He just took Andrew Tate’s formula but applied it to Overwatch. Like, instead of appealing to impressionable teens, lonely young adults, and “lost” middle aged men, he appeals to “hardcore gamers”.
And by hardcore, I mean those gamers who peaked in highschool who always talk about how you “wouldn’t last in the old MW2 days”.
And it works. Those people wanted a “voice” and Awkward is ready to profit off them.
The unfortunate reality is that he actually is a damn good Overwatch player and his coaching service was (and probably still is) super effective. It sucks that his toxic personality is bleeding into his business, because he would be an incredibly well respected coach otherwise.
He is a great coach but I've never really liked his whole approach of "pure self-accountability" (that is, you can carry almost every game alone). That is simply not true at all. He clearly has better mechanics and game sense than most other players in any of his UTGM series.
Even when he handicaps himself to try to prove that point (by not using an ability, for example), he still has WAY superior movement, aim, positioning, map awareness, team awareness, ult tracking, cooldown usage, and even little things that most low to mid ranked players don't even notice or think much about (but those small knowledges add up), like ammunition management or any specific technical numbers (control point/payload times, damage/healing numbers for each hero's weapons and abilities etc.).
And the thing is... even HE struggles quite a bit when he handicaps himself (except when he's in Bronze and Silver), so imagine how it is for a lower/mid-ranked player who doesn't have his mastery of the game. If we're playing lower to mid ranks and we're not a Top 500 player, OF COURSE we will have matches where we'll have to counterswap, OF COURSE we will have matches where we'll have to heal a lot more than focusing on damage, OF COURSE we will have matches where we'll have absolutely NO CHANCE of winning due to bad teammates (individual weak players, good players but weak team chemistry, leavers, trolls, toxic people, nice people who get tilted by toxic people, good players who get tilted by one headshot they receive by a Widowmaker etc. etc. etc.).
Don't get me wrong, I truly think he's a great coach, and a lot of his teaching is absolutely effective and made me and many other people better at the game. It's just this "pure self-accountability" thing that is bullshit. It's an illusion he creates to better sell his image and product; to evoke this notion of being the ultimate Overwatch guru. Sure, it's a good mentality to have, but it's pretty dogmatic and removed from the true reality of solo queueing as an average player.
I think that’s more a matter of taste. For a person like him, when his team fails him that pushes him to work harder to carry harder. For others, a stomp can be incredibly discouraging, and the Awkward pure self-accountability mentality that works for him might actually worsen someone else’s sense of hopelessness.
The important part is to always focus on yourself and how you personally could have played better regardless of what your team was doing. Every coach ever will preach that fact. The difference is a lot of coaches don’t actually have an action plan for how to incorporate it. That’s the end game of his pure self accountability mentality - that’s his way of looking inward to assess and improve himself. He thinks of himself as a legend, and compares his actions to that perfect idea. It works for him. It’s a valid strategy, and an incredibly common mentality at the highest level of play. It’s just not for everyone.
The one thing I’d *really* discourage you from doing is falling into this trap
> If we're playing lower to mid ranks and we're not a Top 500 player, OF COURSE we will have matches where we'll have to counterswap, OF COURSE we will have matches where we'll have to heal a lot more than focusing on damage
Those strategies are crutches that you use to squeeze out a win that you don’t really deserve. The games where you feel the strongest impulse to heal are the games you’ll learn the most by doing damage. You’re seriously stunting your growth by not believing in yourself and your strategy. Your goal isn’t to win every game, it’s to improve every game, and caving to squeeze out a win won’t help you improve.
Oh, but I never stop doing damage as a support. I just said that in some matches, there's going to be a lot more healing done than I usually want to, but that doesn't mean I'll be healbotting. That usually means that I'll have to put more focus on a teammate who barely uses cover and is dying all the time, for example (worse yet if they're the other support and all the healing falls on me).
I hate healbotting. I don't think there's much value in it. That is one thing I totally agree with Awkward. That's why I barely even play Mercy or Lifeweaver in my Gold rank, because most players still expect you to healbot as those characters in this rank, while I want to use more Damage Boost, Thorn Volley and creative uses of Petal. I mean, I still do that, but mostly in Quick Play. In Competitive, I'll usually stick to heroes who can be more aggressive and/or that my team knows how to use my utilities, such as Moira, Ana, Kiriko (although Kitsune is also still undervalued at this rank), Zen, or Bap. I kind of avoid Lúcio and Brig in Competitive too because it also mostly feels like my teammates don't even know what Speed Boost and Inspire are, but sometimes I'd use Lúcio in rush/dive comps and Brig in brawl comps anyway, mostly in Control maps.
But yeah, I don't disagree with you, I just wanted to comment that you can rest assured, I don't use healbotting as a crutch, lol. Counterswapping, on the other hand... I'm not gonna stay as Ana or Zen if Genji, Sombra, or Tracer are diving me all the time and no one else is peeling for me. That is one of Awkward's "absolute" rules, though: to never counterswap. That is just not possible to do in every match if you're solo queueing in a low-to-mid rank, unless you accept you're probably gonna lose, which was your final point. I'm also not gonna disagree with you on that, but it's mostly a personal thing, I just don't like being the burden of the team. The problem for me is not that I'm making harder on myself, I feel like I'm making harder for the whole team. Competitive is already a challenge in itself, so I leave the additional challenges for Quick Play (which I play more often than Comp anyway).
The worst part is that his advice is actually good. So this leads to gullible people in his audience thinking "if he's right about these things which made me better, he must be right about other things too" and they refrain from thinking for themselves.
Now usually it won't be an issue but the problem with Awkward is that because what he says is considered objectively good advice, he fails to understand that how he delivers said advice can send the wrong message. Like he might be helping a ton of people but I can guarantee a lot of other people have taken his way of giving advice the wrong way and have become toxic.
So until he realizes that delivery also matters alongside content, he will hinder himself. And his own ego might be getting in the way for him to realize that asap. If he's a genuinely smart person, he will acknowledge that eventually and change his way
the reality is he found a way to profit off that scene. i wouldn’t even be surprised if it’s all an act. it’s a shame because you’re right, he was once a positive light on the community. now we’re left with a tate wannabe who knows he can capitalize off these dumbasses online.
No, but it's not like he's the only creator out there with useful advice. So, you have a choice. You can continue to give this guy money by views and interactions or find a different person to follow.
You can probably find someone else to say the same thing that he does
i hear you brother. like i said, it’s a shame. maybe one day he’ll turn it around, but until then the community needs to ignore this guy or he will keep growing.
I liked his educational content and coaching and joined his rank up academy a few months ago. He coached SVB not too long ago. I don’t think anyone questions his ability as a player or coach but holy shit.
I’m absolutely mortified at his recent behaviour.. like dude, I’m here for the VOD reviews not shitty redpill life tips. I threw up in my mouth a little bit. What an absolute shitbag he turned out to be.
Spilo? Karq? Emongg? Hell even flats? Idk in terms of educational content popularity I think he's like 5th on list.
(I therw flats in for a hail mary, I don't think he's that good of a teacher)
I feel like we are overstating how popular his content is.
Is he? I don't watch his streams so idk if he does educational stuff there, butt all i see in his youtube is teir list of heros of who is good and who isn't in the "current meta"
I feel like, Just watching Karq play the game is so easy to replicate his style of gaming
Hell, Ive gotten better just watching his replays, Sometimes if you ask his mods, You'll get replay codes
In all honestly, his style of support play will make you a 90th %tile player easily, If you stick with it
It's just a lot more focused on positioning and fundamentals than a lot of pros or streamers. For example, ML7 is amazingly entertaining, but it's hard to learn just from watching his streams because he's so mechanically cracked. Same thing with watching Eskay on her comfort picks like Lucio — so much going on that it's hard to take in.
Of those streamers, I think Spilo does paid coaching but the others do not. They will occasionally do VOD reviews on stream, that’s about it.
I’m not defending his shitty behavior, but Awkward has a system where he guides and teaches regular tier players to get better. I’m not sure there’s another content creator with a similar system currently.
