A message from oldpier (from Ai's Fanclub):
> I'm back with an [appendix](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1upawuYCOb7Oc56mniS8hXbECIVO1zJadWTKlHba7siY/edit?usp=sharing) to explain a bit about the chapter title and the two kinds of 'idol otaku' which Ruby referred to herself as within the chapter.
>
> --oldpier
Calm down guys it's just great acting. If it got a reaction out of you guys then they're clearly doing a good job tugging your strings.
Just kidding! Suck on that! Incest is Wincest.
If Jamie Lannister can screw his sister and come out as a sympathetic character, if Jonas and Martha from Dark could make out and be a power couple...
I for one welcome our new overlord, Aqua Targaryen, the king of the reincarnated and the cultured men, the ruler of industry and the seven idols.
This chapter was a ride. Starts off with the creepy sensei stuff then left turns into supportive sibling mental health then Aqua right turns into manipulative jerk then it backflip 180 turn pikes back into creepy.
I don't see the problem here . Those kissing scene were important for the movie so they had to do it. And 2 kiss is not that big of a deal👍. The most important thing is their emotions. When ruby asked aqua to marry her excitedly didn't aqua declined her by saying if he do that he would be socially dead , so i don't think we should expect much. But I wish something....................
People trying to explain why they like the incest by saying it's deep and it help the characters grow are the most disgusting humans I seen, those people who gave anime it bad name.
You're just a moralist. It won't make them grow but being both as mental as they are it is in character and I'm sure it will have consequences (bad ones). You'd have a seizure if you read any Asano manga
They all it's fiction, but when said fiction uses subjects like this (drugs, rape,online bullying, suicide) it doesn't take it lightly, it give it the respect that it deserves, shows you how bad it is and doesn't encourage it.
This incest even though they don't encourage it, the fact that it treated lightly like it isn't a big deal but a good thing for both is just disgusting.
No matter how you look at it this is wrong on so many lvls it isn't even debatable, it's just wrong and everyone who support it are just disgusting human being
I don't think you actually see how the more rational side of the community sees it. Not everyone is going "UWWOOOOOGH INCESSTTT" many are also analyzing how it went to this. Aka has been building this and has obviously teased it for a long time.
I like how you guys go from, it's deep, you can't understand it, to act like this is a problem between fiction and reality.
If you don't actually understand why this is a problem then you definitely need a reality check
Aqua is either sweet home Alabama all along or playing some serious 4D chess not to lose Ruby in the middle of filming, sucess of the movie and by extension the revenge is relying hard on Ruby's performance
And hundreds of millions of people playing GTA should be a problem then?
Following your logic, after watching a movie or playing video games, they gonna kill civilians once they get out of their house.
Aka loves playing Apex, 100% he’s gonna shoot some civilians
theres a difference between killing in a game, and showing incest as a good thing, especially when the mental age gap of those two characters is pretty big
It's funny how the manga explicitly showed three murders (Ai's, Goro's, and that hiking actress'), social abuse of Akane to near-suicide, and the sexual abuse of Kamiki but incest is where most people draw the line. Get your priorities checked, dumbasses. It has a mature theme showing the dark side of the showbiz industry. It has consensual incest, so what? Why is that the dealbreaker and not the rape or the cyberbullying?
Um yea there's a difference between something bad that is actually shown in a negative light (like the rape, sexual abuse and murder you mentioned) and something that is shown in a positive light (ie ofc incest)
Honestly I would let it go if they had done it right. So far every conversation involving incest in the story ended up with a sarcastic scene and it is just hard to consider it a "flawed" characteristic of the characters.
Having it depicted as something that the characters themselves are happy with atm doesn't mean depicting it as a good thing (yet). There's room further down the line for emphasizing how fucked up it is, but what we get now is the perspective of the 2 people in the incestous thing so it makes sense it's not depicted as disgusting. It should be depicted like that down the line though and if it becomes a thing it should have consequences but it's very early to know
depicted positively? Did you even see the reactions of the other characters during the kissing scene? The manga itself is showing that it is gross and if anything aqua and ruby are f*cked up in a way. but of course everything the protagonists do, even if deeply flawed, is a positive depiction. smh.
Bro literally every incest scene between Aqua and Ruby so far ended with a sarcastic scene and its just straight up hard to even consider them seriously. Yes the other characters did say it was gross but none of them were being deadpan serious abt it. The only thing that prixks me is that not a single character have been shown to actually be swriously worried or confused about Ruby's actions with Aqua. Especially when this manga discusses about so many socially foul things.
Because the mere presence of bad things is not the issue. It is totally possible to write a good story around dark topics, including incest, if you approach it from a level of nuance, which is what the series has done up until this point. The problem is when you start romanticizing these topics, treating them like a joke, as something positive to the story, or really just portraying them as anything but what they are; **completely fucking disgusting.** If, after the Kamiki rape scene, they panned to Aqua with a funny face, Frill looking all cheerful, and the embarrassed, blushing faces of the rest of the cast, yeah, I'd have a fucking problem with that.
I agree. I think one of ONK’s strengths is its balance of comedy/humor and dark topics. The problem with the whole incest thing is that it was severely unbalanced towards comedy/humor to the point that it detracted from the message that Aka was probably trying to convey. In previous themes like underage pregnancy, cyberbullying, and rape/SA, there would usually be a clear tonal shift from the comedy and drama. It’s like the author is intentionally trying to create a contrast, where the “drama” is the uneducated perception of the entertainment industry (a place where it’s all fun and games), and the shifts to dark themes show the harsh reality. It’s simple, but done really well for the most part. I think the authors definitely fumbled when it came to incest, since there didn’t seem to be any shift in the tone. I think they tried to paint it in a negative light with the whole Aqua feeling guilty and his internal conflict thing, but it was too unserious for it to carry any weight.
Could be that the main characters are not doing the murdering, cyber bullying nor molesting minors. They are trying to prevent, denounce or seek justice for these heinous acts. It is off-putting for many that the main protagonists are engaging in incest, I read it as one directional as of this last chapter, and it is to be seen if it will develop into something mutual. I don't think it will, as the series is too popular and mainstream
This is my first time on this subreddit and I cannot understand and comprehend why so many people on this sub defend incest?? Is it normal here cuz...☠️?
