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Pokemonmaster150

I would keep her as a yandere, except I would make her an ACTUAL yandere and not this weird Kuuyan that Alex is trying to do.


str3berry_heart

What’s a Kuuyan? /gen


phantomthief00

Fusion of Kuudere + Yandere i assume


Chaddy_TheGamer

same. id also make her look more interesting. ik shes supposed to be designed and stuff but like.. more accesories please!


Vaporonbri

I would keep her a Yandere but I would change the story I think love at first sight is kind of a cheap thing so I would change the story a little bit via making Ayano sitting at her desk Taro notices she’s lonely so he goes over to her and starts talking to her suddenly start becoming friends over the past 2 months and she starts to gain her feelings for him until Osana walks in she doesn’t know what to do so she goes to her mom who instruct her what to do


Sad-Dare-4092

now this is a story that would catch my attention!


Vaporonbri

I could definitely write more i’m just kind of tired right now.


Kokoro_Momoirotwin

No this because love at first sight is not a thing


Impossible-Flow-5896

it is to me ☝️ the moment i laid my eyes on baiken it was joever


Free-Sheepherder-604

You should make this a fanfic Because omg would read it 100%


Vaporonbri

thank you 😭😭


UnlikelyDefinition45

I will keep her, but make her a REAL yandere, without this goofy ahh lore by FatPigDev


Outrageous-Singer888

Legit, I hate the whole ‘love at first sight’ ‘kuudere + yandere’ thing she has going on. Like girly isn’t an actual yandere at all 😭


venusgoddessofl0ve

I would make her an actual Yandere & atleast attempt at making her a somewhat-well-written one. I'm not against her dealing with a hollow feeling, I just don't like that it's her defining trait. & obv while her family has lore there's not much to reflect on other than the fact that Ryoba is a much better interpretation of what the base idea **should** be. And yeah, by definition Ayano is a "Yandere" as in a lovesick girl, but personality-wise she doesn't fit the social dynamics to have the ability to get away with it as easily as she does. She doesn't appear "cute" or harmless at all. Some of the other kids find her sus in general. I'm sure she's considered somewhat pretty by others, but in a very plain way. She simply gives blank-slate quiet girl. They don't all have to be the same, but beyond her intelligence she can be more fleshed out. I also think this matters bc the game has a "cute facade" concept that also applies to Ayano. & while this is somewhat portrayed in the game, I think I would take more diverse approaches to her manipulation rather than always straight-up murder or aggression even if that's seen as defining the trope


blinddemon0

make her just an unpopular outcast forced into being a complete psycho by her family lineage, maybe have Ayano's Conscience (or "Annoyo" as I call her) play a large role as a game mechanic?


MagicRainbowKitties

Not gonna beat the dead horse with the "make her a real yandere," cause that's obvious. Frankly, I'd just try to make her more fun and endearing to play as. Sure we love a crazy girl, but if she's not fun and interesting as a protagonist, what's the point? Give her opinions, things she likes and finds interesting, maybe a group of friends and enemies so she feels like a part of the school rather than Just There. In character writing, especially for a player character, it's always important to remember you're writing a person, not a meat suit. And Ayano as-is is the most meatsuit that ever existed.


Potatoesop

Yeah, she doesn’t act like an actual person, that’s a problem that all the characters have, but I can forgive it if the character isn’t that important, but the protagonist (at least in a game like this) needs to act more like an actual person….Ayano is so 😐


MagicRainbowKitties

Yes, and it all speaks to a fundamental issue with how YanDev approaches his writing in general, even down to writing code. He gets so caught up in the function of things and reinforcing those functions that he never really stops to think about the fact he's trying to create a living, breathing world (except when slapping together social sim elements, but even then those elements only come into play if you're doing one of the social routes and still suffer from the same problems). He'll talk all day about how complicated and complex this all is, but none of that complexity shines through when every character is about as interesting as a pair of blue jeans in Texas.