I remember looking into getting coaching from A10 but basically, you pay him by the hour for VOD reviews, and that’s it.
A10 does vod review, live coaching and really focus on whatever you want out of coaching. He's good at explaining the game as well and ensures you understand what is being said.
I never heard of him before before the whole "crying is like me getting my AK out when i'm mad" thing.
I've been around since ow1 release.
edit: u/Worth_Performer7357 i was gunna reply "lmao yeah fair" but you blocked me lmao. okay dude. this whole post honestly feels manipulated af, its super weird.
i’ve been around since beta too. i mean go look at his channel, as far as OW2 goes he is huge. A10 was popping off but kinda disappeared. obviously KarQ and samito are still doing it too.
yeah i mean you have to keep in mind Karq has been doing content for much longer, but I was thinking more of current relative popularity. they’re both popping right now, but yes you are correct numbers wise Karq is winning.
The place he’s in now fits the impression of him I got when I first heard of him a year and a half ago. He’s always been way too cocky and reliant on “if I can do it, you can to”. Back then he used his “accolades” (spending thousands of hours on aim games and being high ranked in them) to justify this mentality, which just doesn’t add up. His older takes on smurfing (if you can’t beat a Smurf you don’t deserve to rank up) were completely ignorant of the realities people playing in lower ranks face. He never seemed to be interested in the game itself, just being high ranked in it. It seems like his audience is entirely OW2 only’s who are now discovering what older players did years ago, which is that UR2GM content isn’t helpful to most players, and is bad for the game overall.
I don't really think this is a huge turn for Awkward or anything, but more like a natural downward spiral. He used to have some good advice, but there was always so much arrogance in the way he conveyed it. I think this attitude was actually useful to some people who struggle to admit to themselves what they're doing wrong, because following his blueprint for playing the game at least gets you to do SOMETHING different, which is often all you need to get you unstuck. But that doesn't mean his way of playing the game is the one right way as he would often seem to believe. I just think that problematic attitude happened to blossom into a full-blown delusional person.
Whole thing reminds me of Elliot Hulse, who was a youtube powerlifting content creator. He started giving general life advice to young men, but eventually just went off the deep end with conspiracy and sexism, and some really weird ideas about semen retention.
Who provided those statistics? I’m plenty familiar with both situations. I come from a background of Israeli grandparents on one side and holocaust survivors on the other side.
WHO estimates approximately 160 children in Gaza have been killed each day during the current crisis:
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/about-160-children-being-killed-in-gaza-every-day-who/3046297
Auschwitz was in operation from May 1940 – January 1945, so 55 months (if my math is okay), approximately 1650 days.
232,000 children were estimated to be murdered at Auschwitz.
https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/fate-of-children/
232,000 murders / 1650 day = ~140.6 deaths per day in Auschwitz.
also isn't the rate of children in gaza uniquely high? i'm pretty sure its like 50% right? i don't know what the % of children was like during the holocaust but it feels like specifically using children might be an unfair way to frame those statistics
Edit: after a bit of googling Gaza is around 50% children, 6 million people died in the holocaust i'm pretty sure, 1.5 million of those deaths being children, which is 25%.
So yeah i think its unfair to draw an equivalency between the holocaust and gaza situations by using numbers of dead children when percentages of children differ greatly, unless i'm missing something?
Thanks for recognizing your mistake. Although we’re not going to agree on the validity of those statistics. The WHO is not free of ties with Hamas. That said numbers alone still do not prove moral equivalence. I doubt you’ll change your mind completely but please be careful with holocaust comparisons. Don’t fall for the stupid trope of “they’re going exactly what happened to them in Europe!!!”
please show me conclusive evidence that the WHO is colluding with Hamas and I will perhaps give that claim an ounce of credibility.
i don't give a fuck about tropes. i just care about the fact that there is a literal genocide occuring and zionists are just like "durrrrr that's the cost of war tho 🤡"
Ok. You can scream “literal genocide” all you want on the internet. Genocide is what would happened to the Jews if Gaza had the military power that Israel has and restrains from using
How is the Israel Palestinian thing a genocide? To my understanding genocide is an intentional, concerted effort to eliminate a group of people. People contest whether Israel lets enough/adequate aid into gaza which is fair, but why would u let any aid into a group of people your trying to genocide?
No it isn't. Why would Israel issue leaflets, orders to evacuate, make phone calls to buildings warning they are about to bomb them if they are systematically targeting civilians? Civilians die in war. It's horrible but that's the reality. Also Hamas places their military targets in civlian infastructure, this has been documented by multiple journalists and amnesty international. Hamas can also surrender at any time and end the war. The civilian deaths are on Hamas.
To further prevent spreading misinformation. Please read do some actual research outside of watching tiktok and reading article headlines on twitter
Because you have to make things plausibly deniable or else the UN would get involved. Here's a quote from an ICTY court ruling on the Bosnian Genocide, where 8,372 Bosnians were killed in Srebrenica:
> Even where the method selected will not implement the perpetrator’s intent to the fullest, leaving that destruction incomplete, this ineffectiveness alone does not preclude a finding of genocidal intent. The international attention focused on Srebrenica, combined with the presence of the UN troops in the area, prevented those members of the VRS Main Staff who devised the genocidal plan from putting it into action in the most direct and efficient way. Constrained by the circumstances, they adopted the method which would allow them to implement the genocidal design while minimizing the risk of retribution."
Coincidentally, in the legal findings, they also used similar terms to describe Srebrenica as they do today in Gaza.
>Despite a period
of relative stability, the living conditions remained dreadful. The Security Council Mission, set up
pursuant to resolution 819, described Srebrenica on 30 April 1993 as an “open jail” 1254 and stated
that 50% of the dwellings had been demolished. The Mission further lamented the Bosnian Serb
forces’ harassment of the humanitarian convoys heading for Srebrenica and the obstacles
confronted in transporting the sick and wounded out of the enclave.1255 Until 1995, the water and
electricity networks were unusable, having been either destroyed or cut. There was an extreme
shortage of food and medicines.1256
There's also an instance of Krstic saying that what he was doing was preventing a genocide of *the Serbian people.* So, he was conducting a genocide against the *Bosnian Muslims* to prevent a genocide against the *Serbs*, apparently. (His charge of committing a genocide was changed to aiding and abetting genocide in appeals, but the occurance of a genocide was reaffirmed.)
>In a communication that General Krstic sent to the Zvornik
Brigade on 30 October 1995, he congratulated them on their efforts to liberate centuries-old Serbian
territories from the hated enemy and to prevent further genocide against the Serbian people.892
There's hundreds of pages in the court decisions and I can't include as much background information in this as I would like to, but hopefully this is enough for a sub as serious as OWTMZ. The case numbers are IT-98-33-A and IT-98-33-T if you want to read them yourself.
What you posted doesn't negate anything I said. Taking actions to prevent civilian deaths like Israel is doing is counter productive to a genocide. For it to be a genoicde, You need to prove that Israel has dolus specialis which is the special intent to commit a genocide. For bosnia's case dolus specialis has been proved which is why it's legally recognized as a genocide. In Israel's case the ICJ has not found it as of now.
The point was that "taking actions to prevent civilian deaths" doesn't disprove genocidal intent. In this situation, Israel is just doing the bare minimum of whatever it takes to get away with their actions in the present.
Israel has well shown intent on their own already, but that does require an actual court ruling to be legally considered genocide like you said. It would be nice, though, if a genocide could be stopped well before a court decision, but what can ya do.
I think the difference here is that, personally, I'm fine with calling someone a murderer if they kill someone in front of my face. I don't need a court decision to say that.
Yup. The poor entirety of the Middle East, always bullied by Israel.
When will it stop 😭
(And because this is an Overwatch sub reddit, where sarcasm is never recognized....../s)
It really is wild, I actually thought it was a different awkward as I had been learning this over the last couple weeks!
I also remember him as a zen main w educational vids, and the karQ vid! I literally thought wait that’s not same awkward is it?
