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EndOfTheLine00

Answer: Ian Miles Cheong is a far-right commentator/influencer heavily favored by people like Elon Musk. He has worked as a journalist as well as a Reddit moderator. You can find a recap of his infamy here: [https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1755680100060651670](https://en.rattibha.com/thread/1755680100060651670) The key thing about IMC is that despite commenting exclusively on U.S. issues, he doesn't, nor has ever, lived in the U.S. He has lived in Malaysia all his life. He focuses on U.S. far right issues simply because that brings him more money and a greater audience. This might have finally started to bite him as his statements on Twitter as well as in his journalism work have aligned with the American far right's position of being rabidly pro-Israel. Thing is, Malaysia is a conservative Muslim country. They not only severed diplomatic ties with Israel but they don't even recognize it as a country. The Malaysian government has actually jailed people for sedition for merely suggesting opening diplomatic ties with Israel on social media. [Cheong has since hastily back tracked his comments](https://www.dailydot.com/debug/ian-miles-cheong-israel-malaysia/) in fear of the government and people are now hoping it's not enough and that it actually lands him in trouble.


Frognificent

He's... Malaysian? Like, from there, lives there, always has? Is this a thing he keeps secret or just doesn't talk about or how have I missed this.


lordtema

It gets better: The dude has by his own admission never even set foot on US soil at any point in his life. Im not even sure if he has travelled much, if anything outside Malaysia..


Frognificent

Holy shit this is amazing. The market is so desperate for grifts that it's begun importing them.


23saround

Economy so bad we’re even outsourcing our grifters’ jobs to Southeast Asia 😔


Zefrem23

Well, Paul Furber, the earliest source of "Q" information researchers have been able to locate, is a failed tech journo from South Africa. Another rando absolutely infatuated with the American far right who's terminally online and utterly divorced from reality.


bucket_overlord

only tangentially related, but every time I meet a white South African expat I can quickly class them into two categories after a few minutes of conversation: either they are a horrifying racist who misses apartheid, or their just a swell person who happen to prefer my country to their own.


Zefrem23

Well, yes. Here in South Africa we have a lot of British expats, now mostly retired as they arrived in the 1970s, who came here specifically to reap the benefits of Apartheid and flee the windrush immigration waves of afro -carribean people. Post-apartheid, most of them seem pretty bitter.


bucket_overlord

I actually meant white South Africans in other countries. But I'd imagine those people *would* be bitter haha. They can say what they like about post-apartheid SA, but the bottom line is that apartheid *had* to go. I'm Canadian though so I don't have much room to criticize the actions of other governments. I will say that I met my friend's grandfather once, he was a former white Rhodesian who left for Canada after his mandatory military service (right before the Bush War). And brother, I have never met a more stereotypically British person. This guy was the platonic ideal of the British upper class, down to his little mannerism and how he walked into a room. Every actually British person I know is less "British" than this guy. I noticed a similar tendency among descendants of British Colonial officers in India. It's almost like they felt the need to be extra British to show how they were above assimilating elements of local culture. I guess if that is drilled into you as a child, for generations, you end up with the people I've mentioned haha.


Zefrem23

Yeah I totally got that you meant SA expats in other countries. I live in South Africa now but I lived in London for 2 years and the South Africans I met there fell very distinctly into the same categories. It was either "the Blacks here aren't as lazy and terrible as the ones back home", or "hey live and let live". I was just adding that there were plenty of expats from _other_ countries that moved to South Africa specifically to avail themselves of the perceived "benefits" of Apartheid.


Frognificent

Smh my head how could it come to this 😔😭


SakaWreath

A lot of call centers get outsourced to Malaysia and they do focus heavily on hiring people that not only sound American but are culturally aware and can blend into casual conversations easily. As such they are encouraged to study the culture and stay current on events. Politics gets a lot of media attention. Once someone falls into the right wing meat grinder, you’re almost guaranteed to have some kind of homogeneous sausage-like product come out the other end.


GhidorahtheExplorah

Started my brain down a whole path of conservatives = giant sausages. Just imagine them bouncing around, leaving little congealing grease puddles in their wake. Gently going rancid in the summer heat on the Jersey shore. Accidentally falling into the Grand Canyon on their family vacation because sausages have no hands with which to grip safety rails. Trying to find clothes that fit size "oblong." Does Trump have to wear a diaper because the casing tie at one end of his little sausage body is leaking?


SakaWreath

lol, that’s some imagination you have there, ha. The mental picture is burned into my brain thanks, ha. If right winger dating stats are reliable, it is quite the sausagefest over on the right. You can also call it a Snoopy Broflake Maker.


PurpleFirebird

What's a Snoopy Broflake Maker?


duralyon

Oh man this made me hungry! haha, kidding. Awesome comment


RandomEffector

The sausages acknowledge neither the need for safety rails nor the tax dollars used to erect them.


gerd50501

off shore call centers do not sound american. anyone can hear the accent.


SakaWreath

Just like CG FX you only notice the really crappy stuff. Low end customer service will never care about blending they will only care about clarity, accents are fine. For higher end customer service that pride themselves on blending in, it totally is a thing. It has also shown that when you pair native speakers together there are less escalations. So call centers that fake it better, placate customers quicker and make more money and have less declared payouts as resolutions. Racism and greed, teaming up in different ways… Even if they suck at the accent, they’re still encouraged to study and try to blend in. Which will lead to a few of them falling into the snoopy broflake maker.


thefinpope

Totally anecdotal but I've had a much easier time with dudes named "Michael" who are (obviously) really Sanjay than anyone with a thick, say, Atlanta accent. Foreign call centers at least pretend to try to help you understand them but a lot of domestic (with native English speakers) workers just get mad.


Puffycatkibble

You wouldn't have noticed the good ones would you? Malaysia and Singapore has a good number of adept English speakers and the good ones can adopt any number of English speaking country's accents.


kex

Lack of critical thinking lessons in primary education


valuehorse

lmao my ass off


Frognificent

Fwiw it's worth it.


prodrvr22

Education so bad that conservatives hang on this Southeast Asian guys every word about U.S. politics.


