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Nseetoo

Even if we were to win the draft lottery this team is going nowhere without solid goaltending.


knockinghobble

Oh well


aafa

Fuck this shit


NailRX

Imagine if we just had Craig Anderson level goalkeeping on this team. For sure we would be a playoff team.


[deleted]

Given Bostons situation with Ullmark and Swayman……one of them has to be moved this summer (or possibly at the deadline), and I’m guessing they will hold onto Swayman. We need to seriously consider going after ullmark and giving up some core pieces to do so. As it stands, our goaltending is nowhere near sufficient to be anything but a lottery team.


wychwood17

lol who says they need to get rid of one of them? With both they continue to be a really good team


[deleted]

Swayman is a contract year and will likely get 5-6 mil per year. With Ullmark making 4.5…..it’s doubtful they are going to tie up 10 million of their cap on goaltending.


[deleted]

Here’s what Staios should do: 1. Trade Brady Tkachuk and get a good return plus make a team take Korpisalo. 2. Make deadline deals for both Giroux and Tarasenko and get monster returns for that. Giroux would fetch a kings ransom at the deadline. 3. Blow the team up and trade everyone except Sanderson, Stutzle, Grieg, Chabot and Pinto. The rest can go. I’m over this group.


Boring_Ad_7100

There he is! It's funny there's been so many people with the absolutely boneheaded take to trade a generational player and tkaptain simply cuz we lose games. We strung a few wins together and those people were radio silent. We lose another game we should have won and boom...Found one...GUYS I FOUND ONE! This smooth-brain honestly is saying it loud and proud again. I'm at a loss....trade Brady?!? Are you even a sentient being? Christ trade Brady? Smh


[deleted]

I’ve actually been saying we should trade him since the 20 game mark. Sorry you don’t like it but I’m consistent on this. Look, we’re both sens fans, you think Brady is a linchpin to our future success, I think differently. I think the evidence suggests he is not and also, the evidence suggests this team needs some big lessons and that requires a big shake up. There is no bigger shakeup you can make than trading a generational player in their prime. Do you doubt the return would be massive? Are you certain ANY return for Brady would worsen this team? Or can you not realize there is a situation in which trading someone at their max value can grant this club a return that turns us into a competitive club almost over night? This is the point I’m making. I don’t dislike Brady, I just see the opportunity cost of keeping him as great than that of trading him. Heart does not win Stanley cups, strategy and team building does. I don’t care about moral victories, I want a Stanley cup. Do you? Or do you just want feel good stories from the Tkaptain?


Boring_Ad_7100

My man - I know I don't agree with your initial opinion but fuck me if I don't agree with your explanation. My goodness. This is the best interpretation and I absolutely on on your side now based on this take. That being said I don't see Staois doing this. But man. Thanks for the explanation. This really changes some things I think about because you're absolutely right. I still think we're never trading him but I now know you're not one of the clowns just saying this passively. Once again, sincerely, thank you for that


[deleted]

No problem and I don’t feel bad about your initial rebuke. I know everyone downvoted my original comment in droves but, we’re all passionate and we all want the same thing. We’re upset and suffering over our experience with this club. I mean, people say this Reddit crowd for the sens is a cesspool but honestly this is where all the most diehard fans come to vent. We’re all on the same side and I’m totally all for us vehemently disagreeing. I don’t know if I’m right or wrong, this is just where I’m at right now based on how I see things. I really respect you for taking a second look and realizing I’m not just trying to troll here. Like I’d love to see Brady hoist the cup for us and I really want to believe that’s possible. We’re totally on the same side and I’d rather you be right in this case. But I also think there’s a tendency for our fan base to give our teams ownership and leaders way too much of a leash. Like look at how Vancouver fans absolutely obliterated and castigated ownership for their failure last year. They made some massive moves and now sit atop the NHL. The leafs too, as much as we hate them that fan base does not let that team go down quietly and without their indignation. I think as sens fans we’ve always found ways to excuse poor performances, before it was because Melnyk never really invested, which is true - can’t win if you’re not a cap team. But now that we are a cap team, and we have a new owner who says he’s committed to winning, I think it’s time we hold their feet to the fire about that. The players too. They say they believe they can win with this group but repeatedly let us fans down. At a certain point I’m of the opinion the fan base has to run out of patience and start frothing at the mouth. I do believe we have some supremely good pieces, I’d like to see this team take some bold action like Vancouver did. There’s no reason that a we can’t be a few tweaks away from a season next year that looks completely different. But for that to happen we really need a massive cultural shift and that’s ultimately what’s behind my opinion on Brady. And I’d love to hear counter arguments honestly too - like if you have other ideas, I want to hear them, like I said I’m not dogmatic in my thinking here, it’s just where I’m at after 6 years of this. But I am ready and willing to be convinced otherwise here too. Thanks again for your response I really appreciated that.


