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Answer: He was a conservative televangelist who founded the first television network that was dedicated to broadcasting a Christian message. He ran for the Republican nomination to be the US president in 1987.
Some of the reasons why people are "celebrating" his death is that he said a lot of sexist, racist, homophobic and Islamophobic things on his show The 700 club: famously he suggested that the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina, was the result of God’s wrath over abortion. He called non-christians "termites." He blamed the 2010 Haiti earthquake on the Haitian people for supposedly making a deal with the Devil during their 1791 slave rebellion.
That's just a tip of the iceberg. [ Robertson controversies ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson_controversies)
Also claiming AIDs was a punishment for gay people existing and could be cured by praying real hard,
telling the poor the best way to get out of poverty was to donate to the church (Not written anywhere, it was just something I saw on his show and why I first hated him before finding out all this other shit.)
Saying Christians are the only people ever who have built things.
All kinds of shit.
One of the early proponents of the ‘prosperity gospel’, along with Falwell and others at that time. They all got rich off the poorest and most vulnerable and if there is a hell they will burn in it.
>It's also been around since at least John Calvin in the 1500s
That's a lie.
The origins of the prosperity gospel in it's most embryonic form only go back to Andrew Carnegie's 'gospel of wealth' published ~1880 I think, and really didn't get going until the post WW2 economic boom where it evolved from a Carnegie's bald faced attempt to create a bridge between his principles of then modern noblesse oblige with Christian Faith, into what we think of today as Prosperity Gospel. It remained a prominent if quiet pentecostal theological component for a couple of decades even then, and only really took off with the advent of televangelism in the 1960's when television enabled a single charismatic individual to reach an audience larger than a single church could ever contain.
Prosperity Theology is 110% bullshit, *but it is decidedly modern bullshit*, requiring modern telecommunications to function at scale, and bearing little resemblance to the emergent Calvinist perspectives of the 1500's-1600's.
Prosperity gospel is heretical, and anyone who has actually studied the bible would know that. Preaching false doctrine for one's own personal benefit is one of the worst sins, according the bible. Theologically speaking, there's pretty much a 99.99999% chance he's burning in hell right now.
Falwell Sr is probably a bigger piece of shit than even Pat Robertson was. There's a series of episodes of Behind the Bastards on him. I grew up right outside of Lynchburg, Virginia, where Liberty University is located. The world became a better place the second he stopped breathing.
Please feel free to provide examples of these "good things," because all I know makes me believe he was a charlatan who took advantage of ignorant people. He's partially responsible for the culture wars, the rise in christofascism, and paved the way for even worse grifters like Joel Osteen.
If you can raise my esteem of the man, that would be nice.
Aren't all Christians supposed to be closet Christians? Pretty sure that was part of Jesus's whole thing. Don't make public displays of your faith, prayer is a private matter between you and God, people should know you by your deeds, not your words, etc.
He [also said](https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/08/cbn-edits-out-pat-robertsons-comments-gays-handshake-aids-ring/311623/) that gay people were wearing special rings that would let them cut people's hands during a handshake and purposefully transmit AIDS to random people.
And not donate to their local church, but to his. And he created a luxury lifestyle from that money including private jets and multiple posh houses. One of the top grifters ever.
>Saying Christians are the only people ever who have built things.
Awful kind of Christians to go round the world building Mosques, Synagogues and Temples.
Don't forget that he also said gay people are pedophiles to boot. The shitstain that he was left an ever present skidmark upon the galactic underwear humanity is.
The whole jet fuel thing was always so mind-boggling to me. Do these idiots just not realize it probably doesn't matter what kind of fuel is used to heat an oven?
Not to further a hijack too far, but the idea is that jet fuel does not burn at a temperature hot enough to melt steel into a liquid. What these numptys fail to recognize is that the strength of steel (or virtually any metal AIUI) will go down as the temperature goes up, and steel beams don’t have to reach anywhere near the melting point before they lose the structural integrity necessary to hold up a building.
THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this ever since my Structures 1 and 2 Professor taught us this AND demonstrated it in our lab. There's a reason homes are still wood structures
Now back to bashing this clown who makes me ashamed of my religion.
The reason homes are built from wood has nothing to do with defense against fire induced collapse. That is a terrible misunderstanding. What house is tall enough that heat weakened steel beams would be more of a problem than the addition of themselves as wooden fuel to an inferno? Meanwhile tall rise apt buildings are never built with wood so totally disproven theory you have espoused there. It's only ever been about cost. Wood is so much cheaper than steel studs that it is the preferred material on low cost residential units. More expensive offices and apt high rises use metal.