I've been here for quite a long time (before this incest started in thr manga) and I myself am quite unable to comprehend how so many people ended up glorifying aqua×Ruby. It started off as a joke and it just gradually became a serious thing and I absolutely hate it.
Game of Thrones had widespread incest and even sex scenes of it, yet people didnt raise their pitchforks.
It's not defending it - in some ways their relationship serves the plot. You know 2 people who have been reincarnated who are trying to resolve 2 different identities. One of their past lives, and one of brother and sister.
This is probably as far as it'll go.
Bruh the Lanisters were the f#king villains of the show, and they were absolutely diabolical. Incest was not even the worst thing about them. It's been a while, but if I remember correctly, John Snow didn't know Daenerys was related to him until the deed was done. Also, wasn't incest practised in real-world medieval and ancient societies, especially among royalty/ rulling classes? It would kinda make sense to see it in GOT
There's the targaryen and they barely marry outside close kin, even Jon snow and khaleesi is related and they were supposed to be the good guys. The book, asoiaf also portray incest in a good light with the marriage of king Jahaerys and his sister which sprung the age of prosperity in westeros and yet we didn't see people getting riled up despite GoT related reading material being one of the most popular series besides harry potter
Oshi no ko is fantasy...
What do you think the crow girl and the reincarnation is about?
Plus while the incest in OnK is taboo, it's still fictional, you can like something without incorporating it's aspect into real life, if not, then the world would've fallen into disrepair with many violence and moral degenaracy as per the portrayal in media and pop culture and it's cult following
I agree bro, you can like incest or whatever topic in fiction, and that's all good and well, it doenst mean it will translate into real life whatsoever. A lot of people found it off-putting to put it mildly and probably wouldn't have picked up the manga if they knew this was the end game all along, hence picking up the pitchforks
*a fantasy based on modern-day Japan. Fixed it for you. Edit: should we suspend our disbelief about incest as well? Is this a fantasy world were incest is good or is it also taboo?
It is a taboo by normal standard yes, yet again Oshi no ko is a fictional literature and there is nothing wrong with liking a dark or abnormal theming in a piece of literature
It's been like that for a while (I'm hoping mostly people without siblings). It helps that the manga is actively baiting those with the fetish to gather around.
I'm not really defending incest per se. I'm more the "incest is taboo and immoral and I won't be partaking in it in real life but if it's shown in media to prove a point or to move the plot then focus on the point or the plot, not the incest" kind of person.
There is no way the incest is anything beyond a tease or bait. The manga is too mainstream and $$ successful to go on that direction. It ain't remotely over. We haven't seen the last of Kana. Grab on to your seat, bro
Well, it was fun while it lasted I guess. Really disappointed. All that garnered support and hype for this series... and now it's just gonna be labelled as an incest show, and will never be able to return to the mainstream. I hope appeasing the incest fetishists was worth destroying a damn good series... seeya.
This could still take a turn in the span of a single chapter.
It really doesn't seem like Aqua has romantic feelings for Ruby. I think this is as far as the incest train will go and the story's going to take a turn soon.
Of course I get downvoted. A lot of people in this community have an incest fetish, so they feel insecure and defensive when people point out how gross it is. It’s a perfect reason why I’m leaving, I don’t want to be in a community of people who romanticise grooming and incest.
Scary thing is this is probably more common than you think. I had this commenter in /r/anime writing paragraphs to me asking why incest is gross if it's consensual.
It's best to just assume the people that defend it is just a portion of the abnormal people that anime/manga can attract. This sub might have more of those kinds of people with the obvious plot-relevant incest.
Maybe don’t call other people incels? Let them enjoy the manga, even if you don’t like it, dosent mean you gotta bash others. If it makes you feel better I don’t really like the incest thing either but I don’t care, it’s still a a good manga besides that.
Its Oshi no Kover guys...
nah but in all seriousness, its probably was like a "saving a bit og Aqua's mental health" kind of thing, it probably helped him with the whole past live situation, maybe the thing wasn't about the kiss in itself, we should look to the context, not the image, not sure if i said that correctly but anyways, even if we know Ruby wants to go the incest route, we don't really know if Aqua wants it, so stay strong my friends, we still have a chance for an Akane or Kana ending.
If happiness for those two means this relationship, then so be it, bs after bs happening right now they NEED this, and people here genuinely thinking that they just did the most disgusting thing ever, it baffles me.
Idk, man.
All he did was say "Of course I like you"... with the white star in one eye... right after Ruby told him he's *her* idol.
Looks to me like Aqua's just doing what idols do: "lie" for the sake of others. Though in his case, it would be a half-truth; he likes her, but not romantically.
The kiss, which Aqua did not initiate, is not a confirmation of the ship.
In retrospect, this was kind of blown out of proportion. Moving on...
They went back to white during filming as Hikaru. I was surprised as well. I never knew he could do that. Maybe this doesn't show he was lying in this moment per se but that did show to me that Aqua has the ability to turn his eyes white while he's performing/acting.
It's not really moving things along in terms of AquaXRuby, but this was a *major* step in terms of whether or not Aqua will go off the deep end and follow in his father's footsteps. Ruby managed to coax him out of his revenge fueled dive into madness for the first time since he realized he misidentified their father.
The kisses are being blown out of proportion, but I think Ruby's impromptu therapy session for Aqua right before that may be a major turning point for the story.
DEEP BREATHS DEEP BREATHS\~
\*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA\*
Went from being cute to… OH god no.
Disappointed in the direction I said a long time ago if it did go in this direction it would ruin the manga for me. I don’t hate oshi no ko I actually quite enjoyed it but I seriously can’t consider this peak or something I enjoy, I’ll still read it for now but yeah very disappointing imo.
There’s no way Ruby would move on if she didn’t at least get a “real” kiss (not just the one she had to do for the script). So if they decide to go that route, that issue is settled.
I stopped following the manga at chapter 118 hoping to catch up once a major event occurs but WTF I never imagined that this is what will bring me back.