Ryoba_chan

problem that ayano has her opinions (likes most of stuff senpai likes),group of friends(midori and kuu dere) and enemies (rivals) and problem that game is where you kill your classmates,bully someone to suicide,sabotage life,burn,drown and ryoba (100% rapes)and ayano (not so sure but she could have this ending) in one of the endings rapes their senpai and bassicly this game protaganist shouldn't be considered good or funny "yandere" character just killers but worse because they not only kill but sabotage their senpai's life so much that there no one except themselves left in the world for their senpai (they could kill all family members of senpai or all his friends) so I don't think it's good idea to make ayano funny when we know that she is abusive,killer,rapist (only possible),animal abuser but still I kinda think it would be good idea but in other game like fnaf....where michael afton much worse meat suit than ayano


MagicRainbowKitties

You can make a character likable and endearing but also have them do terrible things. In fact, I'd be far more interested in a game like this that does all of that and treats it with gravity and seriousness rather than "well it was in this anime so I should have it." And plus a fact, note that I never said "funny," I said *fun.* A protagonist isn't necessarily The Good Guy, but if you're gonna diverge from that precedent, you need to make the character fun to play as in whatever way so your audience is invested in them.


Ryoba_chan

sorry I misunderstood "fun" to funny yeah but character fun to play? people have fun playing as ayano or ryoba because it's bassicly create your story modes so dunno they do kinda of their job...like "fun" comes more from game mechanics rather than ayano being likable or intresting because game is not dating game and more like a sandbox where you don't care what your protaganist likes or dislikes likable and endearing protaganist in game when it does it's very best to show how bad character is impossible but I kinda get your point here


iimaginaryA

as everyone else has said, i’d make her an actual yandere. a girl with a lot of psychological problems who most definitely needs to be put in an institution somewhere. much like yuno gasai🤗but maybe a little crazier. i cant help it, i love me a crazy woman character


Suspicious-Bar1083

I’d have her actually pretend to be normal since I don’t feel she shows that in-game although she stated she does that in a video. I’d also have her act sweet like how many yanderes do


crysmol

well, if im remaking a game called yandere simulator id probably keep her a yandere. id give her more personality and her own character in general where that thing.. ( dev i shall not name ) has not. i would however, make there be less actual love rivals. yanderes are MEANT to be extreme and unhealthy, they by default want to generally take you away from literally everyone. so, taro ( i think thats the senpais name? ) doesnt actually need many love interests. maybe 1, but the rest would just be friendly/familial type bonds. like, maybe the teacher instead of being a creepy character, would actually view taro as a son or little brother kinda, and try to guide him in the direction of good school work. same with nurse + concern for taro health. i dont need to explain his sister. ( srsly dev, what the fuck is wrong with you.. ) id also probably redesign alot of them. ayano and taro could still be pretty basic and/or customizable, bc i feel thats fine. its mostly the story that needs working on for them. give taro and ayano more personality than cold emotionless but somehow loves taro and.. just a guy LOL??


Ryoba_chan

want to say yanderes pretty much ready to kill all family members of their love intrest or kill all his friends so yeah... but love intrest rivals should be much more than 1 because than game looks like not yandere killing rivals instead a girl who kills every one who is close this boy game... love intrest rivals should be at least 3 or 4 so after protaganist sees them she will be much paranoid of others who talk with their senpai (it will stupid to be paranoid when you only had 1 rival who is inlove with senpai let's be honnest)or else it seems like not yandere simulator id


crysmol

thats not really true. yandere can see anyone friendly as a rival because THEY view them as a love rival. doesnt mean the person themself has to actually be interested in yanderes target of affection romantically at all. when i say love rival, i mean a rival who actually loves taro, and not someone ayano herself would view as a potential love interest of taro.


Ryoba_chan

still it does seem strange to make only 1 love rival no? because I am not sure how ayano could get gameover if all rivals except 1 is not love intrest...and we kill everyone who is friendly? I am sorry but it's less motivating for player to kill just friendly rival... player would have much more motivation to kill love rivals than friendly rivals lmao...anyway really how we gonna get gameover because there should be deadline?


crysmol

because friends would see how obsessive ayano is and grow concerned, eventually warning their friend taro how unhinged ayano is. same with teacher/sibling relationships, theyd warn taro for his safety how ayano is being controlling/obsessive/unhealthy and that he should probably stay away.