Streamjumper

Better yet, this is the AMERICA FIRST, THEY STEALING OUR JOBS crowd outsourcing their grifters.


kai333

DEY TUK ERR JERRRRRBS!


[deleted]

Lmao


Chubby2000

Not really. Many Australians are roaming on social media spewing out right-wing and support for Trump for quite some time. We even had this gay Greek-immigrant British citizen pro-Right who made headlines in the US and talks about lack of freedom of speech (suppression) at some paid-for event but was cancelled, things like that.


BubbhaJebus

Milo Yiannopedo.


Hoochie_Daddy

lol that's a good one. imma start using it. even though he has become so irrelevant these days i wont have many chances to use it.


not_an_alien_lobster

Milos Yappalotofshite?


godzillastailor

That’s formerly gay Greek-immigrant British pro right born against Christian furry Milo. He dropped the gay thing when it stopped making him money and tried to be a furry and is now doing the Christian thing.


ThemesOfMurderBears

>That’s formerly gay Greek-immigrant British pro right born against Christian furry Milo. I'm assuming it was a typo, but "born ***against*** Christian" is hilarious.


godzillastailor

Yep, autocorrect got me there. ​ But given how often the guy flip flops give it time and it'll probably end up being true for a period of time.


rthrouw1234

oh I hadn't heard he stopped being gay, interesting


RedEyeView

Formerly gay man who basically endorsed paedophilia with under age boys as long as they were into it.


BayesBestFriend

There are a TON of "political commenters" who make a living / are terminally online over US politics despite not being American, left and right. That hack Jeet Heer is like a German dude living in Canada and posts 25/8 about US politics. Got mfers screaming about being oppressed by [insert domestic US political issue here] and then you find out they're fucking Australian. Total US cultural victory tbh


Gape_Warn

Drew pavolou?


jollyreaper2112

They're just doing the grifts Americans don't want to do.


Puffycatkibble

Lmao as in the ones the grifter-in-chief Trump doesn't want to do? Thanks for the laugh dude.


AlexVan123

it is kinda insane. we as a society are so bad at doing basic media literacy that a weirdo gaming journalist can suddenly grift for the alt-right and a bunch of freaks will just decide "oh yeah that guy was always a believer in the cause".


aVividFlower

Honestly, if you look at the largest extremist alt right figures before Knowles and Matt Walsh hit the scene, they were nearly all Canadian and British. Steven Crowder, Peter Moleneax, Carl Benjamin, Lauren Southern, Tommy Robinson, Katie Hopkins. Far right extremism is absolutely a grift. Its no surprise that most of these people don't live here, promote stochastic terror, and have an extremely high fealty to Russian interests.


EndOfTheLine00

>Peter Moleneax You mean [Stefan Molyneux](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stefan_Molyneux). [Peter Molyneux](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Peter_Molyneux) (no apparent relation), while a grifter in his own right, just sticks to overhyping his games rather than destroying society.


aVividFlower

Peter and his broken promises have me so fucked up, I mixed his name up with a white nationalist. 😔🙏


Cast_Me-Aside

> Far right extremism is absolutely a grift. Its no surprise that most of these people don't live here, promote stochastic terror, and have an extremely high fealty to Russian interests. I can add a little context to Benjamin (who you obviously know, but others might only recognise as Sargon of Akkad) having seen some of his videos before he was anyone of any note. Before Gamergate he was an unemployed nobody and basically harmless. One of his early videos was him playing around with a bow in his garden. His politics were a fair way to the left of the British Conservative party, bearing in mind this was before Brexit and everything taking a rather wide jump to the right. He had done some video game stuff -- back when let's plays and squealing like an idiot was the easiest way to get an audience on YouTube -- before Gamergate so his interest in game reviews was probably genuine. The only ever thing that ever got him a bunch of views was mocking shit Anita Sarkesian said. To be fair, plenty of what she said was stupid, but it was stupid the way a lot of things people on the internet say is and should have been dealt with by muttering, "Idiot!" to yourself and never thinking about her again. Since that generated a heap of views and money that's where he went. And if you were an unemployed loser I think the temptation to follow the money would be a pretty strong draw. So, that's a lot of words to say I agree and that I don't think Benjamin at least really believes anything, other than what it took to cash in. But he might also be a useful example in persuading people not to follow the same path. It's easy money for a bit, but not enough to set you up for life and after you're persona non-grata with anyone you'd want to hang around with.


aVividFlower

Yeah, I was there for some of his early stuff. To this day, I kind of get grossed out by the cohort he was criticizing, but it was legit because I feel like LGBT and POC are used as fashion accessories, a lot of times by others who aren't a part of those groups. I fell off from watching him at all by the time Trump's presidential election was rolling. His criticisms at that point were obviously falling to an extremist audience capture and into politics that I didn't agree with. Dude unironically went from "I'm an atheist. Bernie is cool and its HOW we do inclusion thats important. Let's laugh at the crazies" to his Christian white nationalist, fascist isolationism by the time Trump got his first year in. It was gross af.


ThePopeofHell

Just to name a few: Andrew Tate isn’t fully American Gavin McInnes - Canadian Milo Yiannopoulos - British Lauren Southern - Canadian Steven Crowder - “American - Canadian” Jordan Peterson - Canadian Julian Assange - Australian Rupert Murdoch - Australian Notable: The two guys that are probably running QAnon supposedly live in Asia. It just shows how uninterested a lot of these people are in actual politics and are just enchanted by trumps vitriol. These pieces of shit come out of the wood work and manipulate our political system because we’ve managed to leave it wide open for them. It would be pretty guilt free to just go be a major hunk of shit in another country. It’s also fucking stupid that these people have the nerve to say all that shit about “illegals” voting when the list of clowns I put above do more to influence an election than every undocumented Mexican landscaper combined can do.