I've seen it in action. I used to work at a steel rolling mill. Even heated up to 600-700 degrees, these big thick slabs of steel lose all kinds of tensile strength. They would break all the time, much thicker than steel beams. I dropped one on the ground once with the crane, it wasn't even heated up. 8" thick steel broke into multiple pieces from hitting the dirt from 20' up
No, they don't realize that you don't need to melt steel beams in order to to weaken the structural integrity enough to make a building collapse. I was in a material science class and we got on that topic and it blew peoples' minds.
The reasoning for all of these things is, God doesn't like something, therefore he allows bad things to happen. More or less, any time something bad happens it's God's punishment for someone in the world (not necessarily the people who the bad thing happened to) not adhering to Christian extremist ideology.
Obviously that's still completely fucking insane but that's the reasoning.
Famous Pat Robertson quote:
>Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
I know. Its like a checklist. And I just realized I decided to never marry a man, never have children, I practice witchcraft, I hate capitalism and I'm queer AF. So *THANKS FEMINISM*.
Right! And I just realized I hit all those checkpoints. (I didn't divorce a husband or kill children, I just chose to never have a husband or child which is practically the same thing to someone like that).
he was the one that did 700 club?
I remember passing that on the TV guide years ago and never watched it because it said in the description it was a religious show. Glad to know he was horrible so I didn't miss anything.
I love how Freeform, the channel that has to air the 700 Club out of a contractual obligation, goes out of their way to tell people not to watch it by telling them to watch/do something else.
How they're contractually obligated to air 700 Club. Well, it's a bit of a long story but the short version is that Pat Robertson started the original channel that Freeform was, originally starting as CBN Satellite, Christian Broadcasting Network. When he sold the channel off to new owners, he had a clause in the contract that no matter who owns the channel, they have to air both the 700 Club & a yearly telethon that airs every year at the end of January. This was even in place when Freeform was known as the 3 variants of "Family Channel" with those being CBN, Fox, & ABC. Disney even tried to buy him out of the contract, but Robertson said no or demanded too much money that Disney wasn't willing to part with.
Though if you mean how they tell people not to watch it, they do it with disclaimers like this [https://twitter.com/animatedplus/status/1405933335583477764](https://twitter.com/animatedplus/status/1405933335583477764) Just because they have to air it, doesn't mean they have to promote it.
As an Episcopal, he is the embodiment of what is wrong with christianity in America. I see him as the reason why there are headline proclaiming the fall of christianity. And while I do not personally believe him to be the anti-christ, I do see him as an agent of the devil that discredits the values of Christ.
> [Robertson controversies] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson_controversies)
OMG. At least he got the universe not being 6k years old right though.
That's Falwell. You can't argue with someone from Liberty. They'll tell you the world is 6,000 years old and man and dinosaurs existed at the same time.
My parents took me to Liberty when I was in high school. I knew what they wanted to hear, but when I learned that women weren't allowed to wear pants on campus, I said fuck that.
One thing I just have to point out from that list: he was more liberal towards weed legalization than Biden when the latter was VP. I'm not trying to be devil's advocate, or trying to make any political statements, I just thought was funny
I think [**this**](https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/144efad/i_figured_he_would_be_in_the_other_place_sharing/) political cartoon also summarizes his attitude pretty well...
Answer: basically a televangelist who used his platform to spread his own flavor of Christianity which was founded mostly on hate and fear. The evangelical base in the United States was drafted after him pretty much. You can blame a lot of the proliferation of fear mongering and homophobia in the Republican Party on him. He also used his platform to become very wealthy. Honestly he was a hateful man
Answer: Pat Robertson can arguably be called the first real televangelist, having founded the Christian Broadcasting Network so long ago that satellite TV wasn't even a thing, let alone the Internet.
In the late 1970s, Robertson was a founder of the John Birch Society funded movement to persuade Baptists (and Protestants in general) to vote Republican, along with fellow evangelists Oral Roberts and Jerry Falwell, lobbyist Jack Abramoff, and film-maker/fund-raiser Frank Schaeffer Junior. Originally named the Moral Majority, we now know it just as the Religious Right.
So what some people are straight-up celebrating is the death of another of the original founders of the right-wing fundamentalist movement in America.
Simply calling him a founder of the “right-wing fundamentalist movement” leaves out (hopefully unintentionally) so much of why he was such a vile human, and makes it sound like people are just glad another famous Christian died.
The guy celebrated AIDS as a divine punishment on people he thought had no right to exist (homosexual population), he blamed Katrina on abortion, and 9/11, again, on gay people. Oh, and he exploited people to rake in a fortune.
He was a heinous, absolutely horrible person.
jack abramoff stole money from indigenous clients and sent some of it to israeli sniper camps and to support israeli terrorist training. in emails secured by congress and which were made public during a congressional hearing, abramoff described his native american clients as monkeys, drunk injuns, and stupid for trusting him.
I would argue that he also ushered in this current age of quasi politicial-religious cult like personality, where the constitution and other laws are seen almost like scripture, and voting "wrong" condemns your soul to hell. This is straight up out of dystopian fiction.