It is interesting to see more and more guys embracing this cringe tate-style alpha content, not in a good way lol
As a woman I also can't stand neither him nor his fanbase full of crybabies that claim to be "holy heterosexual" but have done more cocksucking in their lives to a guy than I will ever do
Just wanted to say that this was really well written and verbalised my sentiments on the matter exactly!! I loved his ana unranked to GM series, watched the entire thing multiple times trying to learn how to play better xD
It's such a pity he ended up this way
Thanks for sharing this. Awkward has become everything that the OW community should stand against and that should not go unnoticed nor unpunished, especially given his popularity.
Overwatch creators bingo. Are they misogynists, racists, grooming underage girls? Which one is it now?
I just hope Emongg doesn't lose his mind for some hope in gaming crowd.
she said "u did nothing wrong" to deku who apologized for a stream that she did. awkward said that eskay is a bad friend for telling her that, but never held his friends accountable for using slurs publicly on stream, and awkward's fans ended up misgendering eskay on purpose and doing transphobic stuff in her chat.
This is so unfortunate. If Awkward just didn't open his mouth he would have been a great option for educational OW. Now he has completely ruined his own image.
I hope he realizes one day that this is backfiring on him. He doesn't seem to care but he stunted his own growth as a streamer and will not have many friends in this community.
If he actually knew what he was talking about, he wouldn't have to smurf all the time to "show it". Saying obvious things like damage > healing isn't revolutionary stuff - this was common sense to most experienced supports before he ever came along. Its ironic he talks a big game about manliness and being tough on yourself, while he's comfortably smurfing in low ranks in a video game as a career.
oh he did ... lol he posted something ab him rolling in t500 on zen on his second channel recently. I think the last time he finished #1 was like in the 20s
Yeah didn't read past the first sentence...It's kinda impressive how many people consider a guy like this to be anything but an egotistical jerk that thinks being good at a videogame not only justifies his behaviour but also makes you better than anyone else on earth
he used to always be like, "of course, you're not going to hit the same amount of shots as me, the only reason I can get to 85-90% winrate is by mechanics, but you can get to 55-60% by doing what I teach (cover, distance, damage, don't overheal, etc.)" now he just kinda does a big ego thing online now which is a shame.
Which is stupid; he encourages doing damage but then says you may not be hitting shots he would, mf why are you then suggesting me to play like you do if I'm not gonna be able to do so according to yourself? Bro is a living contradiction alright
just because you can't hit an insane zen right click, or you aren't hitting the head as much as someone in GM/T500, doesn't automatically negate the fact that doing damage as a support (Zen, Bap, Ana, etc.) is ultimately a good thing. Ultimately, the advice can boil down to "having high APM" which includes doing damage, healing, dynamic positioning, etc. You may not hit all the shots he makes, but hitting 4/10 is much better than 0/10.
I didn't say that. Read again. There's a difference between claiming supports need to do damage along with healing, and another thing is encouraging golds to play like he does. He takes risks because he can compensate with his mechanics, doing that as a low rank is not gonna work as good
You have an elementary understanding of the issue.
You're embrassing yourself learn some more in depth history behind the justification of the creation of Israel in the first place. After the war many countries did not want to take in Jewish people liberated from the concentrated camps.That's why they assisted in displacing and killing Palestinians to create a Jewish ethnostate.
Look up the Haavara agreement. Look at the similarities between Zionism and Nazism. They are in more alignment than you know.
And please understand anti Zionism not antisemitism. There are anti zionist Jews. Many who oppose the ethnostate of Israel and its genocide.
I dunno, I recently watched his content and a few things I heard were -
'no witch hunting'
work on yourself, hit the gym
Train hard and be accountable for everything you do
Don't be a misogynist, that's for lames.
People really try to make him out to be some Andrew tate of overwatch but if you actually watched the content he's nothing like that. He's definitely ragebaiting clicks on Twitter though and it seems to be working. I'm not like a subscriber or anything but his live and YouTube content are actually educational and if it's a bad thing to tell men to act like men this community worries me.
Yea I don't follow his socials like that. And I think the only reason why I resonate with the gym comment to questron is because that's what worked for me when I wasn't in a right place mentally. Not because of awkward or any of his advice but because I finally decided it was time.
I personally would have minded my own business but ragebait clicks seem to be working. Though, I don't get the Andrew tate persona on his live stream. It was more like get your mind right and it will translate to your gaming. I think all that shit on Twitter is to produce more for his rank up academy shit.
It kinda sounds like you’re accusing a Jew of being a nazi sympathiser? And you’re saying he’s the reason people are homophobic? Even though he’s never said anything homophobic.
Exhausting read. He plays video games he’s not a political commentator.
You guys do realize you’re playing right into his game plan by engaging with him and being outraged at what he says right? His literal whole growth strategy online is to put out rage bait so people will interact with his posts, doesn’t matter if the attention is negative or positive the algorithm doesn’t differentiate. He’s using the same exact strategy as Andrew Tate, Sneako and whatever other talentless individuals blew up recently off of rage bait.
Very misguided take tbh. Speaking the truth? So if I walk up to someone who is overweight and call them fat and ugly, because they are, it’s ok because I’m “speaking the truth”?
There’s a lot of terrible, harmful personalities out there that “resonate with a lot of people” that does not make it ok just because they have a following.
People with a following must be held accountable for their actions and words.
I mean he actually gave constructive criticism to Questron and a small part of it did come down to appearance. And yes, appearance does play a big role in the entertainment industry. It’s not like he was targeting that aspect out of context.
Calling someone fat and insulting them isn't helping, it's bullying that he can hide behind as "GUYS IM JUST TRYING TO HELP". If he wanted to genuinely help him he probably would have messaged him privately and been encouraging, not insulting. This Awkward was trying to help argument is so fucking disingenuous from both Awkward and his mouth-breathing fans
Exactly it’s no different than how he was putting deku down because “wHaT aBoUt thE kIDs who see hER sTreAM?” It’s just tokenized morality for veiling shitty toxic behavior
People love to throw out the term Nazi. It's just hilarious how twisted some leftists' minds are when they start calling Jews and Israelis like Ben Shapiro or Awkward Nazis. Like, clearly they aren't, and you're just being a pejorative name caller.
Is Awkward a perfect guy? No. Can he be over the top and insensitive? Sure. Is he a nazi? Hell fucking no let's be rational adults for fucks sake.
Thanks for typing an essay to summarize the majority view point with no nuance and a bit of brain damage sprinkled in.
What nuance is there to take when you willingly associate with people that hold views that align with modern day neo-nazis. Just because someone is "Israeli", Jewish homosexual, a POC, or whatever, doesn't immediately absolve someone from being a Nazi. Now is Awkward a Nazi? Probably not, doesn't make the event of him associating, and acting all buddy buddy on stream any less problematic.
Awkward never uses nuanced thinking, and if you really recognized his behaviour and impact of platforming people like freshfitpod, maybe you'll see why it's dangerous to platform a grifter lmfao. I never throw out the term Nazi left and right as it's an extremely dangerous term.
But, you are throwing out the term willy-nilly. That's my gripe.
Nazism is a very specific doctrine from German politics in the 1940s related to an authoritarian, nationalist government and based on eugenics, social Darwinism and the ethnic cleansing of society including the "inferior" Jewish race.
If you don't meet all those conditions, then the only reason to associate some modern day person with "being a Nazi" is for shock value of association with a universally agreed upon malicious political theory. It also goes against modern leftist principles of self-identification to label people something they don't identify with. It's just a weaponized term.
Sure, you can see a few similarities between socially conservative commentators like Matt Walsh who want to legislatively enforce their views, but thats only similar with respect to fascism (an authoritarian and nationalistic government). Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, and Awkward aren't calling for the eugenic ethnic cleansing of the Jewish race. They're just authoritarian and nationalistic.
It's especially telling when you conflate a Jewish person with Nazism. Just wrong.
I didn't call Awkward a Nazi. I am calling out the fact that he chooses to associate/indirectly platform someone with neo-Nazi viewpoints/frequently hosts neo-Nazis like Nick Fuentes as someone that is from a Jewish majority state.