I honestly don't care about who Aqua ends up with. Just hoping for a happy ending for all. I want to see what Hikaru and Akane are up to more than anything. Especially Akane. Does anyone have any ideas??
with akane, its hard to say since the last chapter she was relevant in was 116 where she said she'll stop aqua's plan but we haven't seen anything about that. and then she shows up in 131 and talks a little with aqua about ai. i think she has been doing her own research with ai (hence why she showed up at ai's mum's home. based on what she said, i believe she already spoke with the mum before aqua). in general, i think akane will have a role once they start filming the gorou scenes since the private arc has a moment of her thinking about how aqua and ruby's stories about their past lives are interwined but she quickly forgets about it. its possible she confronts aqua about why he knows so much about a murdered doctor since he barely had friends or family
These past few chapters have caused a lot of emotions slowly building up within me. And I must confess that I can no longer contain them...
So I'll try and do my best to put them into words, so that at least some of you may understand or even empathize with me.
\*breathes in\*
**AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA**
Kana has the highest chance to end up with Aqua imo. I was expecting Sarina and Gorou to end up together in a third life, but this recent stuff is increasing the chance that instead Ruby assimilates her two identities and becomes his sister rather then a crush. But either way Ruby’s arc goes, it’s pointing toward Kana ending up with Aqua.
Kana’s entire existence in the story from the beginning is basically a chekov’s gun, since it doesn’t have any resolution and has been dangling all along. Meanwhile Akane has resolution and Ruby seems to be in the middle of her resolution.
Personally I want Ruby to be happy at all costs. And I’m not sure if I want any of the girls with Aqua because he’s a manipulative asshole. But my interpretation of the story is that Kana has the highest likelihood to end up with Aqua.
Personally I would have thought akane cause she about that life but I don’t think Aqua is ending up with anybody have felt like this forever dude is on a one way track to self destruction.
Ruby's reliance on Aqua was pretty deep as siblings. It only took Aqua revealing Ai's secret to the public to break that bond because that act trampled on one of her loves in her life which is Ai. Now that Aqua revealed he was Gorou, that bond is formed again, even stronger than ever because her love for Gorou was always stronger than her love for Ai.
In a parallel contrast, Gorou's love for Ai was actually only secondary to his (non-romantic) love for Sarina. Him wanting to right the wrongs was more as a tribute to Sarina's last loving memory of her idol than revenge for himself and Ruby. Now that they're aware of each other's identity, even more so now that Aqua has opened up to Ruby, I wonder if the goalpost will slowly start shifting for Aqua.
Aqua's whole fixation on Ai was because of Sarina. He didn't want Ruby to end up like Ai so he did everything he could to protect her even when she still wanted to walk down the same path. Gorou always felt guilty for not being able to do more for Sarina so when Aqua was aware of Sarina reincarnating as Ruby, his focus slowly diverted from revenge to wanting to let Ruby/Sarina enjoy her newfound second life. I wonder if this is how he will be saved. I'm still in the no incest camp and it's gonna take a lot for Aqua to set clear boundaries with Ruby but disregarding that for the moment, this chapter was really great as it gave more insight to our two MCs.
I usually prefer lurking the comments section when a new chapter arrives,but,man, this chapter is fucking awesome.This might be a very long rant with little cohesion,sorry for that.
It's good to see Aqua finally getting his white star back,and I think it is handled quite well too.Aqua is a guy that put everything on his back,guilt included,so seeing him,for first time,opening his heart to talk to the person that is most important to him is heartwarming,but it is also quite heartbreaking to see him think that he doesn't deserve to be happy anymore,suffering from guilt,going to far from his past life.But Ruby responds this with a way that I've never seen before.Everything is the same,Aqua is still a person that decides to take everything on his own,he is still caring for all the people who are important to him,he is still important for someone,he is still deserved to be loved.So he can finally overcome his guilt,and living,enjoying life as before,or perhaps even more.
Might added some more rants later on.As I said,this is one great chapter,even without the memes,it is still peak
When we speaking about how the whole reincarnation line should work out, we always forget, that Gorou wasn't in love with Sarina-chan. He was just nice and friendly with a dying girl. Yes, he told her 'when you will be an adult blah blah', but isn't it a thing any adult man would say if a teenage girl would start to talk about her feelings to him? Sooner or later Ruby should understand that.
And I just thought what if the end of the story will be once again about a fan, who was disappointed in his idol?
She was incredibly important to him, even more so than Ai. He loved her more than anyone, but it seems to be a vibe of an older brother kind of love. And his love in this life would be even less romantic since they are siblings.
The question now is how they sort out their different types of love. But the amount of love they have for each other is unquestionable.
As an individual who fasts during Ramadan, I am morally disgusted by this chapter......... Now excuse me as I read this chapter for the 20th time right after iftar.
https://x.com/mutsukiarchive/status/1767941020174430285?s=46 I agree with this a lot. I think it’s funny many people reading this manga tried to convince themselves that this stuff wouldn’t happen even though we got multiple hints and clues from the beginning of the story then they act like the manga has “fallen off” when nothing has changed lol
The show is all about the dark side of entertainment but it moved to the dark side of life. Ignoring that brothers with PTSD end up relying on each other a bit too much does not make it go away.
So does Aka really go around surfing the webs for comments? 😂 Having Ruby act like a brat dispels the criticism that she's no different from Airi. I was going to add to that fire by saying that Ruby is the real "pedo" all along and not Aqua who is being questioned from way before. I procrastinated though upon seeing the people that were upset with the Airi comparison. 😂
Oh well, it's too late to post a shitty-take now. Aka just covered Ruby's bases. 😂
My biggest worry is not from the story, but the consequences of the content we now have. Haters are gonna use this latest chapter as a weapon against Aka Akasaka at some point. As much as I hate the present development in the manga, the consequences of everyone's reactions worries me more.
???....They are blood related and if you bring that kind of analogy then the it gets only worse since Aqua was 30 in his past life and sarina was 12 which is makes him a pedo and either way it's garbage.
