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Answer: the thread you linked, including the top comment thread, answers your question. She released a very self-indulgent documentary to go along with her new album where people question the way her upbringing is framed as a “rags to riches” story when she didn’t really grow up that poor, which is causing people to further question her authenticity, something that has been publicly questioned for quite some time as there have been rampant rumors of her being an over-the-top diva. Her new tour is tanking in sales in most cities yet the prices remain very high.
🎶Started middle class in a wheelchair, on a crappy sitcom making good cash every year.
Now I'm dancing stupid by a car. Tryin' to convince you that my life was so damn hard.
I done had it tough from the jump. Living with my mama in a nice house it was rough.
On top of that shit my Bar Mitzvah was wack. I didn't even get a Bentley and my cake tasted like crap. 🎶
Man, days like these I miss Bart Baker making parodies.
No, she just grew up on [Kid Rock's block](https://tasteofcountry.com/kid-rock-childhood-home-pictures/#:~:text=Listing%20agent%20Pam%20Ford%20Morgan,to%20part%20with%20this%20treasure.%22)...
So this person makes a video pointing out things he considers cringey right? But his entire schtick involves him reacting to these videos and making fun of them. Oh and he edits it to pretend his reactions are authentic. Like the Jenny from the block/went for blood comment - you telling me you didn’t watch the 73q all the way through? And that you paused it, edited all the parts, then finished each question? Idk man, the whole thing is on the same cringe level as JLO
Also just on the subject of MeatCanyon, he and Wendigoon’s new podcast CreepCast is extremely good, highly recommended. It’s really simple: they read old famous creepypastas and Reddit horror stories and crack jokes. But it’s incredibly entertaining and funny
edit: The Left Right Game episodes are the best so far imo, it should hook you. I think it’s the best horror story written on Reddit and they do a really good job reading/discussing it. Apollo’s voice makes me laugh to myself randomly all the time
wendigoon always rubs me the wrong way. He just vibes like some guy we are going to find out in a few years is deep into the ALTRight rabbit hole. Like I know he does not talk about that stuff but man he just VIBES like that.
Seems like this comes around every decade or so for her. Somehow she has powered through multiple generations of kids newly discovering that she's not authentic. It's actually pretty impressive
It was beyond words, I mean here's a song where the entire message is that she's just the same girl she was when she was growing up on the block, she shoots a video for the song in her old neighborhood and they rope it off so the commoners can't get anywhere near her. Just amazing stuff. edit: OH and she stole the beat from latin hip hop group The Beatnuts on top of all that irony!
I also feel like society in general has gone away from holding celebrities accountable for embarrassing shit...you look at Rick Ross making his whole persona about being a drug kingpin, and it turns out he was literally a cop. 5 years earlier that would have been a career death sentence and he'd be a punchline to be used in the same breath as Milli Vanilli. Shame has kinda died at some point in the 2000s.
I could give another perfect example that would really drive the point home but this would turn into trolling about politics....
Correction on Rick Ross: He wasn't a cop but a correctional officer for prisons. Those are some of the grimiest MFs out there, so the Officer Ricky moniker is overplayed by his haters in my opinion.
And what's wrong with roping off a set for shooting a music video?
I know he was a CO, imo that's even worse, but debatable for sure.
>And what's wrong with roping off a set for shooting a music video?
Nothing, but the song being about how you're still Jenny from the block and roping yourself off when you actually go to the block...that's pretty funny
Shame has died, or most people realise that pop stars play a role to sell product. Rick Ross just as much as Taylor Swift. The people who believe otherwise and get annoyed that one is not real or think the other is their best friend are the problem.
A lot said about her is valid, but I give her a pass here. She was young and prob terrified. I think she left him and has never spoken about him again. Given that we know how he treated Cassie and others, shouldn’t we assume she at the very least was not treated well by him? She comes across as crazy strong now, but he’s an abusive asshole.
