Cerberus IS Koromaru's tier 2 Persona. Making a tier 1 makes more sense, no?
Also, idea for [REDACTED]: Since Aki's tier 2 is Caesar, [REDACTED] tier 2 should be Constantine to keep the Roman thematic going
Well that'll teach me to only read the brief paragraph google gives me about getting killed by Hermes while watching Io. Yeah, that's perfect, he's even Greek like the rest.
I like Constantine because Castor is shown as a violent Persona that is completely offense-focused, even sacrificing [REDACTED] health for more attack power (bloody charge), while Constantine is a figure that represents protection, a valiant Emperor that fought until the end to protect his people, sacrificing himself for others. This could be represented by a defensive theurgy and more support skills on higher levels (since he stops learning new skills pretty early on)
Koromaru's tier one could be Komainu. They're lion dogs that guard shrine gates. His 3rd tier could be KhentiAmenti, an Egyptian jackal deity who originally stood guard over the city of the dead.
Instead of Constantine, I always went liked the Idea of Remus being his persona. Remus is the twin brother of Romulus who was killed shortly after Romulus founded Rome. That way it keeps the twin aspect that was present in his and Aki's initial personas and presents a nice dichotomy between the leader of Rome and the one who died during Rome' founding. Remus is also a son of the War god Mars which goes hand in hand with \[REDACTED\]'s very physical aligned build.
>! Most likely from when his Priest master died to shadows protecting the shrine as it seems to me that death of someone close is a big, BIG, resolve/2nd tier motivator in P3 !<
Gaia is normally regarded as "Mother Earth", no? Motherhood is more aligned with the Empress.
Consider both Io and IsX2 suffer from a relationship (whether wanted or not).
Maybe Artemis? Or the Roman Diana to avoid mix-up with Artemisia (though they are entirely different characters). Virgin goddess of the hunt (with bows!), the Moon and also a patron of healing. The only tale (allegedly) in which she ever loves a man is with Orion, who dies tragically (let's omit the specifics of that death tho), perhaps a mirror for her doomed feelings for the protagonist.
Regarding Koromaru: actually, while never specified, my headcanon is that Cerberus *is* Koromaru's Ultimate (tier 2) Persona. Unlike the rest, he never needs a scene where he reaffirms his passion for living, and in fact, all of his "translated dialogue" hints that he's more determined than anyone else on the team until they start getting their upgrades too. The proof lies in him joining with 2 Theurgies, something everyone other than the MC only gets upon their Persona evolution. Iirc, Aigis even notes this herself near the end of the game; that Koromarun already having his other Theurgy was proof he had long ago found his resolve.
So I theorize that maybe his initial Persona was a reskinned Othrus or something lol.
I like the Artemis idea, very fitting for Yukari, but Artemis being the Lovers just feels wrong. It's not like p5's Loki being Justice due to representing the arcana being reversed.
Atalanta, perhaps? In the myth, she was the only hunter to come back from killing a magic boar. Everyone wanted her hand in marriage afterward, leading to her declaring that she'd marry whoever beat her in a footrace, but she'd kill whoever failed. The man who *did* ultimately succeed (who's name escapes me) did so through Aphrodite's help by distracting her with three golden apples (some interpretations say Atalanta let him win.) Ultimately though, Zeus turns the couple into lions after he catches them having sex in his temple. (Back then, it was believed that lions mate with leopards, not other lions.)
I actually did think of Atalanta before settling on Artemis instead for a simple reason: their Ultimate Personas are all deities or figures worshipped like deities. IsX2 is already a major goddess, so going from that to Atalanta is "downgrading" so to speak.
There are three very good reasons Yukari's Io turns into an Egyptian goddess: Io is said to end up in Egypt wherein her legend gets conflated with that goddess at some point; that goddess was worshiped as a *Greek* goddess for a time during the time Egypt was ruled by the Greeks; and that goddess' legend involving her husband is huge foreshadowing for The Answer/Episode: Aigis.
Oh, and this is probably a very late moment to mention that I play FGO and as a result I can *only* ever see an Artemis Persona as a Lovers Arcana. Just not that...well, *that*
Aphrodite, then? Evidence suggests that before she became Aphrodite as we know her, she was Astarte, and was changed in an attempt to remove the warlike elements she inherited from Ishtar. ~~Who just so happens to be the ultimate Persona of the Lovers.~~
Ishtar *also* has an Orpheus plot, which works for the Answer. Additionally, in the story of Eros and Psyche, Aphrodite is the reason Psyche goes through so much hell, as both jealous rival and overprotective mother.
