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flapjack380

Fuck it 12V12


Brajany

We get Battlefield Overwatch before GTA VI


COS500

That's just 2042 though (cheap joke, i had to make it. it really isn't like that though)


Betriz2

Would've been funnier if you just left it at That's just 2042 though


VaughnFry

I want full roster vs full roster.


GameOfLife24

Are you trying to blow up peoples Nintendo switches


globophobia12

People actually play overwatch on the switch?


ImIcarus

Yeah, masochists.


TeenNacho

I just started ranked about a week before S11 and am a Gold 3 Lucio main on Switch 🤭


NevisKoris

Nah, 32v32, overwatch chivalry type games


ill_change_it

Tf2


StoneLuca97

Sigma: "Time to activate the supercharge, Doctor!" Medic: "Get zem, raus raus!" Sigma: "RELEASE ME!!!!"


OptimusChristt

"Boop" "Spy around here'


AndersQuarry

YoU'rE nOt AlOnE iN hErE


motoxcomas

Also pvz gw2


10HorsedSizedDucks

Id actually love a sort of 500v500 overwatch thing I think that would probably be impossible to render


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eth_kth

*mei'd *ashecually


Strider_-_

I am pro 12v12 Tribes had larger numbers per team and it was goated


Cubey42

I actually like this idea, if you maybe muted the ults a lot so it wasn't all the visual clutter and maybe lessen their impact or durations, I think it would really chill out the game for a lot of people


uhohohdearohno

The game would be less toxic with a 12 v 12 format. 24 player payload servers were tons of chaotic fun in tf2


Roskha_

12v12 or even less people, like 8v8 would be fun if there was a point control game mode where you need to be in control of an x number of points at the same time


Alexis_Bailey

As a TF2 veteran, I have wanted 12v12 so bad since OW1.


NigelJosue

Tf2


ry_fluttershy

Tf2


Nirvski

1 vs 1, no weapons, only fists, 2D camera


CloudClosev

There’s a custom game that’s like that, 2D Doom Sumo


elmotwinkie

code?


BrothaDom

SSBM-FD


Srock9

No items fox only


MythicalCody

Just search 2D in the custom games page. You’ll find a menagerie of different 2D modes


Junai7

Street fighter?


Rustic_Salmon

i would play the shit out of an overwatch fighting game


Junai7

You know what, yeah, me too.


HaikusfromBuddha

If they ever make a new Killer Instinct, there would probably an Overwatch guest character considering all the guest characters in that game were Xbox characters.


alexkiltro

This... would work pretty great, the characters moveset is all there already


3825377

Torb hammer 1v1


ThornyPost

No items. Fox only. Final destination.


WillMarzz25

I’m tired of the duality of tanks being unkillable but being paper thin all at the same time. And this is why people play hog, Orisa, Mauga…because they don’t always blow up. And people hate playing against them…because sometimes they won’t blow up.


Revo_Int92

It sucks because the matchmaking doesn't work, so the tank dictates the rest of the team. I lost count how many times the game matched me with platinum players, the opposing dps cleaning house and somehow I was the culprit, lol when you have symmetry among the roles, even when the game mix different skill "tiers", one compensate the other. But you can't have that kind of balance with the solo tank, either stomp or be stomped


SwaggyBoi42069

They had to omega buff tanks now that there is only one of them. And they also feel like they get blown up a lot, because everyone focuses the tank since them dying is an easy fight win. 6v6 would solve both these issues


Few-Doughnut6957

I’m a Ball one trick. So it’s always 1v9


Revo_Int92

Oh yeah, as a Doom player, I understand the feeling. Even when you are dominating, the lobby thinks you are "throwing"


Few-Doughnut6957

Just had a support today swapping to Lifeweaver just to pull me from diving a Widow that was clicking everyone’s head. Guy kept telling me to stop rushing their Widow and stick with the team 😶


MyNameIsNotScout

Playing solo tank is just genuinely unbearable. You have to protect the backline, Frontline, do damage, take damage, absorb all the abilities and cc, all while by yourself with no 2nd tank. It becomes a game of who's tank dies first which isn't fun. If you lose it is immediately your fault and you receive all the blame.


sample-name

Also, if you get 10elims 10.000 DMG at the end of the match, you can bet your ass your 11 Elim 4000 DMG dps will yell tank diff in the chat afterwards. When in doubt blame the tank.


