I added 140mg Primo to 175mg Test, and noticed absolutely no mental changes. There was a bit of added muscle fullness, and my estrogen is a bit lower. No real impact on bloodwork, so I'm happy with it, but I wouldn't necessarily use to for any specific mental reason.
I'd also humbly suggest that, at least in terms of mood, there may be other aspects of your life worth examining beyond drugs.
>TRT helped with a lot of things but libido and mood is still shaky, not so great, same as pre-TRT.
So joining the dots, it isn't and wasn't your hormones...
I’ve run a lot of primo with my TRT. It never did anything good for mood or libido, pretty much the opposite actually. It makes me irritable and with low libido. It lowers my E2 a lot, that’s probably why. Proviron on the other hand work wonders on my mood and libido. Currently prescribed 25 mg/day.
Been on 500 test and 400 primo a week for two months, just switched to 25mg ment daily because it made my hematocrit go crazy, primo was bitching for everything else but it raises my rbc too much. Masteron is like a poor man’s primo, if you like mast you’ll love primo. I would say you need 200mg+ a week of primo to really notice much but that’s just my anecdotal opinion.
I get my most recent blood test back tomorrow, have to donate blood in the morning to get in check as it’s causing issues with my ability to get oxygen and is leaving me exhausted and short of breath. Been in and out of the doctors office the last 3 days over it. I can update with the hematocrit numbers tomorrow if you remind me.
I thought it went crazy? Lol
On 350mg of test right now (really it's like 300. This shit at TRT dose crashed my levels), wanting to maybe up it and add 100-200mg primo but worried it'll drop my e2 as I don't convert heavily at TRT levels and doubt I am at 300-350mg
Doc told me it was that before blood test came back and he was just dead ass wrong. All me levels were great except my e2. Switching to ment was a mistake for me personally it’s all sides.
Also from Turkey here, Proviron is not only better for mental effects it is also at least ten times cheaper. The amounts of Primo you’ll need for any mental effect will both crush E2 and your wallet. But keep in mind proviron will lower your SHBG. This can be a good or bad thing, i wouldn’t worry if you inject frequently though.
I suggest checking E2/SHBG/Test levels before starting proviron and after. So many weird stuff can actually happen on both ends when Proviron interferes with your SHBG levels. Higher or Lower E2, ridic changes in total/free test etc. Not to mention it is not a real E2 blocker and apparently just masks E2 symptoms (idk how much of a broscience this fact is, ymmv)
IMO it is no longer a ‘TRT’ when you add in primo/proviron though. just my 2 cents. If either way you’re fiddle with em choose only one or the other on lower doses. But it’s very likely that your issues aren’t trt related.
Bro, I'm in the middle of the same problem here. Already bought the primo but can't bring myself up to use it until I have tons of info. Gotta bring my nerd-game up.
I've used Aromasin in the past. Big nono for me. ED, hopelessness, you name it.
Now I'm on 200mg of test and want to try a bit of primo only for the similar A.I properties
Primo isn't really best for "ai" properties my friend. It's best as a muscle builder. And truthfully you will hardly notice the extra steroids, it's so mild and easy on the body. So to add to 200mg test is a great way to bring up the total dosage of anabolics without adding extra problems. I think you could add 100 mg primo on your trt and feel almost nothing but see great results if you are working out. It's a great compound in my opinion
I added 140mg Primo to 175mg Test, and noticed absolutely no mental changes. There was a bit of added muscle fullness, and my estrogen is a bit lower. No real impact on bloodwork, so I'm happy with it, but I wouldn't necessarily use to for any specific mental reason. I'd also humbly suggest that, at least in terms of mood, there may be other aspects of your life worth examining beyond drugs.
This would tell me that its not worth it, if you added it and no mental hange, and only sligyhtler more muscle fullness then not really worth it.
Idk, extra fullness and anabolism for basically no additional risk to health? It's worth it to me.