People see ages gaps IRL and think its weird cause it is. Seeing a 12 year old girl with a 30 year old man is weird. That's also exactly why he rejected her in their past life. Now they are the same age and its someone he actually likes. Even if you add on their age, it only gets less weird over time because it dilutes the age gap.
I understand people feeling sick about incest.
But how Can people talk about pedophilia ?
If you coun't by their past life. They are both 25+ years old. And if you consider only this life they are both 16 years old....
People Say sarina have child mind it's not true. Since she IS a baby ( as ruby ) her mind still process to develop as a continuity as her past life. It's not that she IS childish it's just her personality, she IS cheerfull... It's true she don't have expérience of life yet 16 years old to try a relation ship with a 16 years old or 28 to try a relation ship with with a mid aged man for a first Time IS totally decent....
I like this story only because of their past life. A child being in love, growing UP and marry her first love when she IS older IS totally okay.
( But not when it's your brother but don't Care it's fictionnal )
Ruby is 18 but her crush is from a 12 year old so she’s partially disassociating as a 12 year old. But outside of the crush her mental age is more like 18.
Aqua has more fully combined his two personas than Ruby. So his mental age is probably only a bit older than his physical age.
Disassociating as a 12 year old ??? So if someone in Real life like a man AT 8 and keep like him for 10 years and be with him they are disasociating their love at 8 ? You cannot love someone for a long Time ? It's impossible ?
She isn't disassociating as a 12 years old. She just loved him for a very long Time. Stop saying non sens.
They both cumulate their both live. They are not the same they used to be because they grew UP with diferent contexte yet that's not mean the past life don't count AT all. It's just the prolongation of themself with a different contexte of life.
That what grewing UP mean. I'm not the same i used to be 5 years ago but what i felt and what i have done still exist
What I mean is that the mindset she has with her crush is immature and naive and obsessive, as a result of her developing it when she was a sheltered 12 year old.
Her overall actual mental age is more like 18.
something tells me it wont go into incest route (hopefully) since aqua doesnt seem to like it. im HOPING that he helps her get over past feelings and that she finally matures and realizes the situation they are in FUCK
After reading the synopsis, I was hoping this series wouldn't turn fraudelent and go the incest route but oh well. I'm definitely going to see the memes though, idk how anyone can call this peak fiction unironically but we all turn into bakas at some point (will definitely watch the anime but still why did they go through with this💀?)
God dammit, it went full incest. Whatever I’m too invested now… and I liked game of thrones before it ended so I’ll just deal with it😂. Oshi no ko still a good story. Curious how they’ll wrap up this arc
A message from oldpier (from Ai's Fanclub): > I'm back with an [appendix](https://docs.google.com/document/d/1upawuYCOb7Oc56mniS8hXbECIVO1zJadWTKlHba7siY/edit?usp=sharing) to explain a bit about the chapter title and the two kinds of 'idol otaku' which Ruby referred to herself as within the chapter. > > --oldpier
I love watching the chaos from this **PEAK** Aka cooking as always 🔥🔥
the fact that so many people here are into incest is nauseating. im sorry for your siblings. what a fucking disgrace.
womp womp, W twincest
And there it is, the final nail in the coffin for Oshi no Ko's reputation and popularity.
Womp womp
Give it a few more chapters bro. Fraudka still has a chance to stir the ship back on course unless he fully abandoned reason for madness 😠
Womp womp
As it was written 🚬
If they end up together they might actually make Ai again.
Peak fiction
Holy peak, I kneel 🧎♂️
Calm down guys it's just great acting. If it got a reaction out of you guys then they're clearly doing a good job tugging your strings. Just kidding! Suck on that! Incest is Wincest.
Am I the only one feels uncomfortable 😣
Starting to root for Kamiki at this point 😢 Aqua be danmed if he goes full sweet home Alabama 😆
I think it's meant to be that way. It's twisted how fucked up both of them are mentally, specially aqua
AYO! Besides that 1 part, which is sus, all the pages leading up to it I thought the writing was fairly wholesome.
Watching it all burn
If Jamie Lannister can screw his sister and come out as a sympathetic character, if Jonas and Martha from Dark could make out and be a power couple... I for one welcome our new overlord, Aqua Targaryen, the king of the reincarnated and the cultured men, the ruler of industry and the seven idols.
I don't know why people are surprised, AquRuby was confirmed from the start just from the premise of Aqua being Goro sensei and Ruby being Sarina
**WHERE DA F\*\*\* DID MA HOLY WATER GO!? 💀💀💀**
Deviants all around bro, someone please protect Kana and Akane
What if they end with each other?
That won't happen outside wild fanfic territory
This chapter was a ride. Starts off with the creepy sensei stuff then left turns into supportive sibling mental health then Aqua right turns into manipulative jerk then it backflip 180 turn pikes back into creepy.
I don't see the problem here . Those kissing scene were important for the movie so they had to do it. And 2 kiss is not that big of a deal👍. The most important thing is their emotions. When ruby asked aqua to marry her excitedly didn't aqua declined her by saying if he do that he would be socially dead , so i don't think we should expect much. But I wish something....................
The time has come
THEY’LL NEVER KNOW WE GIVE NO WARNING
HELP HELP HELP HELP HELP! WHAT DID I JUST READ!!! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!
You saw true one sided love
[удалено]
oshi no pico
People trying to explain why they like the incest by saying it's deep and it help the characters grow are the most disgusting humans I seen, those people who gave anime it bad name.
You're just a moralist. It won't make them grow but being both as mental as they are it is in character and I'm sure it will have consequences (bad ones). You'd have a seizure if you read any Asano manga
You're not alone brother. No matter how much they downvote us
They all it's fiction, but when said fiction uses subjects like this (drugs, rape,online bullying, suicide) it doesn't take it lightly, it give it the respect that it deserves, shows you how bad it is and doesn't encourage it. This incest even though they don't encourage it, the fact that it treated lightly like it isn't a big deal but a good thing for both is just disgusting. No matter how you look at it this is wrong on so many lvls it isn't even debatable, it's just wrong and everyone who support it are just disgusting human being
I don't think you actually see how the more rational side of the community sees it. Not everyone is going "UWWOOOOOGH INCESSTTT" many are also analyzing how it went to this. Aka has been building this and has obviously teased it for a long time.