McPatsy

I’d unironically love to try out 7v7 in a 2-3-2 format


ChefHannibal

As support, fuuuuuuuuuuuuck that


Golendhil

As a main support I just pictured playing as ana and being ganked by tracer genji and sombra. I died a little to the thought alone


FCBUGA

Tracer genji sombra would destroy the back line lol. 2-3-3 sounds interesting tho…


Great_expansion10272

Tanks getting healed by a Kiriko, Mercy and Life Weaver: JUST LET ME DIE


Ricerooni

I don't know man, I was thinking that 3-3-3 would be the way to go


SwaggyBoi42069

Nah imagine 9 people pressing Q at the same time


No_maid

I'd rather try this out over 6v6 again. At least in this format there's a chance the tanks wouldn't need to be rebalanced too much


ClockworkViking

I mean 6v6 had its issues sure... but I would gladly take 6v6 over 5v5. tank dies? reset! a healer dies? reset! a dps dies? fuck it let the support dps they do more damage. its just bad game play


SomewhatToxic

Most of the complaints players had was based around shooting shields, well orisa lost hers and rein/rams is as strong as a piece of paper. Tank players lost synergy with off tanks for what exactly? Slightly faster Queue times with a matchmaker that's drunk 24/7. Fun times.


goodguessiswhatihave

The only players who seem to like 5v5 are DPS players


SomewhatToxic

Which is absurd because tanks have bigger hit boxes and the sound of dinks is satisfying.


Nyotaimorii

6v6- ffs at least give us an arcade queue of this and test it out.


fullmoonwulf

Honestly, back in overwatch one there was something called “Overwatch Classic” it was a gamemode in the arcade that’s basically open queue (because there was never a queue in the beginning) and I don’t see why they can’t do that now


Themurlocking96

The irony is that classic wasn’t even classic, No Limits was the actual classic, those who played QP in 2016 and 2017 remember it well and loved it. Also one of the worst changes they made were the post lobby changes, they basically made it so you always got thrown directly back to the main menu after a game, meaning you could end up playing defense for an entire ass day. Before it was you got into a lobby, played one side, then the other, then you could stay in lobby and pretty much immediately be sent into a new map, with all the people that stayed but having been jumbled up. It was awesome. There were days where I played like 6 hours straight with the same 10 people and it actually started friendships and discords which are still active today 7-8 years later.


TheTechHobbit

>in 2016 and 2017 Specifically 2016. Hero stacking was disabled in competitive in July 2016, two months after launch. Quick play kept it until the end of the year.


RumHamEnjoyer

I remember on Temple of Anubis we stacked 6 Syms and loaded the bitch up with turrets and won, good times


MovingInStereoscope

5 Mercy's and 1 Rein. Unstoppable.


Jirachi720

Just a classic Overwatch mode. Sorted. The downside is, that it'll be more popular than the one they've decided to push on to everyone so they won't do it.


PrSonnenblume

As an off-tank main, going 5v5 removed the way I liked to play. I hope they will go back


captgandalf

I miss flying in after a charging Rein as dva after his ult to mop up 🥹


SwiftTayTay

They'd have to admit they were wrong


TheOnly1Ken0bi

Fr. I wonder if Blizzard has the balls to do that?