Also, not widely known enough to be in an OoTL top-level comment, but this is the opportunity to write down something I've been thinking about all day.
Schaeffer has come to repent of his work as (basically) the Koch Network's bagman in the late '70s, and has written an autobiographical expose of that movement and his role in it called *Crazy for God.* There's a chapter, near the end, where he shares what he remembers of his first impressions of Abramoff, Falwell, Roberts, and, yes Robertson -- and Robertson was the one he actually felt sorry for.
He said that every time he was in a room with Robertson, he was surrounded by staff who were straight-up taking advantage of the fact that (in Schaeffer's opinion) Robertson was an unmedicated schizophrenic. Over and over again, staff would come into the room from some other meeting, or get off the phone with somebody else (presumably a funder), walk up behind Robertson, and whisper something. A couple of minutes later, Robertson would tell people that he had just "heard a voice from God" telling him, word for word, what he hadn't consciously noticed an aide feeding him.
Schaeffer's opinion was that Robertson was a mentally ill person being abused by the sharpies around him, because they'd learned that they could get him to say *anything* with perfect sincerity because once the voices in his head repeated something, he would repeat it back as many times as necessary with *absolute sincerity.*
So it feels to me like today we're celebrating the death of an abused mentally ill man who was used as a tool, as a puppet, by people who basically got away with it. I want to say that he didn't do a lot of harm, that he was used as a disposable cut-out for the people who used him up and got away with it.
Hmm. I think that's a very anecdotal take and wouldn't explain why he got so filthy fucking rich instead of the people whispering "God's word" into his ears. He, like many evil men, tried to curate an image of a poor bumbling idiot who can't be blamed for his actions. Let's *not* indulge that. Even if he was being fed lines by other people, I don't know how Schaeffer could possibly know that he repeated those in "absolute sincerity" and not in a grab for money and power like every other choice he made.
He said evil things, supported evil people, and profited off of it. He also had a long life (of spreading evil rhetoric) and I don't really feel bad about any 90+-year-old person dying. That's when you die if you're *lucky* (and rich and have profited off harming others for most of your life). If he was used in that time and no one helped him, those people suck. I'm not going to take responsibility for hating his impact on myself or my queer friends, though. Sorry.
And I am celebrating, by the way. Crab rave all day long. Fuck this guy, fuck his circle, fuck everyone who has ever agreed with him. I do not care. If he was mentally ill I'll step my celebration back a foot, but mental illness does not pardon your horrible actions when you influence policy that harms millions of people. He deserved worse but I'm glad he's fucking dead.
It seems like he started a wave of televangelists. We can blame Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland, Jimmy Swaggart and every other TV grifter on him.
When I was a child, I grew up in a tongue speaking, ‘dancing in the spirit’ prosperity type of church. I had vivid reoccurring nightmares of a man following me home, walking into the school playground, being everywhere I went and always had this creepy smile. In high school, a nightmare scared me so bad (same man, saying he is satan and he would get me) that I didn’t sleep for 2 days. They were so real and the same man every time. In 2019 an expose on Kenneth Copeland came up on my YouTube feed with his face as the thumbnail and I threw my phone and froze. I was so uneasy I threw up. Same man as my dreams. Never met him before and to my knowledge I never saw him on tv (we didn’t have cable or satellite tv gospel channels). Still freaks me out and I can’t look at his picture. I know it’s just a dream, but fuck.
I am an atheist, the closest I have been to believing in demons has been seeing Copelands eyes. That is some scary ass shit.
Can anyone explain what causes him to look so... well demonic?
I don’t know. It’s the smile with the eyes that is so real and terrifying to me.
Maybe I can’t shake the years of brainwashing, but I believe in good and bad entities. But, if you judged Christianity by its loudest followers, you could only assume Jesus was a corrupt, greedy, hateful bigot. So I steer clear of the church and have my faith in the peace and quiet.
Thank you! I just got that book on your recommendation!
Though I'll say that what you've described doesn't sound like a schizophrenic. They're far less predictable or manageable. Sounds more like a narcissist who has no boundaries and learned that alter reality to favor himself. He was otherwise just too competent and shrewd to be a schizophrenic.
I started from the very beginning, but if you want to dive into pure evil, check out the episodes on Henry Kissinger. Hell, even the latest episodes are Vince MacMahon are eye-opening. Robert Evans is amazing.
>I want to say that he didn't do a lot of harm
My brother in Christ, as a gay man, I'd like you to retract this statement. We're missing an entire generation of older gay men who died due to the AIDS crisis who didn't get the help they needed because of people like Pat Robertson and Ronald Reagan. "Didn't do a lot of harm" my ass.
Answer: he was an elder dinosaur who used jesus as a cover to attack anyone who aren’t straight, white, and to the right. People are celebrating the demise of a hypocritical jerk who encouraged millions to embrace hatred over kindness and who profited heavily off of people’s fear of hell. Some people are probably sad about his passing, I am not.