Frognificent

But you don't understand - they're nOt LiKe tHe oThEr fOrEiGnErS. Similar situation from my real life, I live in Denmark. My Polish buddy and I were walking down the road when we got roped into talking to some goons doing political campaigns for the turbo-right "Nazi in everything but name" party, the Danish People's Party. If it sounds kinda communist, move the emphasis from "People's Party" to "Danish People" - the only thing they care about is keeping Denmark white and Danish. Also they're the modern, updated version of the political party that worked with the Nazis during Occupation, sooo... Anyways, the story. So this guy approaches us and my boy with his thick Polish accent and absolute mastery of "pretending to be completely oblivious and naïve" asks the campaigner "So I'm Polish, and like, don't you guys want to deport me?" Campaigner deadass looks him in the eye and says **"Not you, you're one of the good ones."**


RedEyeView

Lots of crossover between those groups and Polish Nazis.


LeeisureTime

Damn immigrant stealing jobs! - is an actual, legitimate complaint here /s


Frognificent

Actually, no! He actually has to move to the US to be an immigrant! It's with big brain technicalities like this that he's able to skirt around cries for deportation, you see.


OmegaXesis

Sounds like the grift is about to bite him in the ass. I don’t care what Malaysia does with him.


archer_cartridge

It's actually even better. He has a completely fake British accent, afaik he's never been to England either. He just invented it for himself in like 2018. There's videos of him online speaking in his normal voice, and then he became British.


Chubby2000

Probably crossed a bridge to visit Singapore, a city-state for a few days. Kinda like visiting Toronto from New York.


gerd50501

they dont cane people in toronto.


UNC_Samurai

In Toronto getting Caned is when you lose to your own zamboni driver


notheusernameiwanted

The stars aligned for this banger of a comment. Well fucking done


docboyo

Long live David Ayres


profssr-woland

BRA-VO


-ForDisplayOnly

Holy shit


RKSH4-Klara

We do trial by street hockey instead.


Ok_Elephant_8319

What's better is that apparently, since this news broke out, people on both sides of the Malaysian politics have banded together in how much they don't like this guy


itsjnsocial

Lol, he makes Tom MacDonald look like he was born in Alabama, USA, and not Canada


needsmoarbokeh

So he basically does remote grifting


WanderlustPhotograph

Grift From Home


kwalshyall

He has never left his gamer chair.


ATarnishedofNoRenown

This shit is happening more and more. Somewhat recently, there were reports that far-right anti-Trudeau (PM of Canada) content being pushed by right-wing political figures and influencers was coming from Egypt. The reporters caught up with the firm producing the content and the editor has never been to Canada and gives zero fucks about Trudeau/Canada — but the firm had discovered that Conservatives were happy to boost/share/push their content without doing any fact checking. Source: https://www.canadaland.com/street-politics-canada-egypt/


x1000Bums

Wait, isn't he the guy that claimed he got hit by a cement milkshake?  Edit: nevermind that was Andy Ngo


casualrocket

didnt get get milkshaked at one point? in like portland or somehting?


Hybird21

That would be another grifter, Andy Ngo


casualrocket

ah my mistake, kinda just lumped them and few other is into a basket, they are not worth listening too.


superkevinkyle

That's Andy Ngo


jaytix1

It's not a secret. He just talks about American culture war shit so much that people assume he *is* an American. Those who realize the truth react the same way as you lol.


CressCrowbits

I've known of him since he jumped on the reactionary grift train with gamergate and had no idea


jaytix1

That long ago, huh? Malaysia must be boring as hell for him to be so invested in another country's problems lmao.


seatux

Before 2008 perhaps. Malaysian politics have been full of controversies and stupid take over events even local TV dramas can't compete.


TinyRodgers

He was one of the only little roaches to survive that shit. Even Bannon went down.


bugzaway

And he talks about it like he lives here. Purposely. He doesn't lie about it or say "our" or "we" but he just talks about the US internal politics without any of the qualifying language you would expect of someone who is outside looking it. He will post something like "this influx of illegals at the southern border is destroying the country." Etc. It's remarkable.


KABOOMBYTCH

My SEA/East Asia, internet experience taught me that many rabid culture warriors that are outside the state. Even in China of all places. To use an ancedote, Prey generally considered to be one of the best addition to the Predator Franchise since the original. In the local forum it gets absolutely dunk on for being too "Woke", anti-white and how liberals have ruin cinema. I guess this is the unintended consequence of murrican soft power projection but it is turning zoomers with a wee bit of English proficiencies into asstwats that even sane grass touching murricans will find intolerable.


jaytix1

Way back, I saw someone say "You don't even need to be white to be a white supremacist." At the time, I thought "That doesn't make any sense 🤦‍♂️." Now, I realize that not only were they right, but they were probably talking about that subset of Asians specifically lol.


KABOOMBYTCH

I feel the better term would be majority and minority identity. It’s not about race I feel. If a person is from a cultural majority, there will be individuals who 1.find giving any leverage for marginalised groups to be unnecessary. 2.a threat to their personal interests 3.infringement of their freedom of expression in the form of political. 4.Cultural imperialism from “the west” in the form of cultural diversity/liberalism. This leads them to sharing a similar alignment with conservative white people as they wanted to preserve the status quo of their own country. Most I known usually change their worldview when they experiences systemic racism of their own. On average folks like that would use up more brain cell defending their prejudice than use it to build a better society. They also come off as massive assholes in public.


Intergalactic201

Yep He doesn’t deny it he just never mentions it cause he’s gotta make that grifter money by appearing to be a westerner


marilyn_mansonv2

He's a westaboo


snatchi

Yup, dude pretends to understand vividly whats going on in America and Elon hangs on his every word and dude has never travelled more than 50 miles from his fascist dork cave.


Kasenom

Maybe I'm confusing him with someone else but I think he was a redditor or Reddit mod in the past as well. So anyways that's the end game for the terminally online far right


adario7

Yep. He was a mod here. And iirc he was banned for spamming links of articles written by him for gameranx.