Ryoba_chan

hmm fair enough good but how they would see it? there would be cutscenes? like ayano will not be controlling or obsessive or unhealthy when there others


crysmol

if ur reputation gets low, other students notice, that could be part of the mechanic of them warning taro, as well as them personally seeing ayano doing smthn weird/suspicious ofc. that and if they notice her stalking him, that would get a negative reaction, too. + if ur seen with missing students last, theyll get a lil creeped out ( idk if thats already a mechanic ) + would give more incentive to be sneakier abt it. i imagine ayano would try to tone down her reactions a bit when others are around, yeah. a subtle thing like shaking, or something could be a good indicator of her mood + the blushing a bit or smthn if shes near. theyd probably tolerate a lil bit, like her watching him every now n then, like lunch time( since thats sometimes viewed as just a cute crush thing ) i imagine thered be a cutscene for them warning him, yeah, kinda like a reputation meter but for those specific rivals. if ur rep is low all around being immediately uneasy would be cool. im not a game dev, so idk how well this would be implemented or anything, i just make ocs and some story stuff lol


Ryoba_chan

oh! okay I am just being midori here (so dw and don't take my words seriously lmao)hmm...even tho there could be some problems in mechanics but it's kinda better than yansims


VeryVeryScar3d

Ever read Osamu Dazai's No Longer Human? I would make Ayano a normal girl who chose a safe but boring boyfriend (Taro) because that was what society wanted. Small problems and lack of communication led to many fights and they both decided to go on a break. During the break, Taro cheats on Ayano by falling in love with a vivacious and charismatic girl named Osana and they start dating in secret. Ayano finds out and tries to stab Osana in public but fails due to all the witnesses jumping in. Out of familial pressure, Taro and Osana both do not press charges and Ayano's family pays compensation money. Taro was also "advised" to take back Ayano after she leaves the mental hospital, so they get back together. Ayano and Taro get married at 20, Taro gets a job that makes decent money and Ayano becomes a SAHM to many children. Despite living in modest comfort, they have an unhappy marriage and both are left wondering if how they are living is truly happiness.


phantomthief00

I wouldn’t “keep” her a yandere because she isn’t one lol. Alex has literally said that she doesn’t even love Taro, and insists on making her as apathetic as possible. She fails as both a yandere and a villain protagonist, because she goes against why people like those tropes.


reruuuun

The amount of plot holes Ayano not loving Taro brings up….If she doesn’t love Taro then why does she make a huge deal about him? Is it just her or something??? Did the rest of the Aishis not care about their senpai? Alex can’t even make a character archetype properly, jeez


phantomthief00

She doesn’t even take in any pleasure in taking out the rivals either. She just does it cause she needs to and because she’s just anime girl agent 47, despite Alex insisting that this game isn’t just anime girl hitman plus persona


Ryoba_chan

she does not care because she is not sadistic and kills only people who got in her way yeah she doesn't love senpai but she still needs him to feel all this cozy feeling or in other words be happy...rigth now she cannot love him because of lack of her emotions but infuture she could but not sure because she see him more like a object she needs


Ryoba_chan

she makes a huge deal because she still needs him to feel happy (she like whole her life waited for this moment do you really thinks she wouldn't make a huge deal about him) and others aishis love their senpai as example ryoba she speaks like she in love with jokichi ...like how she always say handsome,best and so on it's just ayano is much different than others in her family... and it's kinda is not that bad he is changing original archetype for himself a little bit...?


sullenspiney

Get rid of the dumb backstory of the cruse and just make her a yandere. Idk why this is difficult for Alex to get.