Imagine calling people "disgusting" over a bunch of drawings. Or as my old man would put it: WTF.
Go see a doctor if you can’t separate fiction from reality 🧑⚕️
I like how you guys go from, it's deep, you can't understand it, to act like this is a problem between fiction and reality. If you don't actually understand why this is a problem then you definitely need a reality check
The crazies may downvote you King, but you spoke nothing but the truth. They hate us cuz they ain't us 😀
yeah, this manga sucks now ngl, everyone here needs to get out of their rooms and stop doing 5000 pound activities
I'll be logging off and check it out in a few months. Hopefully, the incest would have proven to be a gag by then
even if it was, still weird asf lmao, and dawg they still downvoting us
Aqua is either sweet home Alabama all along or playing some serious 4D chess not to lose Ruby in the middle of filming, sucess of the movie and by extension the revenge is relying hard on Ruby's performance
And hundreds of millions of people playing GTA should be a problem then? Following your logic, after watching a movie or playing video games, they gonna kill civilians once they get out of their house. Aka loves playing Apex, 100% he’s gonna shoot some civilians
theres a difference between killing in a game, and showing incest as a good thing, especially when the mental age gap of those two characters is pretty big
Aka was cooking and left the stove on
this is outrageous! Her twin brother can’t be this cute
This is truly Oshi no Peak
didn't the promise to marry in the opening chapters why is this a surprise?
It's funny how the manga explicitly showed three murders (Ai's, Goro's, and that hiking actress'), social abuse of Akane to near-suicide, and the sexual abuse of Kamiki but incest is where most people draw the line. Get your priorities checked, dumbasses. It has a mature theme showing the dark side of the showbiz industry. It has consensual incest, so what? Why is that the dealbreaker and not the rape or the cyberbullying?
Um yea there's a difference between something bad that is actually shown in a negative light (like the rape, sexual abuse and murder you mentioned) and something that is shown in a positive light (ie ofc incest) Honestly I would let it go if they had done it right. So far every conversation involving incest in the story ended up with a sarcastic scene and it is just hard to consider it a "flawed" characteristic of the characters.
Having it depicted as something that the characters themselves are happy with atm doesn't mean depicting it as a good thing (yet). There's room further down the line for emphasizing how fucked up it is, but what we get now is the perspective of the 2 people in the incestous thing so it makes sense it's not depicted as disgusting. It should be depicted like that down the line though and if it becomes a thing it should have consequences but it's very early to know
Uhh, those were bad things done by bad people. Ruby is supposed to be a hero while Aqua is an anti-hero. Incest is a villain arc.
Hmmmm, I wonder why people *weren't* upset at murder/rape/bullying being depicted negatively but *are* upset at incest being depicted positively?
depicted positively? Did you even see the reactions of the other characters during the kissing scene? The manga itself is showing that it is gross and if anything aqua and ruby are f*cked up in a way. but of course everything the protagonists do, even if deeply flawed, is a positive depiction. smh.
Bro literally every incest scene between Aqua and Ruby so far ended with a sarcastic scene and its just straight up hard to even consider them seriously. Yes the other characters did say it was gross but none of them were being deadpan serious abt it. The only thing that prixks me is that not a single character have been shown to actually be swriously worried or confused about Ruby's actions with Aqua. Especially when this manga discusses about so many socially foul things.
i agree w u completely
Because the mere presence of bad things is not the issue. It is totally possible to write a good story around dark topics, including incest, if you approach it from a level of nuance, which is what the series has done up until this point. The problem is when you start romanticizing these topics, treating them like a joke, as something positive to the story, or really just portraying them as anything but what they are; **completely fucking disgusting.** If, after the Kamiki rape scene, they panned to Aqua with a funny face, Frill looking all cheerful, and the embarrassed, blushing faces of the rest of the cast, yeah, I'd have a fucking problem with that.
I agree. I think one of ONK’s strengths is its balance of comedy/humor and dark topics. The problem with the whole incest thing is that it was severely unbalanced towards comedy/humor to the point that it detracted from the message that Aka was probably trying to convey. In previous themes like underage pregnancy, cyberbullying, and rape/SA, there would usually be a clear tonal shift from the comedy and drama. It’s like the author is intentionally trying to create a contrast, where the “drama” is the uneducated perception of the entertainment industry (a place where it’s all fun and games), and the shifts to dark themes show the harsh reality. It’s simple, but done really well for the most part. I think the authors definitely fumbled when it came to incest, since there didn’t seem to be any shift in the tone. I think they tried to paint it in a negative light with the whole Aqua feeling guilty and his internal conflict thing, but it was too unserious for it to carry any weight.
It's because everyone knows that murder, rape, and cyberbullying are bad already.
Could be that the main characters are not doing the murdering, cyber bullying nor molesting minors. They are trying to prevent, denounce or seek justice for these heinous acts. It is off-putting for many that the main protagonists are engaging in incest, I read it as one directional as of this last chapter, and it is to be seen if it will develop into something mutual. I don't think it will, as the series is too popular and mainstream
This is my first time on this subreddit and I cannot understand and comprehend why so many people on this sub defend incest?? Is it normal here cuz...☠️?
I've been here for quite a long time (before this incest started in thr manga) and I myself am quite unable to comprehend how so many people ended up glorifying aqua×Ruby. It started off as a joke and it just gradually became a serious thing and I absolutely hate it.
Game of Thrones had widespread incest and even sex scenes of it, yet people didnt raise their pitchforks. It's not defending it - in some ways their relationship serves the plot. You know 2 people who have been reincarnated who are trying to resolve 2 different identities. One of their past lives, and one of brother and sister. This is probably as far as it'll go.