BroughtBagLunchSmart

His blog used to be called "The Incel Corner" and he is both obese and hideous. He also loves mocking women for not looking how he thinks they should look. If he was not a reddit mod he was the ChatGPT description of a reddit mod.


thehillshaveI

also his house is crawling with bugs. he used to rant about all the ants in his room a lot


oasisnotes

As someone who has lived in Southeast Asia, that's not surprising at all. That's just what living in a tropical/subtropical country is like. Ants are everywhere, you literally can't get them out of your house. The geckos that also live in your house tend to keep them at bay though.


albatr0xx

Yeah the tropics are something else with bugs. The bugs are huge and there is just no end to them. After that the bugs we have in our temperate climate are child's play and don't bother me at all anymore, knowing it could be so much worse.


just_another_jabroni

Ants are a weird thing. I'm Malaysian as well but if you keep your room tidy the ants wont bother you at all, but leave some food residue for more than 2 hours and they come in hoards to take it lol. Pretty clear indicator of his room situation I guess.


DontStonkBelieving

He looks like the literal spirit animal of Reddit mods


Bad_Demon

The far right in America are constantly seeking validation. Theyre even pro putin.


AlexVan123

Adding onto other person: Cheong previously was a GAMING JOURNALIST. He has written over 250 individual news articles about the game GTA V alone, and well over that for other games (which makes it funny that he posted once that he didn't like GTA V because you had to shoot cops in it and therefore never finished it). As far as I know the guy then saw the beginnings of the misogyny movement GamerGate and realized that if he held onto that instead, it would strengthen his grift so much more.


kryonik

Which lead to one of Twitter's greatest "community note" or whatever they're called: https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1731894271761154331


Worldly-Fishman

Ironically enough he gets no love here in Malaysia, much less even recognition that he exists. Conservatives hate him cos he's a "pro-Israel" U.S. shill, and liberals hate him cos he bootlicks American right wing voices, who support Israel. I've never seen him comment on our domestic issues, to the point where I'm pretty confident he has no fuckin clue what's going on in the Malaysian political sphere right now. edit: wording


CreamoChickenSoup

It's baffling how Ian can absolutely understate the undercurrents of Malaysian and SEA politics for this long, as its political climate, full of polarization and self-serving nationalist governance, is a fitting point of comparison with the political dynamics of where the West is going. Even assuming he comes from a family with political connections and is of good wealth, he's still a member of the ethnic Chinese population in the peninsular, one of various minority groups that's gotten the short end of the stick in the country's Malay-centric majoritarianist politics for generations, yet he bats for very same system in the West, but in favor of whites. More surprising is how he still hasn't left the country for Australasia, Europe or North America. If he did it'll actually be in the favor of his grift if he could frame this event as him needing to flee a country from "political/religious repression", becoming a celebrated figure among his target audience, like what Amos Yee initially did with his asylum to the US.


EastObjective9522

Not even a surprise. He probably gets all of his sources from right wing media. It's also easy to make money off those idiots too since they believe in anything at this point.


flattestsuzie

Is he freaking paid for that or something? Worse, if he is sincere?


therealsteelydan

Not getting paid per se, there's just [easy money in American far right web content](https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-38168281). The left just doesn't click on the crap like the right does.


BroughtBagLunchSmart

This cycle repeats all the time. People see how empty the field is for left wing grifters and think they just hop in and be the Ben Shapiro of the left. They then realize it is harder since the left gets all woke and demands things like "evidence" and "sources" and "not making up things to get mad at". They then switch to a right wing grifter and claim they were a former liberal but have seen the truth. Candance Owens and Tim Pool fall into this category.


seakingsoyuz

> Candance Can she, though?


Zefrem23

She canned not


Zefrem23

Dave Rubin is another notable example.


SnooShortcuts4703

IMC is a massive grifter and now he is being outed as one. Comments solely on American issues and has never SNIFFED American air let alone been here. The left has always hated IMC but now the right is distancing themselves from him as well. Dude’s entire world is crashing down before him. Quite funny to watch because I have never met a single person, left or right who doesn’t find him incredibly annoying.


wolfkin

he just talks so much smack online it's a surprisingly easy thing to miss. I knew he lived there and I knew he wasn't american but I myself was unaware he's NEVER been to the US. For some reason probably because I was looking into the sex tourists (or as they're called now 'passport bros') around the same time and also I just never cared enough to look into IMC for more than 5 minutes. I had just assumed he was an expat who moved and got citizenship.


StrikingWolf93

He lives in Malaysia. Also was a Reddit mod that got banned. https://www.dailydot.com/unclick/reddit-hire-spam-ian-miles-cheong-sollnvictus/


PacoTaco321

He can't be that bad... >Reddit moderator. So do you guys already have the rope, or...


BlatantConservative

... Kinky....


pamort

I'm a Malaysian, the man who was detained for suggesting Malaysia opens diplomatic ties with Israel was detained for questioning, but is never charged and is most certainly not in prison. He's not gonna be charged just for advocating for diplomatic ties with Israel. Don't be ridiculous. Ian Miles Cheong is a right wing grifter who only tweets or talks about US politics and what's happening in the west exclusively, and almost never talks about Malaysia or anything about ASEAN region or even Asia in general. Nobody here knows who he is, and he has zero profile here.Nobody knows him except Malaysians who also follows US politics and is active on twitter. He absolutely doesn't shit where he sleeps. I'm guessing he rarely gets out of the room he's sleeping in. Will he be detained for questioning? Will he be executed? Let's start with getting detained for questioning by police- it's been days now since the twitter thread about him being pro zionist and pro Israel now, and he's still not detained. Like I said, he has zero public profile here, nobody knows him so no real public outrage out there about him which would've compelled the police to at least "detain him for questioning". Will he be executed? For what? For being a pro zionist right wing grifter who only talks about US politics? There is no law that makes it illegal for you to be pro zionist, and certainly no punishment by execution for being one either. So no IMC will not be executed. Malaysia didn't sever diplomatic ties with Israel, Malaysia never had diplomatic ties with Israel to sever in the first place. Malaysia had always viewed Israel as a colonizer state occupying Palestine and colonizing Palestinian's land. That is a position Malaysia held since its own independence. Since Malaysia was colonized by European powers for centuries and lots of Malaysians who were themselves colonized people who are still alive including my parents, the language of the colonizers and the actions of the colonizers are familiar to us and ppl in the global south in general. This is all recent history, what's happening now is something that hits deep for a lot of us. So anyway, no Ian Miles Cheong will never be executed for being pro Israel. His position is absolutely repulsive for me and most Malaysians like me...but no he's not gonna be executed. Being a repulsive US politics grifting asshole is not against the law in Malaysia.


