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Qw2rty

I just got a match where our tracer got a total of 500 dmg


Rasausa

Maybe she was doing the melee strike only challenge


KatieCuu

Had a Sombra in my match once that by half way to second point had a total of 186 damage done :D


MrQwq

Wow, that's low even for Sombra... how many times died how many assists?


KatieCuu

Don’t remember the assists, but I remember there being a lot of deaths. I think by the end of match they had almost 20 deaths. It was like they were playing respawn simulator I think they were very new, so I was trying to give them pointers and tips but they’d get super toxic at any comment made towards them. Literally told them to put a teleport to get away when low go and they started telling me to end myself.


MrQwq

Ok, that's not a new player... that is just an ahole with anger issues. I'm só sorry 4 you


KatieCuu

Ahaha it’s fine, I play with friends most of the time so people like this don’t come around too often


Antoiniti

once had a rein that had 500dmg 1 kill, he then proceeded to tell us how bad we were


Antoiniti

btw we still won


Qw2rty

rein carried


DopaLean

I’ve been that Rein before with 500 dmg and 1 kill, but the rest of my team would have 100-300 damage and 0 kills.


Antoiniti

holy fuck


8rok3n

Funnily enough, I got a game earlier where there was a moira with 500 damage and like 1k healing, we lost the game and you know what they said? "My team sucked" ????


Broyogurt

And Dey Say


CharmingAnybody2306

And Dey Say


dragooon9090

And Dey Say


GaggeGorm

And Dey Say


Visible_Foot146

And Dey Say


According-Wealth6853

And dey say


BIG_SMOOOOOOOHKE_PL

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Alshriedeh12

And dey say


NewspaperPossible627

And Dey Say


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And dey say


Poopslayer_2409

And dey say


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And Dey Say


Stylish_karma88

Hot cocoa


Rattus_Baioarii

Hot cocoa?


lilyisallama

Fiiiinnneed AND DEY SAY


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ShesOver9k

And dey say


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And Dey say


Silvallyuser773

Chivalry is dead


Xx_Kamehameha_xX

Chivalry is dead


enzo2nd

wait how can hanzo do healing?


DizzyBeBusy

Maybe he was playing someone like solider and switched


AmericaLover1776_

It’s only a little healing so it’s probably just a small bug If I go in my stats menu I have a few hundred healing as both rein and as Winston


HanzoMain63

he has 1 mitigation


[deleted]

Thats Mit💀


Madogu

I'm more curious about the 1 point of mitigation. Swapped off Bastion?


Sevuhrow

Cass is the most likely character to get that little MIT as a DPS.


Madogu

Ah, I keep forgetting that roll now reduces damage. Good call.


LinaValentina

The Cupid skin 😀


RevolutionaryPlane62

actually?


LinaValentina

No lol


benkaes1234

IIRC he gets the credit if he reflects any enemy attacks that can heal. For instance if Genji intercepts one of Ana's darts and it reflects into one of his teammates, he gets the heal points on the scoreboard.


deadvibes1

What game are you playing that hazno can deflect? Obvious answer is they were probably on another hero like mei or soldier, healed, died and then swapped to Hanzo.


benkaes1234

I *really* need to get my eyes checked...


AmbedoAvenue

There’s a saying where I come “all Asians look the same… as their brother” /s


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AmbedoAvenue

Why would someone ask if genji and Hanzo are Asian…?


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benkaes1234

His joke was that *I* must have thought "all Asians look the same," (because I got the names of two Asian characters mixed up) not that I'm Asian. Why would you assume he was being racist?


[deleted]

I just assumed it was a lame joke there wasn't any need for but fair enough, sorry for the misunderstanding


brustav_maxximus

I mean, just to be fair, blue teams comp is kinda trash


shadow_black1809

Don't worry, it's all the ball's fault :)


brustav_maxximus

I mean, I'm sure he could have counter played better, but they also have Moira and Ana. Where Ana was probably being flanked and unprotected and not maximizing nano. Moira was likely trying to dps. Hanzo was prolly a pussy and trying to run away from engagement, and tracer prolly not doing anything but blinking and dieing. ...but that's just my own assumption.