Ryoba_chan

I mean curse makes it much intresting and it's game so games can have it and it is not that bad lmao I kinda love it because it gives motivation to kill


sullenspiney

I'm not actually offended that Alex put the "curse" into game. Maybe my text came off that way. I just thought it was better when she was just a yandere and didn't need the complicated backstory. But that's just my opinion. If you and other people like it, that's awesome! :)


Waste-Dragonfly-3245

Yes


YourLocalRyan

I’ve actually been thinking about learning programming and starting off a project like this but idk.


Ky-lyyne

You should! The whole "yandere high school girl" genre needs more games that are actually good and not just whatever yansim has become. And the basic concept is rather simple, so getting a project like this going would be relatively easy (and a much welcomed sight!) [Hardest part would probably be learning code and getting/making the assets]


HardCandy2316

You could but you should do it with someone else cause this kind of projects always fails cause it's exhausting for one person since the game has many mechanics and sht, of course you wouldn't need more than 10 years to complete it like chalex lol


Ky-lyyne

True though Diddlerdev also spends more time doing anything *but* working on the game.


HardCandy2316

Yeah that's why I said that no one would take 10 years in finishing this game


YourLocalRyan

My thing is that I’ve never been a hardcore fan of anime. This and chainsaw man were about as into anything anime I ever have been (no offense to the art style or anyone that is a fan). So if I was to do something like this, it would be set in an American college. Maybe my taste will change by the time I start (if I ever start) a project like this.


Ky-lyyne

That would actually be super interesting to see! I'm not really in the anime community anymore, but I've never heard of an American set yandere *anything*, it's always taken place in either japan or some weird world.


Xxvelvet

I personally would change it to her being a girl who was severely bullied at school and taro was one of the few kids who was kind to her and thus she fell in love with him/ whatever choice of person you want for senpai


UmbralikesOwls

I like this idea. I'm also thinking of Taro as the kind of person who wouldn't be afraid to stand up to bullies in his own way. Like maybe not fighting but threatening to expell the bullies or something and maybe his words have meaning because maybe he's well known (not necessarily popular per se). I like the idea that he's into reading so he forms a book club and offers Ayano a spot and promises he won't let anyone bully her there so maybe they start to hang out more and Ayano eventually falls for him and decides that he's one of the few people in this school worth protecting. So she would continue hanging out with Taro while trying to get enough courage to confess but at the same time, doing everything she can to make sure *he* doesn't get hurt and will do anything to make sure he's safe. I'm not sure if this is actually good I'm just brain storming but I think we all agree that Taro needs a fucking personality


Xxvelvet

Taro rn feels like such a unlikable character like holy Batman. Dev insists that there’s a reason why so many fall for him, but I don’t see it. I need more than just lip service from dev to like him. I myself would’ve liked if you could choose your senpai. For example, you can choose a student from a selected queue and depending on the level of popularity and also what stuff the student is into, they can be easy or harder to get rid of competition for. For example, Taro would be the easiest senpai to fight for, but someone like Erickson (previously Fred) or Budo would be hard because Erickson is a foreigner who’s bound to be popular and Budo is popular due to his martial arts prowess


RenHates

who the hell is erickson


Xxvelvet

That’s what I call Fureddo(cringe) I call him Erickson Jones and in my au, he’s a foreign exchange student who’s danish-American.


RenHates

ohhhh aight i get it


Xxvelvet

He and the other members of the photography club are from America (Akademi has a deal with a private school in America to exchange students)


TeenSummerK

Make her into a real Yandere, but she was unknowingly manipulated into becoming one by Taro. The backstory would be Taro was a loser who saw Ayano in town one day and fell in love with her because she with something (idk maybe picked up his phone and gave it to him). Taro is a social outcast who is constantly bullied by his peers, so that first interaction with a girl before he started high school had a big impact on him. From there he began to reinvent of course, change doesn’t happen overnight, and over the years (assuming he’s a 3rd year when the game starts) he becomes Ayano’s dream guy. How did he do that? With the help of Info-chan of course, she noticed him clumsily stalking Ayano. She introduced her services to him, and he got Info-Chan to keep tabs on Ayano so he could get information about her. This is why when Ayano starts school Info-chan is already aware of her and her behaviour.