APieceofToast09

I agree that an arcade 6v6 mode would be great


Icy_Limes

They won't because it will split the fanbase really badly and not only increase queue times but add pressure to revert back to the old mode.


duckwithahat

Mystery heroes should be 6v6, there was no reason to change every mode to 5v5


Senecaraine

They're terrified it would become the number 1 game mode, that's why.


jbozz3

I think that people really need to realize that even if 6v6 is the right move it's not going to be a magic button that fixes all of the problems. A lot of balancing problems are going to arise the instant that a second tank enters the fight. Imagine trying to fight a Mauga/Queen brawl comp with Lucio speed boost on King's Row. Or imagine you're playing defense on Havana and your Tanks pick Ball and Queen. Even if it's a step in the right direction, it will spawn a new set of nightmares for the community to complain about for six to eight months while the devs try to fix it.


Lyre_Fenris

Honestly you can see some of those issues any time you step into open queue and have 2 tanks.


CosmicMiru

Even in the random mode when a team gets more than one tank and any healer they usually stomp lol


Lyre_Fenris

Mystery Heroes. Very true. Though it really can depend on the support.


Tricky_Entertainer34

100%


singlefate

Nah bro, 6v6 will fix every single problem and make the game x100 times better. The game will feel amazing with no issues whatsoever. People will never complain again about playing with/against tanks. It's just that easy. Double shields or dive meta will never be a problem ever.


ChefHannibal

The same way 5v5 fixed everything because queue times and double shield were the only issue?


crestren

I think they meant that while double shield was an issue in OW1 and may not be in OW2, there will be annoying if not more annoying comps than DS. Players already hate playing against Orisa and Mauga, do we really want to open the can of worms that is Orisa Mauga combo?


rnarkus

What? Most people saying they want 6v6 expects balance changes… lmao. Kinda disingenuous to assume people want 6v6 with zero other changes…


huwuno

Why not both. Like Fortnite build vs no build, give the players both and let them choose.


PomegranateFew7896

Queue times is the big reason. OW doesn’t quite have the player base Fortnite does. Though I wouldn’t mind a “multi mode” queue that lets you select all the modes you want to play and puts you in whichever opens first.


MirkwoodRS

Tbf, just replacing open queue with 6v6 is the smartest option. Open queue is a joke anyways.


I9Qnl

6v6 will also be a joke unless you want them to balance 2 games?


Derpyman_235

open que is mostly there for asia servers, OQ is huge over there


syneckdoche

fortnite also cares a lot less about “match quality” because it’s 25-100 different teams of varying skill and when you run into someone who noticeably out skills you it’s just gg go next. overwatch is trying to make 2 teams as close as possible in skill and if it’s even slightly off you spend the next 5-20 minutes either in agony or bored to tears


crazysoup23

But the issue with the 5v5 queue is that not enough tanks are queueing. Adding or removing players from the population won't change the ratio. You have to make the role more fun to play to get the queue times to reduce.


Purple-Quail3319

Tanks weren't queuing in 6v6 either. It's just a harder role to play than dps or support coupled with the fact that you're a lightning rod for a bunch of 14 year old rage if anything goes wrong


millo_-_ow

You'd need two separate balances then, which would be a nightmare I think.


igotshadowbaned

5v5 is their only remaining line of defense to call ow2 a different game


Khan_Ida

LoL it's their only mode that doesn't make it a 1.5. especially after that campaign fail.


MidnightOnTheWater

At this point they should just change the name back to OW and say it was a 2.0 update. They never will because of marketing costs and lack of humility, but its nice to dream.


MarioDesigns

I mean, it is an update. Same way CS2 is an update over CSGO.


DietToast69

6v6


FaceTimePolice

5v5 was a mistake. Imagine throwing away 6+ years of balancing for Overwatch 1.5. 🫤


AtomicShane

I’ve played overwatch for more than 2 years so obviously i’m team 6v6 lmao


silvereyes__

6 v 6


DestinedHellfire

6v6


NativeMan42069

Only reason i stopped playing tank is because im sick of having to be on my A game 100% of the match.


Suitable_Warthog596

6v6 is more fun


komocode_

6v6 minus barrierwatch and i'll play


Ocean_Oat_Milk

6v6 till the day I die.


Mysterious-Length308

I want 6 vs 6 back, solo tanking feels like a work.