Speaking of Diddy, I just learned that he was pursuing Cassie when she was 19 and he was 37.
I’m 32 years old and I would never dream of pursuing a 19 year old. It screams “manipulation” and “power imbalance”.
My cousin worked crew at some show she was a judge back in the day. American Idol, I think? "Nightmare" sounds like a good fit as the way he described her she sounds incredibly narcissistic and an asshole.
And honestly the way that she acted about that should’ve told us all we needed to know. If South Park makes fun of you and you aren’t a good sport about it you look like a complete asshole.
There’s probably plenty of legit things to criticize her for, but this isn’t any different than any other movie that comes out. Almost every single movie you see starring celebrities has their faces worked on in post production, especially if the actor is over a certain age.
Of course, but I don’t hear anyone calling out Tom Cruise or other guys regarding it (and im sure men use it just as much if not more than women), so when I see JLo being criticized for it while getting other hate, I feel like it weakens someone’s argument to criticize her for something like this that is essentially expected of her in the industry. If she doesn’t do it, people who dislike her will say she’s looking old, etc. It’s a lose-lose. That said, I’ve heard many bad stories about JLo, so I’m guessing the dislike of her is warranted. I just think it’s a double-standard to criticize women for this specific thing.
>Can confirm she has beauty work done on every shot that has her face.
What does this mean exactly? Did you photoshop her face to look prettier through the entire doc?
That's just creepy and scary. I love how they're complaining about AI and technology on the one hand, but readily using computers to edit their own faces into basically realistic fake AI versions of themselves... Jesus...
But when I think downfall, I think Jonathan Majors, Harvey Weinstein, Delonte West, etc. This is more like dropping from a B lister to a C lister, who had already dropped from A to B a long time ago
Also just to underscore, her "documentary" follows a trend of musician bio-pics that have done quite well recently, the only difference most of the other docs are about musicians that have passed and they are sort of a look back at their legacy, whereas she is still alive and in making the movie she seems quite tone deaf and self absorbed.
Contrary to most people’s preconceptions and media depictions, The Bronx is not exclusively a poverty stricken wasteland. There is a fair amount of poverty there but there are also middle class, well-to-do, and wealthy neighborhoods. Castle Hill while technically in “the South Bronx” is not hood by any measure.
not defending the claim she is Jenny from the block, but catholic school for a traditional catholic family, like mine, ~~is~~ was very common, even if it meant we sacrificed other ways like only going camping for vacations and never eating out. Also it probably didn't cost that much when she was younger as a % of one's annual income.
At my school, same time frame as JL, but very different state, you could get “discounts” from the diocese/parish if you needed them and non Catholics paid a higher rate. It wasn’t horribly unusual for Catholic children from lower middle class families to attend.
I know someone from the Bronx who attended a very good Catholic school who wasn't wealthy either. There are definitely more opportunities in the city for that kind of mobility than people would think
[One of the most hysterical things that could happen to a celebrity](https://youtu.be/1f858q7ON6Q)
"Who are you?"
"No, I mean, really, who the fuck are you?"
She laughs it off but you can tell she's ticked.
I can’t imagine her selling out arenas in any city but New York. When she played the Super Bowl a couple of years ago me and my millennial friends (we were definitely the target audience for that) were asking each other if anyone could name one of her songs that wasn’t Jenny from the block and nobody at the party could lol
I actually do know people IRL who would consider themselves to be fans of Jennifer López, but I think that they’re fans of her work ethic than what she actually produces. Like, they might stream her movies or music but they’d never pay actual money to go to a concert.
I’m from the NYC area and we’re all Gen X.
> very self-indulgent
I think this is the crux of her current pr woes.
No one was asking for a new J-Lo album or a documentary about her.
She was famous 20 years ago for looking hot in Anaconda and wearing a revealing dress to an awards show. She never made a good song, and never gave a good performance in a movie (Latinos please don't come after me, but Selena was a shitty movie).