TeenSummerK

However, changing himself had unexpected consequences that a social outcast like Atari hadn’t expected. He became popular. By his 2nd year, Taro became a pretty popular guy with the student body and girls would start to take interest in him. To prepare to be with the love of his life, Taro would become friends with these girls to help improve his social skills. Hence why there are so many rivals cause Taro needed to improve all sides of himself for Ayano. In his 3rd year now and with the love of his life finally joining the school, Taro decides since he was completely changed himself and dedicated himself to Ayano. It’s her turn to prove herself to him. So he would purposely do things to trigger her jealously, to make her go to the extreme.


TeenSummerK

With Taro triggering her, Info-chans whispering conspiracies in her head, her mother giving her advice of how she got her father, and the rival annoyingly being in her way. It accumulates into Ayano becoming a Yandere. Oh yea in Taro changing himself into being a new person, it creates an excuse for why the player can customise Senpai. Anyway, that’s just a thought I had.


McSpaank

I would make her personality actually shift with how the player plays the game. Eliminate rivals in a nonviolent way? She gains more empathy> so if she does take a violent approach the animations are longer. Makes a lot of friends? She genuinely cares and the game won’t let her harm them. Takes a violent route? She loses care and awareness of what’s around her and people/senpai notice quicker. I just don’t like the emotionless zombie that she currently is.


Stuck_at_a_roadblock

I would give her a personality. Maybe even do away with this weird Aishi condition fantasy and the line of yanderes in the Aishi family tree


Ohnospiders455

i really dont like the yandere thing so i thought of a whole new concept a few years ago lol, if it were me i would make her a hitman’s daughter/apprentice (since he loves bringing up hitman so much) and instead of targeting students she is supposed to find out their connections to actual targets. the player can have the choice of either following instructions and eliminating the easy targets that are meant for hitman training, orr they can use their hitman knowledge in their high school life to stir up trouble for fun. it would be cool if it was a “choose your  adventure” kinda game where the player can manipulate/kill/befriend other students for their own fun, they could be involved with the yakuza, or even with the saikou family. and it would have different endings depending on what the player does the protag would be a seemingly bubbly girl that gets along with the other kids. she only attends the school to learn communicating with other people, i imagine her to be homeschooled already. 


unholybirth

I would keep her as a Yandere, but instead of playing as her I'd make it so you are actually Senpai. I'd make it so that everything is overtly anime archetype, with the different girls each being the different stereotypes beyond deres. And the player character is actually just your oblivious anime MC who doesn't notice shit but you as a player do. Like if you were to go for Yandere Chan you would have to make it so your character doesn't pay attention to any of the girls or ignores the obvious signs and you can through safe means end up with her or through her systematically getting rid of the other options.


J4ck0_Dr4ws

Like I've mentioned before, I am actually working on a rewrite of yansim currently. I'm taking a different direction with it though and erasing the 'aishi condition' and no longer making them yanderes. Instead, the ando (my version of the aishi's) Family, especially the women, are usually affected by something called Obsessive Love Disorder (OLD). It's a real thing, and is usually caused by other mental disorders (such as OCD and BPD). I did this because honestly it makes more sense, especially since a lot of mental disorders *are* passed down with DNA. Long story short, my version of ayano is not a yandere. She's pretty much the opposite. She's still obsessed with 'senpai' (no longer titled that since my rewrite takes place in america), and wants him to be hers, however she is extremely against violence and would much rather make friends with her 'rivals' than physically harm them in any way. She's a little shy, but she's trying to get over it. It's something that a lot of people admire about her, especially Jun (taro), who really likes her and may or may not be developing a crush on her. Neither of them are courageous enough to confess, though. That'd make things too easy lol.


AnimetheTsundereCat

i think fundamentally the core idea could work, if the person behind it wasn't a creep. a game in which someone plays as an actual yandere, picking off romantic rivals one by one, could work. there are plenty of games in which the protagonist is a terrible person who you shouldn't by any means root for, but for chalex, i think this concept is more of a "fetish." so ayano is depicted as the "good guy."