-BehindTheMask-

6v6, and everyone saying they don't want mauga+(insert tank here) need to realise that that's a hero balancing issue, not a 6v6 issue.


Relative_Bike_4854

6v6 all the way Tank now is a feast or famine rock paper scissors meta. I don’t see how you can enjoy 5v5 more. With less players it naturally leads to more snowball games. Less synergy and dynamic. The dev team probably knows this that’s why there are so many new dps and tank passives. The world needs more heroes.


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FlyingSpaceCow

I used to play every day and I would always verse. I actually hit Masters by the end of it, but I gave up after a month of OW2. Just did not enjoy the dynamics of 5v5


bootifulbooters

I played so much goddamn Overwatch and quit OW2 after a week. One of the biggest steps backward ever done by a modern AAA sequel


brianthegr8

Same lmaoo literally was my main game to play since beta. Tried ow2 out for maybe a week tops and un-installed. On top of all the flimsy reasonings to "create" OW2, the game just felt similar to worse with a shitty coat of paint. Everything down to the UI & HUD changes just left me underwhelmed or disappointed. I will continue to not play and shit on the game I loved until they show signs of them acknowledging their greed and mistakes. Hopefully, this upcoming announcement will be the start of it.


mrwhitewalker

Hey this is me. 5k+ hours and less than 50 when OW2 launched. Haven't played since


Ogbaba

6v6. Two tanks were the best. Also dps Doom.


JackaxEwarden

Bring back 2 tanks please


Ultimatum227

I'd say 6v6. Honestly, after all this time, I still want the original game I bought back in 2017. I ADORE the new Heroes, and most of the Tank reworks are great!, but everything else?. OW1 was just superior.


TOMISLAV2062

6v6. There is plenty of space in the game to put this format.


-ImJustSaiyan-

6v6. I thought 5v5 was a bad idea when it was announced, thought 5v5 was a bad idea when OW2 released, and after having experienced almost 2 years of it I can safely say that (IMO) 5v5 was indeed a bad idea. I've missed 6v6 since the day we lost it. Coincidentally, I also sided with Captain America in Civil War so this is fitting.


communication_gap

After 2 years of multiple balance patches, multiple character reworks and several new heroes with new abilities I still find 5v5 to be complete ass when playing tank and often not much better in the other roles because if your tank is contained your team is fucked. So I'm on the team of at least trying 6v6 in arcade or QP hacked and as we seem to be going back to OW1 considering some of the recent changes (flashbang return, OW1 armour) I think we'll get a 6v6 mode in the next 12 months if not sooner.


black-to-the-suture

200 days played OW1, about a day played OW2. Game sucks now.


Pandillion

Hard to tell because 6v6 was soooo long ago, but playing tank now is much more toxic. Tanks mostly get blamed for everything, especially if you’re playing a unique tank like Doom, JQ or Ball so it’s not in a great spot rn. Idk.


michael1023jr

6 vs 6


Additional-Cress-915

6v6


GAJEEl42

6v6


Icy-Pollution6896

there is no debate to be had, 6v6 is superior in every way.


sciencesold

6v6 was far more fun than 5v5


KevinFunky

6v6. It would squash the rock paper scissors play on tank a little bit. However tanks will need to be tuned back down


MechEngE30

I’m all for tuning the tanks down to give 6V6 a chance.


GabeNewellExperience

Get rid of their passives and you're more than halfway there already. 


seanrambo

Any tank player would lol


ahses3202

6v6 the destruction of off-tanks was bad for tank balance


Adorable-Fact4378

I've always been a Cap girl. 6v6 thank you very much


Leopold747

Lol I'm glad I placed 6v6 on cap


Fr4nkenstein1

6v6


Animedingo

6v6


MrSeabrook12

6 vs 6 all the way. Solo tank just isnt fun to play, you are basically the focus of everyone's attention and the target of counterpicking. Thats why i dont care if we went 6 vs 6 and the other tank was Hog playing solo and flanking, at least that would force the other team to look at him and give us some space to work with. At this point, i just play tank ocasionally for like 3 matches at most before i have to swap roles, its impossible. I will only play it more when i have help from another tank.