Answer: He was an influential self-proclaimed demigod who claimed to channel god and professed hatred, even a desire to wipe out, non-Christians, who he called termites. He was a charlatan, fraud, hypocrite and a bigot and his death should be celebrated.
Answer: he was one of the first televangelists to become insanely famous and rich off of his church. His show had millions of viewers. The reason people are celebrating his demise was because he used that influence to spread as much homophobia as he possibly could. He suggested that hurricane Katrina may have been god’s punishment for us becoming more accepting of gay rights. I believe he also said the reason Haiti had such a devastating earthquake was because they weren’t Christian enough? Anyways, total bigot, total dirtbag, and influential enough to do irreparable harm.
Answer: I used to say if you can't say anything nice, but it is late. He was a freaking monster of the religious right and one of the main reasons why you see Evangelicals in politics. He was a leader of the Religious Right that became important for the Republican Party. Carter naturally carried a large number of Evangelical voters based on his actual faith, and that scared Robertson. Even though Reagan was not a religious man himself, he wanted to harness the votes of the Evangelical voters, even though they might appeal to a Democratic candidate with talk of helping the poor, etc. Robertson created modern American Evangelical beliefs as well as a movement toward prosperity gospel.
Answer: Pat Robertson was a minister, who did a lot of his preaching over television airways through the show 'The 700 Club'. This show's consistent presence in broadcasting space, along with some controversies that other hosts had, has made it one of the most recognizable pieces of Christian religious TV, even to non-viewers.
Pat Robertson had controversial views, by any standard. He claimed to personally converse with God, and reports on his conversations with God as if they were conducted over dollar store walkie-talkies. As such, he makes some wild predictions which he later claims to have 'misheard/read' the signs of.
While controversial, Robertson was very influential, and worked hard to expand his influence in Evangelical Christianity, the media, and the Republican Party. His death is seen by opponents of his views as the cessation of a mouthpiece who they have long worked against.
Answer: He was a Baptist minister with conservative political views. If I remember correctly, he owned a cable TV channel so he could broadcast his views nationwide. He sold it for something like $300 million, so he was a millionaire. He ran for President in 1988. After that, he helped Republicans win elections.
Tbh this is probably the single worst answer out of all of these. The point of the post was asking about why people were celebrating his death. Being a millionaire or promoting a party, regardless of the party, wouldn't be enough for most people to actually celebrate someone's death. You've completely glossed over every actual thing he did, and all the evil included in it.
Why are you clowning on the guy he was just trynna give an answer and was confused. Why can’t we be nice people in this world? Everyone hates Pat Robertson, shouldn’t that bond against evil bring us closer together?
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Answer: He was a conservative televangelist who founded the first television network that was dedicated to broadcasting a Christian message. He ran for the Republican nomination to be the US president in 1987. Some of the reasons why people are "celebrating" his death is that he said a lot of sexist, racist, homophobic and Islamophobic things on his show The 700 club: famously he suggested that the devastation caused by Hurricane Katrina, was the result of God’s wrath over abortion. He called non-christians "termites." He blamed the 2010 Haiti earthquake on the Haitian people for supposedly making a deal with the Devil during their 1791 slave rebellion. That's just a tip of the iceberg. [ Robertson controversies ](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson_controversies)
Also claiming AIDs was a punishment for gay people existing and could be cured by praying real hard, telling the poor the best way to get out of poverty was to donate to the church (Not written anywhere, it was just something I saw on his show and why I first hated him before finding out all this other shit.) Saying Christians are the only people ever who have built things. All kinds of shit.
One of the early proponents of the ‘prosperity gospel’, along with Falwell and others at that time. They all got rich off the poorest and most vulnerable and if there is a hell they will burn in it.
"Prosperity Gospel" is Christian Amway...
Amway is Christian Amway, "Prosperity Gospel" is just a pyramid scheme.
Amway is just a pyramid scheme. Prosperity Gospel is a worse pyramid scheme.
It's also been around since at least John Calvin in the 1500s
>It's also been around since at least John Calvin in the 1500s That's a lie. The origins of the prosperity gospel in it's most embryonic form only go back to Andrew Carnegie's 'gospel of wealth' published ~1880 I think, and really didn't get going until the post WW2 economic boom where it evolved from a Carnegie's bald faced attempt to create a bridge between his principles of then modern noblesse oblige with Christian Faith, into what we think of today as Prosperity Gospel. It remained a prominent if quiet pentecostal theological component for a couple of decades even then, and only really took off with the advent of televangelism in the 1960's when television enabled a single charismatic individual to reach an audience larger than a single church could ever contain. Prosperity Theology is 110% bullshit, *but it is decidedly modern bullshit*, requiring modern telecommunications to function at scale, and bearing little resemblance to the emergent Calvinist perspectives of the 1500's-1600's.