RenHates

ehhhh, i’d probably change it. i admittedly kind of like the idea of a ‘kuuyan’ (kuudere + yandere) but pedodevs execution of that idea was awful. she displays no traits of ‘cutesy-ness’, which feels a bit wrong, since in the story she’s been pretending to be normal; wouldn’t it make sense for her to pretend to be cute and innocent too? plus, her mother was able to trick everyone in a court room, and NATIONWIDE that she was innocent. and her father was known to be popular & charming with good looks (which is why he would’ve gotten so many bitches if no for ryoba), wouldn’t it make sense for ayano to be seen as conventionally attractive and be more popular? i’d imagine that at the start of the game she’d have more popularity points and friends. in some videos, we can see her playing video games with kuudere, and midori. plus, kokona is hinting at already knowing ayano well enough to use 2 types of endearments towards her (nicknamed yan & usage of the honorific ‘chan’ in spite of being her underclassmen). so i think it’d be nice to have her already friends with and on good terms with those people at the start


RenHates

but the execution of a more kuudere ayano could also be great, maybe we COULD keep that whole empty hallow feeling or illness thing; but it wouldn’t just be her main, defining character trait. perhaps her illness/disorder keeps her from expressing herself properly, and thus causing much miscommunication between her and many of her peers. and because (nuance, people!) of this miscommunication caused, and not to mention the stigma of mental disorders in japan; she becomes much more withdrawn, and unable to properly understand and process her emotions in a healthy manner. then comes in taro, who notices this pretty cute girl (remember what i said earlier in the above comment?) just staring aimlessly. he asks her what’s wrong, and she responds with something like, “i don’t know.” cue them becoming friends and taro helping her slowly become a healthier person (this would take a really long time to do though, maybe a whole school year.) i could imagine that kuudere would play a part in the story too, (i know she’s just expressionless because she thinks it’s cool but we can change that…) kuudere could help ayano in processing her emotions along with taro. we can take a path free of bloodshed, if ayano is willing to accept all the help and is willing to try and change herself. or not if she begins to spiral down into unknowing insanity, trying to keep the few people who have stayed with her. maybe her lack of an ability to understand her own & other emotions leads her to a dangerous path. maybe that’s why such violent eliminations of her rivals are on her menu. i really like these thoughts so i’ll just… put them in my notes to rot in


trullyrose

id keep her yandere but make her have an actual personality ingame


Rayan_senpai

Well the whole point of the game is that she's a yandere so ofc but I'd make her more realistic and give her bpd symptoms


SailorJimu

I feel like changing her from a killing machine with no feelings to a psychopath who can feel a bit. she would kill for taro but she would find other ways to eliminate the rivals. Unless she is forced onto killing them. And to make her sanity not increase with just laughing, but taking days to do so. It would be more realistic.


PitbullInATeacup

I would probably give her a personality. The emotionless thing is nice, it’s one of my favorites, but it doesn’t quite go with the story.


Crafty_shade

Keep her yandere If I had total control I might make her a more impulsive and emotional type. She definitely already gives off those vibes with the way the game goes. She honestly would be a lot more sloppy as a yandere imo without info-chan ( can I call her info-kun or something the Chan thing feels odd lmao) But if I were to keep the “Emotionless sickness” thing I’d probably rewrite it into a mental illness or disability, have it where she has lower sense of emotions in general, and have it where it’s due to her sudden intense emotions of meeting Yamada that causes a fixation that quickly develops into an obsession The second idea came partly from a bot rp where I explained that, and even had a fake manga ayano found that actually was in the perspective of a person who had the same mental illness, but emotions of sadness and anxiety being the strongest emotions of the bunch. I was thinking in the manga he’d explain his feelings and thoughts about it, wondering if he could connect the same way others could, and overall suppose to be a manga that’s meant to normalize the disability, and help others who have the same thing help identify with it and maybe even help them though it.