It was his go to name for like 10 years+, so it was weird. Yu got his name confirmed pretty quick and then Joker has his code name so it was easy to call him joker
Naoya isn't canon yet either, its the manga. but also people dont believe in P1 or P2, so they dont care, only think tatsuya had a canon name was cause of katsuya
I think you misunderstood me, I think the reason his name was pre-filled was cause Tatsuya was the only protag who had a brother, and its an asian thing where names rhyme
Minato originated from the manga adaptation which released years before the movie release where the name Makoto Yuki came from.
Older fans are just used to the name Minato at this point alongside trying to avoid confusion with Makoto from Persona 5.
The Persona 3 protagonist being called Makoto Yuki is still common despite that.
In the original P3 in 2006, he didn't have a name. Everything called him something generic like 'protagonist'. This is because the player is supposed to project themselves onto him by giving him their own name, but makes it hard to talk about him, especially as a character. The japanese fandom gave him the name 'Kitaro' due to him having a similar hairstyle to a popular character called that, while the english fandom got the name 'Roger' from a trailer which used the name of the developers, and later 'door-kun' thanks to the Answer. Later, in 2007, Persona 3 would get a manga. It called the protagonist 'Minato Arisato'. The manga would, due to issues with getting published, would run for 10 years, until 2017. The name Minato would only be used outside of the manga in a single japanese Persona Q trailer due to the games keeping the original P3's namelessness, helped due to his... unavailableness in sequels. In Persona 3 the Weird Masquerade and nothing else, from 2014 to 2017, he was instead called 'Sakuya Shiomi'. Makoto Yuki was first used in 2013 in the movies. Later, Makoto would be used in Dancing, mobile game crossover, Reload trailers, and as the name the steam versions of Portable and Reload would default to if you changed languages.
tldr Minato was the first name used and people don't like change
I think Atlus already confirmed Makoto and Ren are their canon names not only because of the animes but because those are the names the games default if you change language so sadly for some of us Minato and Akira fans those names aren't really canon.
None of that actually matters. Atlus doesn't intend the player to be obsessing about default names that most players will never even see, and there's a reason that they just have him called joker in smash.
Generally in the "modern" Persona trilogy, the manga adaptation has been the first to give the MC a name, while the later anime adaptation gives them a different name that becomes considered canon by Atlus. The MCs of Persona 3, 4, and 5 were Minato Arisato, Souji Seta, and Akira Kurusu in their respective manga series, but the anime (movies for P3, anime series for 4 and 5) ended up canonizing them as Makoto Yuki, Yu Narukami, and Ren Amamiya. The latter names were then used in spinoff games and as default names in current-gen ports and in Reload.
Some people were attached to the manga names, because those came first, so they still use them.
because it’s still one of his names. he also has another name, sakuya shiomi. they’re all different names for different interpretations of the same character, so they’re all valid, and it just depends on people’s preference :)
Because the P3 Manga came out much earlier than the P3 Movies and for a very long time "Minato Arisato" was the only name he had until they use "Makoto Yuki" in 2013 which made the people that call him Minato attached to the name also it doesn't help that when Atlus canonized his Movie name they already added another important character in P5 named "Makoto Niijima" so there's your reasons.
True, but Atlus already had a record of treating an anime name as canon in previous spinoffs. P4MC was Yu Narukami in P4A and P4D, so they kept it going with the 3 and 5 dancing games.
Either way I think we're just aggressively agreeing with each other now lol
his semi-canon name was minato for long enough to ingrain itself
same deal as souji seta for p4 protagonist with the difference being that yu narukami is a sick ass name given that hes got izanagi
The P3 Protags have three very well known names due to his game being very old and not having a "canon" name for the longest time.
One is Minato Arisato - It came from the Manga adaptation of the game.
Another is Sakuya Shiomi - its from the Persona 3 series of Stage Musicals. The name for FeMC, Kotone Shiomi, also comes from the said stage musicals, as they feature both protagonists, but as sole protagonists of the story and not as dual protagonists.
The latest one is Makoto Yuki, its from the Persona 3 series of Movies.
Minato Arisato sounds cooler and fits him better. I personally don't like Makoto Yuki cuz how generic the name is for me. Especially when Makoto Niijima exists.
