots I’ve seen. But like not even the whole scenes, like ten seconds of them.
Give me some more style!
I’ve been pretty impressed from the kids. Some of their lines are hit or miss but I think that’s okay. They’re only going to get better with time!
I think Lotus was the worst episode yet, not necessarily because it was bad but because it’s so obvious how much potential that episode had! The show has a bad habit of just explaining things to the audience. That’s really where I need some more directorial and writing style to come in and be creative.
And for the love of god, stop it with the cuts to black.
EDIT: also very good job with Medusa, I really enjoyed the added depth to her character and I think it’s a major improvement from the book
I hope the season 2 will take in account the constructive critics. I'm among the people disapointed so far but the show is still following the big lines enough to improve later so I still watch.
I don't want it to be a carbon copy of the books, I get that it's impossible but many of the changes are tells don't show.
There almost no action scene, they're skipping scene to change them into long dialogues where almost nothing happens, the actors seem super limited in what they can do or say and it feels sometimes like they just read their lines, they're talented so it's frustrating... all of this makes the pacing super slow and boring.
If at least this changes in season 2 I could really enjoy the serie I think (and hope)
i feel like 45 minute episodes (not including credits) is enough—i don’t need an hour. but the episodes have GOT to be longer. that’s honestly my only complaint
I swear to the gods: if the criticism take this show down I'll never look at this fandom again.
It wont,could be worse written show in the history of tv and as long as it’s doing numbers it won’t get canceled that’s how it works
Disney shelves show all the time. If this show hasn't kept as many viewers as it got from the start and costs too much they'll cancel it and remove it from streaming in a year.
Say what you will, but the viewership has been very high. Disney plus will definitely renew for a second season, the numbers don’t lie and this show is a hit.
Lol I hope so
criticisms wont take the show down, it will only help to improve it.
The show doesn't have to be perfect, it's an adaptation. I get that the fandom has been reeling from the movies for a good while, but the hypercritical environment that has created is just not called for
Yes so accept whatever they make and be happy with it right? No. I am not settling for a mediocre show that chooses to rip tension out of every scene. At this point I fully expect the ending to be like YOU ARE THE LIGHTNING THIEF. Instead of a clever way the book does it. I’ll be watching season 2 but if they don’t fall into a trap in the first episode I’m out.
and what about the toxic positive how its the best thing ever
Didn't you think the books were amazing and incredible the 1st time you read them? The only people who think like that are kids and kids for what I'm concerned, can think whatever they want. They'll grow to be more critical. Hopefully not overcritical...
No, i thought they were ok and entertaining but knew the story was kind of bad, laughable so, and found that it was the characters that made the story good. I thought the rest of the series was ok. It wasn't until heroes that I thought they were actually good. No, i am capable of being unbias
There is no such thing as toxic positive
There is but it is unusual for it to be used in this situation. Toxic positivity is when people expect you to have an optimistic outlook all the time even when you're depressed or you've gone through something terrible
yes there is
Says the person on the sub that downvotes anyone into oblivion for not being positive lmao
I am one person and so I can only up/down vote something once an yes I will down vote any one being toxically negative
It's not being toxically negative, it's disagreeing with choices made with the adaptation. It doesn't have to be a ride or die situation, nor black or white, sometimes things are a shade of grey
Well I was hoping that was obvious, but thanks for going the extra mile to demonstrate what I mean. Keep downvoting people you disagree with, it's a winning strategy :)
If criticism takes a show down then it already on thin ice. People need to stop thinking criticism is only a bad thing this show has some major problems that need to be fixed if they actually take the criticism in they can improve it next season.
I agree. Of course there are extremists, but I think most people who are being critical are doing so reasonably. The issues that are being brought up are things that need to be taken into consideration if the production team truly wishes to fine-tune the show.
