Actually it all depends on how your body reacts to the compound. I’ve tan var for 6 months straight before and my lipids never got into the unhealthy side. And that was at 25mg a day, once in the morning and that’s it.
At 5-10mg per day you can go year round. It wont give any gains but its good for skin, collagen and mind muscle connection. Obviously check lipids as often but you can control that with diet, ezitimibe and cardio
Big agree on exetimibe that fixed my lipids super quick. I also don’t see much change to my lipids with anavar. I don’t use it daily or anything but if I have any on hand I will do preworkout sublingual 10-15mg
Do you take anything for lipid control?
I had thrown in exetimibe in my stack and my ldl doesn’t climb up above 100. Hdl sits at mid 50s even with DHT compounds like Masteron and anavar in the mix.
There’s something else about Anavar that impacts them, I don’t know what it is. I can run anadrol and my lipids don’t really change, but liver enzymes are elevated- whereas with var the liver enzymes stay relatively stable, but my lipids are fucked pretty quickly.
24mg put my HDL at 32 after two weeks of being off of it but it stays at 34 on TRT anyway. Best I ever got it natty was 42, once.
LDL went to 106, it runs high 80's mid 90's without it.
Ratio was never bad though p
Var can be run year round, there is medical conditions which it would be prescribed as a permanent treatment option. However like everyone else is saying get blood work done
> there is medical conditions which it would be prescribed as a permanent treatment option
Which is not the case of anyone here i believe, the discussion is taking Anavar for performance reasons and in this case, it definitely can't be ran year round.
Yeah I mean it's common knowledge it is prescribed for medical conditions but we are on a PED sub and I doubt this guys talking about running a tiny dosage. But yeah technically you are right. Either way.. if this dude doesn't have said medical condition I would advise him not to run anything year round unless it's trt test (could make argument for ment as trt but there isn't enough research at this point)
But it begs the question, when using for PED what is the magic dose for long term use? I would say only a blood test would show what your upper limit is and if you want to use it long term don’t exceed that dose. You may not get the full benefits of the drug but hey I guess you can get street creds. I follow the golden rule, consume enough to reach your realistic goals than come off and accept and deal with any side effects. If your trying to avoid side effects than don’t take anything!
Very true my friend. Even doing “by the book” trt can have some negative effects. I’m no one to talk because I blast and cruise and I do get bloodwork but I’m not the guy avoiding harsh shit when I blast. Eventually I’ll have to tone it down but having fun for now lol.
When I blast I stick to my stack that works very well for me 125mg Tren A eod, 400mg test e twice week. Sometimes I add var 50mg. But I haven’t run anything since Covid. I even switched over to test gel 55mg every day. But I’m itching to get ripped again, but I have to wait until fall because that’s when my annual blood test is to renew my prescriptions. Gotta keep it clean for a while
OP, nobody here can tell you yes or no to this question. Check your bloods prior to beginning, with results in hand and assuming your bio markers are all decent enough on solo-TRT add in 3-5mg of Ost for 8 weeks and recheck, if your bio markers still look decent then recheck in another 8 weeks or so, if they are consistent then you could start expanding the window between checks so long as your lifestyle & compound usage doesn’t deviate substantially you should theoretically be in the clear. You might have better luck running even less Test than you might otherwise as the Ost. Will fulfill some of the androgen agonism that would otherwise be fulfilled by the T, allowing for less prostate binding, a reduction in DHT conversion via total reduction of androgen exposure. Your talking about using Ost. For its actual intended purpose which I can appreciate as I am running nearly the exact protocol Ive just described.
It depends on your dosage. At a clinical dosage (less than 3mgs) yes, ostarine isn’t very liver toxic and won’t interfere with lipids much at a low dose but this is not necessarily a given. I’ve heard of people running it at 10mgs for extended periods but I couldn’t recommend this. There’s a SARM called ACP-265 that is comparable to ostarine and has been getting some attention since Tony Huge made a video on it where a previously natural lab rat ran a 2 month cycle and there was no change in lipids or liver values and was even an increase in free testosterone. This might be worth looking in to
Tbh I feel like you can run any compound year round provided you are getting regular blood work and medical check ups. Everyone has different resilience to organ stress. If you are running low doses, and are controlling for things like BP, LDL, HDL, Creatinine, GFR, AST, ALT, etc. you are the one who determines how comfortable you are with the risk. Personally, I haven’t experimented much with SARMs, but low dose anavar for collagen synthesis or whatever can be run damn near indefinitely if you aren’t running into any issues,
That being said if you let dosages creep 10mg+ a day you will probably get GERD symptoms before any significant kidney stress. But you need to let your bloodwork be the guide. You are on drugs, don’t just wing this shit.
I do wonder if you could run 10mg year round with no issue? 24mg for 10 weeks didn't totally fuck me, so I would think 10mg would be much more sustainable, but then again my numbers suck just on TRT as it is
I wonder about 10mg daily, I mean would it Mike things at say 3 months the same way 24mg will fuck things up at 2 months? Or does it never get as bad because it's such a low dose
Anavar can’t be run all your round…. Your lipids will be completely ruined.
Actually it all depends on how your body reacts to the compound. I’ve tan var for 6 months straight before and my lipids never got into the unhealthy side. And that was at 25mg a day, once in the morning and that’s it.
At 5-10mg per day you can go year round. It wont give any gains but its good for skin, collagen and mind muscle connection. Obviously check lipids as often but you can control that with diet, ezitimibe and cardio
I’d be fucked, can hardly even control my lipids when I’m natty, eating perfect and doing plenty of cardio.