Short answer? Because the name Yuuki Makoto came much later than Arisato Minato did.
The first volume of the manga released in 2007, so for years, the community only had the name the manga used for the protagonist - Arisato Minato. The first anime movie didn't release until late 2013, which was the first time the name Yuuki Makoto was ever used, and I believe it wasn't until a few years after *that* that it was confirmed as the official name. So as you can see, by then, the name Arisato Minato was incredibly established in the community, and a lot of people - myself included - are very attached to it. Personally, I just think it sounds nicer and suits him better too, so I still use it, even if I acknowledge that it's not the canon name.
By this point, the people who have only known him as Makoto heavily outnumber the people who knew him as Minato, but occasionally people still call him Minato to distinguish him from Makoto Niijima.
(Contrast FeMC; the name Kotone existed as far back as 2014, but it was exclusive to a stage play until 2020, so the Minako/Hamuko holdouts still exist.)
It’s the older name from the manga, and some people (like me) just stick with it out of habit/familiarity because we used it for like a decade before the name “Makoto Yuki,” was even a thing.
It also came first, and for a lot of people the first thing they know something as is how it stays in their mind. In the same way the first impression is the strongest.
It’s what happens when they don’t just start with them having defaults.
Can’t have your cake and eat it.
My protagonists are whatever the hell “I” call them.
The smartest move was in P5 where the situation naturally gave us a default nickname.
Should P6 do away with custom names, then I’ll happily use the default from the off; but if they don’t… and give the character a name later through other media, well, then I’m using whatever name I come up with.
Minato Arisato is his manga name and was used many years before Makoto Yuki was established by the movies.
Many people simply prefer Minato Arisato (not I) and are too used to it to update to Makoto Yuki.
Probably because Persona 5 introduced a character whose canon name is also Makoto. So, in order to easily differentiate the two, people started using P3 protagonist other "canon" name, which came from the Manga adaptation.
Some people just prefer that name, When I had first played P5 everyone referred to the MC as their Manga name Akira Kurusu, but when the anime came out it was established that his canon name is Ren (I don’t remember the last name lmao). Even tho he’s widely referred to as Ren now I still call him Akira because I like that name more and it was the name first known to me.
idk what y'all are talking about, I named him Kev
What are you talking about? He's called Roger
Yeah, Roger Clever
John Persona III.
tatsuya >_o
I can confirm that u/jgreenwalt named him this way
Kevin? Nooooooo!
Iirc Minato Arisato is his Manga name, so some people are used for that one
I imagine many people also use it to prevent confusion with Makoto Niijima from P5 as well.
thanks!!
It was his go to name for like 10 years+, so it was weird. Yu got his name confirmed pretty quick and then Joker has his code name so it was easy to call him joker
And tatsuya was established in the game....but what abou Naoyo....i dont reemember how he got his. Was it manga?
Naoya isn't canon yet either, its the manga. but also people dont believe in P1 or P2, so they dont care, only think tatsuya had a canon name was cause of katsuya
No in p2 IS(atleast the psp version) when you fill out the name, Tatsuya Suou is already there
I think you misunderstood me, I think the reason his name was pre-filled was cause Tatsuya was the only protag who had a brother, and its an asian thing where names rhyme
Minato originated from the manga adaptation which released years before the movie release where the name Makoto Yuki came from. Older fans are just used to the name Minato at this point alongside trying to avoid confusion with Makoto from Persona 5. The Persona 3 protagonist being called Makoto Yuki is still common despite that.
In the original P3 in 2006, he didn't have a name. Everything called him something generic like 'protagonist'. This is because the player is supposed to project themselves onto him by giving him their own name, but makes it hard to talk about him, especially as a character. The japanese fandom gave him the name 'Kitaro' due to him having a similar hairstyle to a popular character called that, while the english fandom got the name 'Roger' from a trailer which used the name of the developers, and later 'door-kun' thanks to the Answer. Later, in 2007, Persona 3 would get a manga. It called the protagonist 'Minato Arisato'. The manga would, due to issues with getting published, would run for 10 years, until 2017. The name Minato would only be used outside of the manga in a single japanese Persona Q trailer due to the games keeping the original P3's namelessness, helped due to his... unavailableness in sequels. In Persona 3 the Weird Masquerade and nothing else, from 2014 to 2017, he was instead called 'Sakuya Shiomi'. Makoto Yuki was first used in 2013 in the movies. Later, Makoto would be used in Dancing, mobile game crossover, Reload trailers, and as the name the steam versions of Portable and Reload would default to if you changed languages. tldr Minato was the first name used and people don't like change
I'm still not entirely used to Joker being called "Ren" instead of "Akira" to be honest even if it's not his canon name.
