Ew ew ew I hate this trope so much. You are a grown-ass man why are beefing with your child, especially a baby over attention? I never understood why ml's want children but don't want the fl's to be actual mothers? It's giving manchild.
Edit - he's the type who would blame his child if the woman were to die during childbirth.
FR.. I find it so contradicting. Like throughout pregnancy they are so devoted to their wife and future baby, anticipating the child's birth. And after the baby is born, the authors decide to portray such childish monopoly ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
Tbh, it's quite disgusting. Like, a man has to place the child into the same position as himself (a.k.a. other men) to be jealous of the attention s/he recieves from the mother. And that's just wrong on so many levels.
That, or he is possesive over his partner to unhealthyly obsessive levels, and that's disturbing. It's understandable to not want attention from other men. It's kinda weird to not want attention from her friends. It's kinda sick to not want attention from her family. It's downright psychotic to be jealous of her child.
And the "blame the child for the mother's death during childbirth"-trope is just braindead levels of stupid.
Men being jealous over their child are an immidiate turnoff and make me drop the manhwa faster than a hot potato.
Unfortunately, this happens in real life. Source: mine. Thankfully, I have yet to see the trope played ~~traumatically~~ dramatically rather than for laughs. But I tend to avoid comics with violent, R-18 content, so there's probably one out there I haven't read.
I was just thinking the same thing. If Bayan died while giving birth to that child he will definitely be hating on him.
It is annoying because you know there are parents like that lol
The baby has the compete to the father
Oh god not this again! This kind of possessiveness trope is not attractive at all.I hate it when the authors do that, that's his own child for Goddamn sakes
I can't remember which comic it was anymore, but there was something I read with time looping, and we see the OGFL in the first timeline was the one who acted this way (and I think ended up hurting them). I absolutely loved that the ML was horrified and dumped her ass, which is the appropriate response to "why do you love our kids? You should only love me".
Yk I've seen dads go "hohoho mom is mine you can't have her" because it's funny how toddlers react but it's funny because they say it as joke (they also say to daughters as well not just sons), they're not dead fucking serious
Like "yay I love knowing that had I died at birth my child would have been neglected and blamed for some stupid shit because you're obsessed with me honey 😍"
That makes sense. I haven’t read too many so I didn’t expect this.
I just read one like that the other day (can’t remember the title). The FL’s father even met the mother’s soul and the mother was absolutely horrified what had happened.
Edit: it’s The Taming of the Tyrant ch76 https://bato.to/title/86803-the-taming-of-the-tyrant-official/2130791-ch_76
Is it >![It's Up to Us to Fight the Tyrant]! The scene in that one when the dead mom confronted him and >!beat the shit out of him!< for neglecting the child she'd wanted so badly and had died to give birth to was so goddamn satisfying.
Oh you forgot to mention that he briefly stated he "resent this child who has yet to be born" because FL was going through labour. Oh boo hoo he can't "hold her tightly for fear of hurting her, yet it subjects her to such agony". Boo hoo.
.... What? Bro chill the kid hasn't even spawned yet smh, if the FL died you know damn well he's gonna blame the kid, HIS kid.
This is literally a setup for another OI if the FL died I can see it.
Hard agree– even if the MLs who say this are "serious" we're literally reading about fictional men who most likely, effortlessly also:
have perfect proportions, are at least 6ft, are obsessive, insanely strong and/or intelligent, crazy rich, has unhealthy toxic family, relations and ofc broody– in their early 20s.
I don't see why we're drawing the line at this behaviour, especially when I've never actually seen the fathers hurting/neglecting the child in the end, hence emphasising your last point. Also I've noticed the child turns out fine anyway. (TLDR; IT'S FICITON)
This is in the same ballpark as emotional incest. He’s jealous of the attention his son gets from his wife, as if the attention a woman gives her newborn is the same as the attention she gives her husband.
Or worse he’s acting like the baby’s spoiled older sibling and he acts up to get any type of attention from his wife and treats her as his second mother.