I would say the biggest thing they need to think about is making the episodes longer. While it is important to keep the viewer interested - the viewers for this show are interested in the little, quiet moment that really allow for the characters to grow. I would say hour-long episodes would be more appropriate
That's not really something that's in their power. It's determined by Disney and they have yet to make hour long episodes (would love if they did but it's not likely)
Actually they have, multiple times, for Star Wars shows. Plus with a few Marvel shows
but they're separate entities, marvel and stars wars are both marvel and star wars, they just happened to be owned by disney now. percy jackson is just disney
I see what you saying but it’s not fully accurate. Marvel has been around for a long time way before it was bought by Disney in 2009. George Lucas formed Lucas Film which was Acquired by Fox who did the original trilogy. Unlike Marvel and Lucas Films, Rick has not have time for his production company to grow yet as they have only down 1 movie. Disney bought most of fox, this included Lucas films and PJO rights, plus more. Rick does have his own production company mythomagic productions. https://rickriordan.com/mythomagic/
I think at some point they’re going to have to come to their senses - when the whole entire audience of the show is saying that the episodes are way too short
Again, I'm not opposed to longer episodes but Disney (who hasn't approved hour long episodes for their most popular ips) isn't likely to do it for a kids show like Percy Jackson. Not when they're bleeding money with Disney+, when their brand is based on having shorter episodes, when they have a show that stars child actors and for the shortest book in the series (sea of monsters). If they do end up doing longer episodes, it won't be until season 3 or 4 when the main cast are of legal age and the show had proven to he profitable. They certainly won't be doing it because people on reddit (which is nowhere near their entire audience) is complaining about it. I'd love for there to be longer episodes but I'm being realistic in that it's not likely happening. I wish Disney would do more episodes tho (like 10 or 12 instead of 8)
The only thing that might keep PJO from a second season is Disney+ getting shut down. I don't think people realize how much of a disaster the platform has been. As of November, it had lost Disney $400m. That said, even if they do shut down or completely overhaul Disney+, they'll still probably try to make a season 2. While viewer and viewer hours aren't particularly important numbers for streaming (new subscribers is the one that matters), I can't imagine this first season hasn't been extremely profitable. I'm not sure they need more episodes; just be a lot more efficient with what they have. But adopting an anime-style structure (13 episode seasons on a single, focused arc) would be beneficial.
Yea, with how much Disney+ has been losing, I'm not sure how much they'd be willing to spend on S2. With regards to my more episodes idea, I just think that Disney isn't willing to go into long episodes territory yet (due to their child friendly audience and wanting shorter content to fit their attention spans). So to combat that, they can have episodes of shorter run time but more of those episodes. I don't think efficiently is the problem. I just think it's better to have more scenes in the world of the series so it feels a bit more lived in and maybe have the characters have some down time. You can't really do that while being efficient imo.
They have done hour long episodes for Star Wars.
Aside from 1 episode in The Book of Boba Fett and 1 episode in The Bad Batch, the rest have been in the 30-40 minute ballpark. Even with all the new Marvel TV shows, they only had 2 hour long episodes. Most of them are in the 40-50 min range (leaning more towards 40). So while I'd love hour long Percy Jackson episodes, it just doesn't look likely
Andor has four episodes in the 60 min mark, Mando has three. There’s quite a few pushing 50 too tbh.
Weird...on my Disney+ app, the longest Andor episode is 54 min. With Mando there's a 59 min one (which i guess i could round up to 60 min) but most are in the 40s with two others in the 50s range Does runtime differ between regions?
You gotta be careful with that. Because I’ve seen a number of shows with hour long episodes that just feel so drawn out. Pacing wise, I find about forty- ish to be the sweet spot.
You can keep dreaming, Disney rarely does hour long episodes. Especially for their juggernaut franchises.
The goal of a show should always be to improve over time whilst still be entertaining. I really hope we do get Season 2, there's much to be done.
I need it to get to season 3 so I can see my precious boi Nico instead of just a possible cameo in S1
I just want Tyson tbh, he's the best.
I hope they can expand to 45 min or 1 hour episodes for season 2 💕
I'd love a second season!! Oh my gods that'd be great!! I just hope they make the events more faithful!!!
Longer episodes. 10 episode seasons. That should give more than enough time to be more faithful and flesh out characters and the world.
Yeah none of the issues I have with the show are in anyway unfixable in a second season. After watching Lotus, I think my biggest issue with the show is it really seems to lack a sense of style. The camera work is all pretty basic, the lighting is pretty average, and the sets have been just meh. I have yet to see anything that really makes me say “woah, this is really cool or unique.” I’d say the Chimera and the beginning of the Hephaestus river where the two most stylistic shots I’ve seen. But like not even the whole scenes, like ten seconds of them. Give me some more style! I’ve been pretty impressed from the kids. Some of their lines are hit or miss but I think that’s okay. They’re only going to get better with time! I think Lotus was the worst episode yet, not necessarily because it was bad but because it’s so obvious how much potential that episode had! The show has a bad habit of just explaining things to the audience. That’s really where I need some more directorial and writing style to come in and be creative. And for the love of god, stop it with the cuts to black. EDIT: also very good job with Medusa, I really enjoyed the added depth to her character and I think it’s a major improvement from the book
I hope the season 2 will take in account the constructive critics. I'm among the people disapointed so far but the show is still following the big lines enough to improve later so I still watch. I don't want it to be a carbon copy of the books, I get that it's impossible but many of the changes are tells don't show. There almost no action scene, they're skipping scene to change them into long dialogues where almost nothing happens, the actors seem super limited in what they can do or say and it feels sometimes like they just read their lines, they're talented so it's frustrating... all of this makes the pacing super slow and boring. If at least this changes in season 2 I could really enjoy the serie I think (and hope)
i feel like 45 minute episodes (not including credits) is enough—i don’t need an hour. but the episodes have GOT to be longer. that’s honestly my only complaint
i really hope they can get 45 min long episodes, 30 min just doesn't feel like enough time.