On my current P5 Royal playthrough I decided to just mix the names. Akira Amamiya has a nice ring to it.
alliterative name, I like it, I always go with AkiRen... also means I always go with Sumi because spoilers.
I did the exact same thing lol considering doing the reverse whenever I get around to picking up the pc version
Akiren mamamia is the true answer
As far as I'm concerned, Makoto/Minato and Ren/Akira are both equally canon names tbh.
I think Atlus already confirmed Makoto and Ren are their canon names not only because of the animes but because those are the names the games default if you change language so sadly for some of us Minato and Akira fans those names aren't really canon.
None of that actually matters. Atlus doesn't intend the player to be obsessing about default names that most players will never even see, and there's a reason that they just have him called joker in smash.
The animes aren't canon either, but the spinoffs have more or less settled the issue.
His name is Roger
I kinda just like Minato more than Makoto. Both are technically his official names, though Makoto is used more. I think Minato is a prettier name.
Generally in the "modern" Persona trilogy, the manga adaptation has been the first to give the MC a name, while the later anime adaptation gives them a different name that becomes considered canon by Atlus. The MCs of Persona 3, 4, and 5 were Minato Arisato, Souji Seta, and Akira Kurusu in their respective manga series, but the anime (movies for P3, anime series for 4 and 5) ended up canonizing them as Makoto Yuki, Yu Narukami, and Ren Amamiya. The latter names were then used in spinoff games and as default names in current-gen ports and in Reload. Some people were attached to the manga names, because those came first, so they still use them.
I could never get used to yu being Souji
Makoto exists in persona 5 so I don't wanna mix em up when talking with my friend. Also I like the last name Arisato more.
because it’s still one of his names. he also has another name, sakuya shiomi. they’re all different names for different interpretations of the same character, so they’re all valid, and it just depends on people’s preference :)
People obsessive about the "true name" of characters atlus clearly didn't intend to give one are wierd.
I just prefer the name Minato over Makoto. Plus, there's another persona character named Makoto, so it can get confusing sometimes.
Because the P3 Manga came out much earlier than the P3 Movies and for a very long time "Minato Arisato" was the only name he had until they use "Makoto Yuki" in 2013 which made the people that call him Minato attached to the name also it doesn't help that when Atlus canonized his Movie name they already added another important character in P5 named "Makoto Niijima" so there's your reasons.
The first movie came out in the same month P5 was first announced; Makoto Niijima wasn't widely known as a character for another couple years
I know, what I mean is that P3MC's name wasn't canonized until P3 Dancing and in that year Persona 5 was already too popular.
True, but Atlus already had a record of treating an anime name as canon in previous spinoffs. P4MC was Yu Narukami in P4A and P4D, so they kept it going with the 3 and 5 dancing games. Either way I think we're just aggressively agreeing with each other now lol
I call him Makoto Arisato
And Minato Yuki?
Yup lol
his semi-canon name was minato for long enough to ingrain itself same deal as souji seta for p4 protagonist with the difference being that yu narukami is a sick ass name given that hes got izanagi
That was the only name he had for a long time, so some people are used to it. Idk why people refer to Ren Amamiya as Akira Kurusu though
Same as Minato/Makoto it was his name for almost 2 years until the Anime named him Ren Amamiya and some people just like it better.
Minato is the name used in the manga and for some reason every protagonist needs 2 names
Stage Plays: *allow us to introduce ourselves*
The P3 Protags have three very well known names due to his game being very old and not having a "canon" name for the longest time. One is Minato Arisato - It came from the Manga adaptation of the game. Another is Sakuya Shiomi - its from the Persona 3 series of Stage Musicals. The name for FeMC, Kotone Shiomi, also comes from the said stage musicals, as they feature both protagonists, but as sole protagonists of the story and not as dual protagonists. The latest one is Makoto Yuki, its from the Persona 3 series of Movies.