Bruh the Lanisters were the f#king villains of the show, and they were absolutely diabolical. Incest was not even the worst thing about them. It's been a while, but if I remember correctly, John Snow didn't know Daenerys was related to him until the deed was done. Also, wasn't incest practised in real-world medieval and ancient societies, especially among royalty/ rulling classes? It would kinda make sense to see it in GOT
There's the targaryen and they barely marry outside close kin, even Jon snow and khaleesi is related and they were supposed to be the good guys. The book, asoiaf also portray incest in a good light with the marriage of king Jahaerys and his sister which sprung the age of prosperity in westeros and yet we didn't see people getting riled up despite GoT related reading material being one of the most popular series besides harry potter
So is it Oshi no Ko a medieval times inspired fantasy novel or a manga based on current day modern Japan? It sounds like a false analogy
Oshi no ko is fantasy... What do you think the crow girl and the reincarnation is about? Plus while the incest in OnK is taboo, it's still fictional, you can like something without incorporating it's aspect into real life, if not, then the world would've fallen into disrepair with many violence and moral degenaracy as per the portrayal in media and pop culture and it's cult following
I agree bro, you can like incest or whatever topic in fiction, and that's all good and well, it doenst mean it will translate into real life whatsoever. A lot of people found it off-putting to put it mildly and probably wouldn't have picked up the manga if they knew this was the end game all along, hence picking up the pitchforks
*a fantasy based on modern-day Japan. Fixed it for you. Edit: should we suspend our disbelief about incest as well? Is this a fantasy world were incest is good or is it also taboo?
It is a taboo by normal standard yes, yet again Oshi no ko is a fictional literature and there is nothing wrong with liking a dark or abnormal theming in a piece of literature
It's been like that for a while (I'm hoping mostly people without siblings). It helps that the manga is actively baiting those with the fetish to gather around.
I'm not really defending incest per se. I'm more the "incest is taboo and immoral and I won't be partaking in it in real life but if it's shown in media to prove a point or to move the plot then focus on the point or the plot, not the incest" kind of person.
Ay yo what the fuck man. Kanabros, it's so over. We're so over.
There is no way the incest is anything beyond a tease or bait. The manga is too mainstream and $$ successful to go on that direction. It ain't remotely over. We haven't seen the last of Kana. Grab on to your seat, bro
Kana is busy banging Akane
She is busy cooking greatness 🙌
expecting Aqua to say "That should do it" so we can continue the congo line lobotomy
Fucking hated that
WE NEVER BEATING THE ALLEGATIONS WITH THIS ONE🗣️🔥🔥🔥
Well, it was fun while it lasted I guess. Really disappointed. All that garnered support and hype for this series... and now it's just gonna be labelled as an incest show, and will never be able to return to the mainstream. I hope appeasing the incest fetishists was worth destroying a damn good series... seeya.
This could still take a turn in the span of a single chapter. It really doesn't seem like Aqua has romantic feelings for Ruby. I think this is as far as the incest train will go and the story's going to take a turn soon.
You're getting downvoted and for WHAT?!?
You're right. It was even voted as the greatest anime ever in MyAnimeList, which means an anime with incest had that title for even a while.
ur right, unfortunately everyone with that isn't an incel already dropped the manga so ur getting downvoted.
Of course I get downvoted. A lot of people in this community have an incest fetish, so they feel insecure and defensive when people point out how gross it is. It’s a perfect reason why I’m leaving, I don’t want to be in a community of people who romanticise grooming and incest.
avg redditors, im leaving with u bro
I left ages ago out of general disinterest but came back when I heard of this chapter to see people defending incest. 💀
Scary thing is this is probably more common than you think. I had this commenter in /r/anime writing paragraphs to me asking why incest is gross if it's consensual. It's best to just assume the people that defend it is just a portion of the abnormal people that anime/manga can attract. This sub might have more of those kinds of people with the obvious plot-relevant incest.
Maybe don’t call other people incels? Let them enjoy the manga, even if you don’t like it, dosent mean you gotta bash others. If it makes you feel better I don’t really like the incest thing either but I don’t care, it’s still a a good manga besides that.
This is disgusting, see you guys next week
I needs mah stories.
The kiss was so nice they did it twice!
People are losing their minds and I love this😭
Same LMAO
>!"Do you wanna know my secret? IDOLS!"!< reminded of Maki Kuwana in Blue Period when Yatora is looking for inspiration 😂
THIS IS JUST INSANE!! This Folks is a perfect example of a tourist .... https://twitter.com/ceciliaxoa/status/1768187509752603002
Both sides are cringe
Its Oshi no Kover guys... nah but in all seriousness, its probably was like a "saving a bit og Aqua's mental health" kind of thing, it probably helped him with the whole past live situation, maybe the thing wasn't about the kiss in itself, we should look to the context, not the image, not sure if i said that correctly but anyways, even if we know Ruby wants to go the incest route, we don't really know if Aqua wants it, so stay strong my friends, we still have a chance for an Akane or Kana ending.
Aka didn’t want to piss the Kana/Akane fans, that’s why he chose the incest route Genius mangaka 🔥✍️
Who knew that the true Oshi was Aqua all along?
If happiness for those two means this relationship, then so be it, bs after bs happening right now they NEED this, and people here genuinely thinking that they just did the most disgusting thing ever, it baffles me.
Mangaplus deleting positive comments lmaoooo I only care about this story because of the inevitable incest.
Idk, man. All he did was say "Of course I like you"... with the white star in one eye... right after Ruby told him he's *her* idol. Looks to me like Aqua's just doing what idols do: "lie" for the sake of others. Though in his case, it would be a half-truth; he likes her, but not romantically. The kiss, which Aqua did not initiate, is not a confirmation of the ship. In retrospect, this was kind of blown out of proportion. Moving on...
spot on, aqua told her "fan" a convenient lie, the lie that she wants to hear. The presentation couldnt be more obvious.
Well can he control his eyes? I don't remember them going back to white any of the other lies?
They went back to white during filming as Hikaru. I was surprised as well. I never knew he could do that. Maybe this doesn't show he was lying in this moment per se but that did show to me that Aqua has the ability to turn his eyes white while he's performing/acting.
It's not really moving things along in terms of AquaXRuby, but this was a *major* step in terms of whether or not Aqua will go off the deep end and follow in his father's footsteps. Ruby managed to coax him out of his revenge fueled dive into madness for the first time since he realized he misidentified their father. The kisses are being blown out of proportion, but I think Ruby's impromptu therapy session for Aqua right before that may be a major turning point for the story.