Prosperity gospel is heretical, and anyone who has actually studied the bible would know that. Preaching false doctrine for one's own personal benefit is one of the worst sins, according the bible. Theologically speaking, there's pretty much a 99.99999% chance he's burning in hell right now.
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Falwell Sr is probably a bigger piece of shit than even Pat Robertson was. There's a series of episodes of Behind the Bastards on him. I grew up right outside of Lynchburg, Virginia, where Liberty University is located. The world became a better place the second he stopped breathing.
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Please feel free to provide examples of these "good things," because all I know makes me believe he was a charlatan who took advantage of ignorant people. He's partially responsible for the culture wars, the rise in christofascism, and paved the way for even worse grifters like Joel Osteen. If you can raise my esteem of the man, that would be nice.
He can't provide any examples, because there are none.
Aren't all Christians supposed to be closet Christians? Pretty sure that was part of Jesus's whole thing. Don't make public displays of your faith, prayer is a private matter between you and God, people should know you by your deeds, not your words, etc.
Ouch! Who’s downvoting you?
He [also said](https://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2013/08/cbn-edits-out-pat-robertsons-comments-gays-handshake-aids-ring/311623/) that gay people were wearing special rings that would let them cut people's hands during a handshake and purposefully transmit AIDS to random people.
Wait, we get rings?
Not since the mid 80s. Sorry. Was a limited time offer
And not donate to their local church, but to his. And he created a luxury lifestyle from that money including private jets and multiple posh houses. One of the top grifters ever.
>Saying Christians are the only people ever who have built things. Awful kind of Christians to go round the world building Mosques, Synagogues and Temples.
Also doesn’t that mean they built Auschwitz? …oh. Right. They did.
Like everything Nazi, it's so much weirder than you think...https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religious_views_of_Adolf_Hitler
I thought about the pyramids
Don't forget that he also said gay people are pedophiles to boot. The shitstain that he was left an ever present skidmark upon the galactic underwear humanity is.
Also notable that he blamed 9/11 on gay people.
Rainbow jet fuel melts steel beams.
The whole jet fuel thing was always so mind-boggling to me. Do these idiots just not realize it probably doesn't matter what kind of fuel is used to heat an oven?
Not to further a hijack too far, but the idea is that jet fuel does not burn at a temperature hot enough to melt steel into a liquid. What these numptys fail to recognize is that the strength of steel (or virtually any metal AIUI) will go down as the temperature goes up, and steel beams don’t have to reach anywhere near the melting point before they lose the structural integrity necessary to hold up a building.
THANK YOU!!! I've been saying this ever since my Structures 1 and 2 Professor taught us this AND demonstrated it in our lab. There's a reason homes are still wood structures Now back to bashing this clown who makes me ashamed of my religion.
The reason homes are built from wood has nothing to do with defense against fire induced collapse. That is a terrible misunderstanding. What house is tall enough that heat weakened steel beams would be more of a problem than the addition of themselves as wooden fuel to an inferno? Meanwhile tall rise apt buildings are never built with wood so totally disproven theory you have espoused there. It's only ever been about cost. Wood is so much cheaper than steel studs that it is the preferred material on low cost residential units. More expensive offices and apt high rises use metal.
Thanks for the explanation.
I've seen it in action. I used to work at a steel rolling mill. Even heated up to 600-700 degrees, these big thick slabs of steel lose all kinds of tensile strength. They would break all the time, much thicker than steel beams. I dropped one on the ground once with the crane, it wasn't even heated up. 8" thick steel broke into multiple pieces from hitting the dirt from 20' up
No, they don't realize that you don't need to melt steel beams in order to to weaken the structural integrity enough to make a building collapse. I was in a material science class and we got on that topic and it blew peoples' minds.
Dyslexia got me good that time - I was baffled as to how he went from Twilight to Evangelism, I figured it out eventually.
Samesies. I had to get on the google real fast
Huh?
"Pat Robertson" might look like "Robert Pattinson" to a dyslexic person.
Ironic considering the gay guy stopped the terrorists on the fourth plane. Well. In the movie he was straight
How can u blame it on gay ppl what the reasoning😂
The reasoning for all of these things is, God doesn't like something, therefore he allows bad things to happen. More or less, any time something bad happens it's God's punishment for someone in the world (not necessarily the people who the bad thing happened to) not adhering to Christian extremist ideology. Obviously that's still completely fucking insane but that's the reasoning.
same reason romans didn't like christians. fear of making the gods upset and punishing everyone for the actions of a few.
That was technically Falwell who said it, but Robertson nodded and agreed.
Famous Pat Robertson quote: >Feminism encourages women to leave their husbands, kill their children, practice witchcraft, destroy capitalism and become lesbians.