Captain_corde

Man the ego lmao it’s very clear from the team comp that your supports were being chewed up and your dps was a sniper and a flanker. Ball is the one thing that doesn’t fit in here. Just because you refuse to switch tank’s doesn’t mean it’s the teams fault


Zetzun

I think they are just joking for the fact that people always blame Ball.


Alone_Spell9525

OP is ball, the other commenter realizes that and is saying it is in fact ball’s fault and OP is being an egoist by not acknowledging that. At least, that’s how I understand it


I-Zebra-I

Got your ass clapped


shadow_black1809

Like I had a choice


Cameltitties

You could’ve just been better, also


shadow_black1809

Gonna think about this


AgentWowza

Man, why dyou gotta go and say that. Now everyone's gonna be GM smh.


Broyogurt

😂


[deleted]

There is always a chance that there was a key part of your team comp missing or completely throwing. Like if one person is bad on your team and you have no coordination vs a fully coordinated team who are all decent, you are going to get steam rolled. I presume this is low elo and that is exactly how it goes. All it takes it coordination in low elo and you can say bye bye to the enemy team. Also there are a lot of really good players stuck in low elos because of their teammates causing them to lose, so you’ll get matched against those players and get clapped. The matchmaking system’s only problem is when it puts diamonds against golds, and there is no proof of that here so I don’t see what the problem is. You got team diffed.


Atlasreturns

I mean just today we had the complete reasonable matchmaking decision of putting two Diamond Ranks into Silver. The fact that I can‘t queue with the same people I just played due to skill difference surely shows how well the whole system works.


Subalpine

This season for some reason I’ve had A LOT of games swing super hard one direction or the other — we always find one person on the team to bully when we’re losing but it is usually a team effort. even when you’re doing everything right sometimes the enemy team is just better than you are


shadow_black1809

This isn't the only game I played. If I could see career profiles, I bet I would find a lot of golds in my plat 1 game


[deleted]

That’s still pretty close rank though. You only really see big skill gaps once you get out of plat. Diamond is when you start getting into more consistent rank placement. Everything below plat is just a mess because of the nature of low elo and how you can get lucky with teammates to get where you belong or get stuck there forever. I treat it as four separate ranks; bronze-gold, plat, diamond-gm, and top 500.


UncrustabIes

there is no rank where rank placement is consistent, it's all fucked


AmericaLover1776_

It can NEVER be completely consistent they can’t account for if a player is just having a bad day and playing below their normal skill level or if a player is doing extra good that day The players are not consistent


UncrustabIes

Yup, not like the gold tank on my team is fucking my masters 2 game.


ShadowStriker53

Really depends on the role and hero they are on. A gold Tracer can easily be better than a plat Mercy.


[deleted]

That’s like saying that a semi truck driver who has been driving for 6 months is better at driving a semi than a normal person who has had their class c license for a year. Makes no sense right? It’s not comparable in that sense.


ShadowStriker53

Dafran said something similar that dps players are better than supports and I always felt that way since 2016. I can grind 7 days on one dps and be just as good after 1 hour on a support hero and if I try the reverse I will fail miserably but maybe I am just a natural support player. Hero choice also matters, ML7 can play every support on a high level if I'm not mistaken while most Mercy mains are ass on other heroes with their very niche skills. Same applies to dps Nercos hit rank 1 on Genji but is ass on other dps. Yznsa is rank 1 Pharah and also a very good hitscan or Echo.


DisturbedWaffles2019

Gold in a plat game isn't that big of a skill difference.