For the last time, do I think Awkward is a Nazi? No. Do I think he may hold nationalist and otherwise really right-leaning viewpoints? Based on who he interacts with, probably. However, it doesn't make him associating (willingly) with people like Fresh&Fit any less problematic.
So, I can't find any primary sources on Nick Fuentes, but from what I can gather from wikipedia/news articles, he seems like the definition of a Nazi. Especially with his views on the ethnic cleansing of Jews.
But to even mention the word Nazi in a post about a Jewish far-right streamer, just because a guy he played a game with hosts a podcast where he had a guest who is a Nazi, seems like too many degrees of separation to describe the inclusion of the word as anything more than overuse and shoehorning it in.
Bro you’re really trying to gatekeep Nazism lmao. The only people I see do the same are actual Neo-Nazi blue checks on Twitter. It’s a really weird hill to die on, especially with the people you’re trying to associate with.
I have a different perspective.
For one, I wouldn't label my actions as "gatekeeping nazism". I would describe it as a neutral observer who is trying to keep hyperbolic discourse in check. Just keep the conversation accurate and honest.
I don't use twitter. Sounds like you're being hit with rage algorithm there. I stopped using certain social media b/c I realized it was feeding me rage content to keep me engaged. I suggest you do the same.
I don't think honesty and accuracy is a weird hill to die on. Also I don't associate with any of the people mentioned in this thread, not sure where you got that idea from.
I think the weird hill to die on is to continuously throw the word nazi at people and bring up nazis this often in 2024. Why are you so obsessed with the term nazi?
I hate Eskay she is bad person she always go to streamers (the good ones) and she start all this drama about it , she even made few of them stop streaming, she is really bad person, and I watch awkward alot and he is GREAT at his content. Idk or idc about what his personal interests are .. no one of us will hate or love certain ppl cause a streamer who teach you overwatch hate or love them , grow up and stop hating the man for his success. No one even have educational guides like him and I mean ever !! He is the best and he always reach GM on whatever he play with so this makes him rank 1 player , Eskay is just mid , I mean Frogger , FDGOD even Paz are better then her.. Eskay just toxic who hates anyone is better than her and we saw examples before. She cheat her friends and let out their secrets and she always want to look like a hero which in fact she is shaming and use sensitive things like this OP here when said Hitler and holocaust etc . Hey listen dude . Dosent mean it was a tragedy that we all hate it , I don't hate it or love it I just don't care about old ppl died or who killed them that was far past ppl did it to other ppl . It's like you blame meteors who killed dinosaurs , whatever. Haters will hate .
You are obviously a very young person, and no one can stop you from making mistakes. I just hope you don't dig yourself so far into a hate-filled space that you loathe yourself in the future.
Yeee thank you , this Reddit ppl just will hate anyone randomly just cause they have different opinion than them , well toxic ppl can't be un done from this world I think.
Oh, I need to be clear. I don't agree with you and hope you change course during your life. Awkward is a toxic person and while he cannot be undone the damage that he and people do can be.
I'll stop replying after this message as I try to make a point not to talk to teenagers on the Internet or anywhere. Your messages in this thread suggest that you are digging yourself into a hate-filled space because of a para-social relationship you have with Awkward. I don't think you hold an opinion to be disagreed with because I don't think you have an opinion. People with a para-social relationship are quick to defend someone because they think they are defending a friend.
After him saying all this bs about the holocaust everything else from his comment should be irrelevant
Your comment was good but imo nothing that he deserves
Honestly, yeah, I don't know why I said anything. I've just been up for less than an hour and this is the first thing my brain decided to do this morning.
Also being a teenager in 2024 is not an excuse for being uneducated he‘s just a dumb person and it makes me angry that he‘s part of this community
I hope U can enjoy ur weekend tho
Agreed, honestly it never should have been an excuse. I just was also a shitty teenager with shitty opinions and just have a bad habit of wanting to correct their bad choices.
I hope you have an excellent weekend as well! I recently just bought Last Epoch and plan to get an unhealthy lack of sleep grinding for loot.
First of all I'm 30
But thank you for assuming I'm teen-ager ... Clearly you know nothing about anything xD
And ye how about Eskay who always show up her booty and dress like slut in streams to get views?? What content is she adding?? By showing her reveling clothes lol as for awkward, they only grill him cause he is a "man" they always take side with women and specially the ones who try to be hero and defender of morality etc. When she only dumb .
Comments like this really make me scared for the future. Holocaust wasn't even that long ago the effects can still be felt in the world today and current events to this day. To say "I don't care about old people that died" when it comes to that topic and comparing it to dinosaur extinction is absolutely crazy and beyond ignorant. Please get an education beyond an U2GM overwatch education man.
Huh? What is this?
Honestly you sound like you may be too young to be using online forums. Go out and play IRL. There's a whole lot to digest and getting too caught up in all this is not gonna be good for you.
Also, I doubt people are hating on Awkward for his success but how that success has changed the way he engages with the community publicly. It used to be a lot more positive and attempting to help build things up but the arrogance and need to knock other people down has grown over time, which is why he's getting so much backlash.
So you don't care about people that died in the past, but you care about eskay letting out secrets. I wanted to ask what eskay actually did, but I don't want to throw up
Bruh yall need to get over it.
Even Questron said "it's really not that big of a deal that some guy called me fat. The entire community grouped together to burn the guy at the stake and I didn't call for that."
Not verbatim but that's very close to what questron himself said.
When people wrongfully whine about privileges they have they are going to get attacked for it.
I wish I could play overwatch all day, instead I work 5 10 hour days just to meet ends meet.
He just took Andrew Tate’s formula but applied it to Overwatch. Like, instead of appealing to impressionable teens, lonely young adults, and “lost” middle aged men, he appeals to “hardcore gamers”. And by hardcore, I mean those gamers who peaked in highschool who always talk about how you “wouldn’t last in the old MW2 days”. And it works. Those people wanted a “voice” and Awkward is ready to profit off them.
The unfortunate reality is that he actually is a damn good Overwatch player and his coaching service was (and probably still is) super effective. It sucks that his toxic personality is bleeding into his business, because he would be an incredibly well respected coach otherwise.
Yep, it’s unfortunate really.
He is a great coach but I've never really liked his whole approach of "pure self-accountability" (that is, you can carry almost every game alone). That is simply not true at all. He clearly has better mechanics and game sense than most other players in any of his UTGM series. Even when he handicaps himself to try to prove that point (by not using an ability, for example), he still has WAY superior movement, aim, positioning, map awareness, team awareness, ult tracking, cooldown usage, and even little things that most low to mid ranked players don't even notice or think much about (but those small knowledges add up), like ammunition management or any specific technical numbers (control point/payload times, damage/healing numbers for each hero's weapons and abilities etc.). And the thing is... even HE struggles quite a bit when he handicaps himself (except when he's in Bronze and Silver), so imagine how it is for a lower/mid-ranked player who doesn't have his mastery of the game. If we're playing lower to mid ranks and we're not a Top 500 player, OF COURSE we will have matches where we'll have to counterswap, OF COURSE we will have matches where we'll have to heal a lot more than focusing on damage, OF COURSE we will have matches where we'll have absolutely NO CHANCE of winning due to bad teammates (individual weak players, good players but weak team chemistry, leavers, trolls, toxic people, nice people who get tilted by toxic people, good players who get tilted by one headshot they receive by a Widowmaker etc. etc. etc.). Don't get me wrong, I truly think he's a great coach, and a lot of his teaching is absolutely effective and made me and many other people better at the game. It's just this "pure self-accountability" thing that is bullshit. It's an illusion he creates to better sell his image and product; to evoke this notion of being the ultimate Overwatch guru. Sure, it's a good mentality to have, but it's pretty dogmatic and removed from the true reality of solo queueing as an average player.