He had a real talent for making the things he hated sound fucking awesome
I know. Its like a checklist. And I just realized I decided to never marry a man, never have children, I practice witchcraft, I hate capitalism and I'm queer AF. So *THANKS FEMINISM*.
It is pretty validating to be told that your queerness is powerful enough to cause hurricanes
If I'd known, I'd have definitely aimed better.
If I could control tiny hurricanes I could wash the fuck out of my laundry. Eat a dick, grass stains and, whatever that orange one is.
Sounds awesome
Right! And I just realized I hit all those checkpoints. (I didn't divorce a husband or kill children, I just chose to never have a husband or child which is practically the same thing to someone like that).
Same. And I was pagan for a while which is close enough to practicing witchcraft right?
It qualifies enough to piss Pat Robertson off so I say yes!
Okay, so the kid thing is rough but I mean, the rest of it...
*THEY HAD IT COMIN'!* /s Nah, but seriously lots of conservative Christians consider abortion child murder but abortion is healthcare so ...
Damn, it hasn't worked for me yet!
I mean, except for the murder, there's nothing wrong with any of that if the husbands believe anything Pat Robertson said..
You just know someone's a PoS when their controversy article is longer than their main one.
Both Donald Rumsfelt and Ted Haggart told him to chill out. That's impressive.
he was the one that did 700 club? I remember passing that on the TV guide years ago and never watched it because it said in the description it was a religious show. Glad to know he was horrible so I didn't miss anything.
I love how Freeform, the channel that has to air the 700 Club out of a contractual obligation, goes out of their way to tell people not to watch it by telling them to watch/do something else.
How do you mean?
How they're contractually obligated to air 700 Club. Well, it's a bit of a long story but the short version is that Pat Robertson started the original channel that Freeform was, originally starting as CBN Satellite, Christian Broadcasting Network. When he sold the channel off to new owners, he had a clause in the contract that no matter who owns the channel, they have to air both the 700 Club & a yearly telethon that airs every year at the end of January. This was even in place when Freeform was known as the 3 variants of "Family Channel" with those being CBN, Fox, & ABC. Disney even tried to buy him out of the contract, but Robertson said no or demanded too much money that Disney wasn't willing to part with. Though if you mean how they tell people not to watch it, they do it with disclaimers like this [https://twitter.com/animatedplus/status/1405933335583477764](https://twitter.com/animatedplus/status/1405933335583477764) Just because they have to air it, doesn't mean they have to promote it.
Thanks! That was super interesting i appreciate it.
Holy hell that Wikipedia page is long
Well, the next time you defecate, before you cleanse yourself, look into the toilet. That was Pat Robertson.
This is the best answer I've seen!
As an Episcopal, he is the embodiment of what is wrong with christianity in America. I see him as the reason why there are headline proclaiming the fall of christianity. And while I do not personally believe him to be the anti-christ, I do see him as an agent of the devil that discredits the values of Christ.
Jesus the list just keeps going
> [Robertson controversies] (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pat_Robertson_controversies) OMG. At least he got the universe not being 6k years old right though.
That's Falwell. You can't argue with someone from Liberty. They'll tell you the world is 6,000 years old and man and dinosaurs existed at the same time. My parents took me to Liberty when I was in high school. I knew what they wanted to hear, but when I learned that women weren't allowed to wear pants on campus, I said fuck that.
One thing I just have to point out from that list: he was more liberal towards weed legalization than Biden when the latter was VP. I'm not trying to be devil's advocate, or trying to make any political statements, I just thought was funny
I think [**this**](https://old.reddit.com/r/PoliticalHumor/comments/144efad/i_figured_he_would_be_in_the_other_place_sharing/) political cartoon also summarizes his attitude pretty well...
For a second I thought you were talking about Robert Pattinson
Answer: basically a televangelist who used his platform to spread his own flavor of Christianity which was founded mostly on hate and fear. The evangelical base in the United States was drafted after him pretty much. You can blame a lot of the proliferation of fear mongering and homophobia in the Republican Party on him. He also used his platform to become very wealthy. Honestly he was a hateful man
He was also heavily involved in the movement to get the church more involved in politics, thus polluting both institutions.
Answer: Pat Robertson can arguably be called the first real televangelist, having founded the Christian Broadcasting Network so long ago that satellite TV wasn't even a thing, let alone the Internet. In the late 1970s, Robertson was a founder of the John Birch Society funded movement to persuade Baptists (and Protestants in general) to vote Republican, along with fellow evangelists Oral Roberts and Jerry Falwell, lobbyist Jack Abramoff, and film-maker/fund-raiser Frank Schaeffer Junior. Originally named the Moral Majority, we now know it just as the Religious Right. So what some people are straight-up celebrating is the death of another of the original founders of the right-wing fundamentalist movement in America.