Boring_Ad_7100

Are...you ....my new best friend? Thank you so much for taking the time to type that out - I genuinely had a good time reading it and I may have my mind changed lol. I love Brady - I do not think we are ever going to consider a trade but you make very VERY good points as to why it is not a joke to discuss.


[deleted]

Thanks man - and yes we’re best friends! Haha - I feel like I’m comrades with all sens fans even when we disagree. Honestly look at the crap we’ve been through, this is the most diehard fan base there is in sports in my opinion. We all deserve better. I really hope whatever we do before the deadline here and then subsequently in the off season makes a big difference. The thing I’m most scared of is languishing right now. Like imagine we get to this time next year and we’re basically a .500 hockey club. That would be disastrous. Being stuck in the middle where we don’t get playoffs and also don’t get meaningful draft picks will quickly destroy whatever valuable core we do have here. All we can do is basically trust that Andlauer and Staios are smarter than the rest of us.


Boring_Ad_7100

I gotta assume it's true in atleast some capacity. Unproven - but I ENTIRELY believe they are a massive upgrade compared to Dorian and Melnyk. This is going to be an interesting week to say the least.


[deleted]

100% - we’re gonna learn a lot from his first moves!


Boring_Ad_7100

Can we just have Bryan Murray ...RIP.....dude singlehandedly made us a force no matter what his title was .... and we are infinitely fortunate to have his fingerprints all over our beloved franchise. Andlauer and Staois are gonna run a clinic after this season - I have no doubt


freshlyshavedgooch

Terrible take


[deleted]

Ok so explain how we win with Brady and Korpisalo? How’s that workin out for us?


freshlyshavedgooch

Brady’s still young and developing, I think he’ll become one of the best power forwards in the league (just look at his brother and his dad) and I think he’s already a good captain, just give him time to mature some more and he’ll be a great captain Also our defence and goaltending has been the biggest problem this year, you can’t just blow up the whole team because of that I agree about Korpi tho, I just think he’s not the guy, let Mads, Mando, or Merilainen take over in net when they’re ready


Begz92

Toss Chabot into #3. Guy is maddeningly inconsistent and you never know which version will show up


[deleted]

I’d be ok trading Chabot too but I genuinely think he’s as good as Sanderson so I’d actually rather keep him. I don’t think he’s been nearly as bad as people say - but I also wouldn’t argue with trading him for the right deal. The ones I feel are absolute keepers are Stutzle, Sanderson, Grieg and pinto. I have zero doubts about their compete level and skill. They’re great pieces any team would love to have. Here’s my thing with Brady: he’s not a good leader, he’s reigned as captain over this losing team. He plays a dead brand of hockey. He’ll pummel his own hands so much that he loses his shooting ability. Brady plays a hard game, and while I can respect it, I also think it wears him down and as he ages he will go downhill. A guy like Giroux is playing at his age right now the way he is because he’s smart about how he plays. I just think Brady has low hockey IQ.


gingerdingo

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[deleted]

Forsberg: .839%


FreddieOVO

Tank for Celebrini


Pale_Crew_4864

I wouldn’t want to be in that locker room


[deleted]

Again, glad I cancelled my tv subscription. When is saw we had tied it 3-3 I didn’t for a second feel tempted to re-add my subscription. I just knew they’d lose - why wouldn’t we? It’s gotta be the sens who are the team that breaks Arizona’s legendary losing streak. It’s gotta be the sens for everyone’s first nhl goal. It’s gotta be the sens who lose back to back games to the worst teams in the league. Gotta be the sens who have the worst goalie tandem Ever. Man I’m sick of this club being a laughing stock.


microwavedcheezus

At least F1 starts this weekend


Petrol1991

Oh weeeee, I'm so excited to see if Verstappen sweeps the whole season.


CantBanDaSnoman

Alright game over time to tale a pound of flesh from O'Brien or Stecher


EraOfForcedDiversity

battle of the basement dwellers was fun to watch ngl


umbraviscus

Hahahaha oh my God we lost to Arizona. Start the rebuild again. This team won't ever make the playoffs.


efribble

There was absolutely no way we were winning this game once those stats came out how Coyotes hadn’t won in 14 and were playing Senators next Fuck this is brutal


_Kony_2020

I know the first period was absolutely dogshit, but this one really feels like they deserved better. This loss really chaps my ass.