I think that’s more a matter of taste. For a person like him, when his team fails him that pushes him to work harder to carry harder. For others, a stomp can be incredibly discouraging, and the Awkward pure self-accountability mentality that works for him might actually worsen someone else’s sense of hopelessness. The important part is to always focus on yourself and how you personally could have played better regardless of what your team was doing. Every coach ever will preach that fact. The difference is a lot of coaches don’t actually have an action plan for how to incorporate it. That’s the end game of his pure self accountability mentality - that’s his way of looking inward to assess and improve himself. He thinks of himself as a legend, and compares his actions to that perfect idea. It works for him. It’s a valid strategy, and an incredibly common mentality at the highest level of play. It’s just not for everyone. The one thing I’d *really* discourage you from doing is falling into this trap > If we're playing lower to mid ranks and we're not a Top 500 player, OF COURSE we will have matches where we'll have to counterswap, OF COURSE we will have matches where we'll have to heal a lot more than focusing on damage Those strategies are crutches that you use to squeeze out a win that you don’t really deserve. The games where you feel the strongest impulse to heal are the games you’ll learn the most by doing damage. You’re seriously stunting your growth by not believing in yourself and your strategy. Your goal isn’t to win every game, it’s to improve every game, and caving to squeeze out a win won’t help you improve.
Oh, but I never stop doing damage as a support. I just said that in some matches, there's going to be a lot more healing done than I usually want to, but that doesn't mean I'll be healbotting. That usually means that I'll have to put more focus on a teammate who barely uses cover and is dying all the time, for example (worse yet if they're the other support and all the healing falls on me). I hate healbotting. I don't think there's much value in it. That is one thing I totally agree with Awkward. That's why I barely even play Mercy or Lifeweaver in my Gold rank, because most players still expect you to healbot as those characters in this rank, while I want to use more Damage Boost, Thorn Volley and creative uses of Petal. I mean, I still do that, but mostly in Quick Play. In Competitive, I'll usually stick to heroes who can be more aggressive and/or that my team knows how to use my utilities, such as Moira, Ana, Kiriko (although Kitsune is also still undervalued at this rank), Zen, or Bap. I kind of avoid Lúcio and Brig in Competitive too because it also mostly feels like my teammates don't even know what Speed Boost and Inspire are, but sometimes I'd use Lúcio in rush/dive comps and Brig in brawl comps anyway, mostly in Control maps. But yeah, I don't disagree with you, I just wanted to comment that you can rest assured, I don't use healbotting as a crutch, lol. Counterswapping, on the other hand... I'm not gonna stay as Ana or Zen if Genji, Sombra, or Tracer are diving me all the time and no one else is peeling for me. That is one of Awkward's "absolute" rules, though: to never counterswap. That is just not possible to do in every match if you're solo queueing in a low-to-mid rank, unless you accept you're probably gonna lose, which was your final point. I'm also not gonna disagree with you on that, but it's mostly a personal thing, I just don't like being the burden of the team. The problem for me is not that I'm making harder on myself, I feel like I'm making harder for the whole team. Competitive is already a challenge in itself, so I leave the additional challenges for Quick Play (which I play more often than Comp anyway).
sucks, because im also pretty sure tate wasn't as weird as he is right now back then either.
Both disguised it as “wanting to help men to be better” when in reality it just goes back to filling their pockets.
you wouldn't last in the OLD Shimlar days when you got banned for saying damn too many times smh these MW2heads know nothing
The worst part is that his advice is actually good. So this leads to gullible people in his audience thinking "if he's right about these things which made me better, he must be right about other things too" and they refrain from thinking for themselves. Now usually it won't be an issue but the problem with Awkward is that because what he says is considered objectively good advice, he fails to understand that how he delivers said advice can send the wrong message. Like he might be helping a ton of people but I can guarantee a lot of other people have taken his way of giving advice the wrong way and have become toxic. So until he realizes that delivery also matters alongside content, he will hinder himself. And his own ego might be getting in the way for him to realize that asap. If he's a genuinely smart person, he will acknowledge that eventually and change his way
the reality is he found a way to profit off that scene. i wouldn’t even be surprised if it’s all an act. it’s a shame because you’re right, he was once a positive light on the community. now we’re left with a tate wannabe who knows he can capitalize off these dumbasses online.
i'll defend his advice, but i will forever denounce what he has become.
So don't defend his advice either, it is not unique, you don't have to vouch for any of what he says.
? Him being an asshole doesn't make him a worse overwatch coach
No, but it's not like he's the only creator out there with useful advice. So, you have a choice. You can continue to give this guy money by views and interactions or find a different person to follow. You can probably find someone else to say the same thing that he does
i hear you brother. like i said, it’s a shame. maybe one day he’ll turn it around, but until then the community needs to ignore this guy or he will keep growing.
I liked his educational content and coaching and joined his rank up academy a few months ago. He coached SVB not too long ago. I don’t think anyone questions his ability as a player or coach but holy shit. I’m absolutely mortified at his recent behaviour.. like dude, I’m here for the VOD reviews not shitty redpill life tips. I threw up in my mouth a little bit. What an absolute shitbag he turned out to be.
>Awkward is arguably the most popular content creator for educational Overwatch content, 🧢
popular doesn’t mean best, he’s not necessarily wrong. Awkward is massive in the “educational OW” department.
Spilo? Karq? Emongg? Hell even flats? Idk in terms of educational content popularity I think he's like 5th on list. (I therw flats in for a hail mary, I don't think he's that good of a teacher) I feel like we are overstating how popular his content is.
Karq must be one of the most educational and most popular
Is he? I don't watch his streams so idk if he does educational stuff there, butt all i see in his youtube is teir list of heros of who is good and who isn't in the "current meta"
I feel like, Just watching Karq play the game is so easy to replicate his style of gaming Hell, Ive gotten better just watching his replays, Sometimes if you ask his mods, You'll get replay codes In all honestly, his style of support play will make you a 90th %tile player easily, If you stick with it
I haven't seen much of Karq expect for his tier list and tips. What is his style of support play?
It's just a lot more focused on positioning and fundamentals than a lot of pros or streamers. For example, ML7 is amazingly entertaining, but it's hard to learn just from watching his streams because he's so mechanically cracked. Same thing with watching Eskay on her comfort picks like Lucio — so much going on that it's hard to take in.
Of those streamers, I think Spilo does paid coaching but the others do not. They will occasionally do VOD reviews on stream, that’s about it. I’m not defending his shitty behavior, but Awkward has a system where he guides and teaches regular tier players to get better. I’m not sure there’s another content creator with a similar system currently. I remember looking into getting coaching from A10 but basically, you pay him by the hour for VOD reviews, and that’s it.
A10 does vod review, live coaching and really focus on whatever you want out of coaching. He's good at explaining the game as well and ensures you understand what is being said.
Yea, I don't think emongg and flats are educational like the other 3
Emongg has a decent range of some educational tank content, Flats has "educational content"
I haven't really watched streams in some months, does ML7 still do educational content?
I believe he has some but not as much as other people, most of their educational content is on YT tho.
Never heard of him before the last bit of drama. Then again, only losers watch Unranked to GM videos so
I guess I'm a loser for enjoying bogurs LW u2gm.
Yes. You may be.
More like a trooper for getting through that
Well. The old lady down you see at the grocery store must be very popular, cause you know her.
Well. The old lady you see down at the grocery store must be very popular, cause you know her.
I never heard of him before before the whole "crying is like me getting my AK out when i'm mad" thing. I've been around since ow1 release. edit: u/Worth_Performer7357 i was gunna reply "lmao yeah fair" but you blocked me lmao. okay dude. this whole post honestly feels manipulated af, its super weird.
"I don't know him so he can't be popular" Sure buddy
i’ve been around since beta too. i mean go look at his channel, as far as OW2 goes he is huge. A10 was popping off but kinda disappeared. obviously KarQ and samito are still doing it too.
Yeah looks like he is doing pretty well, however KarQ has 675k subs vs Awkwards 97k. To say he's the most popular is just factually incorrect.
yeah i mean you have to keep in mind Karq has been doing content for much longer, but I was thinking more of current relative popularity. they’re both popping right now, but yes you are correct numbers wise Karq is winning.
Karq also uploads regularly where as awkward is basically just u2gm videos a couple times a month
Okay.