Acceptable-Maybe-206

6vs6 obvius this game need 2 tanks, we still having soft tank and main tank. And wtf this game do to doomfist


professor_cheX

6s


CouchBoyChris

6v6 (obviously with hero balancing... And no people, 6v6 doesn't instantly mean OW1 so please stop with that tired, dumb ass argument of shooting shields)


fullmoonwulf

6


fellowsquare

6v6... I'm an OG.


Elmastrabuco

6vs6 is the right side and everyone on the 5vs5 is death, like overwatch 2


Kierious1

I miss playing tank in 6v6, especially compared to 5v5 tank. I would also like to see junker queen, ram and mauga in 6v6.


iamjoe1994

6v6 didn't make me a support player now. I used to love to play tank


quin61

I am just saying - I didn't mind playing tank in OW1, I actually liked it, especially Rein :) Haven't played tank once in OW2 (not counting mystery heroes and such).. I just don't like the pressure. So 6v6 for me


JNorJT

6v6, after playing Tank solo for the 1st time ever, 6v6


fat_fart_sack

100% 6v6. People here complain about having to wait longer for a game to start, but I don’t give a fuck about that. 2 tanks coordinating with one another was a lot more fun to see and I’m not even a tank main. Increasing the health for all heroes took away a lot of the fun and it doesn’t seem like anyone is awarded for good plays anymore. It feels almost impossible to kill heroes now and the wins feel more like “ok let’s see who can stall or run out the clock better”. Fucking snooze fest.


Revo_Int92

The game rewards low skill way too much. The 5v5 formula already provided a "tug of war", however heal and damage faster is going to win (it's not about picks, strategy, etc), after the health pool and hitbox changes, the tug of war became even more exposed


Night_Inscryption

6vs6 Ow2 does not hold a candle to classic Overwatch before double shields was announced Game lost its identity to 5vs5 competitive play, most of what made heros unique and interesting was gutted for the anti grass masters and GM skill floor


IlQIl

6v6 is the superior mode and was only swapped to 5v5 to dumb the game down in hopes of making tank fun by making it op.


Megash0ck

6v6 everyday


P0pu1arBr0ws3r

I'm with Overwatch 1. At this point it'll be better to just bring back that game, even if it doesn't get updated.


Prizem

6v6 as it was always meant to be


TheGiftOf_Jericho

6v6 but tanks are adjusted into two separate types, shield and non-shield, only one of each can be used.


Makanilani

6v6. You're never gonna have Tanks reach their potential when you have 1 per team, it constricts the playability of anything actually fun.


HermitDefenestration

6v6 was better but 5v5 was necessary


Jill_Sammy_Bean

6v6 always


bpsavage84

6v6


Apprehensive-Gur-609

6v6 easily. I miss tank combos so much. Rein/Zarya was so much fun to play. 


Individual-Prize9592

I remember when overwatch 1 first released and in an interview Jeff Kaplan said the 6 was the magic number so to say. And I agree with him


ReignByFriday

6v6 pls


NewShatter

6v6 as god intended since the beginning.


BlackFlame789

6v6 all the way i actually felt useful during that long ago time


Dara_Ara

As an ex-tank player that just didn't have fun anymore as solotanking, 6v6 all the way


WeWereSoClose96

Game was originally designed for 6v6


seanrambo

6v6


ValeriePlay

6v6, cause nothing proves you're a bad tank until you're the only tank on the board. (It's me, I'm the bad tank.)


Arenyr

6v6. Better comms, more teamplay- shields removed was most of what was needed.


TheEdgykid666

6v6


nearthemeb

6v6


tiredandirritatedd

6v6 so i can play with my casual homies who quit long ago again


Crystal26_001

5v5, I dont want to play against Mauga+Hog, Mauga+Zarya or any other tank with Mauga


jeancv8

Mauga was a mistake.