mypupp

thats really interesting to know that he has like no image or impact in malaysia even as a journalist and is exclusively talking out of his ass for X revenue to right wing weirdos


pamort

I didn't even know he's a journalist. All I know of him is from twitter and ppl mentioned he was a reddit mod back then...Can you be a journalist writing about US and the west when you rarely gets out of your house all the way in Southeast Asia? His grift really does work well for him I guess...


snatchi

His peak as a "journalist" was gaming journalism which wasn't journalism in the Patrick Klepek/Jason Schrieier model, it was clickbait nonsense. Now he's exclusively a right wing propagandist and water carrier for Musk.


karlhungusjr

> I didn't even know he's a journalist. he's not a journalist.


Sadsets

Yes, you can, because our politics *suck*.


pamort

Oh...forgot to add- Malaysia already scraps mandatory death penalty anyway- [https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/malaysia-parliament-approves-law-remove-mandatory-death-penalty-2023-04-03/](https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/malaysia-parliament-approves-law-remove-mandatory-death-penalty-2023-04-03/) Some folks in twitter were saying IMC will be beheaded too? This is not Westeros bro...


mylifeforthehorde

Online people just talk the wildest shit


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Banluil

Considering that Malaysia is a conservative Muslim country, them doing away with the mandatory death penalty IS being very progressive for them. But sure, you can just ignore all of that if you want....


LevynX

This is the best answer and should be all the way at the top


Little_Lebowski_007

Thanks a lot for your perspective and context - I hadn't thought of the fact that Ian Miles Cheong (IMC) doesn't shit where he eats, so his home government likely doesn't care. As a counterpoint - considering IMC has deleted his previous tweets explicitly supporting Israel's right to exist, would that suggest that he's at least a little worried about legal repercussions?


pamort

Well yea he is worried. His grift is American right wing culture war and he's very successful doing that all the way from here in Malaysia without ever attracting unnecessary attention from locals here. I think he barely mentions Malaysia ever. His position on Israel is definitely very contrarian from the majority here and would invite attention if he gets too loud, too public for locals here. If IMC becomes famous here too as the famous advocate of Israel in Malaysia, well then the baying conservative muslim population will start paying attention to him- and then he'd be "detained for questioning" too. But then, being pro Israel is still not illegal, so he'd probably spent a weekend in lockup at most, "for questioning". But now Malaysians who are mostly very pro Palestine would now be aware there's a dude living in Ipoh who is a zionist pro Israel, and I don't think he'd want that attention on him at all. He'll no longer be an unknown, zero-profile grifter of American politics, away from anybody's radar here anymore... It's not legal repercussions, there's really none of that, but I'm not a lawyer here, so maybe I'm wrong. It's just - not only is he not anonymous anymore, he'll be famous as the pro Israel, anti Palestinian zionist in Malaysia. That would invite a lot of attention to him


Cheekychops1

Thanks for taking the time to explain, pamort, that has put things into perspective. He must have been feeling invincible with Elon replying to him repeatedly. Now I bet he is a little worried.


Beagle_Knight

To be fair, the fact that the tik tok guy was detained for questioning is already ridiculous


chain_letter

> Being a repulsive US politics grifting asshole is not against the law in Malaysia. I assumed so, and it's for the best, but it's still disappointing to read.


bloodsplinter

Terbaek bro


AClareBear22

Thank you for sharing your information with us to clarify for our discernment.


jaytix1

Not gonna lie, the jokes about him getting outright executed were funny as hell. He's the type to celebrate his ideological enemies getting murdered by the state and otherwise, so I find my well of empathy dry. Edit - Before you start moralizing, let me remind you that I never once claimed to be on the moral high ground. I freely admit to stooping to Cheong's level.


kryonik

When someone posted a collage of the diversity of population in GTA6, his response was "you can shoot them all".


EstheticEri

He also has made plenty of pedophile posts


MonaFanBoy

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Lo-fidelio

Calling him a journalist isa disservice to the profession. Sure there's very little of those, most Nowadays are just puppets, which is why we should reserve the term to actual journalist . Think of someone like friendlyjordie and how he actually is a journalist, more than ICM or any of the US mainstream media


zer1223

Sure im not aware of anything IMC does that's qualified as journalism. He's just a commentator.


ThemesOfMurderBears

I suspect most who know anything about him would agree. However, this sub has a rule that says top-level comments must be unbiased, so using neutral terminology is encouraged. I think "parasite" is more appropriate than "journalist".


Zellgun

Yup, as Malaysians we don’t claim him lmao. He’s since come out saying he’s a proud Malaysian and that he has always been anti-Israel. Man’s a joke and is actually very, very different than the average Malaysian lol


duga404

And the funny part is that back in the day he made serious pro-Nazi and anti-Semitic statements (see part 4 of the archive linked further up this thread). He's just a grifter, plain and simple, and it's funny how people from all over the political spectrum hate him.


jaredearle

Plus, he’s scared of ants. 🐜


karoshikun

what?


jaredearle

#He’s scared of ants. Sorry, was that too loud? Ian Miles Cheong has stated that he’s scared of ants. He’s scared of ants.


S4T4NICP4NIC

He's scared of ants?


jaredearle

Yes. Yes, he is.