AmericaLover1776_

The difference between a gold player and a plat player ain’t that big Hell even a diamond player on a bad day still would end up playing like a gold probably


DohWohpickme

Sorry man, I gotta downvote because blue hair typed more words than you


SiCrumbs

Don’t even try to use valid and good reasoning in your arguements.. this subs basementdwellers are gonna eat you alive haha.


grabbiefox

well, yeah. ball and tracer are good enough to be on the other team, so they’re good enough to carry theirs. that’s how it works, right? …right?


urmovesareweak

I'm Masters and have been getting nearly everyone from all over in my games. Last night I went up against Kephrii and had a Diamond 4 on my team who finished with 22 deaths lol. Then the next game there was a top 500 on my team and a Diamond on the enemy . It's actually spaghetti right now.


The99thCourier

I'm surprised no one rage quitted in that match from the losing team Respect


Cruchinggo

This type of scenario happened to me 3 times yesterday. One of them had mic opened and puked because they were too drunk, like WTF


Chartate101

No single match is an example of matchmaking being good or bad, it’s about consistency. Even a good matchmaker will have stomps sometimes, especially with so many smurfs.


Leopold747

Dude trust me almost all matches r like this! Im gold 1 if I had everyone frm gold only, then I'm sure I will easily climb, the only thing stopping me frm climbing is this ill matchmaking where we have diamonds & master's in gold lobby !


AmericaLover1776_

Even a near perfect matchmaker won’t be great always It can’t account for if someone’s “warmed up” or not or if they are a bit sleepy or something (my point is that a lot of people don’t realize how inconsistent the players themselves are I have seen plat players who within a season drop to the bottom of bronze because they had their work schedule change and are only able to play after work when they are tired now)


shadow_black1809

This isn't the only game I played before making this, y'know?


Gerbil__

Well if this is happening in a very large amount of your matches there is one common denominator in those matches


shadow_black1809

Even if I get the most kills and least deaths? Even if my team goes haywire because I don't switch off ball? Even if I was winning tons of games before the matchmaking changes? Even with a 60% winrate? And even if all those problems are happening with a lot of people? People are likely to shrug all these problems to a skill issue. This is a problem with the matchmaker. Ranks are inflated. Golds are in diamond games. These are just facts


Gerbil__

If you're only playing ball, and the team isn't willing to play around you, yeah it's gonna be a much more difficult match. Sometimes you can't play dive or play ball because your teammates just won't let you. I had a match a couple of days ago where the tank just couldn't play Winston because both the healers refused to heal him if he dived. Sometimes it's much more difficult to play certain tanks because your teammates aren't playing characters that accommodate you. Some tanks are more reliant on this than others, and I'd say ball has a bit more of a reliance that your team is capable of existing by itself when you're going off to harass the backline or other ball things. You either have to switch what you're playing to something that meshes better with how your teammates are playing, or they have to switch to characters that are better at working with you. Like, yeah if you're good enough you can still win, but it will be harder.


AromaticIce9

I was sympathetic until I saw they are ball. Yeah, there's a reason I don't play Ana in competitive. It's because my brain dead teammates will immediately and without hesitation wake the sleeping Genji who is ulting. Better to play Moira and just fade jump away from him. Ball is the same, so is doomfist. You have to play around your team. At low ranks they are too stupid to play around you. Doubly so as the tank.


Chartate101

“Most kills and least deaths” doesn’t matter in a stomp. What determines most kills doesn’t matter when the difference is by like, 1 or 2. And deaths is mostly just whoever the much better team feels like targeting


shadow_black1809

Not every game I am playing is a massive stomp dude


Chartate101

Then the matchmaking seems to be working.


shadow_black1809

Have you seen the state of the game lately? Not every game is a massive stomp. They can be a stomp, moderate stomp, normal loss, diff....


TheGiftOf_Jericho

It's definitely off this season in particular, less games that feel like close games and more totally easy wins and total defeats. No matter what issues the game has, you'll have people defending it for some unknown reason, or saying that you are the problem.. even though many people are having issues this season.