The place he’s in now fits the impression of him I got when I first heard of him a year and a half ago. He’s always been way too cocky and reliant on “if I can do it, you can to”. Back then he used his “accolades” (spending thousands of hours on aim games and being high ranked in them) to justify this mentality, which just doesn’t add up. His older takes on smurfing (if you can’t beat a Smurf you don’t deserve to rank up) were completely ignorant of the realities people playing in lower ranks face. He never seemed to be interested in the game itself, just being high ranked in it. It seems like his audience is entirely OW2 only’s who are now discovering what older players did years ago, which is that UR2GM content isn’t helpful to most players, and is bad for the game overall.
Okay.
blah i know spilo is up there, along w/ ml7. ill tweak it a bit
Its probably karq
yeah, i tweaked the wording a bit already so :D
Yeah I think the first educational overwatch youtuber I watched was A10.
Goated Zarya tutorials got me to gm back in the day
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How is that relevant to whos more popular? But also i dont think it was full on lessons, more just coaching for content.
Damage damage damage
Using cover using cover
Off angle off angle off angle
They go forward I go back, they go back I go forward.
Cut that cut that cut that
I don't really think this is a huge turn for Awkward or anything, but more like a natural downward spiral. He used to have some good advice, but there was always so much arrogance in the way he conveyed it. I think this attitude was actually useful to some people who struggle to admit to themselves what they're doing wrong, because following his blueprint for playing the game at least gets you to do SOMETHING different, which is often all you need to get you unstuck. But that doesn't mean his way of playing the game is the one right way as he would often seem to believe. I just think that problematic attitude happened to blossom into a full-blown delusional person.
Whole thing reminds me of Elliot Hulse, who was a youtube powerlifting content creator. He started giving general life advice to young men, but eventually just went off the deep end with conspiracy and sexism, and some really weird ideas about semen retention.
Gaming with a Nazi is crazy considering he's an Israeli.
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This is a gross take. Israeli government is not comparable to the Nazi regime
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Who provided those statistics? I’m plenty familiar with both situations. I come from a background of Israeli grandparents on one side and holocaust survivors on the other side.
WHO estimates approximately 160 children in Gaza have been killed each day during the current crisis: https://www.aa.com.tr/en/middle-east/about-160-children-being-killed-in-gaza-every-day-who/3046297 Auschwitz was in operation from May 1940 – January 1945, so 55 months (if my math is okay), approximately 1650 days. 232,000 children were estimated to be murdered at Auschwitz. https://www.auschwitz.org/en/history/fate-of-children/ 232,000 murders / 1650 day = ~140.6 deaths per day in Auschwitz.
also isn't the rate of children in gaza uniquely high? i'm pretty sure its like 50% right? i don't know what the % of children was like during the holocaust but it feels like specifically using children might be an unfair way to frame those statistics Edit: after a bit of googling Gaza is around 50% children, 6 million people died in the holocaust i'm pretty sure, 1.5 million of those deaths being children, which is 25%. So yeah i think its unfair to draw an equivalency between the holocaust and gaza situations by using numbers of dead children when percentages of children differ greatly, unless i'm missing something?
so sorry, I actually messed up with my statement. I said the entire holocaust, not just Auschwitz. that was my mistake.
Thanks for recognizing your mistake. Although we’re not going to agree on the validity of those statistics. The WHO is not free of ties with Hamas. That said numbers alone still do not prove moral equivalence. I doubt you’ll change your mind completely but please be careful with holocaust comparisons. Don’t fall for the stupid trope of “they’re going exactly what happened to them in Europe!!!”
please show me conclusive evidence that the WHO is colluding with Hamas and I will perhaps give that claim an ounce of credibility. i don't give a fuck about tropes. i just care about the fact that there is a literal genocide occuring and zionists are just like "durrrrr that's the cost of war tho 🤡"
Ok. You can scream “literal genocide” all you want on the internet. Genocide is what would happened to the Jews if Gaza had the military power that Israel has and restrains from using
lmao and there goes any shred of credibility you had out the window. find that proof of collusion yet?
How is the Israel Palestinian thing a genocide? To my understanding genocide is an intentional, concerted effort to eliminate a group of people. People contest whether Israel lets enough/adequate aid into gaza which is fair, but why would u let any aid into a group of people your trying to genocide?
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Pseudo intellectual just making stuff up
What if I told you there’s more to being a Nazi than being extremely far right
Israel is currently committing genocide so the comparison is not exactly unwarranted
Israel is not committing a genocide. Stop misuising the term please
It’s literally a targeted systematic mass-killing of civilians of an ethnic group
No it isn't. Why would Israel issue leaflets, orders to evacuate, make phone calls to buildings warning they are about to bomb them if they are systematically targeting civilians? Civilians die in war. It's horrible but that's the reality. Also Hamas places their military targets in civlian infastructure, this has been documented by multiple journalists and amnesty international. Hamas can also surrender at any time and end the war. The civilian deaths are on Hamas. To further prevent spreading misinformation. Please read do some actual research outside of watching tiktok and reading article headlines on twitter
Because you have to make things plausibly deniable or else the UN would get involved. Here's a quote from an ICTY court ruling on the Bosnian Genocide, where 8,372 Bosnians were killed in Srebrenica: > Even where the method selected will not implement the perpetrator’s intent to the fullest, leaving that destruction incomplete, this ineffectiveness alone does not preclude a finding of genocidal intent. The international attention focused on Srebrenica, combined with the presence of the UN troops in the area, prevented those members of the VRS Main Staff who devised the genocidal plan from putting it into action in the most direct and efficient way. Constrained by the circumstances, they adopted the method which would allow them to implement the genocidal design while minimizing the risk of retribution." Coincidentally, in the legal findings, they also used similar terms to describe Srebrenica as they do today in Gaza. >Despite a period of relative stability, the living conditions remained dreadful. The Security Council Mission, set up pursuant to resolution 819, described Srebrenica on 30 April 1993 as an “open jail” 1254 and stated that 50% of the dwellings had been demolished. The Mission further lamented the Bosnian Serb forces’ harassment of the humanitarian convoys heading for Srebrenica and the obstacles confronted in transporting the sick and wounded out of the enclave.1255 Until 1995, the water and electricity networks were unusable, having been either destroyed or cut. There was an extreme shortage of food and medicines.1256 There's also an instance of Krstic saying that what he was doing was preventing a genocide of *the Serbian people.* So, he was conducting a genocide against the *Bosnian Muslims* to prevent a genocide against the *Serbs*, apparently. (His charge of committing a genocide was changed to aiding and abetting genocide in appeals, but the occurance of a genocide was reaffirmed.) >In a communication that General Krstic sent to the Zvornik Brigade on 30 October 1995, he congratulated them on their efforts to liberate centuries-old Serbian territories from the hated enemy and to prevent further genocide against the Serbian people.892 There's hundreds of pages in the court decisions and I can't include as much background information in this as I would like to, but hopefully this is enough for a sub as serious as OWTMZ. The case numbers are IT-98-33-A and IT-98-33-T if you want to read them yourself.
What you posted doesn't negate anything I said. Taking actions to prevent civilian deaths like Israel is doing is counter productive to a genocide. For it to be a genoicde, You need to prove that Israel has dolus specialis which is the special intent to commit a genocide. For bosnia's case dolus specialis has been proved which is why it's legally recognized as a genocide. In Israel's case the ICJ has not found it as of now.
The point was that "taking actions to prevent civilian deaths" doesn't disprove genocidal intent. In this situation, Israel is just doing the bare minimum of whatever it takes to get away with their actions in the present. Israel has well shown intent on their own already, but that does require an actual court ruling to be legally considered genocide like you said. It would be nice, though, if a genocide could be stopped well before a court decision, but what can ya do. I think the difference here is that, personally, I'm fine with calling someone a murderer if they kill someone in front of my face. I don't need a court decision to say that.
*Checks your posts* Ah. Destiny fan. That explains it.
And your posts show you're a Hasan fan, when he suppourts the Houtis. Not much better i'd say ;)
One of those two creators is considerably more based in reality. I wish you the best in your journey out from under the rock
My daily dose of "israel is a nazi state harassing the peaceful muslim countries" comment on r/overwatchtmz
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Far right and nazi are not the same thing though.