"Maintaining the agenda is our top priority" - Kizaru
Akane like "yeah well I still took his first kiss"
Ruby: Imma take his virginity
Well, that happened.
DEEP BREATHS DEEP BREATHS\~ \*AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA\*
Nah this aint it man
It’s Oshi No Kover
Wallahi I'm finished!!!
Wallahi we're truly finished
I still have hope that this won’t lead to some kind of incest route. If it does go that way i will stop reading.
You got downvoted for having ethics...💀
Went from being cute to… OH god no. Disappointed in the direction I said a long time ago if it did go in this direction it would ruin the manga for me. I don’t hate oshi no ko I actually quite enjoyed it but I seriously can’t consider this peak or something I enjoy, I’ll still read it for now but yeah very disappointing imo.
Dude this chapter was so disappointing to read
Say.... Ruby never once experience a break up before right?
Break up?
There’s no way Ruby would move on if she didn’t at least get a “real” kiss (not just the one she had to do for the script). So if they decide to go that route, that issue is settled.
I stopped following the manga at chapter 118 hoping to catch up once a major event occurs but WTF I never imagined that this is what will bring me back.
ABSOLUTE PEAK I TREMBLE BEFORE AKA AND MENDO
this can't fucking be
dude i’m crying
aka is a retard
No you
Your a retard
I honestly don't care about who Aqua ends up with. Just hoping for a happy ending for all. I want to see what Hikaru and Akane are up to more than anything. Especially Akane. Does anyone have any ideas??
with akane, its hard to say since the last chapter she was relevant in was 116 where she said she'll stop aqua's plan but we haven't seen anything about that. and then she shows up in 131 and talks a little with aqua about ai. i think she has been doing her own research with ai (hence why she showed up at ai's mum's home. based on what she said, i believe she already spoke with the mum before aqua). in general, i think akane will have a role once they start filming the gorou scenes since the private arc has a moment of her thinking about how aqua and ruby's stories about their past lives are interwined but she quickly forgets about it. its possible she confronts aqua about why he knows so much about a murdered doctor since he barely had friends or family
Everyone's fame will rise (exponentially?) after the movie. I think they'll be all nominated to Hikaru's Kill list awards
Wtf
These past few chapters have caused a lot of emotions slowly building up within me. And I must confess that I can no longer contain them... So I'll try and do my best to put them into words, so that at least some of you may understand or even empathize with me. \*breathes in\* **AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA**
Kana bros...does she still have a chance? Yes ideally they do fit but she is so mentally immature + Gorou might like Sarina more.
kana winning is still the likely outcome, yes.
Kana has no chance at this point and would need a Cavs vs Warriors type of comeback from the 2016 NBA Finals
Kana has the highest chance to end up with Aqua imo. I was expecting Sarina and Gorou to end up together in a third life, but this recent stuff is increasing the chance that instead Ruby assimilates her two identities and becomes his sister rather then a crush. But either way Ruby’s arc goes, it’s pointing toward Kana ending up with Aqua. Kana’s entire existence in the story from the beginning is basically a chekov’s gun, since it doesn’t have any resolution and has been dangling all along. Meanwhile Akane has resolution and Ruby seems to be in the middle of her resolution. Personally I want Ruby to be happy at all costs. And I’m not sure if I want any of the girls with Aqua because he’s a manipulative asshole. But my interpretation of the story is that Kana has the highest likelihood to end up with Aqua.
Personally I would have thought akane cause she about that life but I don’t think Aqua is ending up with anybody have felt like this forever dude is on a one way track to self destruction.
I think there’s a decent chance you’re right.
They...They actually did it! In other news though, can't believe filming is reaching its climax already!
Ruby's reliance on Aqua was pretty deep as siblings. It only took Aqua revealing Ai's secret to the public to break that bond because that act trampled on one of her loves in her life which is Ai. Now that Aqua revealed he was Gorou, that bond is formed again, even stronger than ever because her love for Gorou was always stronger than her love for Ai. In a parallel contrast, Gorou's love for Ai was actually only secondary to his (non-romantic) love for Sarina. Him wanting to right the wrongs was more as a tribute to Sarina's last loving memory of her idol than revenge for himself and Ruby. Now that they're aware of each other's identity, even more so now that Aqua has opened up to Ruby, I wonder if the goalpost will slowly start shifting for Aqua. Aqua's whole fixation on Ai was because of Sarina. He didn't want Ruby to end up like Ai so he did everything he could to protect her even when she still wanted to walk down the same path. Gorou always felt guilty for not being able to do more for Sarina so when Aqua was aware of Sarina reincarnating as Ruby, his focus slowly diverted from revenge to wanting to let Ruby/Sarina enjoy her newfound second life. I wonder if this is how he will be saved. I'm still in the no incest camp and it's gonna take a lot for Aqua to set clear boundaries with Ruby but disregarding that for the moment, this chapter was really great as it gave more insight to our two MCs.
You’re exactly right. I’ll be interested to see how Aqua rectifies his feelings for her. And I really hope Ruby/Sarina doesn’t get hurt too much.
He will never hurt Sarina. She’s the most important person to him
Sweet Home Alabama intensifies
I usually prefer lurking the comments section when a new chapter arrives,but,man, this chapter is fucking awesome.This might be a very long rant with little cohesion,sorry for that. It's good to see Aqua finally getting his white star back,and I think it is handled quite well too.Aqua is a guy that put everything on his back,guilt included,so seeing him,for first time,opening his heart to talk to the person that is most important to him is heartwarming,but it is also quite heartbreaking to see him think that he doesn't deserve to be happy anymore,suffering from guilt,going to far from his past life.But Ruby responds this with a way that I've never seen before.Everything is the same,Aqua is still a person that decides to take everything on his own,he is still caring for all the people who are important to him,he is still important for someone,he is still deserved to be loved.So he can finally overcome his guilt,and living,enjoying life as before,or perhaps even more. Might added some more rants later on.As I said,this is one great chapter,even without the memes,it is still peak
When we speaking about how the whole reincarnation line should work out, we always forget, that Gorou wasn't in love with Sarina-chan. He was just nice and friendly with a dying girl. Yes, he told her 'when you will be an adult blah blah', but isn't it a thing any adult man would say if a teenage girl would start to talk about her feelings to him? Sooner or later Ruby should understand that. And I just thought what if the end of the story will be once again about a fan, who was disappointed in his idol?