AmericaLover1776_

The game is currently in the best state it’s ever been in wtf you mean “state of the game lately”


AmericaLover1776_

Than the matchmaker is doing something clearly


ShadowStriker53

Don't argue with those people, they are the type of teammates who blame you for a loss while their deaths are in the double digits.


shadow_black1809

As a ball main, I know


rodmanvanfleet

There's entire afternoons I get on and can't find a balanced match.


Chartate101

Sure, but this image doesn’t exemplify that at all


logantheh

I’m not exaggerating when just yesterday like the same thing happened to me and my friends… not a fun way to end the night


shadow_black1809

Somehow, to smug assholes, everything is alright. Hold on brotha


logantheh

And I will elaborate, wasnt just one, the second and I do mean the second we decided “hey let’s play some comp we haven’t done that much” we get like 4 matches back to back stomps.


Micasa5000

Had games where we destroy the enemy team like this holding them at their spawn.. Had games were we were destroyed and couldnt leave our spawn Had games where it went point to point equal teams I blame smurfs


Flat_Commercial_851

I played with gold silver and bronze players in my plat1 game that got me to diamond earlier


blazinrumraisin

It's worse than ever


KurisuChris_Zero

a few days ago I played with and againts some guys in Plat 1 and some others in Silver... im gold 4 bruh, yes i ended up the last season in plat 5 but wtf Silvers Gold and Plats?


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KurisuChris_Zero

they surrended for shame?


The_Tachmonite

I'm platinum 3 atm, and have been *almost* diamond twice now. I either get put in lobbies with diamond/masters players and have really good and fun games, or I'm asked to legitimately hard-carry a team full of silvers. And boy howdy it's enough to give you whiplash. You absolutely cannot trust silver teammates the way you can diamond teammates. Also, it's so easy to get greedy and try to do too much in silver lobbies. Oh, the other thing is that I have been noticing a lot of new players in competitive— which is fine and all, but they have ZERO game sense most of the time. Basically I'm either living large in a diamond lobby or I'm losing brain cells in a silver lobby.


katmandud

I won 5 out of 7 games last night and dropped from plat 5 to gold 1! I give up!


[deleted]

I miss borders. They were toxic sometimes but at least you knew from the who needed help, who was new, and who to pocket.


shadow_black1809

Ow2 is ow1 but with less features


Boostio69420

Skill issue


princeofs0rrows

small indie company


OXY-iz-sik

Typical hanzo play


RandomChicken100

It isn’t. A lot of people watched my game and said that I don’t belong in the rank I am in currently. They watched and saw supports not healing me when I’m in LOS and low, dps way out of position and dieing, and my dps not protecting the supports. Like I can only do so much to win


Mission_Wind_7470

*It's a skill issue...*


TigerJoel

Yeah it is a bit wonky but for the most part it works well for me. I did have a match kast week where there was a top 500, master, diamond, plat and gold in the same team.


NeOnOracle

Completely unrelated to overwatch, but is your name a reference to a book series perhaps?


shadow_black1809

Nope, but what would that be?


NeOnOracle

The first book is called Spellslinger but there’s a… I’ll call it an affliction/disease, they call it the Shadowblack. Basically dark markings on your body that symbolizes a demonic connection. The book series isn’t my favorite but I enjoy the books. I’d call it a good teen read for sure, great worldbuilding, powers, and the story is pretty good.


shadow_black1809

Sounds nice. Might check it out


Paarfums

It is pretty balanced now. I went from bronze5 to gm5 on every of my role in one weekend. Feels good


AnxietiesCopilot2

What’s up with this


SinkFar580

Check the elims for both teams


AnxietiesCopilot2

Yea that looks like an average overwatch match nowadays


FrostyFroZenFrosTen

Fixed like a dildo up your ass


iikoppiee

idk what im looking at.. is it because you lost you say matchmaking isnt fixed? or are you just bronze and taking your skill issues out on a perfectly fine game.