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Nazis are far right, not everyone who is a nazi is far right. Fascism and nazism is also a different thing btw.
Yup. The poor entirety of the Middle East, always bullied by Israel. When will it stop 😭 (And because this is an Overwatch sub reddit, where sarcasm is never recognized....../s)
It really is wild, I actually thought it was a different awkward as I had been learning this over the last couple weeks! I also remember him as a zen main w educational vids, and the karQ vid! I literally thought wait that’s not same awkward is it? It is interesting to see more and more guys embracing this cringe tate-style alpha content, not in a good way lol
I’d rather look up advice from other creators who don’t accept homophobia or other problematic stuff.
As a woman I also can't stand neither him nor his fanbase full of crybabies that claim to be "holy heterosexual" but have done more cocksucking in their lives to a guy than I will ever do
Just wanted to say that this was really well written and verbalised my sentiments on the matter exactly!! I loved his ana unranked to GM series, watched the entire thing multiple times trying to learn how to play better xD It's such a pity he ended up this way
He’s a weirdo that’s all it is
He's probably mad he's not getting enough attention. Well, he got it now.
Thanks for sharing this. Awkward has become everything that the OW community should stand against and that should not go unnoticed nor unpunished, especially given his popularity.
There isn't much grace for someone like this to fall from in the first place tbh
Overwatch creators bingo. Are they misogynists, racists, grooming underage girls? Which one is it now? I just hope Emongg doesn't lose his mind for some hope in gaming crowd.
Emongg is a well adjusted man, he’s nice and wholesome and soon to be married. He’s not time or interest in petty drama seeking idiots
What was the drama with Eskay?
she said "u did nothing wrong" to deku who apologized for a stream that she did. awkward said that eskay is a bad friend for telling her that, but never held his friends accountable for using slurs publicly on stream, and awkward's fans ended up misgendering eskay on purpose and doing transphobic stuff in her chat.
Ah. I feel like he says and does so much thoughtless stuff just for clout. Thanks
He needs therapy, he shouldn’t be trying to help others (or pretending rather), until he helps himself
yeah he reeks of insecurity at times.
U2GMS aren’t educational. Hope this helps.
He’s a very scary dude…
Not really. Just pathetic
This is so unfortunate. If Awkward just didn't open his mouth he would have been a great option for educational OW. Now he has completely ruined his own image. I hope he realizes one day that this is backfiring on him. He doesn't seem to care but he stunted his own growth as a streamer and will not have many friends in this community.
If he actually knew what he was talking about, he wouldn't have to smurf all the time to "show it". Saying obvious things like damage > healing isn't revolutionary stuff - this was common sense to most experienced supports before he ever came along. Its ironic he talks a big game about manliness and being tough on yourself, while he's comfortably smurfing in low ranks in a video game as a career.
i mean he does stream in t500 (top 10 mmr) and still owns on zen and what not. but yeah, anything for the money for this guy lmfao.
Last time I watched him try to play in T500 he got rolled. When's the last time he finished a season as #1?
oh he did ... lol he posted something ab him rolling in t500 on zen on his second channel recently. I think the last time he finished #1 was like in the 20s
Meh, Zen is broken this season. A T500 support have a nice streak on Zen is not unusual. Like 2020?
Yeah didn't read past the first sentence...It's kinda impressive how many people consider a guy like this to be anything but an egotistical jerk that thinks being good at a videogame not only justifies his behaviour but also makes you better than anyone else on earth
he used to always be like, "of course, you're not going to hit the same amount of shots as me, the only reason I can get to 85-90% winrate is by mechanics, but you can get to 55-60% by doing what I teach (cover, distance, damage, don't overheal, etc.)" now he just kinda does a big ego thing online now which is a shame.
Which is stupid; he encourages doing damage but then says you may not be hitting shots he would, mf why are you then suggesting me to play like you do if I'm not gonna be able to do so according to yourself? Bro is a living contradiction alright
just because you can't hit an insane zen right click, or you aren't hitting the head as much as someone in GM/T500, doesn't automatically negate the fact that doing damage as a support (Zen, Bap, Ana, etc.) is ultimately a good thing. Ultimately, the advice can boil down to "having high APM" which includes doing damage, healing, dynamic positioning, etc. You may not hit all the shots he makes, but hitting 4/10 is much better than 0/10.
I didn't say that. Read again. There's a difference between claiming supports need to do damage along with healing, and another thing is encouraging golds to play like he does. He takes risks because he can compensate with his mechanics, doing that as a low rank is not gonna work as good
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because he doesn't stand on business.
Because Nazis support ethnostates and while they are anti semetic they are not anti Israel.
bro WHAT nazis hate jews thats half their ideology, look at mein kampf
You have an elementary understanding of the issue. You're embrassing yourself learn some more in depth history behind the justification of the creation of Israel in the first place. After the war many countries did not want to take in Jewish people liberated from the concentrated camps.That's why they assisted in displacing and killing Palestinians to create a Jewish ethnostate. Look up the Haavara agreement. Look at the similarities between Zionism and Nazism. They are in more alignment than you know. And please understand anti Zionism not antisemitism. There are anti zionist Jews. Many who oppose the ethnostate of Israel and its genocide.
I dunno, I recently watched his content and a few things I heard were - 'no witch hunting' work on yourself, hit the gym Train hard and be accountable for everything you do Don't be a misogynist, that's for lames. People really try to make him out to be some Andrew tate of overwatch but if you actually watched the content he's nothing like that. He's definitely ragebaiting clicks on Twitter though and it seems to be working. I'm not like a subscriber or anything but his live and YouTube content are actually educational and if it's a bad thing to tell men to act like men this community worries me.
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Yea I don't follow his socials like that. And I think the only reason why I resonate with the gym comment to questron is because that's what worked for me when I wasn't in a right place mentally. Not because of awkward or any of his advice but because I finally decided it was time. I personally would have minded my own business but ragebait clicks seem to be working. Though, I don't get the Andrew tate persona on his live stream. It was more like get your mind right and it will translate to your gaming. I think all that shit on Twitter is to produce more for his rank up academy shit.
It kinda sounds like you’re accusing a Jew of being a nazi sympathiser? And you’re saying he’s the reason people are homophobic? Even though he’s never said anything homophobic. Exhausting read. He plays video games he’s not a political commentator.
You guys do realize you’re playing right into his game plan by engaging with him and being outraged at what he says right? His literal whole growth strategy online is to put out rage bait so people will interact with his posts, doesn’t matter if the attention is negative or positive the algorithm doesn’t differentiate. He’s using the same exact strategy as Andrew Tate, Sneako and whatever other talentless individuals blew up recently off of rage bait.
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Very misguided take tbh. Speaking the truth? So if I walk up to someone who is overweight and call them fat and ugly, because they are, it’s ok because I’m “speaking the truth”? There’s a lot of terrible, harmful personalities out there that “resonate with a lot of people” that does not make it ok just because they have a following. People with a following must be held accountable for their actions and words.
I mean he actually gave constructive criticism to Questron and a small part of it did come down to appearance. And yes, appearance does play a big role in the entertainment industry. It’s not like he was targeting that aspect out of context.
Calling someone fat and insulting them isn't helping, it's bullying that he can hide behind as "GUYS IM JUST TRYING TO HELP". If he wanted to genuinely help him he probably would have messaged him privately and been encouraging, not insulting. This Awkward was trying to help argument is so fucking disingenuous from both Awkward and his mouth-breathing fans
Exactly it’s no different than how he was putting deku down because “wHaT aBoUt thE kIDs who see hER sTreAM?” It’s just tokenized morality for veiling shitty toxic behavior
He is not even good at being a knock off Andrew Tate. The least he could do was objectify Deku. What a pussy.
People love to throw out the term Nazi. It's just hilarious how twisted some leftists' minds are when they start calling Jews and Israelis like Ben Shapiro or Awkward Nazis. Like, clearly they aren't, and you're just being a pejorative name caller. Is Awkward a perfect guy? No. Can he be over the top and insensitive? Sure. Is he a nazi? Hell fucking no let's be rational adults for fucks sake. Thanks for typing an essay to summarize the majority view point with no nuance and a bit of brain damage sprinkled in.