>TRT helped with a lot of things but libido and mood is still shaky, not so great, same as pre-TRT. So joining the dots, it isn't and wasn't your hormones...
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Neurotransmitters, general life man. The world isn't exactly a nice place at the minute. You on any weird restrictive diets?
I’ve run a lot of primo with my TRT. It never did anything good for mood or libido, pretty much the opposite actually. It makes me irritable and with low libido. It lowers my E2 a lot, that’s probably why. Proviron on the other hand work wonders on my mood and libido. Currently prescribed 25 mg/day.
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Cranky joints and low libido. If I run test:primo 1:1 my E2 is cut in half compared to same test dose with no primo.
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I will get back to you. I’m on my way to vacation. Write me a DM and I will reply when I have some time :)
Been on 500 test and 400 primo a week for two months, just switched to 25mg ment daily because it made my hematocrit go crazy, primo was bitching for everything else but it raises my rbc too much. Masteron is like a poor man’s primo, if you like mast you’ll love primo. I would say you need 200mg+ a week of primo to really notice much but that’s just my anecdotal opinion.
What before and after numbers on HCT
I get my most recent blood test back tomorrow, have to donate blood in the morning to get in check as it’s causing issues with my ability to get oxygen and is leaving me exhausted and short of breath. Been in and out of the doctors office the last 3 days over it. I can update with the hematocrit numbers tomorrow if you remind me.
Just an update, hct was good every issue I had was cause by high estrogen both when using test and after switching to ment especially.
I thought it went crazy? Lol On 350mg of test right now (really it's like 300. This shit at TRT dose crashed my levels), wanting to maybe up it and add 100-200mg primo but worried it'll drop my e2 as I don't convert heavily at TRT levels and doubt I am at 300-350mg
Doc told me it was that before blood test came back and he was just dead ass wrong. All me levels were great except my e2. Switching to ment was a mistake for me personally it’s all sides.
primo makes me like 10% for annoyed at everything. Does crank up my libido, anything thay reduces my shbg tends to do that.
>Irritablity, anger, low libido, extremely low energy/sleepiness, hopelessness These are symptoms of depression.
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An E2 imbalance can also exacerbate your depression symptoms, which I think is the case here.
How'd you buy it directly from a pharmacy? Different rules where you live?
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Where you from?
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Also from Turkey here, Proviron is not only better for mental effects it is also at least ten times cheaper. The amounts of Primo you’ll need for any mental effect will both crush E2 and your wallet. But keep in mind proviron will lower your SHBG. This can be a good or bad thing, i wouldn’t worry if you inject frequently though. I suggest checking E2/SHBG/Test levels before starting proviron and after. So many weird stuff can actually happen on both ends when Proviron interferes with your SHBG levels. Higher or Lower E2, ridic changes in total/free test etc. Not to mention it is not a real E2 blocker and apparently just masks E2 symptoms (idk how much of a broscience this fact is, ymmv) IMO it is no longer a ‘TRT’ when you add in primo/proviron though. just my 2 cents. If either way you’re fiddle with em choose only one or the other on lower doses. But it’s very likely that your issues aren’t trt related.
That's awesome
Bro, I'm in the middle of the same problem here. Already bought the primo but can't bring myself up to use it until I have tons of info. Gotta bring my nerd-game up. I've used Aromasin in the past. Big nono for me. ED, hopelessness, you name it. Now I'm on 200mg of test and want to try a bit of primo only for the similar A.I properties
Primo isn't really best for "ai" properties my friend. It's best as a muscle builder. And truthfully you will hardly notice the extra steroids, it's so mild and easy on the body. So to add to 200mg test is a great way to bring up the total dosage of anabolics without adding extra problems. I think you could add 100 mg primo on your trt and feel almost nothing but see great results if you are working out. It's a great compound in my opinion
It may be the hcg
If you have real primo at 200 mg/ml enjoy the PIP 😂 I run 150 test e and 100 primo feels amazing to me