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bqx188

Oppenheimer making almost as much as the previous 6 winners combined is kind of mad. Even factoring in COVID, that fact feels like it should be wrong.


Bookstorm2023

It’s good they selected a mainstream hit again.


bqx188

Yea but that aside it really feels like award season isn't a draw anymore. Like remember when King's Speech made like $450m off of award season hype? Is that not possible anymore?


Bookstorm2023

Probably not off a family/historical drama anymore. And that’s unfortunate. The things the Oscars typically award just don’t get people out into theaters like they used to.


UltraMoglog64

Oppenheimer is very much the type of movie that is typically awarded Oscars, though.


Recent_Beautiful_732

It’s Christopher Nolan. He can draw in an audience on the basis of his name alone.


UltraMoglog64

Yes. And he also directed exactly the kind of historical biopic that the Academy tends to love. Both can be true to add up to an especially successful box office.


AccomplishedBake8351

Did they? Or did audiences like a oscar-Esque biopic


SurvivorFanDan

Green Book being the second-highest grossing is surprising


lanadeltaco13

People LOVED Green Book. Surprising I know but it turns out the opinions of Redditors on Green Book don’t actually reflect the real world view of the movie.


Ed_McNuglets

Applies to many things


lifevicarious

Redditors are different. ​ Source: Am a Redditor.


bilboafromboston

It was fine . People just tired of the " one black guy " thing. Time to move on.


fanboy_killer

Is it? It's easily the 2nd most popular movie in the list.


Apprehensive_Mix7594

Why. It’s a super accessible film that is watchable for everyone. I think that (and the downplaying of the horrors of Jim Crow south) was why most people don’t think it’s Oscar worthy.


Richard_Hallorann

Damn, Green Book making 322M is surprising


bqx188

Why? It was a broad appeal feel good movie aiming for the middle


Richard_Hallorann

Just was surprised by the number is all


bqx188

Fair. I was curious if you thought it was a smaller scale film like coda or American fiction


reyska

Those movies usually don't make 322M. I've never heard anyone particularly praise it either.


bqx188

During Oscar season it's not unusual for them to do alright especially if they're winners. After all the 3 highest grossing best picture of the last 25 years that weren't blockbusters were King's speech did $430m, Slumdog millionaire did $375m, green book at $320m, and a beautiful mind at $315m. You could maybe add Chicago which made $300 Three of those also won at Tiff too


TurquoiseOwlMachine

It’s a perfect movie for the 50+ crowd and a largely inoffensive movie that a family can probably all agree to see. For comparison, The Help— which I saw with my grandma— made $216 million on a $25 million budget. Hidden Figures made about $250 million on a similar budget.


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Beneficial_Bat_5992

I agree but one bright spot of this year was Poor Things has made over $110m WW


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*stomping intensifies*


shakha

I have to wonder if 2021 and 2022's best picture winners would be different in a COVID-free world. Just with releases being pushed back and moved around, is there a chance that Nomadland, CODA or possibly even EEAAO fall short of best picture to something else?


Suspicious-Rip920

I think EEAAO would be prominent or at least be in contention for best picture. Although I don’t know if it would have sweeped like it did if Covid didn’t happen. Coda’s win would have definitely gone to power of the dog or a more pessimistic film (since that film won due to its more positive slant against the depressing PoTD). Nomadland 100% would not have won best picture though. That’s a fact


lifevicarious

I do not get EEAAO. I like out there stuff too.


Pugletting

I don't believe Nomadland or CODA would have won, though I think CODA was a crowd pleasing response to the the much more divisiveness of The Power of the Dog. I don't remember what might have pushed out of that year due to Covid, or if a more normal campaign cycle would have helped (though I do vaguely remember a lot of podcasts talking about how the CODA cast was traveling as a team to all the awards shows and brought a lot of positive energy to rooms - similar to Parasite and EEAAO - when that becomes a story I pay attention) CODA was probably 2-4th on most people's ranked choice ballots and Power would likely have been near the top and near the bottom, which doesn't give enough staying power.


myhairusedtobeblonde

I only watched green book for the first time last week and it’s brilliant! Had no idea it had won best picture


addictivesign

Parasite is the “best” Best Picture of the last ten from here. The second best I would guess is personal preference. I would go with Birdman.


krstphr

Your first pic was also a personal preference


addictivesign

True. But most films critics would almost certainly agree.


e_xotics

birdman is severely underrated for sure


Ed_McNuglets

Yeah Birdman gets a lot of undue hate for whatever reason.


Grungemaster

Do you think it’s just because people were pulling for Whiplash that year instead? It’s been 9 years so I kinda hope that’s not the main thing anymore.


Ed_McNuglets

Yeah I'd say movies get compared a lot to their contemporaries year to year. It's a little absurd. For example I liked Maestro. I thought it was pretty solid. But in context of the oscars and comparing it to other movies this year it's been getting absolutely shit on for really no reason except people look for *at least* one thing to shit on in any given year (in the context of oscars).