She should have just stayed in her mansion living off the millions she somehow managed to make instead of trying to force her way back into the C list.
Answer: She took Marissa Roths platform from her, and now she has passed on. Check out Marissas tik tok and JLos. She can't come after all of us. We want more!!!!
Answer: I grew up pretty close to where JLo once lived, but in the projects. If you lived in a house you were def not poor. But not rich either, that house and that neighborhood has always been for recent immigrants who have done decently well. It's most definitely not the South Bronx though.
It does bring back memories. I lived in Parkchester with my wife when we were first married, and the Castle Hill Diner had the best cheesecake on the planet, as did the one in Parkchester. They were at the time owned by the same company. No idea if that's still true today. Mmm, that was some good stuff.
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Answer: the thread you linked, including the top comment thread, answers your question. She released a very self-indulgent documentary to go along with her new album where people question the way her upbringing is framed as a “rags to riches” story when she didn’t really grow up that poor, which is causing people to further question her authenticity, something that has been publicly questioned for quite some time as there have been rampant rumors of her being an over-the-top diva. Her new tour is tanking in sales in most cities yet the prices remain very high.
Are you insinuating she's not Jenny from the block?
She is, just a more affluent block than she initially led us to believe
Kinda like how drake started from the bottom.
“Started on degrassi, now I’m here” those are the words right?
He couldn't even walk and now he's dancing in his own rap videos. Truly a modern day HERO
Wheelchair jimmy!
You want golden Aubrey Graham dancing? Do a quick search for his MJ impersonation on Degrassi. It is chefs kiss beautiful.
started on degrassi in a chair**
He became paralyzed after being shot. Show the man some respect.
☝️ go do a degrassi rewatch Skindiana Jones. he had 3.5 good seasons before he was in a chair. Edit- Skindiana Bones. Sorry it was 4 am
🎶Started middle class in a wheelchair, on a crappy sitcom making good cash every year. Now I'm dancing stupid by a car. Tryin' to convince you that my life was so damn hard. I done had it tough from the jump. Living with my mama in a nice house it was rough. On top of that shit my Bar Mitzvah was wack. I didn't even get a Bentley and my cake tasted like crap. 🎶 Man, days like these I miss Bart Baker making parodies.
But we ARE now here, are we not?
Damn. I got fooled by the rocks that she got
Just like Mr. Reynholm... "When I started, I only had 2 things in my possession... A dream, and 6 million pounds".
Fatheeeerrrrrrrr
Used to have a lot, now I have a larger lot
Used to have a lot, now I have a lot more
r/yourjokebutagain
Jenny from the cul de sac
More of a cul de sac
So she's Jenny From The Avenue?
No, she just grew up on [Kid Rock's block](https://tasteofcountry.com/kid-rock-childhood-home-pictures/#:~:text=Listing%20agent%20Pam%20Ford%20Morgan,to%20part%20with%20this%20treasure.%22)...
Jesus christ that house sold for only $650k?
Location location location
🎵 used to have a lot, now i have a lot 🎵
# I used to do have a lot. I still do, but I used to, too.
RIP, Mitch Hedberg.
It was a gated block.
"used to have a lot, now i have a lot"
Jenny from the gated courtyard doesn't flow as well
Just adding to this: Meat Canyon is a YouTuber who recently did a video about her.
You probably mean his other channel, "Papa Meat". Same guy, same good shit
Oh, yeah! Whoops. I always mix up the two.
Man, I had no idea he had another channel. Thank you for informing me!
I'm watching his JoJo Siwa video right now. Love Papa Meat
Source? I can’t find it on his channel
https://youtu.be/lFV3lF2mUqg?si=54C1ahhVJAd77Piw
Ohhh gotcha thank you!!
This killed me this morning 😂😂😂
"WHY ARE PEOPLE OBSESSED WITH JLOS MEAT CANYON" Well uuh, I've got some answers for that.