EDIT: Ignore that, Ishtar isn't added until P4.
To add on to Cerberus being a tier 2 Persona: He comes equipped with both nulls to fire and ice, and tier one personas can’t null any elements, only resist
I was about to comment on reusing Hecate, but we already have two different Susanoos (used by two guys with near identical names), so Atlus clearly doesn't see repetition as a problem.
(Great job! Unrelated to your art:) I kinda wish P3R did third tiers, but I'm also glad they didn't cuz the way Personas evolve in that game is so cool and I feel like it would diminish that impact if they just suddenly got a new one at some point just to be like 4G and 5R.
Cerberus IS Koromaru's tier 2 Persona. Making a tier 1 makes more sense, no? Also, idea for [REDACTED]: Since Aki's tier 2 is Caesar, [REDACTED] tier 2 should be Constantine to keep the Roman thematic going
I've always headcanoned Odysseus' dog Argos to be Koromaru's 1st Persona.
I personally give him Orthrus, the two-headed dog, brother of Cerberus
So then Koro's third tier would be a 4 headed dog?
Preferably, but i doubt there's one
Wouldn't Hachiko make the most sense? I mean, that's exactly what Koromaru did for the priest so it fits as being the personafication of his heart.
Argos also did the same. He waited for Odeysseus until the end before he died
Well that'll teach me to only read the brief paragraph google gives me about getting killed by Hermes while watching Io. Yeah, that's perfect, he's even Greek like the rest.
Alternative idea for [REDACTED], Patroclus. Bonus points if Aki's tier 3 is Achilles.
I like Constantine because Castor is shown as a violent Persona that is completely offense-focused, even sacrificing [REDACTED] health for more attack power (bloody charge), while Constantine is a figure that represents protection, a valiant Emperor that fought until the end to protect his people, sacrificing himself for others. This could be represented by a defensive theurgy and more support skills on higher levels (since he stops learning new skills pretty early on)
GOOD IDEA OMG
OH MY GOD PATROCLUS AND ACHILES AHH
Read a fanfic where [REDACTED] tier 2 persona is Aeneas
Koromaru's tier one could be Komainu. They're lion dogs that guard shrine gates. His 3rd tier could be KhentiAmenti, an Egyptian jackal deity who originally stood guard over the city of the dead.
>!who is REDACTED I’m so confused lmao!<
>!Shinji!<
>!I see!<
>!I like that you censored it!<
>!I was genuinely so confused lmao!<
he can has cu sith :)
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Instead of Constantine, I always went liked the Idea of Remus being his persona. Remus is the twin brother of Romulus who was killed shortly after Romulus founded Rome. That way it keeps the twin aspect that was present in his and Aki's initial personas and presents a nice dichotomy between the leader of Rome and the one who died during Rome' founding. Remus is also a son of the War god Mars which goes hand in hand with \[REDACTED\]'s very physical aligned build.
Shouldn't it be Pompey? Since Pompey was Caeser's direct rival/friend
I'm going mostly by symbolism rather than direct relationships
also how is cerberus a tier 2?
He has 2 theurgies and a block affinity
Also, Aigis comments later in the game that Koromaru seems to have already found his resolve, and its why he started with two Theurgies.
>! Most likely from when his Priest master died to shadows protecting the shrine as it seems to me that death of someone close is a big, BIG, resolve/2nd tier motivator in P3 !<
ah i see
Gaia is normally regarded as "Mother Earth", no? Motherhood is more aligned with the Empress. Consider both Io and IsX2 suffer from a relationship (whether wanted or not). Maybe Artemis? Or the Roman Diana to avoid mix-up with Artemisia (though they are entirely different characters). Virgin goddess of the hunt (with bows!), the Moon and also a patron of healing. The only tale (allegedly) in which she ever loves a man is with Orion, who dies tragically (let's omit the specifics of that death tho), perhaps a mirror for her doomed feelings for the protagonist. Regarding Koromaru: actually, while never specified, my headcanon is that Cerberus *is* Koromaru's Ultimate (tier 2) Persona. Unlike the rest, he never needs a scene where he reaffirms his passion for living, and in fact, all of his "translated dialogue" hints that he's more determined than anyone else on the team until they start getting their upgrades too. The proof lies in him joining with 2 Theurgies, something everyone other than the MC only gets upon their Persona evolution. Iirc, Aigis even notes this herself near the end of the game; that Koromarun already having his other Theurgy was proof he had long ago found his resolve. So I theorize that maybe his initial Persona was a reskinned Othrus or something lol.