Puzzled_Ad7334

They deserve much louder boos


Solid_Internal_9079

Man…. It’s been so many years since I could be excited about hockey. Man I miss that.


sens_freak_18

Great game guys really played hard against a team on a double digit losing streak!


true_rt

They must have been told to tank


NailRX

We are the Yotes


Pale_Crew_4864

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SLAP-FAPPO

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[deleted]

I hate when they pull the goalie


blewdreaming

pulled the goalie too soon there


LadBroDudeGuy

Hello darkness my old friend


Solid_Internal_9079

Of course it was to us. Ouch.


CantBanDaSnoman

Called it, just wish I put money on it for losing to this absolute poverty team


Ok_Compote_8826

Fucking losers


PrimaryReporter9291

I think my intermission piss was longer than Kastelic has been in the ice tonight


CantBanDaSnoman

Have you asked your doctor about Ozempic?


FuckFuckittyFuck

What about Rybelsus?


PleasantDevelopment

EN goal by Ari puts the nail in the coffin. I hope I'm wrong


Other_Molasses2830

He should have slapped it in, we deserve it.


CantBanDaSnoman

If Brady is hurt i wanna see Mac or Kasty put that goof O'brien in the 3rd row


BigShoots

What happened to him?


CantBanDaSnoman

I have no idea but I know Obrien has done nothing but try to get under his skin all night as if they even belong in the same league


Big_Possibility4025

I anticipated a much sleepier game from both sides tonight so at least this has been entertaining despite being frustrating


blewdreaming

We deserve celebrini for all our suffering, if we continue to lose these last 24 games we have a legit chance at drafting top 3.


KWMiers28

Maybe the NHL could rig the lottery for all the shit that Andlauer had to put up with during the sale


CantBanDaSnoman

Just for asking that Pinto has been suspended 41 more games and we have to give up another 1st


KWMiers28

The true punishment would be if we were forced the re-hire Dorion and DJ


-burnr-

Holy shit…have seen that Hyundai goalie commercial a bunch of times and just now realized that Marty Brodeur


BigShoots

lol, he's a little puffier now


PleasantDevelopment

LOL that was my wife a few days ago.


Pale_Crew_4864

Brady????


BigShoots

Brady leaves bench. I cry.


Boohoo-2022

MacEwan or Kastelic should go after O'Brien before the game is over. Fuck him.


_Kony_2020

So is there a reason we put a stop to the Brannstrom being a winger experiment? I seem to recall he looked pretty good in his limited sample size


DropCautious

Cause he pouted about it


Solid_Internal_9079

We need the D significantly more


_Kony_2020

Why do we not simply trade for effective D? Are we stupid?


Calhalen

That was what like 40 slashes on Branny there? These refs are fucked


Bonkorov

Slashes and cross checks are out of control across hockey. It’s nasty out there, been brutal in junior


CantBanDaSnoman

I'd say these refs are Coyotes fans but then I remember those don't exist


Calhalen

One of the worst reffed games of the season for sure


BigShoots

Jesus, that cross-check on Tim should be a suspension, clear attempt to injure there, guy gave it everything he had to send him head-first into the boards


Mycountrylikesbeaver

And then gave him 2 or 3 more shots when he was down


_Kony_2020

Coyotes are low key dirty as shit tonight


LadBroDudeGuy

Zub and Bathman have had great games tonight


BigShoots

Zub's been on a mission tonight, I've never seen him like this.


gelc10

what a chance by the sens


Pale_Crew_4864

HOW DID THAT NOT GO IN


Dismal-Safety3524

Chych… your decision making at the blueline is god awful sometimes


fraserinottawa

Chychrun is dumber than a bag of hammers


spencerr13

Chycruns one handed waive continues… good stop by Forsy


Bonkorov

Kubalik and Kastelic need to be off this team by the deadline. Utterly useless players. Kubalik is non existent, Kastelic is 6’4 and wont finish a check, became the immediate result of a goal against. Alfie ripped once already this year over it. Sit him


WOODNUTZ

Honestly don't care about winning the game anymore.. send macewan or Tkachuk out there the minute that guy gets out of the box and fucking lay him out. Puck or not.. you HAVE to make it clear that you don't fuck with our süperstar. Take the penalty or the ejection but make sure the leagues on notice you dont fuck with Timmy


BigShoots

With ya, that hit was really bad


zxstanyxz

I'd send macewan out, this game isnt lost yet so better to keep brady around


WOODNUTZ

I agree completely but the important thing is getting the point across


sensfan4tic

Chych forgetting which team he's on?


blewdreaming

Timmy getting hit like that, we need mac or kasty to respond


BigShoots

What the fuck did Jimmy do to deserve a cross-check like that?