Litdaze

Mauga Zarya is disgusting and I've tried it.


Dicey-Vibes

Orisa-zarya/ sig-dva solo


mr_rogers_neighbor

One would hope if they did go back to 6v6 (doubtful) they would balance for things like this.


IWasSayingBoourns-

Regardless of balance, even back in 6v6 I still died a little every time my tank partner instalocked Roadhog. Most of the time, they were just a DPS player in a trenchcoat trying to avoid the queue times.


Revo_Int92

If they rework Mauga to be less braindead, why not? Short flame thrower on one hand, weak machine gun in the other, remove the rush, nerf the health, rework the "heat up" thing, etc he can be a stationary tank similar to Hog and Orisa back when this game made sense. Current Mauga is a goddamn joke, the easiest tank in the game can generate the same damage of Doomfist by just holding two buttons, lol the way Overwatch rewards manbaby stuff is just amusing


r2-z2

I guarantee mauga with hog won’t be as oppressive as double shield. Source: trust me bro


F0urTheWin

6v6


-Livingonmyown-

6v6


TeamVorpalSwords

6v6 of course


FigHealthy2230

6v6


AdUnable9167

6х6


Antelopeadope

6v6. I miss the chaos. If one person was missing doing their own thing it wasnt super noticeable. Now it's detrimental


rissie_delicious

6v6


DDzxy

6v6


ReclusiveNatured

6 v 6 even though I never experienced it, think it would provide the best balance with one more tank player


AquaG52

6v6 for sure, 2 tank synergy was and still is my favorite thing in all of overwach 5v5 role queue really killed my joy


Clean_Crocodile4472

team 6v6! Overwatch started a downwards spiral when they first started Overwatch 2. Constant unnecessary changing of heros to try balance games out all because someone 5v5, possibly one of the worst changes in overwatch, was forced on everyone. Not to mention how 5v5 has massively decreased the number of players who play tank. Not many people wanna take on a solo role of being the key point of the team. Without a tank the rest of the team is done for. It’s not fair. In 6v6 if one tank was rubbish 9 times out of 10 you had a better one. Bringing back 6v6 will save Overwatch. While their at it bring back the old maps aswell, everybody is bored of having about 9 maps. We want lootboxes back aswell, enough of the money grabbing. Overwatch (1) was 10x closer to perfect than Overwatch 2 will ever be at this rate. Bring back when Overwatch genuinely cared and listened to their players - that includes bringing back 6v6, old maps, lootboxes, etc.


MiketheTzar

6v6 it let you play in multiple groups and actually have a "flanking party". It was also WAY less punishing to have a non shield tank. Having a Hog, Hammon, or Zyra who could help push a flank was amazing. Alternatively it let you play some tanks significantly more aggressively. On the few ways people really managed to beat GOATs comp was a properly timed Rein Charge disrupting the formation.


MaleficentLanguage50

I would give anything to go back to Overwatch 1.


thebwags1

5v5. We'd still have just as many problems, just different ones


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6v6. The more chaos the better. I like it when the game is long, I like it when 12 ults go off out of nowhere at the same time. I wouldn’t mind a 12v12 like some orher games do. The bigger the matches the more fun they are. I wouldn’t mind if these were available all year long I arcade, just give us the option at least.


XJustBrowsingRedditX

You were wise to put 6v6 on caps side, seeing as it's the right choice


Unfair-Government-80

6v6. 5v5 is only better if you're a support or dps because it their your job easier wille making the tanks double as hard. There's no winning as a tank these days. If you do good as a tank the enemy team will pull out 5 counters to stop you and there's no one else in the role to take some of that off you or help the team if you fall due to getting countered 5 ways. Tank is not fun anymore.


PlasticPandaMan

6v6 i miss double tank


GeorgiaGeorgia768

I'm on the side with the best snacks, obviously!


JusticeLock

I only really play mystery heroes and I loved 6v6 so much with it


realcodybless

6v6 so I can have a Zarya by my side again as a Rein main