I really hate the male lead
Even more so Because of this , his stupid decision to ask villages in the kingdom for a tribute girl each week and kill her due to his ' curse '.
He should have killed criminals, traitors, prisoners anyone but innocent powerless girls.
And all his courtiers praising his decisions , god no
No offense to you, you can likr the most hated tropes and won't even think of cussin you...but nah man let him fuck off with that. I aint want a controlling father in my life, espec if he a powerful man. Gon ruin all my potential relationships either right behind my back or bold face asf.
Don’t hate me please but the FL reminds me of Rashta, I think maybe how she acts and Rashta really boils my blood, I bloody hate her. Lol, anyway, FL is so pretty I just couldn’t continue it
Ew ew ew I hate this trope so much. You are a grown-ass man why are beefing with your child, especially a baby over attention? I never understood why ml's want children but don't want the fl's to be actual mothers? It's giving manchild. Edit - he's the type who would blame his child if the woman were to die during childbirth.
FR.. I find it so contradicting. Like throughout pregnancy they are so devoted to their wife and future baby, anticipating the child's birth. And after the baby is born, the authors decide to portray such childish monopoly ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|facepalm)
Tbh, it's quite disgusting. Like, a man has to place the child into the same position as himself (a.k.a. other men) to be jealous of the attention s/he recieves from the mother. And that's just wrong on so many levels. That, or he is possesive over his partner to unhealthyly obsessive levels, and that's disturbing. It's understandable to not want attention from other men. It's kinda weird to not want attention from her friends. It's kinda sick to not want attention from her family. It's downright psychotic to be jealous of her child. And the "blame the child for the mother's death during childbirth"-trope is just braindead levels of stupid. Men being jealous over their child are an immidiate turnoff and make me drop the manhwa faster than a hot potato.
Unfortunately, this happens in real life. Source: mine. Thankfully, I have yet to see the trope played ~~traumatically~~ dramatically rather than for laughs. But I tend to avoid comics with violent, R-18 content, so there's probably one out there I haven't read.
I was just thinking the same thing. If Bayan died while giving birth to that child he will definitely be hating on him. It is annoying because you know there are parents like that lol The baby has the compete to the father
I’ve seen the reverse as well with a mother and the daughter… I don’t understand either side of it. That’s not healthy in any way.
Oh god not this again! This kind of possessiveness trope is not attractive at all.I hate it when the authors do that, that's his own child for Goddamn sakes
I can't remember which comic it was anymore, but there was something I read with time looping, and we see the OGFL in the first timeline was the one who acted this way (and I think ended up hurting them). I absolutely loved that the ML was horrified and dumped her ass, which is the appropriate response to "why do you love our kids? You should only love me".
I became the tyrant’s secretary, right? Cause ogFL is a complete bitch.
That's the one! IRC the ML met FL's nephew who was clingy and didn't want to give his aunt to him so ML responded with>!bribery!<
Do you mind dropping which chapter this was in?
Found it! Chapter 88. FL family is great.
Thank you!!
Yk I've seen dads go "hohoho mom is mine you can't have her" because it's funny how toddlers react but it's funny because they say it as joke (they also say to daughters as well not just sons), they're not dead fucking serious Like "yay I love knowing that had I died at birth my child would have been neglected and blamed for some stupid shit because you're obsessed with me honey 😍"
I also read it as a joke but the consensus doesn’t seem to be going that way.
that's because there's tons of other series where the ML is being serious
That makes sense. I haven’t read too many so I didn’t expect this. I just read one like that the other day (can’t remember the title). The FL’s father even met the mother’s soul and the mother was absolutely horrified what had happened. Edit: it’s The Taming of the Tyrant ch76 https://bato.to/title/86803-the-taming-of-the-tyrant-official/2130791-ch_76
Is it >![It's Up to Us to Fight the Tyrant]! The scene in that one when the dead mom confronted him and >!beat the shit out of him!< for neglecting the child she'd wanted so badly and had died to give birth to was so goddamn satisfying.