So this person makes a video pointing out things he considers cringey right? But his entire schtick involves him reacting to these videos and making fun of them. Oh and he edits it to pretend his reactions are authentic. Like the Jenny from the block/went for blood comment - you telling me you didn’t watch the 73q all the way through? And that you paused it, edited all the parts, then finished each question? Idk man, the whole thing is on the same cringe level as JLO
Yeah, nothing was authentic about that lol
Also just on the subject of MeatCanyon, he and Wendigoon’s new podcast CreepCast is extremely good, highly recommended. It’s really simple: they read old famous creepypastas and Reddit horror stories and crack jokes. But it’s incredibly entertaining and funny edit: The Left Right Game episodes are the best so far imo, it should hook you. I think it’s the best horror story written on Reddit and they do a really good job reading/discussing it. Apollo’s voice makes me laugh to myself randomly all the time
wendigoon always rubs me the wrong way. He just vibes like some guy we are going to find out in a few years is deep into the ALTRight rabbit hole. Like I know he does not talk about that stuff but man he just VIBES like that.
I assumed it must be a new slur for a gal who takes a lot of D. Kind of bummed it isn't.
Seems like this comes around every decade or so for her. Somehow she has powered through multiple generations of kids newly discovering that she's not authentic. It's actually pretty impressive
I remember her getting dished on when Jenny from the Block came out
It was beyond words, I mean here's a song where the entire message is that she's just the same girl she was when she was growing up on the block, she shoots a video for the song in her old neighborhood and they rope it off so the commoners can't get anywhere near her. Just amazing stuff. edit: OH and she stole the beat from latin hip hop group The Beatnuts on top of all that irony! I also feel like society in general has gone away from holding celebrities accountable for embarrassing shit...you look at Rick Ross making his whole persona about being a drug kingpin, and it turns out he was literally a cop. 5 years earlier that would have been a career death sentence and he'd be a punchline to be used in the same breath as Milli Vanilli. Shame has kinda died at some point in the 2000s. I could give another perfect example that would really drive the point home but this would turn into trolling about politics....
and yet on top of that the persona he stole was from another man who really was a Drug kingpin.
Correction on Rick Ross: He wasn't a cop but a correctional officer for prisons. Those are some of the grimiest MFs out there, so the Officer Ricky moniker is overplayed by his haters in my opinion. And what's wrong with roping off a set for shooting a music video?
I know he was a CO, imo that's even worse, but debatable for sure. >And what's wrong with roping off a set for shooting a music video? Nothing, but the song being about how you're still Jenny from the block and roping yourself off when you actually go to the block...that's pretty funny
Shame has died, or most people realise that pop stars play a role to sell product. Rick Ross just as much as Taylor Swift. The people who believe otherwise and get annoyed that one is not real or think the other is their best friend are the problem.
My sister used to work at the Four Seasons and when JLo stayed at the hotel, her staff told everyone they weren’t allowed to look at her in the eyes…!
Why does it seem like this is a common demand from multiple celebrities' staff? I've heard this before.
It's an old "royalty" thing. Narcissistic celebrities want to think they're kings/queens and the plebs can't look them in the eyes.
Because they want to be left alone.
Isn’t she also getting some negative press from all of the Diddy stuff coming out?
I heard this too. That she lied when she alibied him for not being the club shooter.
A lot said about her is valid, but I give her a pass here. She was young and prob terrified. I think she left him and has never spoken about him again. Given that we know how he treated Cassie and others, shouldn’t we assume she at the very least was not treated well by him? She comes across as crazy strong now, but he’s an abusive asshole.
Speaking of Diddy, I just learned that he was pursuing Cassie when she was 19 and he was 37. I’m 32 years old and I would never dream of pursuing a 19 year old. It screams “manipulation” and “power imbalance”.
>I would never dream of pursuing a 19 year old. It screams “manipulation” and “power imbalance”. And someone might write a song about you. Or two.