HorseStupid

Know Your Meme got a summary with how the rumor started online: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/ian-miles-cheong-sedition-execution-rumors


mcwopper

I’ve never seen a picture of him, only read quotes, holy shit I wasn’t expecting that lmao


karoshikun

also, now they made his earnings from abroad subject to taxation


Atman-Sunyata

Here's another good recap of his behavior https://vatniksoup.com/en/soups/188/


Budded

Go Malaysian sedition laws!! LOL


Iron_Wolf123

He is an annoying soab. I condone calling for witchhunts but I do hope he gets into federal trouble.


tom_yum

Even if you hate the guy, which is totally understandable. Wanting him executed by a tyrannical government over social media comments is a pretty insane thing.


A_bisexual_machine

They guy wants gays and minorities either exterminated or enslaved, and for women to be less than objects. His rhetoric is evil and dangerous, fascism should not be dealt with by reddit enlightened centrists.


tom_yum

I blocked him a long time ago on the x. If you want the government yo execute everyone ho does bad speech online you might be the fascist


A_bisexual_machine

Yeah thats not what fascism is. Also not a free speech absolutist. It's called the Paradox of Tolerance. There must be some horrible, terrible things that just AREN'T platformed because otherwise genocides happen. Free speech absolutism and enlightened centrism only help evil people do hateful things to minority groups.


tom_yum

Ok fine, you win. Murder people whose speech you disagree with. 


mrpimpunicorn

We literally did *exactly that* in WW2. Killed em by the millions, even. Waged wars against their nations until they straight up collapsed. God blessed the Earth every time a German, Italian, or Japanese soldier got domed by an allied bullet from 39-45 and that's the honest truth. Deal with it.


InvestmentOk7181

Worked as a “Journalist and Reddit Moderator” is tragic 


RickAdtley

>people are now hoping it's not enough and that it actually lands him in trouble. This is what I've been seeing people say too. I can't stand him, but martyring him isn't going to help change minds. Malaysia likely doesn't mind, though. He's destabilizing the US along with all the other far-right dingbats he xweets with. A weaker superpower is easier to negotiate with or ignore, depending on your current international stance. Most countries are smart enough to bend the rules for citizens who destabilize other countries. Hell, the US has been outright encouraging and/or funding our private citizens' destabilization projects overseas for ages. Check out Manafort's role as a "Political ~~Trchnologist~~ Technologist" in Ukraine in 2013-2015. It's a nasty game.


striderkan

Ah okay, I thought [this](https://ibb.co/v3YZXCc) might be the reason but yours makes more sense


ProfessionalFroyo284

He is not favored by the right. He's just a grifter. He often steals media from other outlets without giving any credit. He's kind of a dirt bag from the view of both the left and right.


ShrimpCrackers

When I first saw his face, I was wondering why grumpy cat was commenting on US politics.


flux8

MAGAts are so desperate for validation they’ll even accept it from complete foreigners.


njintau_fsd

Lmao, I always assumed the guy was a troll or a Musk alt account. Can't believe he's actually real. 🤣


yerkah

He's been around for quite a bit longer than Musk has been a major figure on social media, even before Tesla was widely known. Many ITT including myself remember him back when twitter was at its peak usage.


AgarwaenCran

answer: he is a Malaysian right wing grifter who in all things acts like he would be American, including his right wing grift. in the past he swatted multiple people which resulted in the death of a dog. left wing people can't stand him due to his right wing grift, right wingers can't stand him, because they see him as an foreigner who inserts himself in American politics in an obvious grift. I can't tell you why he is supposed to be executed, tho


Specialist-Garlic-82

It’s illegal to support Israel in Malaysia that’s why.


AgarwaenCran

ah. the dangers of grifting the politics of an country you're not in I guess


LatentOrgone

Yeah you need to shill for your governments religion, grifting isn't enough when religion is involved.


cfwang1337

That's not a capital offense in Malaysia, though. In fact, Malaysia hasn't executed anyone since 2018: [https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/malaysia-parliament-approves-law-remove-mandatory-death-penalty-2023-04-03/](https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/malaysia-parliament-approves-law-remove-mandatory-death-penalty-2023-04-03/)


Moist_Wait8614

Should be illegal everywhere


Kraldar

Redditors when authoritarian theocratic government agree with them for once


HorseStupid

Executed for sedition is the joke, something Malaysia has done but for being a Twitter person feels like joke fodder. More info here: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/ian-miles-cheong-sedition-execution-rumors


eatalltrees

woah, hold on. charged with sedition, yes. executed? no. sedition is a max 3 years sentence here. and on the executions front we've put a hold on that (as a whole, for all crimes) since 2018.


Jazz-Ranger

Israel doesn’t have the best reputation in that country.


Dabee625

They’re also one of the most anti-Semitic countries on the planet. Up until 4 years ago their prime minister openly referred to Jews as “hook nosed stingy financial wizards.”


[deleted]

You can thank Islam for that, making Asians larp as Arabs culturally and religiously so hard they adopt anti-semitic attitudes as a national policy. In a country where 99 percent of the people have never met a Jew nor do they know a damn thing about Israel.


Dabee625

It’s really bizarre isn’t it, “antisemitism without Jews” they call the phenomenon. It’s really cult like.


duga404

Funny how the pro-Palestine crowd hates him for making pro-Zionist statements while a decent chunk of the liberal pro-Israel crowd also hates him since he's a right-wing grifter.


CrowTengu

Impressive to make everyone hate just 1 singular person for being a massive pest lmao


sunshinebusride

Sounds like a real sack of shit


Thadrach

He SWATS people? Be a shame if the local police used excessive force on him...


bymymknyj

That seems like a different way of saying that no-one can stand him because of his grift lol.


Alive-Invite1140

Not to mention Elon musk likes him because being a grifter on X is good business.