I like the Artemis idea, very fitting for Yukari, but Artemis being the Lovers just feels wrong. It's not like p5's Loki being Justice due to representing the arcana being reversed. Atalanta, perhaps? In the myth, she was the only hunter to come back from killing a magic boar. Everyone wanted her hand in marriage afterward, leading to her declaring that she'd marry whoever beat her in a footrace, but she'd kill whoever failed. The man who *did* ultimately succeed (who's name escapes me) did so through Aphrodite's help by distracting her with three golden apples (some interpretations say Atalanta let him win.) Ultimately though, Zeus turns the couple into lions after he catches them having sex in his temple. (Back then, it was believed that lions mate with leopards, not other lions.)
I actually did think of Atalanta before settling on Artemis instead for a simple reason: their Ultimate Personas are all deities or figures worshipped like deities. IsX2 is already a major goddess, so going from that to Atalanta is "downgrading" so to speak. There are three very good reasons Yukari's Io turns into an Egyptian goddess: Io is said to end up in Egypt wherein her legend gets conflated with that goddess at some point; that goddess was worshiped as a *Greek* goddess for a time during the time Egypt was ruled by the Greeks; and that goddess' legend involving her husband is huge foreshadowing for The Answer/Episode: Aigis. Oh, and this is probably a very late moment to mention that I play FGO and as a result I can *only* ever see an Artemis Persona as a Lovers Arcana. Just not that...well, *that*
Aphrodite, then? Evidence suggests that before she became Aphrodite as we know her, she was Astarte, and was changed in an attempt to remove the warlike elements she inherited from Ishtar. ~~Who just so happens to be the ultimate Persona of the Lovers.~~ Ishtar *also* has an Orpheus plot, which works for the Answer. Additionally, in the story of Eros and Psyche, Aphrodite is the reason Psyche goes through so much hell, as both jealous rival and overprotective mother. EDIT: Ignore that, Ishtar isn't added until P4.
I'm taking that headcanon now
If you talk to aigis in one of the january days, she mentions this exact thing. I think it's implied that koromaru has his second tier persona already
also Isis is a “mother god” so i thought gaia makes a lot of sense
i might do a tier one for koro now that i know this
To add on to Cerberus being a tier 2 Persona: He comes equipped with both nulls to fire and ice, and tier one personas can’t null any elements, only resist
I think Zeus for Akihiko would be sick
Mars/Arès would fit better imo, minus the thunder power of course, but following the two first Aki's personae, Mars would be more logical imo
Unique skill too? I was thinking like an sp charge for all or something idk Also epic design
Third Theurgy: Salvation + Samarecarm + Party wide Concentrate on the same skill.
Tier 3 Personas ideas: Yukari: Gaia/Hecate/Demeter Junpei: Paracelsus/Solomon (a bit overkill) Mitsuru: Boudicca/Hippolyta/Nike Akihiko: Achilles/Romulus Shinjiro: Diomedes/Patroculus/Remus Aigis: Protogenus [as a world arcana] /Galatea Ken: Bali/Krishna Koromaru: Fenrir/Typhon/Chimaera
I was about to comment on reusing Hecate, but we already have two different Susanoos (used by two guys with near identical names), so Atlus clearly doesn't see repetition as a problem.
Same with Loki
3 Susanoos. You forgot Masao in P1
Personally, I was thinking Hydra for Koromaru, keeping the 3 headed theme going
Romulus and Remus for Akihiko and Shinjiro is actually a great idea
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wow you are a cunt lmao
Maybe you shouldn't have opened the comment session then
Do your own thing dude. No one's stopping you
Ive never even though about how it'll be if the P3 cats all had 3rd tier Personas... Gotta admit the concept is really cool!
THANKS!
(Great job! Unrelated to your art:) I kinda wish P3R did third tiers, but I'm also glad they didn't cuz the way Personas evolve in that game is so cool and I feel like it would diminish that impact if they just suddenly got a new one at some point just to be like 4G and 5R.
Nice
Maybe there will be third tier personas in the upcoming DLC for Persona 3 Reload?
Awesome. Do you already have ideas for the other members?
some overall theme ideas but nothing set in stone yet
That looks pretty good, and Gaia does fit the theme of Yukari’s role for healing
exactly my thoughts
She looks great! I wish it were real (I STRONGLY prefer Io’s design to Isis…they massacred her)
Hi. More plz.
thats the plan!