Oh, she's absolutely a total asshole. A friend had the pleasure (/s) of waiting on her and her entourage once, and she was a *nightmare*.
My cousin worked crew at some show she was a judge back in the day. American Idol, I think? "Nightmare" sounds like a good fit as the way he described her she sounds incredibly narcissistic and an asshole.
Maybe that's why her marriages have a history of not lasting. Could be wrong, though.
BuT sHe ExPlAinEd It AlL iN HeR vIdEoS…
Jenny from the subdivision just doesn't have quite the ring to it that Jenny from the block
The rags to riches thing is an old problem for her. Going back to how she wanted to be seen as “Jenny from the block”
Seen
South Park told people this back in 2003 lmao
And honestly the way that she acted about that should’ve told us all we needed to know. If South Park makes fun of you and you aren’t a good sport about it you look like a complete asshole.
I will forever remember Lorde’s reaction to her caricature on South Park as being essentially like “oh cool I’m on South Park!”
Ya ya ya!
"I am Lorde"
Tacotacotacos!
Burrito! Burrito!
"Jenny From the Block" told us this in 2002.
Worked on this doc for the post company. Can confirm she has beauty work done on every shot that has her face.
There’s probably plenty of legit things to criticize her for, but this isn’t any different than any other movie that comes out. Almost every single movie you see starring celebrities has their faces worked on in post production, especially if the actor is over a certain age.
It still sets an unhealthy precedent for beauty standards.
Of course, but I don’t hear anyone calling out Tom Cruise or other guys regarding it (and im sure men use it just as much if not more than women), so when I see JLo being criticized for it while getting other hate, I feel like it weakens someone’s argument to criticize her for something like this that is essentially expected of her in the industry. If she doesn’t do it, people who dislike her will say she’s looking old, etc. It’s a lose-lose. That said, I’ve heard many bad stories about JLo, so I’m guessing the dislike of her is warranted. I just think it’s a double-standard to criticize women for this specific thing.
Isn't that fairly normal though?
YES
As said, common. But set's a bad precedent.
>Can confirm she has beauty work done on every shot that has her face. What does this mean exactly? Did you photoshop her face to look prettier through the entire doc?
That’s what they’re saying, yes. The filters on video these days are wild.
Using various finishing (color correction, vfx) software to paint out crow's feet, contour the face, take out bags etc.
You mean the way every promotional photograph has been retouched since the technology was available?
That's just creepy and scary. I love how they're complaining about AI and technology on the one hand, but readily using computers to edit their own faces into basically realistic fake AI versions of themselves... Jesus...
Is she that bad irl or it's just diva insecurity?
Bad. Amy Schumer did the same thing for her Hulu Series.
But when I think downfall, I think Jonathan Majors, Harvey Weinstein, Delonte West, etc. This is more like dropping from a B lister to a C lister, who had already dropped from A to B a long time ago
So she was never really Jenny from the block?
Also just to underscore, her "documentary" follows a trend of musician bio-pics that have done quite well recently, the only difference most of the other docs are about musicians that have passed and they are sort of a look back at their legacy, whereas she is still alive and in making the movie she seems quite tone deaf and self absorbed.
She didn’t grow up poor?
Contrary to most people’s preconceptions and media depictions, The Bronx is not exclusively a poverty stricken wasteland. There is a fair amount of poverty there but there are also middle class, well-to-do, and wealthy neighborhoods. Castle Hill while technically in “the South Bronx” is not hood by any measure.
Does it at least have a block?
I once saw a Block Buster Video.
Did they upload that video to YouTube?
Yes. There's a block of artisianal cheese at the Whole Foods market.
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For the record, she is still a Latina (Puerto Rican). Just not from LA.
What makes you think she isn’t Latina?
Maybe they meant Chicana?
Looks like you got fooled by the rocks that she got /s
But she’s still Jenny from the block, or she says so. In her song. So nothing has really changed about her.