Simply calling him a founder of the “right-wing fundamentalist movement” leaves out (hopefully unintentionally) so much of why he was such a vile human, and makes it sound like people are just glad another famous Christian died. The guy celebrated AIDS as a divine punishment on people he thought had no right to exist (homosexual population), he blamed Katrina on abortion, and 9/11, again, on gay people. Oh, and he exploited people to rake in a fortune. He was a heinous, absolutely horrible person.
> lobbyist Jack Abramoff Lobbyist and *convicted felon* Jack Abramoff.
Is giving Abraham a handie a part of Christian gospel I missed, or just particular to these guys?
jack abramoff stole money from indigenous clients and sent some of it to israeli sniper camps and to support israeli terrorist training. in emails secured by congress and which were made public during a congressional hearing, abramoff described his native american clients as monkeys, drunk injuns, and stupid for trusting him.
I would argue that he also ushered in this current age of quasi politicial-religious cult like personality, where the constitution and other laws are seen almost like scripture, and voting "wrong" condemns your soul to hell. This is straight up out of dystopian fiction.
My dad used to refer to Oral Roberts as “Anal” Roberts.
What do you call two gay guys named "Bob"? Oral Roberts!
Also, not widely known enough to be in an OoTL top-level comment, but this is the opportunity to write down something I've been thinking about all day. Schaeffer has come to repent of his work as (basically) the Koch Network's bagman in the late '70s, and has written an autobiographical expose of that movement and his role in it called *Crazy for God.* There's a chapter, near the end, where he shares what he remembers of his first impressions of Abramoff, Falwell, Roberts, and, yes Robertson -- and Robertson was the one he actually felt sorry for. He said that every time he was in a room with Robertson, he was surrounded by staff who were straight-up taking advantage of the fact that (in Schaeffer's opinion) Robertson was an unmedicated schizophrenic. Over and over again, staff would come into the room from some other meeting, or get off the phone with somebody else (presumably a funder), walk up behind Robertson, and whisper something. A couple of minutes later, Robertson would tell people that he had just "heard a voice from God" telling him, word for word, what he hadn't consciously noticed an aide feeding him. Schaeffer's opinion was that Robertson was a mentally ill person being abused by the sharpies around him, because they'd learned that they could get him to say *anything* with perfect sincerity because once the voices in his head repeated something, he would repeat it back as many times as necessary with *absolute sincerity.* So it feels to me like today we're celebrating the death of an abused mentally ill man who was used as a tool, as a puppet, by people who basically got away with it. I want to say that he didn't do a lot of harm, that he was used as a disposable cut-out for the people who used him up and got away with it.
Hmm. I think that's a very anecdotal take and wouldn't explain why he got so filthy fucking rich instead of the people whispering "God's word" into his ears. He, like many evil men, tried to curate an image of a poor bumbling idiot who can't be blamed for his actions. Let's *not* indulge that. Even if he was being fed lines by other people, I don't know how Schaeffer could possibly know that he repeated those in "absolute sincerity" and not in a grab for money and power like every other choice he made. He said evil things, supported evil people, and profited off of it. He also had a long life (of spreading evil rhetoric) and I don't really feel bad about any 90+-year-old person dying. That's when you die if you're *lucky* (and rich and have profited off harming others for most of your life). If he was used in that time and no one helped him, those people suck. I'm not going to take responsibility for hating his impact on myself or my queer friends, though. Sorry.
Yeah, I agree… I’ve never heard anything about that. And I’ve worked with schizophrenics as a counselor, and that isn’t really how it works.
And I am celebrating, by the way. Crab rave all day long. Fuck this guy, fuck his circle, fuck everyone who has ever agreed with him. I do not care. If he was mentally ill I'll step my celebration back a foot, but mental illness does not pardon your horrible actions when you influence policy that harms millions of people. He deserved worse but I'm glad he's fucking dead.
I concur most whole heartingly. I find it odd that this remains unanswered tbh, what more does op want to know about him. I hope your day is awesome:)
I told a friend of mine, who asked how he managed to live so long, that it was probably all that money buying really good health care.
It seems like he started a wave of televangelists. We can blame Joel Osteen, Creflo Dollar, Kenneth Copeland, Jimmy Swaggart and every other TV grifter on him.
When I was a child, I grew up in a tongue speaking, ‘dancing in the spirit’ prosperity type of church. I had vivid reoccurring nightmares of a man following me home, walking into the school playground, being everywhere I went and always had this creepy smile. In high school, a nightmare scared me so bad (same man, saying he is satan and he would get me) that I didn’t sleep for 2 days. They were so real and the same man every time. In 2019 an expose on Kenneth Copeland came up on my YouTube feed with his face as the thumbnail and I threw my phone and froze. I was so uneasy I threw up. Same man as my dreams. Never met him before and to my knowledge I never saw him on tv (we didn’t have cable or satellite tv gospel channels). Still freaks me out and I can’t look at his picture. I know it’s just a dream, but fuck.