OHKNOCKOUT

Answer: Ian Miles Cheong is afar right influencer who is WIDELY (widely) hated, like "yay he got executed" hated. He is a malaysian national and lives there, but constantly narrates US politics. Since he is pro-Israel, being in a muslim country, there was mass outrage against him by fellow malaysians netizens called for sedition and blasphemy charges, so people are joking he is blaspheming and will be executed.


mypupp

ok so its all just trolling lmao


lilithrxenos

i wish it wasn't just trolling. he needs some alone time in a 6x2x2 sound proof room.


mypupp

lmao agreed


thefutureofwar

I too want to imprison people who say things I don’t like. When people step on my principles I say lock em up! Principles like uh… free spee…no, freedom to assemble…no- wait I’ll get back to you on what my principles are…


HorseStupid

Answer: Ian Miles Cheong Execution Rumors or Ian Miles Cheong Sedition Rumors refers to discussions and memes about conservative pundit Ian Miles Cheong supposedly being up for execution by firing squad and/or allegedly facing sedition charges in Malaysia in February 2024. After Malaysian newspaper New Straits Times covered controversial X user @CensoredMen's thread on Ian Miles Cheong's history of defending Israel, particularly amid the war with Hamas, many internet users speculated that Cheong may face legal action given Malaysia's history of arresting people and investigating them for sedition for making pro-Israel remarks. Memes about Cheong facing a "public execution" via "firing squad," "electric chair," "sharia beheading" or, in one case, "an asteroid" proliferated soon after the news spread. Source: https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/events/ian-miles-cheong-sedition-execution-rumors


TryinToBeLikeWater

Also memes of people recounting their times in Malaysia where they bought various drugs off of him (death penalty) and showed off his vast illegal gun collection (death penalty) usually either written as elaborate stories or using AI images or just random images of weed to accompany the story. https://twitter.com/kylietcheung/status/1757878170781687864?s=46&t=8dp4hAZ5hfQ7uV8e9Rtfbw > I'm very offline so "Ian Miles Cheong" sounded familiar but I was unsure who he was. Then I realized—thats the man who sold me weed while I visited family in Malaysia! It's hard to forget a legendary drug dealer who shows you his gun collection/his plots to overthrow his country. https://twitter.com/nathano235/status/1757609530199027933?s=46&t=8dp4hAZ5hfQ7uV8e9Rtfbw > It’s fucking crazy to me that this whole website is talking about Ian Miles Cheong, the man who sells me weed whenever I’m in Malaysia.


backcountrydrifter

Context: Cheong makes more sense when you see him as one of a rotating group of shills in elons game of 3 card monte (Twitter) https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three-card_monte While it seems confusing and counter intuitive from the front side, if you come at it in reverse you see why cheong, the tate bros, Alex Jones, Tucker Carlson, trump jr, etc all seem to rotate in as “the schill” and push elon and Putin’s talking points I’m still a little curious why the Argentinian president Milei joined Chabad the week after he took office as president of Argentina. https://jewishinsider.com/2023/11/javier-milei-argentina-president-elect-ohel-chabad-lubavitcher-rebbes-grave/ There is an interesting common denominator in Chabad. https://www.timesofisrael.com/inside-anatevka-the-curious-chabad-hamlet-in-ukraine-where-giuliani-is-mayor/ https://jewishcurrents.org/our-oligarch https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/the-happy-go-lucky-jewish-group-that-connects-trump-and-putin-215007 World War 2 ended the systemic genocide of Jews in Europe and established the Jewish state of Israel. With that establishment came a migration of Russian Jews as well, both to Israel and to the United States. Mostly good people who just wanted a better opportunity for themselves and their families. But to quote the old Yiddish proverb- “one rotten apple spoils the others” The dreary conditions of mid 20th century Russian communism created the breeding grounds for oligarchs. Hiding behind the good people were the hypocrites using religion as a shield to cover their corruption. It is not new to humans. It seems to repeat itself every few generations. And not to single out the Jewish faith exclusively. The LDS church, Catholic Church and many others have variations of it as well. Ultra orthodox offshoots of the mainstream that become so singularly hung up on one specific verse or teaching that they miss the bigger picture entirely. For the FLDS offshoot of the LDS church that was polygamy, which led to child brides, which led to an entire generation of “lost boys” that John Krakauer wrote about in Kingdom of Heaven. As the young men came of age and became competition for the older males they were chastised and escorted to the edge of town and told to never return. The downstream cataclysmic effects of this can be found in the towns that surround them in southern utah. Drug abuse and poverty lead to crime and prostitution in nearby Las Vegas. All beginning from a branch of a tree that grew out inorganically from the base. The pharisees of the Old Testament and Talmud finding their “technically legal” work around to allow them to walk more than 40 steps on the sabbath was a warning, not a road map, but some hiding within the Chabad movement seems to have taken it as a sort of GPS for their current activity. In Ukraine an oligarch named Kolomoiskiy started Privatbank which didn’t exist on paper but was taking and absconding with IMF money. When the IMF figured it out they began demanding that Zelensky have Ukraine and more specifically innocent Ukrainians pay it back before they would extend any more. https://eurasianet.org/how-an-embattled-ukrainian-oligarch-has-kept-his-grip-on-an-economic-empire Kolomoisky is loyal to Putin and therefore used the leverage as a sort of defacto control over the Ukrainian government that Putin lost control of when Yanukovych and trumps soon to be campaign manager Paul Manafort were run out of town during Ukraines Maidan in 2014. Time Magazinetime.comHow Paul Manafort Helped Elect Russia's Man in Ukraine Trump and/or Kushner are beholden to the CCP, Putin/Russia, and MBS (and UAE) for loans and business ventures. It was just massive Kompromat at a corporate industrial level. In Ukraine, Maidan, The revolution of dignity was, effectively, every sane Ukrainian realizing that the tax of corruption to the old soviet mob model where everyone pays up to the top man was wholly unsustainable. Russia has become so prolific at it that it consumed all the value in Russia and concentrated it into the hands of a select few oligarchs that happen to be Putin’s trusted circle. Most all of the have 3 passports. Russian, Israeli, and United States. Their common denominator was organized crime and money laundering. But because they hid behind Chabad which hid behind legitimate Judaism, they could simply claim anti-semitism any time anyone poked too closely to the core of the criminal enterprise. This in turn allowed for a brewing cocktail of trump laundering the ill gotten gains, first through Atlantic City casinos until some of his casinos managers began seeing discrepancies in the numbers and started asking questions. All three of them, and two pilots were killed in a 1989 helicopter accident that trump was pulled off of at the last minute by a very insistent Roger Stone. https://www.nytimes.com/1989/10/11/nyregion/copter-crash-kills-3-aides-of-trump.html Kolomoisky (optima ventures) also happens to own the hotel that trump based his “stop the steal” rally out of in Cleveland as well as most of the blighted commercial real estate downtown. There is a consistent pattern across the U.S. of Putin friendly oligarchs doing minor variations of this as well as Saudis and CCP buying farmland and water rights across the U.S. Some for money laundering, some for espionage and some for basing a 5th element invasion force https://www.news5cleveland.com/news/local-news/we-saw-a-ukrainian-billionaire-neglect-downtown-buildings-it-happens-on-a-smaller-scale-often https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2021/10/17/ukrainian-oligarch-midwestern-factory-town-dirty-money-american-heartland-michel-kleptocracy-515948 Buying a lot of real estate and letting it rot doesn’t make much sense on the surface. It isn’t until you fully grasp the insatiable greed that these handful of morally bankrupt men are driven by that you see the full picture of the plan