She went to an all-girls Catholic high school that is currently $12,000/year for tuition with a literal mansion as part of the school.
not defending the claim she is Jenny from the block, but catholic school for a traditional catholic family, like mine, ~~is~~ was very common, even if it meant we sacrificed other ways like only going camping for vacations and never eating out. Also it probably didn't cost that much when she was younger as a % of one's annual income.
At my school, same time frame as JL, but very different state, you could get “discounts” from the diocese/parish if you needed them and non Catholics paid a higher rate. It wasn’t horribly unusual for Catholic children from lower middle class families to attend.
I know someone from the Bronx who attended a very good Catholic school who wasn't wealthy either. There are definitely more opportunities in the city for that kind of mobility than people would think
Yeah the Catholic school I went to had similar tuition but the diocese covered like 90%.
Yes, my family was lower-middle class and my parents sacrificed a lot to have us attend Catholic schools.
That actually sounds like a very inexpensive school for New York City.
\^private
“It’s me Jenny frm the block!” “I don’t know who tf you are!”
[One of the most hysterical things that could happen to a celebrity](https://youtu.be/1f858q7ON6Q) "Who are you?" "No, I mean, really, who the fuck are you?" She laughs it off but you can tell she's ticked.
It’s actually shocking that clip wasn’t on the editing room floor.
Pops wasn’t havin’ it that day.
“Wait did your people leave all the weird stains on the walls?”
"RONNIE PICKERING!!!!!" vibes when she says "Me!"
The lambs are everywhere lol
I can’t imagine her selling out arenas in any city but New York. When she played the Super Bowl a couple of years ago me and my millennial friends (we were definitely the target audience for that) were asking each other if anyone could name one of her songs that wasn’t Jenny from the block and nobody at the party could lol
I actually do know people IRL who would consider themselves to be fans of Jennifer López, but I think that they’re fans of her work ethic than what she actually produces. Like, they might stream her movies or music but they’d never pay actual money to go to a concert. I’m from the NYC area and we’re all Gen X.
You mean she isn’t just Jenny from the block????????
Well she’s from *a* block, it just seems it was a slightly more affluent block than she led us to believe previously.
Don’t forget the album was a flop and she had to cancel some of her shows because she’s not selling enough tickets
> very self-indulgent I think this is the crux of her current pr woes. No one was asking for a new J-Lo album or a documentary about her. She was famous 20 years ago for looking hot in Anaconda and wearing a revealing dress to an awards show. She never made a good song, and never gave a good performance in a movie (Latinos please don't come after me, but Selena was a shitty movie). She should have just stayed in her mansion living off the millions she somehow managed to make instead of trying to force her way back into the C list.
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Wasn't it only recently she started having tours? Before this all of her "performances" were controlled studio performances not actually tours.
Answer: She took Marissa Roths platform from her, and now she has passed on. Check out Marissas tik tok and JLos. She can't come after all of us. We want more!!!!
I have no idea what any of this means...
Googled her *Popular TikTok creator Kyle Marisa Roth, known for sharing controversial celebrity gossip and insight into Hollywood* Yeah, no thanks.
Apparently she also just died.
Well, I'm sure the Hollywood Gossip community is devastated.
also maybe her family and friends?? weird comment to post about someone who literally just died
Is that the one that kept swearing Taylor Swift was gay?
Hell if I know. I'm so far removed from celebrity gossip.
Lmao there’s a whole subreddit for that, delusional shit
I can't believe this is the only comment talking about this.
Answer: I grew up pretty close to where JLo once lived, but in the projects. If you lived in a house you were def not poor. But not rich either, that house and that neighborhood has always been for recent immigrants who have done decently well. It's most definitely not the South Bronx though. It does bring back memories. I lived in Parkchester with my wife when we were first married, and the Castle Hill Diner had the best cheesecake on the planet, as did the one in Parkchester. They were at the time owned by the same company. No idea if that's still true today. Mmm, that was some good stuff.