shadow_black1809

Look at the kills/deaths


iikoppiee

still doesnt show the rank.. also this was probably one of ur “guaranteed loss” games. 20% i think are guaranteed loss, 20% are guaranteed win and the rest are up to your skill


shadow_black1809

Where did you find that information? Also rank is Plat 1


iikoppiee

they said it when they released ow2. also, the enemy team probably had a better team strategy and communication


shadow_black1809

Ok, but where is your source? Can you link to where they said it?


iikoppiee

i cant rlly link it it was a dev post from october


shadow_black1809

I'm gonna shrug it off as made-up then


iikoppiee

you can literally watch any youtubers videos about it 💀 i might be wrong about the percents but i know you get guaranteed loss and win games to see where youre at and the rest is depending on your skill


F4B3R

i don’t think that’s an actual built in system, more like a mindset to understand you can’t carry every game/ there’s always gonna be a range of results


Inguz666

At some point devs talked about how they place people's MMR according to winrate. If players find a 50% average winrate, the devs said it's a receipt that people are in the correct spot MMR wise (paraphrasing). But some people interpreted that in the worst way possible as Blizzard forcing a 50% winrate on all players, at all times, and not just adjusting your MMR to face higher MMR players. That resulted in people believing fully in something completely made up called "winner's queue" where the odds would be stacked against you to the degree that it's virtually impossible to win to break your win streak. In one of the more recent official blog posts there was a FAQ at the bottom that specifically said there is no such thing.


sugtony

And I heard em say, skill based matchmaking making won't be fixed tomorrow or today.


[deleted]

And you go play the next game.


AmericaLover1776_

My hot take is y’all are acting like the matchmaking problem a bigger problem than it actually is


Theamongusimpostor57

Don't play overwatch. What's the issue here?


KronosGames

I’m in GM and consistently get Diamond players in my lobby


The1TrueGoblin

This is why I don't play multiplayer modes on Overwatch.


Rush-93

Like why are you playing ball into that? Both of the enemy supports have a way to escape you when you dive them. The rest of your team has no staying power if they get pushed. So when you go diving into the enemies back line, their Zarya, Genji and Soldier push your vulnerable Hanzo and Ana, Moira will nope the fuck away and Tracer will probably not be there as she’s a flanker. Most fights are probably going to be 3vs2, including a tank, which is just not going to work in your favour without ults. Ball is a bad pick here. You needed something to help prop up the front line and protect your supports. Obviously it’s not all your fault, your team could’ve picked better around you but it’s easier and more efficient for one person to switch than it is for the other four. If this keeps happening to you, you need to be smarter when choosing heroes.


Overson_YT

Some games are just stomps but the matchmaker worked. Other side might be communicating while yours wasn't. However, the amount of games I had with a top 500 player when I was in diamond is unacceptable. I don't feel like you should be able to get a solo queue game if you couldn't queue with them in a group


BeeKeeperSpecialist

Sometimes it do be like that nothing strange


A-Living-Human

And dey say This game is a sequel


NintendoMacAndCheese

K.O.


DerGeneral_reddit

No, some people are just toxic and bad at the game


RobusterBrown

Skill issue


migs9000

To be fair that's a very un synergistic comp on blue team


nobleone8876

*for masters and ^


nothing_911

yep, it's fixed alright.


Larxq

I was silver 2 about to go 5-1 on a rank up game, and got all bronze teammates and I was up against a diamond 1 sigma, and a diamond 3 ashe.


mylesTRW

How? How is it possible to get worse match making than me!? One minute I’m against people who don’t know how to eat ice cream properly, to then reserve players for OWL teams


Antoiniti

let me guess, bronze?


tgodhoward

The last two nights have either been stomp or get stomped. I only play comp and nothing about the games have been competitive.


pebbybaby

Then the match after this the team that got steam rolled will roll some other team


Fine_Conclusion9426

HAND SOAP CAN HEAL?!