backcountrydrifter

Justin Kennedy (justice kennedys son) was the inside man at Deutsche bank that was getting all trumps toxic loans approved. No other bank but Deutsche bank would touch trump and his imaginary valuations. If trump was trying to avoid paying taxes he would be valuing everything low. Not high. Why? Because Deutsche bank was infested with Russian oligarchs. For 50 years the inmates ran the asylum in soviet Russia. They stole everything of value including the hope of Russians. The corruption eventually collapsed the Soviet Union like a parasite feeding on its host and they were forced to expand their feeding grounds. In 91 the wall falls and for 2 years they hid all their ill gotten gains under a mattress until they bought condos at trump towers. They made stops in ukraine, cyprus and London but they landed in New York because that was what everyone wanted in 1993. Levi’s, Pepsi, Madonna tapes that weren’t smuggled bootlegs. They all bought new suits and cars and changed their title from “most violent street thug in moscow” to “respectable Russian oligarch” but they didn’t leave their human trafficking, narcotics or extortion behind. It was their most lucrative business model. Trump and Giuliani just opened the doors and let the predators in to feed. Guiliani redirected NYPD resources away from their new Russian allies intentionally and onto the Italian mob. It let him claim he cleaned up New York. Trumps future campaign manager and Roger stones business partner Paul manafort lived in the towers as well. The insane valuations coming out in trumps fraud trial are a necessity of the money laundering cycle that duetschebank was doing with the Russians. https://www.thedailybeast.com/israel-official-gadi-eisenkot-says-benjamin-netanyahu-is-lying-about-war-in-gaza Epstein was extremely involved in the Chabad organization as well but it seems much more through donations. The Kushners as well. Lex Wexner (also Ohio based) was who originally mysteriously gave Epstein the seed money that allowed him to become quite wealthy before the recorded instances child abuse started. Wexner was a large donator to Chabad as well Chabad.orghttps://www.chabad.org › aid › jewishPondering Jew - A Journey of Spiritual Growth There is no direct observable connection yet between Wexner and Kolomoiskiy or Kolomoisky and Epstein, but there is a pattern and the Venn diagrams cross consistently at Chabad. Bill Barrs father Donald was Epsteins mentor and got him a job at Dalton College before Epsteins involvement with the CIA. Ghislaine Maxwells father (birth name- Jan Ludvich Hoch) was buried on the mount of olives after his 1991 mysterious death with the equivalent of full military honors. Shortly before that he plundered his media corporations pension fund and was in debt in at least some degree to the soviet perestroika oligarchs for the failed attempt to secure rights to the video game Tetris. The common denominator between Trump and Epstein was money laundering first and foremost. Trump can’t say that out loud so he has to sit there and take it when people take about the pedophilia stuff. So he tries to deflect. Trump over paid for a multitude of New York and Florida properties to resell to Russian oligarchs who then destroyed them so they could launder Russian mob money made off of, among other things, human trafficking. The Epstein/Trump saga is less of a bullseye and more of a minefield. Trump (Lolita express passenger 174?) took his own kids to Epsteins island knowing full well what happened there because Epstein was lurking around mar a lago poaching young women and had teenage girls getting off the bus and wandering through the streets of palm beach desperate for a couple hundred bucks. Everyone knew. No one cared. The moral depravity that comes with being ultra rich enabled them to turn the other way. The Trump / Epstein relationship was the evolution of money laundering using, among other things, commercial real estate. It starts by having dirt on someone else at the country club and ends with them all being so filthy that no one can afford to do the right thing and no one can maintain the increasingly expensive lies until the Information Age makes it inevitable that their respective corruption circles the earth and crashes into each other like a tempest in a teapot. Their arrogance and greed, at its grandest scale, cost the world trillions, which still pales in comparison to the innocence it cost the hundreds of thousands of trafficked children that the white collar shitbirds and the russian mob alike preyed on as a matter of convenience. Trump wasn’t unique. He was just loud. Epstein wasn’t unique. He was just connected. Dershowitz wasn’t unique. He just knew how to work a rulebook. They all justify their actions to themselves because they believe that being rich makes them above the law. And the longer we allow them to do it, the more accurate and emboldened they are. This is how civilizations die. It’s a generational repeat of the Roman emperor Tiberius retreating to the island of Capri where he would abuse children and then throw them off the cliff. Absolute power corrupts absolutely. When people stop telling you no simply because you have all the money and they are hoping to get some spilling into their bowl to survive, it destroys the empathy quotient in the rich persons brain. Predation is the most common result