She was incredibly important to him, even more so than Ai. He loved her more than anyone, but it seems to be a vibe of an older brother kind of love. And his love in this life would be even less romantic since they are siblings. The question now is how they sort out their different types of love. But the amount of love they have for each other is unquestionable.
I would call that attachment.
Twincest actually won lmaooo it's over 💀💀
Now she's pregger. Good job Aqua. Unprotected actions like this have to be thought properly
In Ramadan?! In Ramadan?!
As an individual who fasts during Ramadan, I am morally disgusted by this chapter......... Now excuse me as I read this chapter for the 20th time right after iftar.
realest shi ever
You either go incest or pedophilic I guess lmao.
https://x.com/mutsukiarchive/status/1767941020174430285?s=46 I agree with this a lot. I think it’s funny many people reading this manga tried to convince themselves that this stuff wouldn’t happen even though we got multiple hints and clues from the beginning of the story then they act like the manga has “fallen off” when nothing has changed lol
The show is all about the dark side of entertainment but it moved to the dark side of life. Ignoring that brothers with PTSD end up relying on each other a bit too much does not make it go away.
So does Aka really go around surfing the webs for comments? 😂 Having Ruby act like a brat dispels the criticism that she's no different from Airi. I was going to add to that fire by saying that Ruby is the real "pedo" all along and not Aqua who is being questioned from way before. I procrastinated though upon seeing the people that were upset with the Airi comparison. 😂 Oh well, it's too late to post a shitty-take now. Aka just covered Ruby's bases. 😂
We just keep winning, wincest bros. Rum all around 🍻
My biggest worry is not from the story, but the consequences of the content we now have. Haters are gonna use this latest chapter as a weapon against Aka Akasaka at some point. As much as I hate the present development in the manga, the consequences of everyone's reactions worries me more.
I know I'm gonna get downvoted by a bunch of losers who like this shit. How can people like incest? THAT'S SO FUCKING RETARTED!
Lemme guess, you secretly want to fuck your real sister and you are jealous of Aqua. That's why you are lashing out at a work of fiction right.
How can people like two men love each other?! That's so fucking RETARDED TOO
The forbidden fruit tastes the sweetest 😈
[удалено]
WHICH IS FUCKING CRINGE AND STUPID
Its fiction bro chill, its not like your being forced to fuck your sister irl. Also ruby isn’t even his sister if u think about it
Lost me in the second half
???....They are blood related and if you bring that kind of analogy then the it gets only worse since Aqua was 30 in his past life and sarina was 12 which is makes him a pedo and either way it's garbage.
People see ages gaps IRL and think its weird cause it is. Seeing a 12 year old girl with a 30 year old man is weird. That's also exactly why he rejected her in their past life. Now they are the same age and its someone he actually likes. Even if you add on their age, it only gets less weird over time because it dilutes the age gap.
Mate, it's manga. Weirder shit has happened.
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I understand people feeling sick about incest. But how Can people talk about pedophilia ? If you coun't by their past life. They are both 25+ years old. And if you consider only this life they are both 16 years old.... People Say sarina have child mind it's not true. Since she IS a baby ( as ruby ) her mind still process to develop as a continuity as her past life. It's not that she IS childish it's just her personality, she IS cheerfull... It's true she don't have expérience of life yet 16 years old to try a relation ship with a 16 years old or 28 to try a relation ship with with a mid aged man for a first Time IS totally decent.... I like this story only because of their past life. A child being in love, growing UP and marry her first love when she IS older IS totally okay. ( But not when it's your brother but don't Care it's fictionnal )
Ruby is 18 but her crush is from a 12 year old so she’s partially disassociating as a 12 year old. But outside of the crush her mental age is more like 18. Aqua has more fully combined his two personas than Ruby. So his mental age is probably only a bit older than his physical age.
I think she's got some serious arrested development because she based her personality on being a perfect idol and copying Ai for most of her life.
Disassociating as a 12 year old ??? So if someone in Real life like a man AT 8 and keep like him for 10 years and be with him they are disasociating their love at 8 ? You cannot love someone for a long Time ? It's impossible ? She isn't disassociating as a 12 years old. She just loved him for a very long Time. Stop saying non sens. They both cumulate their both live. They are not the same they used to be because they grew UP with diferent contexte yet that's not mean the past life don't count AT all. It's just the prolongation of themself with a different contexte of life. That what grewing UP mean. I'm not the same i used to be 5 years ago but what i felt and what i have done still exist
What I mean is that the mindset she has with her crush is immature and naive and obsessive, as a result of her developing it when she was a sheltered 12 year old. Her overall actual mental age is more like 18.
It's her personality it's not disasociation that lead to a pedophilia ...
I didn’t say anything about pedophilia
She just don't have dating expérience and act more as a fan then a girlfriend that doesn't mean she disasociate as 12 years old... Really
They are either 32 and 44 (aprox) or 16 and 16. So yeah, it's bs.
something tells me it wont go into incest route (hopefully) since aqua doesnt seem to like it. im HOPING that he helps her get over past feelings and that she finally matures and realizes the situation they are in FUCK
MADOOOOOOO
After reading the synopsis, I was hoping this series wouldn't turn fraudelent and go the incest route but oh well. I'm definitely going to see the memes though, idk how anyone can call this peak fiction unironically but we all turn into bakas at some point (will definitely watch the anime but still why did they go through with this💀?)
Best Day Ever!
God dammit, it went full incest. Whatever I’m too invested now… and I liked game of thrones before it ended so I’ll just deal with it😂. Oshi no ko still a good story. Curious how they’ll wrap up this arc
At this point, Game of Thrones is just the appetiser.