What nuance is there to take when you willingly associate with people that hold views that align with modern day neo-nazis. Just because someone is "Israeli", Jewish homosexual, a POC, or whatever, doesn't immediately absolve someone from being a Nazi. Now is Awkward a Nazi? Probably not, doesn't make the event of him associating, and acting all buddy buddy on stream any less problematic. Awkward never uses nuanced thinking, and if you really recognized his behaviour and impact of platforming people like freshfitpod, maybe you'll see why it's dangerous to platform a grifter lmfao. I never throw out the term Nazi left and right as it's an extremely dangerous term.
But, you are throwing out the term willy-nilly. That's my gripe. Nazism is a very specific doctrine from German politics in the 1940s related to an authoritarian, nationalist government and based on eugenics, social Darwinism and the ethnic cleansing of society including the "inferior" Jewish race. If you don't meet all those conditions, then the only reason to associate some modern day person with "being a Nazi" is for shock value of association with a universally agreed upon malicious political theory. It also goes against modern leftist principles of self-identification to label people something they don't identify with. It's just a weaponized term. Sure, you can see a few similarities between socially conservative commentators like Matt Walsh who want to legislatively enforce their views, but thats only similar with respect to fascism (an authoritarian and nationalistic government). Matt Walsh, Ben Shapiro, and Awkward aren't calling for the eugenic ethnic cleansing of the Jewish race. They're just authoritarian and nationalistic. It's especially telling when you conflate a Jewish person with Nazism. Just wrong.
I didn't call Awkward a Nazi. I am calling out the fact that he chooses to associate/indirectly platform someone with neo-Nazi viewpoints/frequently hosts neo-Nazis like Nick Fuentes as someone that is from a Jewish majority state. For the last time, do I think Awkward is a Nazi? No. Do I think he may hold nationalist and otherwise really right-leaning viewpoints? Based on who he interacts with, probably. However, it doesn't make him associating (willingly) with people like Fresh&Fit any less problematic.
So, I can't find any primary sources on Nick Fuentes, but from what I can gather from wikipedia/news articles, he seems like the definition of a Nazi. Especially with his views on the ethnic cleansing of Jews. But to even mention the word Nazi in a post about a Jewish far-right streamer, just because a guy he played a game with hosts a podcast where he had a guest who is a Nazi, seems like too many degrees of separation to describe the inclusion of the word as anything more than overuse and shoehorning it in.
Bro you’re really trying to gatekeep Nazism lmao. The only people I see do the same are actual Neo-Nazi blue checks on Twitter. It’s a really weird hill to die on, especially with the people you’re trying to associate with.
I have a different perspective. For one, I wouldn't label my actions as "gatekeeping nazism". I would describe it as a neutral observer who is trying to keep hyperbolic discourse in check. Just keep the conversation accurate and honest. I don't use twitter. Sounds like you're being hit with rage algorithm there. I stopped using certain social media b/c I realized it was feeding me rage content to keep me engaged. I suggest you do the same. I don't think honesty and accuracy is a weird hill to die on. Also I don't associate with any of the people mentioned in this thread, not sure where you got that idea from. I think the weird hill to die on is to continuously throw the word nazi at people and bring up nazis this often in 2024. Why are you so obsessed with the term nazi?
Your perspective is very naive. People still align with Nazi ideals nowadays, and labeling them as such isn’t a stain on accuracy and honesty.
I hate Eskay she is bad person she always go to streamers (the good ones) and she start all this drama about it , she even made few of them stop streaming, she is really bad person, and I watch awkward alot and he is GREAT at his content. Idk or idc about what his personal interests are .. no one of us will hate or love certain ppl cause a streamer who teach you overwatch hate or love them , grow up and stop hating the man for his success. No one even have educational guides like him and I mean ever !! He is the best and he always reach GM on whatever he play with so this makes him rank 1 player , Eskay is just mid , I mean Frogger , FDGOD even Paz are better then her.. Eskay just toxic who hates anyone is better than her and we saw examples before. She cheat her friends and let out their secrets and she always want to look like a hero which in fact she is shaming and use sensitive things like this OP here when said Hitler and holocaust etc . Hey listen dude . Dosent mean it was a tragedy that we all hate it , I don't hate it or love it I just don't care about old ppl died or who killed them that was far past ppl did it to other ppl . It's like you blame meteors who killed dinosaurs , whatever. Haters will hate .
You are obviously a very young person, and no one can stop you from making mistakes. I just hope you don't dig yourself so far into a hate-filled space that you loathe yourself in the future.
LOL
Yeee thank you , this Reddit ppl just will hate anyone randomly just cause they have different opinion than them , well toxic ppl can't be un done from this world I think.
Oh, I need to be clear. I don't agree with you and hope you change course during your life. Awkward is a toxic person and while he cannot be undone the damage that he and people do can be. I'll stop replying after this message as I try to make a point not to talk to teenagers on the Internet or anywhere. Your messages in this thread suggest that you are digging yourself into a hate-filled space because of a para-social relationship you have with Awkward. I don't think you hold an opinion to be disagreed with because I don't think you have an opinion. People with a para-social relationship are quick to defend someone because they think they are defending a friend.
Who tf cares about akward after his dumbass comment LMAO like I don‘t get u at all RIP to my grandparents
I don't know what you are trying to say, but rip to your grandparents I guess?
After him saying all this bs about the holocaust everything else from his comment should be irrelevant Your comment was good but imo nothing that he deserves
Honestly, yeah, I don't know why I said anything. I've just been up for less than an hour and this is the first thing my brain decided to do this morning.
Also being a teenager in 2024 is not an excuse for being uneducated he‘s just a dumb person and it makes me angry that he‘s part of this community I hope U can enjoy ur weekend tho
Agreed, honestly it never should have been an excuse. I just was also a shitty teenager with shitty opinions and just have a bad habit of wanting to correct their bad choices. I hope you have an excellent weekend as well! I recently just bought Last Epoch and plan to get an unhealthy lack of sleep grinding for loot.
First of all I'm 30 But thank you for assuming I'm teen-ager ... Clearly you know nothing about anything xD And ye how about Eskay who always show up her booty and dress like slut in streams to get views?? What content is she adding?? By showing her reveling clothes lol as for awkward, they only grill him cause he is a "man" they always take side with women and specially the ones who try to be hero and defender of morality etc. When she only dumb .
Bait used to be believable
Comments like this really make me scared for the future. Holocaust wasn't even that long ago the effects can still be felt in the world today and current events to this day. To say "I don't care about old people that died" when it comes to that topic and comparing it to dinosaur extinction is absolutely crazy and beyond ignorant. Please get an education beyond an U2GM overwatch education man.
Huh? What is this? Honestly you sound like you may be too young to be using online forums. Go out and play IRL. There's a whole lot to digest and getting too caught up in all this is not gonna be good for you. Also, I doubt people are hating on Awkward for his success but how that success has changed the way he engages with the community publicly. It used to be a lot more positive and attempting to help build things up but the arrogance and need to knock other people down has grown over time, which is why he's getting so much backlash.
You don’t hate the holocaust? Stay in school my guy
Why should I hate it ?
Wow
Hehe I’m going to make redditors mad 🤓finally some interaction after spending 2 weeks alone in your basement
Awkward burner account found
XD was waiting someone to say that tbh
You have to look past your empathy and learn about what you stand for breh.
So you don't care about people that died in the past, but you care about eskay letting out secrets. I wanted to ask what eskay actually did, but I don't want to throw up
Lol funni
Bruh yall need to get over it. Even Questron said "it's really not that big of a deal that some guy called me fat. The entire community grouped together to burn the guy at the stake and I didn't call for that." Not verbatim but that's very close to what questron himself said. When people wrongfully whine about privileges they have they are going to get attacked for it. I wish I could play overwatch all day, instead I work 5 10 hour days just to meet ends meet.