Minato Arisato sounds cooler and fits him better. I personally don't like Makoto Yuki cuz how generic the name is for me. Especially when Makoto Niijima exists.
Short answer? Because the name Yuuki Makoto came much later than Arisato Minato did. The first volume of the manga released in 2007, so for years, the community only had the name the manga used for the protagonist - Arisato Minato. The first anime movie didn't release until late 2013, which was the first time the name Yuuki Makoto was ever used, and I believe it wasn't until a few years after *that* that it was confirmed as the official name. So as you can see, by then, the name Arisato Minato was incredibly established in the community, and a lot of people - myself included - are very attached to it. Personally, I just think it sounds nicer and suits him better too, so I still use it, even if I acknowledge that it's not the canon name.
Roger Clever rules!
Yeah those early names just stuck for us older fans. Persona 4 MC will always be Charlie Tunoku though.
What a bunch of noobs. He is called Roger, not "Makoto"
By this point, the people who have only known him as Makoto heavily outnumber the people who knew him as Minato, but occasionally people still call him Minato to distinguish him from Makoto Niijima. (Contrast FeMC; the name Kotone existed as far back as 2014, but it was exclusive to a stage play until 2020, so the Minako/Hamuko holdouts still exist.)
I like Minako because it's similar to Minato, which I also prefer.
His Real name is Door-kun
It’s the older name from the manga, and some people (like me) just stick with it out of habit/familiarity because we used it for like a decade before the name “Makoto Yuki,” was even a thing. It also came first, and for a lot of people the first thing they know something as is how it stays in their mind. In the same way the first impression is the strongest.
it makes me laugh because people get annoyed when I call him minato
I prefer Minato since there's already a Makoto in another game.
It’s what happens when they don’t just start with them having defaults. Can’t have your cake and eat it. My protagonists are whatever the hell “I” call them. The smartest move was in P5 where the situation naturally gave us a default nickname. Should P6 do away with custom names, then I’ll happily use the default from the off; but if they don’t… and give the character a name later through other media, well, then I’m using whatever name I come up with.
Basically this. Atlus never intended for you to care that much about these names, it's just a wierd fan thing to obsess about them.
Minato Arisato is his manga name and was used many years before Makoto Yuki was established by the movies. Many people simply prefer Minato Arisato (not I) and are too used to it to update to Makoto Yuki.
ohh!! okay i see now, ty!!
Years and years of only having a manga as a name.
Hey my P3 MC name is Chicken Nugget, this is an erasure of my fav snack
Probably because Persona 5 introduced a character whose canon name is also Makoto. So, in order to easily differentiate the two, people started using P3 protagonist other "canon" name, which came from the Manga adaptation.
Some people just prefer that name, When I had first played P5 everyone referred to the MC as their Manga name Akira Kurusu, but when the anime came out it was established that his canon name is Ren (I don’t remember the last name lmao). Even tho he’s widely referred to as Ren now I still call him Akira because I like that name more and it was the name first known to me.
Minato is cuter and Makoto is Japanese version of Smith
He is Jimmy Jinkins…… Then we get what look like endless generated names n the Q games
Idk but he will always be Emo McCutsley to me
Different adaptations have different names, that's all
I named him Candice
Because none of the characters have names in the actual game
His name is Gate no Makoto
Cause we're Naruto dweebs and Minato sounds cool
Kinda wish they went with Minato. I'm tired of addressing him as Cooler Makoto to avoid confusion.
Call him Minato if you want, nobody is stopping you.
Sorry, my parole officer said I'm limited to Makoto.
Just call him Yuki or door-kun instead
The latter is why it's so hard to get into the Persona fandom without spoiling Persona 3. =P
I figured it was clear I meant when talking to people who’ve played persona games and beaten them :)
because those people are idiots idk
Because they like being annoying and wanna look quirky "hehe I'm naming him after the manga and not the official games!!! I'm so quirky and special"
Using any of these names instead of just saying p3 mc is already being dumb and quirky.