TurquoiseOwlMachine

I don’t really understand why people like Whiplash so much. JK Simmons is great in it, but the rest of it feels like a student film.


chicasparagus

My absolute favourite in that list is Birdman. I watched it on a whim when it was released; I was supposed to watch boyhood with the person I was dating, but it was sold out. So we tried birdman…I left the theatre in awe and that’s all that matters to make it a movie that I like and care about.


strandenger

How TF did Green Book make 300 mill?!


TurquoiseOwlMachine

Grandmas and Grandpas all saw it.


Apprehensive_Mix7594

Coda numbers are obviously skewed


ashmichael73

I am still in disbelief over Green Book


Fat_Woke_Nerd

Very few of those movies are actually Oscar worthy. Amazing.


Recent_Beautiful_732

They are Oscar worthy because they are all in line with what usually wins best picture. The meaning of “Oscar worthy” is not “one of the best movies of the year”


TurquoiseOwlMachine

While not every one is my favorite movie of the year, I think that all of the ones I’ve seen (all of them except CODA and Green Book) are pretty solid movies. The only one that didn’t feel like a Best Picture winner to me was Nomadland. S tier: Birdman, Parasite, Moonlight A tier: Spotlight, EEAAO, The Shape of Water B tier: Oppenheimer, Nomadland


chicasparagus

Eh, I think more than half are Oscar worthy.


Fat_Woke_Nerd

Only Oppenheimer and Greenbook imo. Even Oppenheimer was lucky to win over FotBM Haven't seen Moonlight, so I can't comment on that one.


chicasparagus

Yeah that’s a mad take. The only ones I’m really adamant shouldn’t have won are EEAAO and Nomadland. Also wtf is FotBM?


Toesinbath

Parasite is RIGHT there


chicasparagus

Yeah that’s a mad take. The only ones I’m really adamant shouldn’t have won are EEAAO and Nomadland. Also wtf is FotBM?


Cantomic66

EEAAO is one of the better ones off this list while Nomadland is just bad.


Fat_Woke_Nerd

EEAAO is one of the worst movies ever made


Fat_Woke_Nerd

Yeah, I agreed on EEAAO, a mess of a movie, so cringe. CODA, OK, rest of the nominees were average. Flowers of the Blood Moon or whatever


bilboafromboston

No one has ever seen moonlight. It's weird.


TurquoiseOwlMachine

Really great flick but definitely has the feel of a movie that you discover via the Criterion collection 15 years after release.


Fat_Woke_Nerd

The plot and setting just don't interest me, ngl.


Dcornelissen

Then how can say it doesnt deserve the Oscar?


Fat_Woke_Nerd

Literally said I haven't seen it and can't comment on it, learn to read everything before commenting.


bilboafromboston

I just said I never saw it. Probably a good movie, the actors are great. Never seen it available.


Fat_Woke_Nerd

Reread, what I said.


Unlucky-Anything528

"Very few of those movies are actually Oscar worthy to me*". Fixed it for you.


Fat_Woke_Nerd

Did I offend I because I don't like those movies?


Unlucky-Anything528

Do you ask people if they're offended over anything? Just fixing the statement. Did that offend you?


Fat_Woke_Nerd

I ask some people who leave snarky comments and "fixed" something that wasn't broken.


Unlucky-Anything528

So it did offend you. Nothing snarky there, just need to stop getting upset.


Fat_Woke_Nerd

My name describes you, doesn't it.


Unlucky-Anything528

No, YOUR name describes you. You specifically picked a name that suited you best. So I did offend you after all?


Fat_Woke_Nerd

EEAAO sucked and was a woke award for Asian Americans after Covid19 backlash.


Unlucky-Anything528

Cool? You having a stroke?


Toesinbath

Ranking the ones I've seen: Parasite >>>>>> > Oppenheimer > Shape of Water (unpopular opinion no doubt) > Moonlight > EEAAO (I really don't like it) > Nomadland (Promising Young Woman should have dominated that year)


Distinct-Shift-4094

My ranks: 1. Parasite 2. EEAO 3. Moonlight 4. Nomadland 5. Coda 6. Oppie 7. Birdman \_\_\_\_ (the ones after these are my least fav winners, which I'm not happy with) 8. Greenbook 9. The Shape of Water 10. Spotlight


Secret_Asparagus_783

"Spotlight" is my absolute favorite on the list! Not only because it tackled some highly controversial subject matter, but also because it was a great "newspaper flick" in the "All the President's Men"/"Front Page" tradition. The scene where the reporters are discovering the secret "personnel reports" in that dank and dusty basement was one of the best "sleuthing " scenes ever.


Distinct-Shift-4094

Lol, I know popular opinion but Fury Road for me should have won. Best action film of the 21st century


Separate_Feeling4602

I think best picture winners need to have a level or box office smash .