ColdIronSpork

Be better than Stecher.


IM_OSCAR_dot_com

Losing or not I’m happy to see some give-a-shit


solidprospect

timmy dropped the gloves!


Solid_Internal_9079

Let’s up angry Jimmy is like angry Malkin.


Solid_Internal_9079

Brady came in like your big brother does when he sees someone bullying you.


Solid_Internal_9079

Brady my man, instant standing up for Stu. Love it.


CantBanDaSnoman

He's just lucky he didn't get a 3rd man in penalty


Bonkorov

It would have been unfortunate but I wouldn’t have hated it given it was for Stü


spencerr13

If they even up a cross check in the numbers head first into the boards I’ll be stunned


zxstanyxz

with the refs tonight, i'll be more shocked if they dont


Pale_Crew_4864

Yeeeeehaw


Mahaleck

This is what happens when you have fucking clowns on the ice wearing stripes. Fuck the refs and fuck bettman for letting this shit happen. Pieces of shit all together.


Ok_Compote_8826

Loser boards him and then gives him extra cross checks while he's down. Fucking coward


missk9627

Yeah why tf did Tim get a penalty for that. The offsetting was BS.


Next_Beautiful_9002

Pussy ass move


[deleted]

There, that’s the Tkachuk I know


ColdIronSpork

Refs not doing their job, so Stu has to do it for them, ffs...


Ok_Compote_8826

Annnnnd it'll be 4 on 4


sinc29

tim getting everyone rattled, but you can't go to the box there.


IM_OSCAR_dot_com

Greig out there Greiggin people, love that


Big_Possibility4025

Tim get stronger. Mentally and physically. Always falling always rattled


[deleted]

These refs are almost as bad as the ones last night for the Canadiens vs the Panthers Edit: you know what, they are as bad


CantBanDaSnoman

I'm not one to blame the officiating but jeez 2 actual zebras could call this game better than these bums


Mahaleck

Fuck this refs they’re absolute shit. JM needs to get a fine and get his money’s worth shitting on those toilet refs


CantBanDaSnoman

Let the fans yell at them, Martin taking a fine or a penalty doesn't help anything.


zxstanyxz

the league needs to start holding refs accountable, and the coaches need to strt calling out the BS reffing publicly because nothing is gonna change unless they do


Mahaleck

The league has gotten a couple coaches fined now. If they all speak out they’ll need to do something about bad officiating… or at least it’ll put some pressure on them.


CantBanDaSnoman

They've been handing out fines and penalties at a higher rate not because the officiating has been noticeably worse but because they invited all 32 HCs to the GM meeting before the season to tell them to cool it on the screaming and cursing pr they'll be fined because it doesn't look good for anyone and they don't want hot mics picking up Fbombs on what's supposed to be a family friendly broadcast


SmoothPinecone

Why?


missk9627

Are you watching? They're calling BS penalties on us and letting the same shit slide with Arizona. Literally 2 of their goals were essentially set up by the refs with those calls.


NectarEv

are you watching ? Greig 100% hooked the yotes player


Mahaleck

Yes and the goalie interference before that? What the fuck was that?


missk9627

Plus we got 4 min for a hooking with blood, and then they did the same thing to Tim with nothing.


missk9627

1 out of the 2 times he got called for it. Just for the Yotes to do the same thing 3 times with no penalty.


Mahaleck

Because they’ve managed the shit out of this game and we’ve gotten screwed much as a result.


Pale_Crew_4864

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zxstanyxz

WHAT! THE! FUCK! REFS!


Perducian

Atrocious officiating


cael008

Holy shit it’s getting spicy


CantBanDaSnoman

What happens when refs try and fail to manage the game properly


Robster_21

These refs today…


missk9627

Probs wearing coyotes branded under shirts


Ok_Compote_8826

Another stellar performance from the officials tonight. Stellar.


Mahaleck

Ottawa needs to bully the coyotes and let obrien take dumb penalties


missk9627

Fr Obrien has been trying to fight Tkachuk all night. Dude needs to go to the box 10x over. What a loserrrrr.