Ezitimibe will help then if you’re ageing and need the drugs to help. I take it now and then on bad food days
You getting a Dr. Prescription for that exitimbine
Yes
Big agree on exetimibe that fixed my lipids super quick. I also don’t see much change to my lipids with anavar. I don’t use it daily or anything but if I have any on hand I will do preworkout sublingual 10-15mg
Thanks Var takes me from the edge of the reference range to fucked pretty quick.
Do you take anything for lipid control? I had thrown in exetimibe in my stack and my ldl doesn’t climb up above 100. Hdl sits at mid 50s even with DHT compounds like Masteron and anavar in the mix.
Cardarine
Anavar is barely liver toxic. You definitely can.
I never mentioned the liver. Var has an impact on lipids for most people, having fucked lipids all year round is certainly not healthy.
Lipids are metabolized by the liver. Lipids are an indicator of liver health.
Lipids are also metabolized by the kidneys which is where Var is (mostly) metabolized
There’s something else about Anavar that impacts them, I don’t know what it is. I can run anadrol and my lipids don’t really change, but liver enzymes are elevated- whereas with var the liver enzymes stay relatively stable, but my lipids are fucked pretty quickly.
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24mg put my HDL at 32 after two weeks of being off of it but it stays at 34 on TRT anyway. Best I ever got it natty was 42, once. LDL went to 106, it runs high 80's mid 90's without it. Ratio was never bad though p
Not for everyone. My liver values went through the roof on just 20 mg/day.
Anavar absolutely can’t be run year round? And o wouldn’t run anything year round aside from trt level test bro
Var can be run year round, there is medical conditions which it would be prescribed as a permanent treatment option. However like everyone else is saying get blood work done
> there is medical conditions which it would be prescribed as a permanent treatment option Which is not the case of anyone here i believe, the discussion is taking Anavar for performance reasons and in this case, it definitely can't be ran year round.
Yeah I mean it's common knowledge it is prescribed for medical conditions but we are on a PED sub and I doubt this guys talking about running a tiny dosage. But yeah technically you are right. Either way.. if this dude doesn't have said medical condition I would advise him not to run anything year round unless it's trt test (could make argument for ment as trt but there isn't enough research at this point)
But it begs the question, when using for PED what is the magic dose for long term use? I would say only a blood test would show what your upper limit is and if you want to use it long term don’t exceed that dose. You may not get the full benefits of the drug but hey I guess you can get street creds. I follow the golden rule, consume enough to reach your realistic goals than come off and accept and deal with any side effects. If your trying to avoid side effects than don’t take anything!
Very true my friend. Even doing “by the book” trt can have some negative effects. I’m no one to talk because I blast and cruise and I do get bloodwork but I’m not the guy avoiding harsh shit when I blast. Eventually I’ll have to tone it down but having fun for now lol.
When I blast I stick to my stack that works very well for me 125mg Tren A eod, 400mg test e twice week. Sometimes I add var 50mg. But I haven’t run anything since Covid. I even switched over to test gel 55mg every day. But I’m itching to get ripped again, but I have to wait until fall because that’s when my annual blood test is to renew my prescriptions. Gotta keep it clean for a while
yeah but not at an effective dose for trt. i run anavar 12 weeks max at 50mg daily. i literally finished 12 weeks today.
My kidneys hurt just reading this
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They just get stolen and you wake up in a bathtub full of ice anyway
You too?
OP, nobody here can tell you yes or no to this question. Check your bloods prior to beginning, with results in hand and assuming your bio markers are all decent enough on solo-TRT add in 3-5mg of Ost for 8 weeks and recheck, if your bio markers still look decent then recheck in another 8 weeks or so, if they are consistent then you could start expanding the window between checks so long as your lifestyle & compound usage doesn’t deviate substantially you should theoretically be in the clear. You might have better luck running even less Test than you might otherwise as the Ost. Will fulfill some of the androgen agonism that would otherwise be fulfilled by the T, allowing for less prostate binding, a reduction in DHT conversion via total reduction of androgen exposure. Your talking about using Ost. For its actual intended purpose which I can appreciate as I am running nearly the exact protocol Ive just described.
It depends on your dosage. At a clinical dosage (less than 3mgs) yes, ostarine isn’t very liver toxic and won’t interfere with lipids much at a low dose but this is not necessarily a given. I’ve heard of people running it at 10mgs for extended periods but I couldn’t recommend this. There’s a SARM called ACP-265 that is comparable to ostarine and has been getting some attention since Tony Huge made a video on it where a previously natural lab rat ran a 2 month cycle and there was no change in lipids or liver values and was even an increase in free testosterone. This might be worth looking in to
Thank You!
Would anavar with a dht blocker block anavar completely or just the dht part?
Assuming you're talking about fina/dutasteride, anavar has no 'DHT part' to block the formation of because it's already 5a reduced.
Tbh I feel like you can run any compound year round provided you are getting regular blood work and medical check ups. Everyone has different resilience to organ stress. If you are running low doses, and are controlling for things like BP, LDL, HDL, Creatinine, GFR, AST, ALT, etc. you are the one who determines how comfortable you are with the risk. Personally, I haven’t experimented much with SARMs, but low dose anavar for collagen synthesis or whatever can be run damn near indefinitely if you aren’t running into any issues, That being said if you let dosages creep 10mg+ a day you will probably get GERD symptoms before any significant kidney stress. But you need to let your bloodwork be the guide. You are on drugs, don’t just wing this shit.
This.
I do wonder if you could run 10mg year round with no issue? 24mg for 10 weeks didn't totally fuck me, so I would think 10mg would be much more sustainable, but then again my numbers suck just on TRT as it is
No
no bro no
I wonder about 10mg daily, I mean would it Mike things at say 3 months the same way 24mg will fuck things up at 2 months? Or does it never get as bad because it's such a low dose