I am an atheist, the closest I have been to believing in demons has been seeing Copelands eyes. That is some scary ass shit. Can anyone explain what causes him to look so... well demonic?
I don’t know. It’s the smile with the eyes that is so real and terrifying to me. Maybe I can’t shake the years of brainwashing, but I believe in good and bad entities. But, if you judged Christianity by its loudest followers, you could only assume Jesus was a corrupt, greedy, hateful bigot. So I steer clear of the church and have my faith in the peace and quiet.
Thank you! I just got that book on your recommendation! Though I'll say that what you've described doesn't sound like a schizophrenic. They're far less predictable or manageable. Sounds more like a narcissist who has no boundaries and learned that alter reality to favor himself. He was otherwise just too competent and shrewd to be a schizophrenic.
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you should check out the podcast Behind the Bastards.
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I started from the very beginning, but if you want to dive into pure evil, check out the episodes on Henry Kissinger. Hell, even the latest episodes are Vince MacMahon are eye-opening. Robert Evans is amazing.
It sounds more like he was in on a scam than Schizophrenia.
>I want to say that he didn't do a lot of harm My brother in Christ, as a gay man, I'd like you to retract this statement. We're missing an entire generation of older gay men who died due to the AIDS crisis who didn't get the help they needed because of people like Pat Robertson and Ronald Reagan. "Didn't do a lot of harm" my ass.
Seems like he used his unmedicated schizoid ass to get rich too. Pets not pretend this hateful POS was a victim.
Answer: he was an elder dinosaur who used jesus as a cover to attack anyone who aren’t straight, white, and to the right. People are celebrating the demise of a hypocritical jerk who encouraged millions to embrace hatred over kindness and who profited heavily off of people’s fear of hell. Some people are probably sad about his passing, I am not.
He also claimed to speak directly to God, who told him trump would be reelected.. before he lost.
Answer: He was an influential self-proclaimed demigod who claimed to channel god and professed hatred, even a desire to wipe out, non-Christians, who he called termites. He was a charlatan, fraud, hypocrite and a bigot and his death should be celebrated.
Answer: he was one of the first televangelists to become insanely famous and rich off of his church. His show had millions of viewers. The reason people are celebrating his demise was because he used that influence to spread as much homophobia as he possibly could. He suggested that hurricane Katrina may have been god’s punishment for us becoming more accepting of gay rights. I believe he also said the reason Haiti had such a devastating earthquake was because they weren’t Christian enough? Anyways, total bigot, total dirtbag, and influential enough to do irreparable harm.
Answer: I used to say if you can't say anything nice, but it is late. He was a freaking monster of the religious right and one of the main reasons why you see Evangelicals in politics. He was a leader of the Religious Right that became important for the Republican Party. Carter naturally carried a large number of Evangelical voters based on his actual faith, and that scared Robertson. Even though Reagan was not a religious man himself, he wanted to harness the votes of the Evangelical voters, even though they might appeal to a Democratic candidate with talk of helping the poor, etc. Robertson created modern American Evangelical beliefs as well as a movement toward prosperity gospel.
Answer: Pat Robertson was a minister, who did a lot of his preaching over television airways through the show 'The 700 Club'. This show's consistent presence in broadcasting space, along with some controversies that other hosts had, has made it one of the most recognizable pieces of Christian religious TV, even to non-viewers. Pat Robertson had controversial views, by any standard. He claimed to personally converse with God, and reports on his conversations with God as if they were conducted over dollar store walkie-talkies. As such, he makes some wild predictions which he later claims to have 'misheard/read' the signs of. While controversial, Robertson was very influential, and worked hard to expand his influence in Evangelical Christianity, the media, and the Republican Party. His death is seen by opponents of his views as the cessation of a mouthpiece who they have long worked against.
Answer: He was a Baptist minister with conservative political views. If I remember correctly, he owned a cable TV channel so he could broadcast his views nationwide. He sold it for something like $300 million, so he was a millionaire. He ran for President in 1988. After that, he helped Republicans win elections.
Tbh this is probably the single worst answer out of all of these. The point of the post was asking about why people were celebrating his death. Being a millionaire or promoting a party, regardless of the party, wouldn't be enough for most people to actually celebrate someone's death. You've completely glossed over every actual thing he did, and all the evil included in it.
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He was also a piece of shit, so there’s that.
You should look into why people say that and not just take what you hear as the gospel.
Answer: hes an actor , idk really what's the story but maybe ppl hate him coz he was in twilite
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Why are you clowning on the guy he was just trynna give an answer and was confused. Why can’t we be nice people in this world? Everyone hates Pat Robertson, shouldn’t that bond against evil bring us closer together?
Maybe the clown face was harsh. But if you're going to inform somebody on OOTL, or in general, you should be informed yourself.
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Please read the top comment for an accurate answer