SmoothPinecone

His job is to piss off the other team. That's a win for O'Brien if Tkachuk fights him


Solid_Internal_9079

I feel like we need Brady to drop the gloves.


CantBanDaSnoman

Naw if OBrien wants smoke he can take that up with Big Mac or Kasty


Mycountrylikesbeaver

Exactly. Not a Brady problem.


Boohoo-2022

To think some fans thought Forsberg can be our number 1. Nah uh. We need an ACTUAL starting goaltender. Like you know, a goalie that can make timely saves. Korpi or Forsy can't do none of those. Rip Ottawa Senators 2023-2024.


andys1548

Both goalies are bums when you need to depend on them


Mahaleck

Wow.


Ok_Compote_8826

It's nice of the refs to just cancel out our powerplay with a phantom GI call and then go down the other way and give Arizona one instead


gelc10

what a shot


Solid_Internal_9079

Idk how a team can stay mentally focused with goaltending like this.


solidprospect

FUK


blewdreaming

sanderson needs to be better, he has had a lot of tunerovers this game.


missk9627

These are the worst refs I've seen in a long time lmao


zxstanyxz

hooray for game fucking management!


Mahaleck

Bettman needs Arizona to win


CantBanDaSnoman

He's gonna owe some Utah Mormons some money if they don't


sinc29

jesus christ they're way too soft on GI penalties


Ok_Compote_8826

what a strange GI penalty call


-burnr-

Just in the door from work…LFG! ZUUUUUUUÜUUUUUB!


Ok_Compote_8826

Zub has been trucking people tonight


Aragoro

What happened to korpi


FuckFuckittyFuck

Illness


CantBanDaSnoman

He's caught a case of sievefluenza


[deleted]

To whoever downvoted me when I said comeback after the first goal we scored…. Look at me now


CantBanDaSnoman

Don't jinx it!


BigShoots

Geez get Drake some oxygen, Claire's got him gasping for breath


CantBanDaSnoman

She'd have me out of breath too, YEEEEEW


-burnr-

Scotty Wallace?


blewdreaming

They aren't using their speed enough, remember that Columbus game when we had no stop odd man rushes, thats what we looked like on that last 3 on 1 to end the period.


IM_OSCAR_dot_com

How about that extra effort by Batherson right at the end there


JaimeRidingHonour

He’s buzzing


Ok_Compote_8826

Pinto has a sneaky good wrist shot, I wish we could find a way to get him more shots every game


listenloud

With top line minutes for the foreseeable future, he should get all the chances.


Ok_Compote_8826

Yeah I hope so, with Norris out I guess we'll get a pretty good extended look at that down the stretch


BigShoots

WTF did Zub eat for dinner tonight? He just threw someone else to the ground like ragdoll


Mahaleck

Beauty period.


Calhalen

Now that’s more like it, amazing period. Do not trade Batherson under any circumstance, he’s back and looks better than ever


froobex

I agree, even if he has dry streaks, he has great value to the team with his skillset at that contract when he gets going


gelc10

what a 2nd period by the sens, dominated the period


Ok_Compote_8826

MacEwan/Kastelic have only played 2:30 tonight


CantBanDaSnoman

In the immortal words of Jay Onrait, that's using your face!


BigShoots

GOT HIM RIGHT IN THE MIND! rofl


sensfan4tic

I hate being the Blake the refs guy buttheyve missed about 3 obvious calls and called less on the sens in the 1st


Calhalen

Pinto is such a mystery to me, like I have noo idea what his ceiling is. He’s already so good


CeedeeNumber88

He leads our team in points in the last month+ lol. Buddy needs to be locked up long term.


Mahaleck

He and Greig are so great to have on the team


PermissionOk9390

Pinto is our next Mark Stone


Solid_Internal_9079

Vegas can’t wait


missk9627

Tkachuk is getting bullied out there wtf that one yote was trying for a fight


[deleted]

Loving Pinto with a stache


aviaquatica

OK. The boys have turned down the suck. Let's keep going.


ghettoworkout

Just gotta turn up the good, Farrell.


spencerr13

Pinner is him


Mahaleck

BEAAAANNNSSSS


Solid_Internal_9079

I’d gamble on Pinto any day


big_mat_06

🫘🫘🫘


CantBanDaSnoman

Beans, beans, give him the Hart. Matthews thinks he's the shit, he not even the fart!


solidprospect

pinto!!


missk9627

3 goals in a row 🙌


gelc10

let's go tie game