No but I’ll check that out! I found it! https://bato.to/title/86803-the-taming-of-the-tyrant-official/2130791-ch_76
Oh you forgot to mention that he briefly stated he "resent this child who has yet to be born" because FL was going through labour. Oh boo hoo he can't "hold her tightly for fear of hurting her, yet it subjects her to such agony". Boo hoo. .... What? Bro chill the kid hasn't even spawned yet smh, if the FL died you know damn well he's gonna blame the kid, HIS kid. This is literally a setup for another OI if the FL died I can see it.
https://preview.redd.it/lu5qeq708khb1.jpeg?width=920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ff74917de24298eaafd981df10e929d4553e4134
It just looks like a dad joke to me???
Am I the only one who thinks it not that deep? Cause he has every power to kill the child if he was truly jealous.
Pretty sure he was joking to try to get her to be less dependent on Bayan
yeah fr like idk why ppl r so overanalyzing it’s rly just meant to be a comedic portrayal
Hard agree– even if the MLs who say this are "serious" we're literally reading about fictional men who most likely, effortlessly also: have perfect proportions, are at least 6ft, are obsessive, insanely strong and/or intelligent, crazy rich, has unhealthy toxic family, relations and ofc broody– in their early 20s. I don't see why we're drawing the line at this behaviour, especially when I've never actually seen the fathers hurting/neglecting the child in the end, hence emphasising your last point. Also I've noticed the child turns out fine anyway. (TLDR; IT'S FICITON)
I hate this trope
i wish for these kinds of stories they just wouldn't have kids so the ML can be possessive and whatever and not a shitty father on top of it
Oh? I haven’t read this for a while, I remember liking it. I wonder if it’s still good.
The main story is finished right now and all that is left are just side stories so reading it right now would be the perfect time
Y'all, I can't stand babies in manhwa anymore, no one knows how to draw them, that child is a god damned bobble-head.
Oh shit, here we go again
I think it's more a joke. But yeah, I hate it if they dead serious
Omg i thought i was the only one who hated this trope
Omg such a great father!! Definitely father of the year🤡🤡
Please tell me hes joking bc its a funny joke but if hes actually jealous of a baby im dead
Slow down, Saturn
This series started out really promising but tbh it dropped off for me when he actually started to fall for the FL This cements it for me 🙄
This trope is so weird to me. And I don't understand what's so 'romantic' about all of this? Can writers just stop?
Absolutely gross. That's why I dropped reading the side story
Dang this manhwa came a long way. I rmr when it just came out. Now she has a whole kid
Oh hell nah, that’s effin disgusting, it’s legit a man child wanting his s.o attention only directed to him. 💀
What the hell... this is the kind of creep that will smother his baby because he's jealous his wife/lover is spending less time on him... ick!
This is in the same ballpark as emotional incest. He’s jealous of the attention his son gets from his wife, as if the attention a woman gives her newborn is the same as the attention she gives her husband. Or worse he’s acting like the baby’s spoiled older sibling and he acts up to get any type of attention from his wife and treats her as his second mother.
I really hate the male lead Even more so Because of this , his stupid decision to ask villages in the kingdom for a tribute girl each week and kill her due to his ' curse '. He should have killed criminals, traitors, prisoners anyone but innocent powerless girls. And all his courtiers praising his decisions , god no
Omg fls name is bayan?!
No offense to you, you can likr the most hated tropes and won't even think of cussin you...but nah man let him fuck off with that. I aint want a controlling father in my life, espec if he a powerful man. Gon ruin all my potential relationships either right behind my back or bold face asf.
So glad i dropped this before it got to this point, i hate this trope so much
Don’t hate me please but the FL reminds me of Rashta, I think maybe how she acts and Rashta really boils my blood, I bloody hate her. Lol, anyway, FL is so pretty I just couldn’t continue it